Will McCain Back President Obama on Bush Signing Statements?

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As the New York Times revealed Monday, President Obama has instructed administration officials not to rely on the hundreds of signing statements issued by his predecessor. That move should please John McCain. After all, the Republican presidential candidate not only pledged "never to issue a signing statement." Back in 2005, McCain was doubled-crossed when President Bush issued a signing statement effectively negating the Detainee Treatment Act he authored.

In his Times piece, Charlie Savage (who earlier won a Pulitzer Prize while at the Boston Globe for breaking the signing statement story) reported that President Obama "ordered executive officials to consult with Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. before relying on any of them to bypass a statute." Obama's worry is well-founded. After all, in number and nature, George W. Bush's use of signing statements to skirt laws passed by Congress is simply unprecedented:

Mr. Bush frequently used signing statements to declare that provisions in the bills he was signing were unconstitutional constraints on executive power, claiming that the laws did not need to be enforced or obeyed as written. The laws he challenged included a torture ban and requirements that Congress be given detailed reports about how the Justice Department was using the counter-terrorism powers in the USA Patriot Act.

Dating back to the 19th century, presidents have occasionally signed a bill while declaring that one or more provisions were unconstitutional. Presidents began doing so more frequently starting with the Reagan administration.

But Mr. Bush broke all records, using signing statements to challenge about 1,200 bill sections over his eight years in office -- about twice the number challenged by all previous presidents combined, according to data compiled by Christopher Kelley, a political science professor at Miami University in Ohio.

But while President Obama did not today or during the 2008 presidential campaign foreswear the use of signing statement, his opponent did. In November 2007, John McCain announced:

"I would never issue a signing statement. It is wrong, and it should not be done."

McCain's unequivocal stand isn't just a matter of principle; it's quite personal. After all, when it came to the torture of terror detainees, George W. Bush stabbed John McCain in the back using the stiletto of a signing statement.

With his signing statement attached to the 2005 Detainee Treatment Act, Bush himself sought to create a legal basis for his administration's past and future criminality. In a nutshell, Bush signed into law a bill he had every intention of continuing to violate.

Bush, of course, had opposed John McCain's torture bill throughout the fall of 2005. But when the House and Senate passed McCain's amendment to the defense authorization bill by veto proof margins, Bush held a press conference on December 15 with McCain, announcing his support for the language explicitly saying that that the cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment of detainees in US custody is illegal regardless of where they are held.

As the Boston Globe reported, that supposed compromise lasted just as long as it took for President Bush to issue his signing statement two weeks later on December 30. When it comes to what constitutes "cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment of detainees," the President proclaimed that he indeed would be the decider:

The executive branch shall construe Title X in Division A of the Act, relating to detainees, in a manner consistent with the constitutional authority of the President to supervise the unitary executive branch and as Commander in Chief and consistent with the constitutional limitations on the judicial power, which will assist in achieving the shared objective of the Congress and the President, evidenced in Title X, of protecting the American people from further terrorist attacks.

That shocking presidential power grab, along with Alberto Gonzales' lies to Congress in 2005 about the administration's torture policy, served to emasculate John McCain's amendment. It's no wonder he vowed of future legislation in a McCain presidency that he "would only sign it or veto."

Of course, John McCain's record is replete with principles abandoned and personal grudges set aside in the name of his own political ambition. McCain, after all, turned the other cheek in seeking Dubya's support for his 2008 run despite his smearing by Team Bush eight years earlier. So when the Senate in February 2008 voted to ban waterboarding by the CIA, it came as no surprise that John McCain sided with the Bush administration in allowing torture by American interrogators to continue.

While the American Bar Association called on George W. Bush and future presidents to stop using signing statements, labeling them "contrary to the rule of law and our constitutional separation of powers," Savage noted that other legal scholars "said that the bar association's view was too extreme because Congress sometimes passed important legislation that had minor constitutional flaws." In his memo, President Obama endorsed that latter view, reserving signing statements only for "concerns about the constitutionality of discrete statutory provisions do not require a veto of the entire legislation."

