Open Thread
By driftglass Tuesday Dec 01, 2009 8:30pm
Fox surpassed even its own standards for surrealism last Sunday, when all the Clowns at the Fox Circus shared a giant hanky about the White House Party Crashers and awful awfulness of our celebrity-sick culture.
Yes, that’s right: the degenerate sons of Mike Wallace and Irving Kristol…sitting on the set of their fake news show…collecting paychecks for telling lies to stupid people...pretending to be stunned that some fortune-seeking, second-generation, spoiled rich twat of a con artist would use his contacts and blond arm-candy to break the last, sacred seal -- the rules of Beltway party-going--to get his own teevee show.
The horror.
[Excerpted from here. Thanks Blue Gal for the graphic assist.]
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I just checked out a couple of today's one-minute-speeches in the House, Alan Greyson and Dennis Kucinich (the latter is in the Video Cafe here.)
BTW, Happy Birthday to my oldest, Jamaica Naomi Russo: 12-2-72. Last I heard you were in Sarasota.
the skinny blonde and her wino hubby party crashers.
The real reason why Fox is so worked up about the party crashers
Bill Press and Ed Schultz too. But I'm going to take the side of the hacker, including the social hacker, and say that I'm appalled. True, they came on the heels of balloon boy and, God knows, we want to see _his_ parents hung. From what I understand, they are a couple deadbeat grifters who don't deserve a lot of sympathy from anyone. But here's the bottom line:
I don't want to pay $80-$100,000/year
to keep America safe
from a couple party crashers.
It's exactly this typically American knee-jerk, "hang 'em high" attitude that gives us the largest prison population in the world and _costs_us_ a friggin' ton of money. I'm appalled to see it coming from so many liberal American mouths as well.
Yes, if they had been the reincarnation of Bruce Lee brainwashed by China as ninja assassins THEY COULD HAVE GIVEN OBAMA THE VULCAN NERVE PINCH!!!! It COULD HAVE HAPPENED, MAN!!! But it DIDN'T. So, TONE DOWN THE HYSTERIA!! BREATH DEEPLY AND SLOWLY. IT WILL BE OK. OBAMA IS OK. RELAX!!!! IT'S OVER!!!!
What _they_ did is crash a party. Does this mean I'm making light of the incident. No, I am not. It highlighted a serious hole in Secret Service process and the agency needs some "come to Jesus" meetings on how to plug those holes. But that is a _separate_ issue, and the _result_ of all this should be better security for the president. Do these two get any _credit_ for that? Well, of course not. It wasn't their intention. But the bottom line is that what they did was _crash_a_party_. They did _not_ harm anyone there, so tone down the "what if they..." talk because it _didn't_happen_. In this new age where you _can_ be prosecuted for your _intentions_, it wasn't even their intention to harm the president, so just chill.
There is a precedent for this incident that is currently on trial in Great Britain. There was a kid with aspergers who got it into his head that the Department of Defense was hiding UFO information and he found that a number of DoD servers had passwords that were about has hard to guess as something your secretary would come up with and put on a Post-It on her monitor. The "damage" was the cost of fixing the holes he exposed and validating the data. Nonetheless, the U.S. is trying to extradite him so he can be crucified high, hung with a crown of thorns and stabbed in the side as a terrorist because, by God, he _EMBARRASSED_ the United States Department of Defense.
That's basically the damage this couple did. They EMBARRASSED the Secret Service. Should this sort of thing be discouraged? Probably. They'll get paid by the media to tell their story, so fine them and put them on probation. Make it a wash and make it harder for them to continue grifting. But, for me, I don't find the American value that says all tricksters and magicians must be hung high very noble, and, honestly, I wonder how it stunts our vision and creativity as Americans.
But back to the bottom line: I don't want to pay $80-100,000/year to keep the world safe from a couple party crashers.
please C&L, put a 100 word limit on these comment areas.
fine them $80-$100,000/year and then string them up.
why a candidate has to fret and dither about whether to accept an endorsement from an anti-gay group/person, yet if the group/person was anti-Black or anti-Semetic etc...there would be no question.
Now here's the stupid part, said mayoral candidate is Black and a Dem, running against a White lesbian Dem.
