Open Thread
By driftglass Sunday Sep 27, 2009 7:30pm
"News plus hysterium or synthrage or bigotamine is what we were drinking.
This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence."
Open Thread below...
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welly welly welly...
ooomph!--
just siiingin' in the rain--
kick!---
what a glooorious feelin'--
pow!---
I'm haaaapy again...."
Imagine it's Dick Cheney he's kicking around and you'll find it funny too!
Lets have a glass of Vello Plus.
Viddy well, my little Brother. Viddy well
one of the best films and books evar? The Korova milk bar will never be the same again. Alex would be apoplectic if he saw this.
April 19, 1995 the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City was bombed.
Surveillance tapes have now been released and the claim is being made that they appear to have been edited, Associated Press via Raw Story here
Four different tapes from cameras if four different locations are said to have gone blank at the same time.
Houston, we have a problem.
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By Trudy Lieberman here
Trudy Lieberman has done a stellar job in her serial reporting on the Congressional Health Care looming fiasco. In this latest piece she shows that the Baucus Senate Finance Committee is set to release only conceptual language before the committee vote. They WON'T report what is actually in the bill.
I am expecting a big shaft.
Don't you think we should wait until the four bills are merged? It's unlikely the Baucus bill will go thru as is. Not unlikely, impossible. That's not how Congress works. And I'm certain you know that. You're no dummy. Actually, you're one smart cookie.
You are very kind.
The article refers to process in the Finance Committee, they are the King Pins, it is the gang of six that is ruling the roost.
I am not optimistic.
If the information were in front, then you could start shooting at the details early.
Again, what comes out of the Fin Comm is one bill. And after all the crap over the lszttwo months, I highly doubt that their "work" will be IT. I'm sure we will see significant changes.
a sound mind and somewhat positive attitude returns.
Significant changes perhaps, but will they be for the better.
With this Corporate Congress I am a perma-bear.
Remember, Baucus had the single payer advocates ARRESTED.
This is a seriously defective anti-democratic process.
I'm with you. They won't let the public see their shaft until it's over. That's their MO. Just place the lance and quietly walk away, if that doesn't work, sig the progressives against each other. Rahmie does it all the time, and since he and bro have too, too, too, 'influence' going in this sneaky, low, underhanded deal that will become a fact accompli before we know what happened. PUKIE MO and they never appologize, nor take responsibility. Spoiled, sociopathic brats that's what the so-called 'Villagers' are just like King Geo, and especially ChickenCheney.
Real Time's New Rules for Sept. 25, 2009.
Maher: And finally if America can't get off its back and get something done it must lose the bald eagle as our symbol and replace it with the You Tube video of the puppy that can't get up. As long as we're pathetic, we might as well act like it's cute.
this just piss's me off to no end!
Won't be discussing this on the news tomorrow....
In the meantime, here's another article by Paul Craig Roberts that I recommend to everyone who cares about the truth:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
With another supporting link:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1117296.html
(I hope the Hague allows the P.A. suit against Israel for war crimes to stand).
It's Yom Kippur.....The Day of Atonement.
Hmmmmm......
...........is the prime example of 'exceptionalism' shielded by it's big, puppet-state USofBLOODYISRAEL, who always vetos justice for BLOODYISRAEL. There are other legal actions going on, too toward making them accountable for the legion of war crimes they've committed in the name of the US Military/Industrial/Petroleum/Media mafia. The rogue, apartied, non-state, of BLOODYISRAEL is nothing but a whore for them and they should pay. It'd be a first!
More than a few people think that Ron Paul has at least a crack or two in his pot.
But when Alan Grayson says audit the Fed, in my booklet, that is something to notice. The hearing the other day was very interesting.
So is this interview by Damien Hoffman
here
Heavy language. Only a heavyweight can speak like that and remain standing for long. I am all for Alan Grayson in his current role.
Dead zones in the oceans. Plastic goo thousands of square miles in area.
This is our Mother Earth:
here
Umm, indeed we have a problem here!
Of course, complete silence by the TV "news" people...
Be warned: They get X Rated after the first one.
BLECK:
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to try and do what I can to save this country? This says everything we need to know about the country I used to love so much.
A Fox station.
Nothing more should be said.
I wouldn't trust them with the time of day.
Here, how's this?
Someone's been munching on eggy-wegs and longticks of toast.
The unemployment rate for young Americans has exploded to 52.2 percent -- a post-World War II high, according to the Labor Dept. 9/28
what future, if any, has been left for this generation of young people?
Greed, of corporate execs & politicians, has ensured that their descendants have next to nothing to work with...and possibly no habitable planet to work upon.
is happy to bringup the bad news and lay it at Obama's feet.
Their decendants will be fine...money can buy almost anything. It's the rest of us that are fucked.
recently that said America is likely to end up with a permanent unemployment rate of about 9-10%, like much of Europe and much of the world. I've often wondered if the plan wasn't to bring us down to the rest of the world's playing field. Looks like it's going to happen, planned or not.
