Comcast denies involvement in RightNetwork
It looks like I woke up Comcast's PR department this morning with my RightNetwork report.
From The Politico:
UPDATE: Comcast tells POLITICO that Crooks & Liars' headline -- "Comcast partners with teabaggers to bring new right-wing broadcast network online" -- is misleading. Comcast tells me that it has received RightNetwork's pitch (see the .pdf here) but has not made an official decision to partner up with them.
Misleading? The sales material clearly states the intention to launch on television, web and mobile in the summer of 2010. Here's an image as it was in their PDF "lookbook" on the RightNetwork website before it was pulled last night. I've uploaded an archived copy of it to my own website so there can be no mistake about what I read and how I reported it.
Comcast's denial hinges on their assertion that Comcast-Spectacor and Comcast are separate entities with no relationship beyond common ownership. (Comcast owns 63% of Comcast-Spectacor)
Not so fast, Comcast. Let's start with this: The literature clearly states the intent to launch on "television, web and mobile" in the summer of 2010. A look at Comcast-Spectacor's holdings doesn't give any kind of clear-cut pathway to a broadcast/mobile/web pipeline. While Comcast-Spectacor does own Comcast Sportsnet, it's a regional property with affiliates in some, but not all, cities.
The owner of the pipes is Comcast. An "everywhere, anywhere" implementation of RightNetwork cannot happen without a pipeline. Comcast owns several, and hopes to own more. Xfinity is the brand name for Comcast's triple play service: Cable, cable internet, and cable telephone service.
Ed Snider may be the personal touchpoint, but without pipelines, how could he possibly make a claim like this?
Please note the exact language: "partners including COMCAST". Not Comcast-Spectacor. Comcast.
There was nothing inaccurate about my title or my post, but it must have Comcast executives gnawing raw meat today. Mediaite wrote a post that inspired this tweet from Keith Olbermann and a Mediaite correction to their title, following Brian Stelter's post about Comcast's denial:
This bad reporting http://tinyurl.com/y7wknrh is why Comcast issued statement about its non-involvement in Kelsey Grammar's Hatefest
Keith, Mediaite reported the same facts I did, based upon official literature published by RightNetwork, presumably after reading my post. It wasn't bad reporting. It was factual, based upon published and easily-available materials.
I may have caught Comcast's PR department sleeping on the job, but that doesn't make my report inaccurate. It makes it necessary for Comcast to issue a blanket denial, and it makes the RightNetwork sales material presumptuous IF, in fact, it was false.
If RightNetwork's pitch book is false with regard to Comcast, then a deal must be inked somewhere for someone's pipes, or else the authors of the RightNetwork pitch material are simply lying about their triple play content service, which certainly doesn't speak well for their plans to serve content to inspire truth and the American way.
Either way, I stand by my original report on this. I acknowledge Comcast's denial for what it is and will be watching to see whose pipelines are used to serve television, internet and mobile content from RightNetwork.
3:24 pm: Edited to change the link to Olbermann's tweet to his tweet, rather than the Mediaite story.
Related: Who might be funding RightNetwork?
If it happens, I move to satellite. Pretty simple equation for me.
I'm not going to support a media company that promulgates BS for the right and acts as another mouthpiece for the Republican policy.
What, Fox News isn't enough?
Name them. Name the so called liberal media. This I gotta see.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
this should be good.
Comcast's programming.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
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I have to question NBC on a lot of the choices they (Corporate head honchos) make. It seems they are far from forward thinking, they wish for the good old Monopoly Days. I sure hope this gets back to Phil Griffin and he makes some changes for the better.
Some examples:
Tamron Hall and David Shuster were the only good thing about the daytime lineup on MSNBC. David got muzzled for speaking out. Now if they could just put that muzzle on Morning Joe & Lap Dog Mika I might actually be able to watch before 6:00 pm est. They muzzled the wrong animal!
Anyone who thinks MSNBC is a "far left network" has no idea what a real left thinking viewer believes.
Please, can someone explain why Pat Buchanan is on almost every show on MSNBC and that is considered a "left wing station". WTF?