Story here
Black lawmakers freaked out over white lesbian candidate primarily because "hey, that's a black seat." Here's my post on it from back in 2006.
http://bgalrstate.blogspot.com/2006/08/modest...
Houston, Alabama, it's the Bible belt. It is not good for tourism to be racist, but homophobia is not nearly so denounced.
And black voters, many of whom see themselves as evangelical Christians, are not always gay-friendly to say the least. A lot of Obama supporters in California voted for Prop 8.
Honestly, Houston is not as Bible Belt as the deep South....most of the city government are Dems. And we hav e a HUGE gay population that's more or less accepted....and Annise Parker, said lesbian, has been high ranking in the city govt for quite a few years. Homophobia here got trounced back in the eighties although it still rears itself, as per the story. It's not really a black/white thing. It's rethugs with little city power trying to start trouble where there was none.
we're going to blow things up in Afghanistan for another 3 years.
18 months.
July 2011.
The Netherlands is out early next year. Sorry Obama :)
Hahahahahahaha. Stop you're killing me here. Such humor, you should be on stage in Vegas.
crashers are a couple of pathetic fame-whores. They give Balloon Boy's father a run for his money in the gross-and-vulgar department. But at the same time, Kristol and Wallace are pretty fucking pathetic, gross, and vulgar too!
Just thought that deserved an encore....
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"... pretending to be stunned that some fortune-seeking, second-generation, spoiled rich twat of a con artist would use his contacts and blond arm-candy to break the last, sacred seal -- the rules of Beltway party-going--to get his own teevee show."
Well done.
WASHINGTON — George W. Bush "turned tail" from the Afghan war to invade Iraq, leaving President Barack Obama a worsening war he must now try to turn around, a senior Democratic White House ally said Tuesday.
In unusually sharp comments, Democratic House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said he was "angry" about former vice president Dick Cheney's latest attacks on Obama's handling of a bloody conflict now in its ninth year.
"Frankly, they turned tail. That's pretty tough language, but I get angry when I hear vice president Cheney talk about a job they started but didn't finish," Hoyer told reporters.
"They started something and didn't finish it, and they left it for this administration to clean up," he said. "We are clearly not making the same mistake the Bush administration made."
Hoyer, speaking hours before Obama was expected to use a televised prime-time address to unveil plans for sending 30,000 more US troops to Afghanistan, said he would "reserve judgment" for now on the new strategy.
http://rawstory.com/2009/12/bush-cheney-turne...
The CSU schools have to deny applications for students, while Arnie thinks we should save the horse tracks. But hey, at least he "saved" our water supply before leaving office...
to having extra enrollments due to the CSU denials. Whoo-hoo! (snark obviously)
Kind of a bombshell tossed out on MSNBC. FireDogLake caught it.
Rep. Hinchey (D-NY): Bush Administration Intentionally Let Osama bin Laden Escape
The first 4 minutes is lead-in, then Hinchey lets loose.
Hinchey is correct, I think .
I noticed that he said the troops were to be taken from Iraq to Afghanistan. Who wants to bet that in a years time or so, the generals will be screaming that they need more troops in Iraq and they need them yesterday? They'll only be able to "finish the mission" and leave Iraq if they get those extra troops and put on a concerted push. Haven't we seen this whole thing before? Didn't the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan get shoved aside in the rush to invade and occupy Iraq? We're going around in circles here I think.
By Eric Zimmermann - 12/01/09 12:26 PM ET
Sen. Pat Leahy (D-Vt.) will file an amendment to the Senate healthcare bill in order to repeal the insurance industry's antitrust exemption on Tuesday.
The House included a similar repeal in its legislation, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has expressed support for it.
But some centrist Democrats oppose the repeal. Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) has said he's secured an assurance from Reid that the provision will not be included in the final Senate bill.
Leahy framed the proposal as a way to prevent unfair insurance practices.
“This amendment will prohibit the most egregious anticompetitive conduct — price-fixing, bid-rigging and market allocations — conduct that harms consumers, raises healthcare costs, and for which there is no justification," he said.
"Subjecting health and medical malpractice insurance providers to the antitrust laws will enable customers to feel confident that the price they are being quoted is the product of a fair marketplace."