Is the dark side controlling things planned? Yes.
Where did you hear that noise?
Europe has no such thing.
Unemployment Rates in the European Union:
Netherlands 2.7%
UK 6.1%
Germany 7.2%
France 7.9%
Spain 14.4%
And they use the real numbers, that would be U6 to you.
You have always had a similar unemployment rate as Europe, the only reason you believe otherwise is because your reporting of unemployment in the US has been rigged to make the numbers look better.
Use the U6 and you'll see that the US is worse off than even Spain at the moment.
In fact, comapred to you the job scene over here is looking pretty damned rosie.
France's unemployemnt kinda' hovers around 9%, with a few dips here and there. There was a great article that said "France's unemployment DROPS to 8.2%."
Germany's is much higher than you claim.
Spain's is a lot worse.
The UK and Netherlands were lower than 9% but also higher than the numbers you use.
And if America uses the U6 to gauge its unemployment rate, what system does Europe use and how is it so different from the U6?
We don't count those who are no longer drawing benefits, but don't necessarily have a job
And we don't count those who are underemployed
Or work a couple of part time jobs
Or work at temp jobs
Or have to depend on tips because they work in eateries where managers don't even pay the minimum wage
And you don't necessarily get any benefits from the last four.
Beck reminds me much more of Malcolm McDowell's accomplice, the one named "Dim" .
It boggles the mind to believe people lap up every word from Glenn Beck.
I would not be surprised to learn Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter or Rush Limbaugh don't believe a word they say. They say what the idiocracy wants.
I never listen to them, but I'll take your word as truth.
People (most Americans) want to be entertained; they aren't interested in news. It seems, anyway.
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Dean Allen: GOP Candidate Raffles Off AK-47 At South Carolina Campaign Rally Called "Machinegun Social" (VIDEO)
SC is the hateful gift that keeps on giving.
One of my favorite movies, will never be the same again.
two three kick! Clock work Orange rocks! Why the new face on the pic?
Will Bunch: The Real Reason the Wealthy and the Republicans Want ACORN to Fail. They Empower the Poor. 9/26
This reminds me of the parable of class warfare wherein the rich guy is riding the limo, the working class is chauffering him and the poor man is in an alley and just found a loaf of bread.
There is a dilemna when the rich man tells the chauffer to stop at the alley, while the rich man goes to take the loaf of bread. The task is difficult, so the rich man calls to his chauffer to help take the bread that the poor man was going to feed his family with.
The ultimate dilemna is the choice the chauffer is stuck with: be as cruel and inhumane as his employer or as hungry as the man in the alley.
attacks on ACORN and US Attorney firings.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/092509a.html
No time to check the meter Mam, 'Just here for the ol' In-Out-In-Out...
Driftglass that is one excellent image. It took me awhile but understanding the prescience of that movie is real horrorshow, Alex gets deal for TV show right. Now for a little Ludvig Von.
frog in the milk glass! Excellent.
Sometimes I do get the feeling that Faux news watchers sit there with their eyes wired open...
Glenn Beck, your most humble narrator for craziness!
attention here in the Pacific NW as the national MSM gives him and we had to hear it on all news channels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt_yo76AbQ4
Get Ready: Senate Climate Bill To Drop This Week - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/09/senat...
The right wingnuts, right wingnut noise machine, Extinctionists/Deniers/'skeptics'/'economists' that failed science classes in HS....are all going to be going ape crazy over it...you know it, I know it, the world knows it, the only thing we can hope for is a huge STFU from the reality based community with a barrage of facts, debunking of pseudo-science, and resilience in the face of sheer stupidity...
G20 cans fossil-fuel subsidies, but fails to make other climate-conserving moves - http://www.grist.org/article/2009-09-25-g20-p...
Conference ends with a whimper...90 days out of Copenhagen...not enough to help poorer nations in this crisis
GO SEE THIS MOVIE! OCT 2nd: 'Capitalism' as Comedy and Tragedy Now Playing in NY and L.A. ...a message from Michael Moore
- http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/ind...
Here it comes (it was only a matter of time): World Bank says don't take dollar's place for granted - http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTR...
World Bank President Robert Zoellick said the United States should not take the dollar's status as the world's key reserve currency for granted because other options are emerging.
While Wall Street Oligarchs & Corporatists turn the U.S. into a third world nation...they'll be just fine as they'll convert their holdings to the Euro, Pound sterling, etc, etc
NOT CHANGE we can believe in: Senate Panel Rejects Bid to Add Drug Discount - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/25/health/poli...
President Obama scored a big victory on Thursday as the Senate Finance Committee rejected a proposal to require pharmaceutical companies to give bigger discounts to Medicare on drugs dispensed to older Americans with low incomes. The victory came at the expense of senators in Mr. Obama’s own party who had championed the proposal.
