Bart Stupak hates Nuns
Man, there are plenty of people to diss in the world these days, but Stupak managed to diss nuns, of all people. Wow, nuns. Hasn't he been beating on the ladies enough?
In two interviews yesterday, Michigan Congressman Bart Stupak revealed a great deal about himself, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, politics and the internal workings of our "pro-choice" Democratic party.
First, in what shouldn't be surprising to anyone, Stupak told Fox News that he doesn't listen to nuns.
Why would he? They're only women, after all. And we know the men run the institutional Catholic church. If they didn't, there wouldn't be an international pedophilia scandal.
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According to Fox:
Congressman Bart Stupak, D-Mich, responded sharply to White House officials touting a letter representing 59,000 nuns that was sent to lawmakers urging them to pass the health care bill.
The conservative Democrat dismissed the action by the White House saying, “When I’m drafting right to life language, I don’t call up the nuns.” He says he instead confers with other groups including “leading bishops, Focus on the Family, and The National Right to Life Committee.” [emphasis added.]
Consult the nuns? People who, despite their vows of chastity, also menstruate, and work directly with--indeed touch every day--the people who are most in need?
Yet, despite his unyielding efforts to front for the USCCB and the male "right-to-life-except-for-women" elite, Bart apparently wants us to feel sorry for the backlash he is experiencing in his crusade against women's most basic rights.
The Hill reports that "Leading a revolt against President Barack Obama’s healthcare legislation over abortion has been a “living hell” for Rep. Bart Stupak."
As Digby says:
The last people any good Catholic should consult are nuns. What the hell do they know? Much better to listen to Bishops who cover up for pedophiles and people who believe men should take their sons into the shower to show them their big penises so they won't be gay.
Those are just the people who should by making the decisions for American women.
Please help Connie Saltonstall to unseat this douche and donate to her campaign here.
Here he is with Matthews still lying about what's in the bill:
It doesn't seem to be any different if your Dem or Rep; it is more of a politician thing......your either with us, or against us.
attitude. Remember Congressman Stupid (I mean Stupak) lived with the group at The Family House. Naturally he talks with them and the bishops. God forbid if the woman who actually do the heavy load with women's issues.
Southern Yankee
maybe..otherwise he is cutting his own throat!
Stupak also said his life has been hell lately with all the phone calls and people fussing at him about his vote. He should try being an 18 year old who is pregnant and poor. She can't afford to get an abortion is he gets his way so she has about 20 years in front of her as she raises the child alone in poverty. That could be a kind of real hell.
All the nuns should pick up their rulers and chase Stupak down.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Not only next 20 yrs in poverty, but he wants to make sure that she and her child have no medical insurance too.
I saw this last nite. I was rolling on the floor with laughter.
This man is supposed to be a mover and a shaker? One of our intelligent leaders?
Why didn't he just say...."They're just gals. Only men know what is best for women."
Jeezzgodawwmighty...have a freakin' thought before you open your mouth.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
the D in Bart Stupak, D-Mich stands for dumbass, dick, dork, douche, go ahead and add a few of your own...
Next thing you know, those nuns will be talking about social justice too.
has become increasingly difficult. Being raised that way I identify myself as one but rarely attend church anymore and really only tolerate it for one reason. I've known liberal priests and nuns and always knew that there were many who done enormous good with their religious careers who were being tarnished by the conservative wing. I was fed up recently when they expelled those children whose parents were lesbians though. Using children to make political hay is the lowest they've ever sunk. That coming right after threatening to suspend charitable work in DC if gay marriage were approved.
Well, the nuns and catholic hospitals and this priest who was on Colbert last night are whats good about the RC church and it's parishoners, at least some of them live up to the standards God whould expect from a church if he would endorse one.
Stupak knows he's cooked. He's totally boxed himself in. The whole "standing on principle" position is the last refuge of a man who KNOWS he's not getting re-elected. He can't flip flop, so his only recourse is to now head over the cliff with his integrity intact.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
his throat, your sword is pointed toward his heart, and instead of apologizing or shutting up, he continues to taunt you. A new word for stupid--"stupak." As in, "Boy. Is he stupak or what?"