UPDATED: Sen. Joe Lieberman has joined Leahy in calling for a repeal, an interesting move for the Connecticut Independent whose state is home to several insurance firms' headquarters.
“There is no reason that health insurers should be exempt from our federal antitrust laws,” Lieberman said in a statement.
“Anti-competitive conduct that reduces consumer choice and drives up prices is harmful to consumers and should be subject to the full range of federal remedies to end such practices," he added.
The partnership between Leahy and Lieberman is also strange given that Leahy called for Lieberman to lose his chairmanship of the Homeland Security Committee after campaigning for Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) for president in 2008.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/n...
Ahnold "Cut Medicaid and children's programs" Schwarzenegger has $80,000 in tax liens against him.
i noticed but it's so pathetic i can't say much.
*
.. and filed it under "Compassionate Conservatism" ..
that crap onto us all.
I noticed. I just figured times must be tough for multi-millionaires too.
snark
Rupert Murdoch: Those "Online" Who "Rewrite" Journalists' Stories Are Engaging In "Theft"
needs to take Senior Citizen's computer classes along with John McCain. He doesn't seem to understand what bloggers actually do.
.. a coupla classes in Journalism and maybe one or two in Journalistic Ethics wouldn't hurt him either ..
conscience transplant, and he's good to go!
SPIT TAKE! I gotta laugh when I think of Rupert as a journalist. ;)
Don't you owe money to hard-working journalists who write the truth, because you twist it?
how can it be called theft of the news of hard working jounalists when the not so hard working jounalists just hijacked a real news story and put their own spin on it? Rupert, please explain a little further, I'm a bit confused about your argument.
Global warming forces Cali to reduce the amount of water it sends to counties to 5%. The Aussies are giving us McMansion Envy. You think the Swiss are bad right now? Check out the Italians. Mixed soldier family reactions to the updated surge. Anyone wanna vote for Person of the Year? Gold's now valued @ $1200 an oz. An anti-Prop. 8 contingent wants payback by banning divorce. The new job compensation plan is really useful, given that workers are already starting to lose their COBRA coverage. Cindy gets accosted for not agreeing with Barry's surge. Another fine example of L.A. transportation regulation at work. Another GM CEO bites the dust. Murdoch looks for new ways to bypass Fair Use. Sanford's law-talking guy claims he was using the plane for legit purposes. Remember when Congressmen used to have gunfights over slavery? Looks like they're equally defensive about health care reform.
30,000 more troops to protect all those NWO poppies!
Poppies! Poppies!
AH Hahahahahaha!
Decriminalize and regulate heroin.
US and other govts purchase tne heroin for distribution to addicts.
Takes the profit away from the Taliban.
Lets the Afghan farmers make a decent living.
Too logical a solution .. they'll never do it !
It takes the profits away from these guys:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/28/eve...
Not all opiates are the illegal kind: Oxycodone, Roxycodone, Percocets. I'm sure cheap opium is good for business, and the fields are spreading, not disappearing.
Instability and Iranian influence in the Afghan Wild West
don't tell me that I should read it either. Tell me the CIA is up to something and I'll believe it.
nuthin to read .. it's a video report from a French News Agency ..
.. and I'm certain the CIA is up to LOTS ..
.. after all, the intelligence agencies run everything ..
:<[)
HumeSkeptic
Moderator's Pick / HuffPost's Pick
In January, when Obama took the oath of office, our financial system was on the verge of collapse, and GDP Rate was negative 6.3%.
Presently, our financial system is relatively stable, and GDP rate is positive 2.8%
Sure, more needs to be done and perhaps some things could have been done better. But let’s not forget the accomplishment.
Other accomplishments:
Stem cell order reversed.
SCHIP passed and signed into law
Ledbetter bill passed and signed into law.
Hate crime legislation covering gays signed into law.
Major Green energy initiatives started.
EPA rules revised to address Climate Change.
Executive order signed to protect large areas from drilling.
Car emission standards revised.
National Science Foundation funding boosted.
Stimulus bill passed, and already helping revive the economy.
Financial system reform plan implemented.
Regulations on the way.
Gitmo closing ordered.
T0rture banned.
Iraq troop withdrawal ordered.
Afghanistan approach under review.
