Bart Stupak's trying a new tactic to get the abortion deal that he wants into HCR. He calls it the "enrollment corrections bill." He was on GMA today and shed some light on it.
Stephanopoulos asked about the idea floated by Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH), another pro-life Democrat, to hold a separate vote on reinstating the Stupak language on abortion insurance, as a whole different bill. Stupak said that this was one possibility -- but he wanted to make sure such a bill would in fact be signed into law.
"Okay, we pass the bill, it has to go to the Senate. This is an enrollment corrections bill. It has to be passed before the president would sign the Senate bill. So there's a long ways to go," said Stupak. "And you know, dealing with the Senate has been unusually difficult these last two years, so I'm not a lot of confident it's gonna go any farther than the House of Representatives."
David Waldman explains what Stupak has in mind.
Lordy, Lordy, Lordy. You're not gonna believe how low down in the weeds we're gonna have to get for this one.
We just learned from mcjoan that Bart Stupak is after a deal that would somehow jam a foot in the health insurance reform door for his now-notorious Stupak amendment on abortion:
This morning, during an appearance on Good Morning America, Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) reaffirmed that he might vote for the Senate health care bill if Democrats pass the Stupak abortion amendment as a separate measure. Stupak said that Democrats have shown a "renewed" interest in tying his amendment to the Senate bill:
STUPAK: George, that’s called an enrollment corrections bill. I presented that to leadership about ten days ago. There’s renewed interest in that piece of legislation that I and a number of us are ready to introduce. It’s prepared. Everybody’s looking at it right now. That’s one way, maybe. But we set the deal with the Senate. You give us a vote in the House. We had a vote in the House. It was overwhelmingly 240-194, to keep public law, no public funding for abortion.
It seems to me that if the Senate parliamentarian is indeed insisting that the reconciliation bill address "current law," then that means the Senate bill must be not only enrolled, but signed by the President before reconciliation can be considered, at least in the Senate. I assume the House parliamentarian has no such objection to the House beginning its work (which is curious in itself), since he's apparently allowing the House to consider and pass reconciliation before the Senate bill is enrolled.
He went on MSNBC later with Norah and she first tried to get him to admit that the HCR bill as it stands now does not allow for government funding for abortions, but even with all the facts that she had like the AP and fellow pro-life Dems who are now supporting the bill, he flatly denies it. He calls it a "drastic break from current law for the last thirty three years." Even Allen Boyd is voting yes now.
(h/t Heather for the video)
There are a lot of rumors swirling, but we're hearing that Stupak may very well get his wish since the vote appears to be so close in the House and as a friend emailed: "I knew they would go there because that was the path of least resistance."
Please donate to Connie's campaign so we can take Stupak down.
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Pro-choice female Dems are shuttling in and out of Pelosi's office and they won't say why.
Even if they calculate accurately and know this latest Stupak bullshit won't pass, it really sucks that pro-choice women have to deal with this issue from the Democratic Party for years to come.
Cave to this ridiculous assclown. You will be enabling a authoritarian misogynist who belongs to a seriously dysfunctional cult that wears righteousness and arrogance on their sleeve.
This fuckwit should go join the other circus freaks at the GOP and stop soiling the name of the Democratic party, what little there is left of it.
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Stupak - as Michael Moore observed, has neither a uterus nor a brain.
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Let his SEPERATE carppy bill pass both houses and then Obama vetoes it. He will never be able to rustle the votes needed to override.
that includes the men, women and children, including the unborn, of foreign countries we bomb and invade without just cause.
They are ALL such hypocrites--especially the Rethugs and Rethug Lite.
Now THAT'S a reply I would love to hear given to Stupak...in public!!!! With cameras rolling !!!!!
mindset of a rural southern police officer. No matter what the facts, he still must be made to look right! This is s 'bubba' of the first magnitude...He will never see reason or the truth but likes the limelight even when being shown as the fool! Stubborn and sanctimonious and a control freak. Get him out of womens business--donate to Connie! Call Pelosi to make sure she gives this idiot no quarter. 1.866.220.0044 or 1800.828.0498
It ought to be perfectly clear to anyone paying attention to this conservadem, this is not about abortion, this is about protecting the insurance companies. This guy has outright lied about the language in the senate health care bill, and lied about the changes he wants to make to the HCR bill. Now either he is an absolute moron, like most conservatives, or either he is using the abortion issue as a shield to allow him to oppose this bill in protection of the insurance companies.