So the Black Knight is Bart Stupak?
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"Please help Connie Saltonstall to unseat this douche"
Fightin' words from C&L, more of this please!
Again, white men who have already spooged all over town making decisions for the host of the infant is completely insane. If you don't like abortion have your dick sawn off and really share your opposition!
It's time to get rid of this pile of shit and put an adult in charge.
Yeah, I hate nuns also, but only because they bring back the Agent Orange-like memories of my sodomized days as a Catholic School student.
LOL.
Stupac is a real piece of work, a real pile of Republican shit.
Strange that these assholes care so much about the unborn but so little about the born and living .Add this guy to the list of Dems that we need to go after and get voted out of office .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
explanation for this discrepancy? Oh, yeah. There is no forum to push for answers to these burning questions.
Who IS this guy?
1. Nuns are capable of great evil too. Look at the laundries that used to be in Ireland. Of course, these nuns are not like that, nor are most priests pedophiles or would cover for them. Evil can come from anywhere.
2. Focus on the Family? Is he stupid or just that spiritually debased? It's one thing to work with an organization that is filled with people who think your religion is the Great Whore of Babylon (as many fundie evangelicals do) if you find common ground. It's entirely another thing seek their advice. That always made me mad when I was Catholic and still bothers me. The Catholic leaders (Church and lay) really need to wake the fuck up and see where they will stand with their "friends" when the Church is no longer needed to get what they want.
Can we possibly think of picking two worse representatives to debate the abortion issue?
A man vs. nuns?
What does a frog have to say?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
What does a frog have to say?
Ribbit.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Thanks for the chuckle, that's the best one I've heard all week!
I went to Catholic grade school in the 50's and 60's. If a Nun back then had heard that "bold-and-brazen-thing" Stupak being disrespectful, she'd "slap him silly" or put a ruler to his knuckles or a yardstick to his ankles. I'm STILL scared of Nuns!
First, Democrats need to take the "D" from behind his name because he's not a Democrat !!! Second, he needs to be place in a room full of nuns so they can teach him a little respect. Third, he needs to be placed in a room full of bishops and priests who like men. Need I say more?
How did he get elected on the "D" side in the first place?
"Nuns are capable of great evil too. Look at the laundries that used to be in Ireland."
Didn't Joni Mitchel write a song about that subject?
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
Big Yellow Taxi?
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Is so antidemocratic.
Apart from his obvious hatred of women,his actions erode the secular foundation on which true democracy stands and flourishes.
As an elected official it is your job to represent all people,not use that office to put forward your own backward religious convictions.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
Ya just have this feeling that this man has a mule in his past.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHIWyj2Bsa8
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Maybe not so distant past.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
He consults with bishops that help hide the pedophiles?? Excuse me but I do believe thats a crime. So he is consulting with criminals.
pennlady
...'men should take their sons into the shower' to show them their big penises so they won't be gay.
....WaaaaaaTF!?
Cue the Kabuki....
Yeah, and I don't know what happens if daddy doesn't have a big one.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Mommy tells her son he's adopted?
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
But where does he learn not to be gay? I mean that was the reason for this action after all.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Wellllll....if he's adopted....or believes he is....
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Bart has problems going all the way back.
When a man shows this much dislike for women, I have to wonder if he's jealous of them.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
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"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
As well as some other parts. Seems he really wants to punish women and there has to be a reason for that. I mean he's dis-ing nuns. Does he hope if he prevents enough abortions that will cancel out what he said about nuns?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
text from the Middle Ages right now, and it explores reasons for misogyny. One of the suggested reasons is impotence or another body problem. You have to wonder.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
= American Psycho?
Intra feces et urinam nascimur.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I was born between 1 & 3, depriving the doc of a football game. Needless to say, I was slapped a little harder than was necessary.
Damn those nuns. Damn them all to hell.
A. It's pro-choice, not pro-abortion. You don't like abortion, then don't choose to have one. I don't care what any cleric, medicine-man, or seer has to say about my constitutional rights.
B. This is a health-care bill. If you think you are pro-life, maybe you should think about the 45,000 people (real, live people) who die each year because of lack of access to health care.