Direct negotiations with Iran started
Negotiations with Syria in progress.
Disarmament talks with Russia re-started.
Travel restrictions for Cuba.lifted.
Bush-era Europe missile shield replaced
Energy/Climate Change legislation passed the House, soon to be passed by Senate.
Student loan market overhaul approved by U.S. House
Healthcare legislation on the way.
And I’m sure that missed many items.
Do we have a President, or do we have a PRESIDENT!
Posted 12:11 PM on 11/27/2009
I’m reminded of The Beatles’ song “Getting Better”
I've got to admit it's getting better
A little better all the time (It can't get no worse)
After Lenin read what McCartney wrote, he just had to add the line “It can’t get no worse.”
Things are getting better. The problem about being a cynic is that no matter how cynical you become – you’re always right. But I’m an optimist too (which is difficult to reconcile sometimes). Are things bad? Yes. Will they get better? I hope so.
You mean Lennon.
Lenin was long gone.
Are you looking for a bullshit artist award?
The 2.8% is almost entirely from the financial sector which has received cash and commitments totaling over $17 trillion.
Barofsky uses the number $23.7 trillion but that has programs discontinued before they left the gate.
Much of that money is poorly documented and the taxpayer will not get it back.
What is astonishing is that they only managed 2.8 % with such an amount.
These people committed fraud to begin with and should be in jail.
This was a financial coup d'Etat and the Pope of Hope was the bag man with the taxpayers money.
He has also increased the MICC budget, currently at an obscenely bloated trillion dollars per year.
These together will send us to bankruptcy.
bush, Alice X. whatever Obama's failings, you owe him the truth when you excoriate him. I respect your zealotry but do not get so twisted you can't face a fact.
What has led us to where we are started under Reagan.
You can write lists a mile long but at the top of list must be the negatives of the greatest transfer of wealth in history.
Obama is the current front man. He was the opposition candidate during beginning of the main heist, he didn't speak against it, he voted for it.
That is the truth and it belongs to him even more than Bush, because Bush was in the twilight.
You can write all the lists you want but they are bullshit without that central fact.
I want all of the über capitalists out.
I want their fraud investigated and the guilty in jail.
The country has lost many trillions of dollars because of their crimes.
But Obama is not going to investigate or prosecute the Wall Street crooks because he is their bag man.
He also will not prosecute the war criminals and torturers because he will soon be one himself.
Those are facts and that is the truth.
Any good the Obama Administration may have done in the early days of 2009 is negated by 3 things: The "stimulus" which did nothing but line the pockets of Geitner's buddies on Wall Street; The complete and total sellout of the American people on healthcare reform, and now, more troops to be sent into the meatgrinder known as Afghanistan. Furthermore, "closing Gitmo" is meaningless because the administration is not letting these poor bastards go home, but rather the Administration is gonna hold on to them until a suitable kangaroo court can be set up to convict these guys. Obama may have paid lip service to banning torture, but his actions prove otherwise. For example, it was his Administration which argued against the release of any Abu Ghraib photos - photos which would have shown, in clear and disturbing detail, what it was we were doing in Iraq. Fuck this guy! No more slack for him! I'm not going to be like Duhbya's 20%-ers and turn a blind eye to the crimes this guy is helping to commit. Obama's a one-termer as far as I'm concerned. The audacity of hope - my fucking ass!
Look at the two DOUCHBAGS aren't they PATHETIC...
real douchebags
I might need a rabies shot. You rule driftglass. =)
ORLANDO, FL – Tiger Woods refuses to give details about crashing his car and the injuries he received over the weekend. But investigation shows he was beat up by his half-alien wife!
Evidence is pointing towards Tiger Woods’ wife, Elin Nordegren, as being the assailant in Tiger’s weekend scandal. Nordegren is believed to be half-alien; able to maintain human form most of the time, but reverting to an extraterrestrial form when she becomes emotionally upset.
Woods attempted to flee the scene in his Escalade. The eyewitness says that Nordegren, now 7′ tall and vaguely reptilian in appearance, took hold of the car to prevent it from leaving. Forensic evidence confirms the eyewitness reports that she lifted the car with Tiger Woods in it, and threw it into the nearby tree and fire hydrant. The hulking Nordegren then took Woods out of the car to slap him around some more before police finally showed up.
http://weeklyworldnews.com/celebs/14018/tiger...