Why the hell shouldn't it covered with public funding? How about an amendment to prevent all the dick medicine in the little blue pills from being covered by public money?
I don't like my tax dollars being spent on building bombs to drop on brown people, or being given away to the religious nuts via the "faith-based" bullshit, but oh well, we don't always like what our money gets spent on. Tell the Stupaks and the rest of them to suck it.
Oh right, that would require Democrats with spines, never mind.
well said! I agree. To me, it's not about HOW MUCH taxes I'm paying, it's WHAT our tax dollars are going towards. I don't have a problem with my money providing healthcare to people. I just don't understand why that is so wrong to some people.
Some are just selfish and greedy , there is nothing more to them .
is Stupak's exact goal here? If the facts are in front of him, and he's still denying it, what is his goal?
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Men should have NO say in women's reproductive rights. When they start having babies, then they can weigh in. Until then, as long as abortion is legal, it is none of their business. This guy is nothing more than a self rightous control freak. He needs to loose his seat by a big margin in November. I don't live in his state, but I have already contributed to his primary opponent.
Drugs will soon make this a truly private matter most of the time. Then what these morons do to control women?
No Vagina,No Vote.....or...... Don't Like Abortion,Get A Vasectomy
....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
No danger of any pregnancy in that. Really, really safe sex.
Common sense is no longer common.
If Stupak is so against abortion and women's health and self-determination, what is he doing in the Democratic party?
I know there are other Dems who have a personal problem with abortion, but they don't spend their time trying to undermine all the consequences of Roe V. Wade, nor are they yammering about it now in relation to the HCR.
This BS belongs to Stupak alone, and he's the only one insisting on continuing the lie he started, more vehemently the ever....so this situation begs two questions:
1) Is Stupak simply insane?
or
2) Who is paying him---either in campaign contributions, or 'in kind;--in which case what's involved in the private deal ( and who)?
BECAUSE, the way things really work in Washington is that the vast majority have no principles except for their own advancement and well being, and Stupak was a nobody until he brought up this crap.
So methinks he is desperate because he's been promised something,as long as he pursues this insane line of bullshit to its utmost, instead of acknowledging that its bullshit.
So who's promising to pay him, and with what? The Catholic Church? The Family? The GOP?
that's what I meant by my post above - what is his goal here? It just doesn't make sense.
welfare for any one born to a mother who wanted to have an abortion because she could not afford to raise a child? This must include food, clothing, shelter, the same health insurance that Congress has, free education at the college of their choice, and of course, a car when they turn 16. Why do these hypocrites only care for babies until they take their first breath? Because they ARE control freaks. They are threatened by women, so best to keep them at home trying to raise kids without any money. Especially them brown ones.
Is going to lose its battle on Health care, now these Racist, Nazis have brought guns to rallies used civil discourse out and out LIES and threatened and berated genuinely sick people to Include Children.
With all of this known that this group are Hate and Fear Mongers are the airports going to be on extra security alert. I mean these WACK jobs are after any straw to include murder to advance their warped sick delusional point of view. Might I point out the Bogus letter that the Buffoon Moron Boner tried to pass off at a news conference. So will someone out there see if we can restrict the flight travel of these men tally deficient Morons so the rest of the REAL American Public can feel safe.
I demand that Congress pass a bill making abortion retroactive on demand. Call it the Stupak Retroactive Birth Correction Bill. It will only be used on C-Street cultists, Fox jagoffs and Regressive Party members.
Good work people, so much good info above. How is it that a country with so many intelligent people has such a crew of douchebags and assclowns like this numbnuts Stupak in power?
It really makes me wonder, isn't it time to really turn over the cookie jar?
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus
So if Stupac kills it, fine let it die. Come back with real reform.
Single payer now.
Republicans are liars and simply cannot be trusted.
If this bill dies, Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the entire Democratic party instantly become lame ducks, and we don't get to talk about "real" reform again for another generation.
The people can force votes on real reform if this fails. The media is lying when they say it'll be dead for another generation.
Republicans are liars and simply cannot be trusted.
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