C. You don't want to pay for abortions? Well, I don't want to pay for "clean" coal, cluster bombs, and more prostelytizing by douche-bags like you. Deal with it. What, you think access to abortions should be determined by how much money you have?
D. Focus on the Family? Fuck you, you ignorant piece of trash. There is no excuse for a thinking individual to pay the slightest attention to Focus on the Family. Do you take your other policy cues from the American Nazi Party or Warren Jeffs?
told the truth about the bill because they believe it will bring needed prenatal care to women and babies, and he tells them to shut up because they are only women, and men who don't know or care about what it's like to be a woman ought to be allowed to make vital life decisions for women. What a pig!
I'm going to see if I can spare some more money for Saltonstall's campaign soon.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus
UP'er means folks who live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan BTW.
I am making sure my UP'er friends hear every last scrap of this mans BS.
Wait till you get your chance to visit the real deal.
“When I’m drafting right to life language, I don’t call up the nuns.” He says he instead confers with other groups including “leading bishops, Focus on the Family, and The National Right to Life Committee.”
Yeah, Stupy....and all those MEN (in the case of bishops, CELIBATE MEN (at least they pledged to be) know SOOOOOOOO much about women's reproductive organs and functions and the problems of unwanted and dangerous pregnancies. Yeah, let's listen to those misogynistic old rich white males.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Boys and men? Not so much.
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“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
he can burn in his "living hell" that he created himself with such a stance.
I wish someone would ask him about the right to life those dying without proper health care access are experiencing.
A repube in dem clothing. A certified member of the American Taliban. A man who thinks he should control a womens decisions about her own body.
Ship him to Somalia. That is the government he wants for us.
Lew
Fighting the Christian American Taliban daily.
OK. I hate useless rhetoric from conservatives. But I am always disheartened when it comes from the left.
First it was "Stupak doesn't listen to nuns." (True)
Then I come here and it's "Stupak hates nuns." (Uh, seriously?)
I think the second sentence as a characterization of what he said is a little over the top. This is how BS gets started and if it's unfair when the right does it then it's unfair when we do it.
Sounds to me like he's your every day misogynist and patently dismissive of women in general (which makes him a jerk) - but to say he "hates nuns" like he's out trying to run them over with his car is a bit knee-jerk.
Let's stick to the facts and not make people out to be hate-mongers instead of just idiots. Let's leave rhetoric like that to the conservatives.
Clearly you agree he's a misogynist, well, Princeton University gives the following defintion to the word misogyny:
Misogyny
Noun
•S: (n) misogyny, misogynism (hatred of women)
Since all nuns are women, doesn't that suggest he probably *does* hate nuns?
None of his actions speak to any love for women in general or nuns in particular. Quite the contrary.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Barty is just another rigid evangelical crackpot living in the past. He deluded himself into believing that his bizarre cult he calls a religion was more widely accepted and respected than it really is.
So I'm glad that reality humbled this arrogant bastard and he realized the truth of the matter---that his rigid cult like authortarianism is a very distinct minority that only a few deluded idiots take seriously.
Take that Bart, and if you are smart, you'll take the spiritual feminine more seriously. But I bet you don't.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
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"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
And him too--since dumbasses like him don't realize that eventually, the truth wins out.
The spiritual feminine will eventually prevail again once more. Perhaps not in our lives, but we can do all we can to make sure that our descendents experience it.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
Then I'll downgrade him from misogyny to
male chauvenism as defined here: A man whose behavior and attitude toward women indicate a belief that they are innately inferior to men.
Not that either is particular complimentary, nor do I mean it to be. What I mildly object to is escalating rhetoric. But in this case, I can see that it may be warranted.
Ain't life grand Ms. Dee?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaynwG-vI8I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjio-F47IfM
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
AND, I'm sure ALL nuns hate him back.... what a hack...
and probably now feels betrayed that all the crap they taught him, they're going back on now.
just like the Rethugs rolled the Dems on the ACORN fake videos by the young Rethuglican. What's with the Dems, are they just naive, don't they check facts, are they that stupid...........oh, never mind.
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