The vote, in effect, upheld a deal reached in June by the White House and the drug industry, which saw the agreement as a possible way to avoid more onerous requirements that might be imposed by Congress...Three Democratic senators — Max Baucus of Montana, Thomas R. Carper of Delaware and Robert Menendez of New Jersey — joined all the Republicans on the panel in defeating the amendment by a vote of 13 to 10.
Obama's LBJ moment -Harvey Wasserman - http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/7/20...
Blood on her hands: Bachmann Refuses To Answer Question About Dead Census Worker - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/27/bach...
David Weigel asked her about it but could not get an answer: "I caught up to her as she headed outside and asked if she had any response to the murder of a Kentucky census worker, having noticed that the Census, a constant target for Bachmann, did not figure into her speech. Bachmann recoiled a little at the question and turned to enter her limo."
Glenn 'Happy Feet-get off my phone! 'the University of I don't remember' Beck Draws Biggest Protest in Memory in His Hometown of Mount Vernon, Washington State - http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009...
By the time he spoke inside the building, some 800 people were gathered outside - some from as far away as Oregon.
It was the largest protest in living memory in the town of Mount Vernon, population 31,000, an agricultural center for the Skagit Valley.
Apparently there are two economies Bernanke: The unemployment rate for young Americans has exploded to 52.2 percent -- a post-World War II high, according to the Labor Dept.
- http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/the_dea...
Job seekers now outnumber openings six to one, the worst ratio since the government began tracking open positions in 2000. Obama should have listened to Krugman and stimulated Main Street instead of Wall Street.
- http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/27/business/ec...
Mr. President...this is real, real simple...if these numbers don't improve, you are a one term president....the climate bill is a jobs bill....if you don't know how to 'frame it'...then let someone who can do it....
Bill Clinton Says Right-Wing Conspiracy Now After President Obama - http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bill-clinton-w...
Quotations By Thoreau on Finding the Best Within Ourselves and Living It - http://www.futurehealth.org/populum/page.php?...
A great, great man: James Hansen, In His Own Words - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/09/hanse...
The French Have Big Plans for U.S. High-Speed Rail - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/09/the-f...
Another One Jumps From The Chamber Pot: New Mexico Utility Leaving con-servative US Chamber Of Commerce - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/09/new-m...
No Impact Man talks about making an impact - http://www.grist.org/article/2009-09-27-no-im...
Another hero showing others the way...
So how many people were inside? I mean they make a report to sound like there was 31,000 there...I bet there was less than 800 inside
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt_yo76AbQ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B0ad62tlAQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6KBRU-yuwc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XmKfsN3DEM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktUaMPEcSII
in trying to topple this corruption we call US Government. the problem is what do you replace it with?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN5Mqr6tRlw
for me.
of the World!!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9DmMvq7ph8Q/R7s9OjM...
Well this kills my last Photoshop comment here lol. Excellent job.
Just catching up with the news. I often post here about the propoganda where the US media and politicians assume Iran is building a nuclear bomb even though there is no evidence they are building anything but nuclear power. The announcement by Obama of the secret Iranian nuclear facility is the first time I've heard evidence that actually sounds credible that Iran is trying to build nuclear weapons, not just nuclear power. I'm still not convinced, haven't heard enough details. But this doesn't sound like "aluminum tubes" to me. Anyone else have an opinion?
barring additional info (hopefully forthcoming soon). And I concur with your opinion.
Will we get "the truth"? Only if verified by "independent" sources...
I read that the Iranians willfully disclosed this facility to the IAEA last Monday and they upfront agreed to allow them to inspect it.
The Iranians probably do have the goal of developing a Nuke because Pakistan, India and Iseal have nukes.
I imagine that the government feels a nuke would be a deterrent to an invasion by a hostile country.
Who knows which country is making them feel so insecure.
I think the story that the white house tells is that they only disclosed the facility after the US announced it or that word leaked out that the US was about to announce.
To be honest I'm not sure exactly how I feel on this. On the one hand as you point out Iran has had more than ample reason to be afraid of the US and Israel in the past. If this was a peaceful facility I could see why they would keep it quiet given that both countries all but stated at various points they were considering bombing Iran's nuclear facilities and Israel has launched un-provoked attacks on both Syria and Iraq facilities in the past. I can also see how Iran would want a nuclear weapon. I think its fairly clear the current administration won't invade them but what country wants to have its security depend on how the next US election turns out?
On the other hand, the idea of Iran with nuclear weapons doesn't at all seem like a good thing to me. For one thing the republicans (and many dems) would use it as an excuse for all kinds of more insane spending on missile defense, aircraft carriers, etc. For another, a nuclear weaponized iran does raise the horror of a worst case scenario: a nuclear war in the middle east.
Not bad Drift, getting much better. On that second one, you should use the levels and curves tools to bring the skin tone closer to the photo. The Fox News bubble is really throwing the balance off on the first one.
The ball of light in the original makes everything pink.
http://www.moviesnobs.net/wp-content/uploads/...
Artist's choice, but if you're staying true to the original image you need that there.
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