In theory, John McCain should enthusiastically endorse President Obama's decision to view past signing statements with doubt, "placing an asterisk beside all of those issued by Mr. Bush and other former presidents." But as a recent New York Times profile of the Republican vanquished by Barack Obama would suggest, John McCain will always find something to complain about to remain on center stage.

(This piece also appears at Perrspectives.)



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Will McCain Back President Obama on Bush Signing Statements?

Let me answer that question by posing another: Should we really be giving this much of a shit about whether the LOSER of the last election will back Pres. Obama or not? He obviously has a chip on his shoulder over losing his best chance for the Oval office, so fuck him, IMHO.

That about covers it for me too.

This bitter old man stays up at night thinking about his November 4th ass whipping. And Obama's unprecedented reaching out to this nasty fraud has further exposed Grandpa as just another old GOP dog trying the same bullshit tricks.

Fuck McCain.

you mean he stays up until Jeopardy is over.

...sweating, crying, with Vietnam/Obama flashbacks.

Did anyone check with Michael Dukakis or Walter Mondale? Hell to tha NO! Republicans never asked permission from Dems to do anything and basically spent the last eight years marginalizing us. So pay them absoultely no attention.

I'm proud that Obama with one fell swoop undid 1200 moronic, greedy signing statements.

that pretty much sums up my thoughts on the subject.

Bet he rolls over, just like a dog on cue, when the republican machine says "never back anything Obama does".

completing his political journey from mediocrity to ineffective to simply pathetic.

...was probably the one thing I preferred about him over Obama, whose unwillingness to make such a promise may have been a hint of things to come, e.g., his indefensible positions on state secrets and some human rights issues.

Obama is proving to be a real mixed bag. His bold words are only occasionally matched by his policy choices and he continues to help the Right (weaken unions) on issues like teacher merit pay and charter schools. Of course, his continued reliance on Geithner and his ilk may doom Obama no matter what his policies are on non-economic issues. That will be sad, but he will deserve it.

about as far as I can throw a live adult elephant.

leave Rush Limbaugh outta dis.

The Old McCain was against torture. But the election season McCain was for it. I'm sure you'll see the same flip-flop here.

McCain - for bladder control before he was against it...for lucidity before he was against it...

What the bloody fuck? Are we actually going to start becoming a nation of laws again? Human rights? Civil rights? Democracy? Are we actually going to start revizing the ideals of the United States once again?

Amazing, if true. Christofascist terrorists who hate America and everything we stand for have seized theofascist control of this nation for far too long. Now it looks like a REAL President -- one who was actually elected this time around -- is restoring America.

That picture at the top of this post brings back some truly horrible memories. Like the way I felt as the election returns were coming in last November 4th, and at first they seemed to be breaking for McCain. I was about as low and sad as a person can be. Thank goodness things changed as the night went on. I just don't believe I could have lived through four years of McCain/Palin. Any time anyone feels uneasy about something President Obama has done, just imagine what you would be feeling if we were talking about President McCain and Vice President Palin.

President AARP and Vice President Pole Dancer

Just days before, however, I had run the states and times of their results and saw that the first seven or eight states to report polling were redstates which were reliably in the McCain camp. Even knowing that, and telling others to chill out for the first couple of hours, I was on pins and needles until the final pronouncement came in.

Knowing it in my head was nowhere near sufficient enough to counter the too many dumb fuck people in this country.

I knew better when the results began to come in, but I was just so damned scared. After the last two presidential elections, I knew the worst was indeed possible.

if McCain supports Obama on anything? He's just a senator, nothing more.

in actuality he's a wrinkled up old fuck who is so caught up in his own sense of self worth...that he is willing to forgo his beliefs on war, torture and the good of the country by siding with the lunatic fringe of his party by putting some going down the south side of the hill beauty queen and putting her a breath away from the Presidency.

We’ll have to give McCain enough time to get with Rush’s humongous gut on this subject before he abandons his principles. That could take a while.

Robert Gibbs yesterday:

This president [Obama] will use signing statements in order to go back to what has been previously been done and that is to enumerate constitutional problems that either the Justice Department or the Legislative Council here see as a potential problem through their reading but not ask that laws be disallowed simply by executive fiat

That sounds exactly like what Bush did. Using a pet Justice Department to declare something unconstitutional is far beyond any power of the executive. That's what the courts are for. If fact, if constitutionality of a statute is challenged in court, it's the duty of the Justice Department to defend the statute's constitutionality.