Why is that dude allowed to screech out his vitriol on almost every show on that channel? I gave up trying to tolerate Morning Joe (did you know he was a Congressman?), but now, NO time is safe... By the way, Phil, if you don't insist that Mika makes a public apology to Joan Walsh YOUR credibility with viewers is dust!!!
Please sign the petition to Phil Griffin to bring back David Shuster.
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He'll try do veer the discussion in any direction but Comcast.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Have we seen this kind of idiocy?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
works for Comcast.
His links were a bit too handy.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
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It just so happens that there is more rightwing talk on the airwaves then leftwing. 24 hours of FOX to start, just about any AM station. We'll give you MSNBC, but you can't dispute anything they say. Go ahead and try. I'll be specific. Dispute anything...anything, Rachel Maddow has said. One thing. Come on, one thing.
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If by Liberal Media you mean Comedy Central, MSNBC and sometimes HBO well that's not much.
Nobody, nobody in the MSM is challenging the lies and distortions put out by Fox, Limbaugh, Drudge, etc,. and repeated by their followers other than those mentioned above and blogs such as this.
media is corporate owned and tends to be conservative at the least
Redstate, Drudge, Beck , Limbaugh, and whatever else you go to.
Unbelievable.
Ok folks. ISP!
What is your conceptual, continuity?
ABC, CNN do not attack your boys. They may report on what he has said and may try and correct his many many many lies but never attacked him. How about a quote? Still waiting on your response to Maddow. I'll start with Rush and then you give me something Maddow lied about.
Rush recently attacked Unions for not keeping the the miners from the recent mine disaster safe when it was a nonunion mine. Your turn.
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was controlled by liberals, why did the only liberal radio station fail?
Because you are fucking too stupid to argue with. That's why.
I've never seen them blast Limbaugh and Beck all I've seen is softball interviews with no follow up no fact checking. There's plenty of lies and distortions to go after politifact has plenty of 'em from both sides.
to kiss MSNBC away, too as comcast is now slated to be 51% owner of NBC/MSNBC. It will take a little while, but they'll turn them into a 100% fascist propaganda operation.
The media must be liberal, because I keep hearing Pat Buchanan, Sean Hannity, Bernard Goldberg, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Brit Hume, Joe Scarborough, Michael Medved, Jason Lewis, George Will, William Bennett, Rush Limbaugh, G. Gordon Liddy, Mona Charen, Michelle Malkin, Matt Drudge, Glenn Beck, Mary Matalin, Laura Ingraham, Karl Rove, Joe Klein, Bill Kristol, Michael Savage, Oliver North, Newt Gingrich and Michael Barone say so.
You're right Big daddy . LOL
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
But you forgot Sarah Palin!
I don't know what Jack*ssJones said, but it must have been a doozy!
keep it up, karoli.
For you.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
One of my top favorites.
If it happens, I'm abandoning Comcast, too. Do they think the great majority who aren't righwingers won't vote with their wallets and pocketbooks? Comcast, you'd better make the right (meaning CORRECT) decision on RightNetwork!!
They're lying about reality, and claiming we MUST be crazy because we see links that exist.
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Corruption favors the wealthy.
LOL at that. There was certainly a lot of right wing accusations of that, but no, no one launched a 24/7 Obama network.
You counter with a right wing news site?
Why am I not surprised by that?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Are intellectually challenged.
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Danger, Will Robinson!
Dish did air this. But it wasn't a what he makes it to be. It was no different than any other. Obama campaign paid for this and there is nothing wrong with that. Dish did not fund it. Dish did not promote it. It's no different than the 14 religious channels or FOX that Dish carries. To claim that Dish was running it is just being dishonest. This was nothing more than a campaign channel for Obama and his policies and it was paid for. So Jack, even though the rightwing propaganda network FOX is not being paid for by Dish, should it still be removed?
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First link refers to a Paid Advertising channel...
Second link refers to an On Demand channel, not broadcast...
But you are correct that they were available 24/7.
Now, can you prove any part of your above statement involving the left wing control of all news media save FOX? Seriously...any part?
It's fun to play with he until he pulls a gun or sets off a bomb.