.. at last the Truth comes out !!
.. thanks!
Fox will probably give them a show
to consortium news with stories and ides of your own.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/120109c.html
Oh, I'm sorry, that's if you want to contribute for those that are always so negative on this site. Here is one we can share.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/120109.html
This could be why some people are negative:
Can't say I blame them!!
Some things never change. Chaos inside Walmart during Black Friday 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo58xkaADzc&fe...
Credit goes to: JackRusselTerrier
Flawed logic...
Money given to politicians from Pacs and lobbyist which influences votes - no problem.
Money to bail out banks and Wall St. - no problem.
Money for huge unwarranted bonuses on Wall Street. - no problem.
Money for two wars of choice - no problem.
Money for over 1,000 military bases - no problem.
Money for planes that can't fly in the rain - according to some politicians this is... no problem.
Money to give to Israel_ even though their economy is doing better than ours, have universal heath care, and they violate_ treaties - no problem.
Money to give to warlords_ - no problem
Money to give to Blackwater which has employees committing murder_ against Iraqis AND Americans - no problem.
Money to give to KBR which has been found negligent by hiring unqualified personnel (so they could maximize profits) to do electrical work resulting in the death_of American soldiers. - no problem.
Money to give to the corrupt government in Afghanistan. - no problem.
Money to fund universal health care for politicians - no problem.
Money to fund universal health care in Iraq - no problem.
Money to fund universal health care for citizens the United States - WAIT A MINUTE THAT"S SOCIALISM!!!
Stimulus money to help the people - WAIT A MINUTE THAT"S SOCIALISM!!!
Money from the rich to pay for the wars - WAIT A MINUTE we're supposed to PROFIT from the war NOT PAY for it.
You're not alone.
Votes against global warming legislation.
Was that basically a backdoor into Pakistan? And, looking back, isn't the story about the White House crashers a red herring to shadow the guest of honor at that very same state dinner being India's prime minister? Last I checked, India has the bomb, and they're none too pleased with Pakistan.
People need to see that President Obama is really talking about Pakistan having people living in its borders that will attack the United States when he talks about Afghanistan. As long as the US Military is in Afghanistan then the terrorists cannot jump the border from Pakistan into Afghanistan and vice versa. President Obama needs to have a strong Afghan central government and a strong Pakistani government to work with to stop any terrorist activities to attack the United States developed within their borders. Then the US can pull its forces out and use special ops working with the strong central governments to protect the US from terror ops organized to attack the US. It is a difficult plan to implement but at least president Obama is looking at the problem correctly and trying to correct it unlike the Bush/Cheney administration. Bush and Cheney were incompetent this is what happens when you put incompetent people in charge, it takes years to correct their incompetency.
That's the plan ..
"The struggle against violent extremism will not be finished quickly, and it extends well beyond Afghanistan and Pakistan."
- PRESIDENT OBAMA, speaking at West Point about military strategy.
Indeed state terrorism blankets the world.
The United States is the greatest sponsor of state terrorism since WWII.
It has overthrown 50 democratically elected governments and suppressed 30 liberation movements.
There must be an end to this military imperialism.
Bush was a Wannabee 'war president' to impress his "base" and Daddy and Babs. Babs, the bobby soxer and swooner. In WWII, Babs swooned at a can of pork & beans.
Bush was the War Playboy. Cocktail in hand, Tuxedo, Limo, Republican Parties, pursed lips, the grand entrance on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier in his Hollywood "Gladiator" staged fly-in, "Mission Accomplished". I'm Bond... James Bond". Another fucking actor. Child star. War Playboy.
for great works of photoshopping... because this one is a classic
should be thankful to the party crashers, because they pointed out that there is a chink in President Obama's armor. Luckily this breach did not endanger the President.
If not for them, I may wonder why we're chummy with India all of a sudden, as if a Pakistan war were on the horizon...
Land of the Free short film shows an armed second revolution against the federal government. Armed citizens can be seen shooting federal agents from rooftops and alleyways.
http://www.askbutwhy.com/2009/11/land-of-free-movie.html
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