Ohhh...is Sarah Palin visiting Washington again?

ZIIIIING!

You just had to do it, didn't you? ;)

you KNEW it was gonna be me...didn't you!! LOL!

Yeah, I think I heard you think it even before you typed it.

signing statements are not new--its just that bush used them a bajillion more times than all of the previous admins...

and obama's order to disregard bush's end-run around the legislature is great.

but, and my question: if obama says not to honor bush's signing statements will he not use signing statements in his admin?

Has Limbaugh cleared it with Murdoch?

Has Murdoch cleared it with His Shadow?

More than once during the campaign, for whatever reason, McCain made a total fool of himself. One prime example was offering up his wife for a contest at a biker gathering. But the most glaring example was picking Palin as his veep candidate. He will go to his grave saying she was a fine choice but knowing deep in his heart she and Joe the Plumber and all that bs, ruined whatever chance he might have had without them.

Yeah, he has a chip on his shoulder but in reality, his real anger has to be at himself.

it was FAR more than once during the campaign.

Had I started listing them all, I would have still been typing right through happy hour.

McCain got a lot of mileage out of his disagreement with Pres Bush over the use of torture. That makes sense. McCain was larger than life, appearing as the poster child against torture in all forms of media. I'm pretty sure I remember McCain proudly standing behind Bush when the law was signed but, I also do not remember McCain making a peep hours later when Bush inserted his signing statement that allowed him to circumvent the law when deemed necessary. What a turd.

Old John isn't as stupid as bush, but their rise to fame is very similar. Both started out with advantages and both did whatever was necessary to get where they wanted to be. Bush had his family to get him what he wanted and John had Cindy to supply him with the money to get what he wanted. But in the end, even Cindy's money couldn't buy the Oval office.

I have zero respect for either man.

ot i know but cnn just announced north korea massing thier troops on the border , could it be kim is in such ill health and he feels americas in such bad shape from being tied down in the mid east with worn out weapons and no way of getting reinforcements from these zones of stupidity that obamas still persueing that hes ready to go for broke , and if he does will china have north koreas back as they did in 1950, i cant emagine anything worse then another war in korea!

John McWho? Oh, that old guy who smells like pee and got stomped in the election?

Some day all of that filth and garbage that McLame has spit out will come back to haunt him.
He is just like a pile of cow dung out in a field, you just side step him and go on.
Saying that you aren't a sore loser and then acting like one doesn't cut it.
Or is that just your own lack of creativity?
I fully expect the usual inconsequential torrent of half-assed gibberish to continue flowing forthwith from him.
The same lame senseless banter...........
He has nothing to offer

And I do mean nothing.

Not. a. thing

NOTHING

I am so glad he is not president!!!!

I was going to say something like: WHO CARES ????

But I see others have already been there and done that.

The republican party has shown itself to be completely irrelevant. They have no real agenda, no new ideas, and no clue as to what's actually happening.

And just what is happening? The answer to that question holds either a promise for a brighter future, or a nightmre I don't want to be present to witness.

Best of luck to you.

You must be joking. Let's remember this is John McCain, the ex-POW who got tortured in Vietnam who did nothing to oppose Bush administration torture in Abu Gharib and Gitmo, and frankly supported it. Hypocritical old fart.

And don't get me started on his violations of the McCain-Feingold Campaign Financing Act. Lying sack of shit.

As a Vietnam veteran, I have absolutely no respect for McAncient.

It is amazing that the republicans which have lost in the past 2 elections and they are giving republicans and people like McCain air time to ramble on with their lies and BS...

he might

I just finished reading " Takeover " by Charlie Savage .
What an excellent book - one that every American should definitely read !Obama has been left with such a mess ! So much corruption and way too many powerful people ! Where do you start ?
George W. Bush crafted an anti-torture bill and had a lot of photo-ops with John McCain to show how serious he was about ending torture.
Then clever George quietly issued a signing statement saying he reserved the right to over-ride the bill if he saw fit due to the war on terror and national security !
God help us all if the President and Executive branch are allowed to continue this concentration of power without the appropriate checks and balances !

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