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David Koresch, Timothy McViegh are dead. Ritter is jail. Care to try again?
For every one you can name I can name five.
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SCOTUS (2000) and Diebold (2004). Catch up.
Timothy McVeigh? Or how about the guy who just got ten years for threatening the life of the President of the United States of America?
Teabag much?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
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Corruption favors the wealthy.
You haven't provided any evidence except for your opinion. You know the old saying, "Opinions are like assholes...you're an asshole" or something like that.
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I see. I'm supposed to believe your statement without proof after demonstrating that your previous proof of statement was less than completely accurate.
Color me unconvinced...especially as you assume I'm a liberal simply for disproving portions of your thesis and posting comments on this site. FYI I am fiscally conservative (defined as not wishing to WASTE monies as opposed to not wanting to SPEND it) and socially apathetic (defined as not giving a rat's ass for imposing my worldview on others).
News busters , LOL , no wonder . We have a real rocket scientist here folks .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
But it was fluff, and doesn't help progressive ends.
It's the same sort of deference they give reality TV stars, and just as educational politics-wise.
And all of us liberals agree on everything. There is no disagreement amongst ourselves on any number of issues.
And I'd luv to see the link to this so called Obama station.LOL.
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JackJones1 , you are delusional and brainwashed pal , given what you just wrote you probably think Limbaugh is center . And no , Fox doesn't consist of only one channel . As for Comcast , if you have an alternative you'd be doing your civic duty and yourselves a favor if you dump them . We lucked out , Verizon FIOS came to our area and we switched , was a good move , much more for the same ( or a little less ) $ . We signed up for the package , phone , high speed internet and TV , can't beat it .No I've nothing to do with Verizon other than being a subscriber .Have a nice day .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
cable provider's portfolio?
so technically, any provider could own the pipes, not just comcast.
...says it has partners INCLUDING COMCAST.
I signed up with 6 month introductory rate for combined phone and internet. That is just about up now. I have a local provider who is chomping at the bit to offer me service and if Comcast keeps d*icking around I just may take them up on it.
This is Sena Fitzmaurice from Comcast's Corporate Communications Department -- wanted to post our comment here to be very clear:
The blog reports that Comcast is an investor in, or partner of the Right Network are inaccurate. We have no partnership with this venture and have no plans to launch or distribute the network. As we have done with hundreds of other content providers, we have met with the network’s representatives. We do carry a number of independent networks on Comcast representing a wide variety of interests and diverse viewpoints.
An executive of a division of Comcast, Ed Snider, is personally involved in the network, but Comcast Corporation or any part of Comcast is not a partner with the network.
. . . with a hint of Kermit the Frog.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
You've got nothing but cliches. How about some substance--some actual quotes from the site? Huh?
It seems you're the one who is having a hard time with someone else's views. That's why you're here. Right?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
that the left preaches isn't for the right dumbf*ck. Right wingers get my boot on their neck.
But the fact remains that the literature which was published and available to anyone reading it says "partners INCLUDING Comcast." You don't have to invest to open a broadcast pipe, after all.
Coming from the company, anything that says that Comcast is a partner is inaccurate.
You might want to have a look into RightNetwork, then. You make it seem like they, or Ed Snider, are putting words into the Comcast Corporate mouth. Either way, I will still look into dropping my Comcast service.
...Original post, or followup. The information posted was accurate. I appreciate your need to correct misinformation, but maybe your focus should be on Comcast and RightNetWorks actual misinformation and not Karoli's and Crooks&Liars supposed misinformation. FYI by 'supposed misinformation' I mean correct information.
From Comcast Corporate Communications, let me just reiterate, Comcast is not involved as either a partner, investor or distributor of this network despite what materials have circulated.
Anything that claims to the contrary, for example claiming that Comcast is a partner, is inaccurate.
Ed Snider, an executive of a division of Comcast unrelated to our cable television distribution or programming businesses, is personally involved in this effort, this is personal involvment and Comcast Corporation is not a partner, investor, or distributor in this effort.
So, IOW, Snider and RightNetwork are lying about Comcast's involvement... sorta like they lie about global warming and Palin's qualifications for, well, anything. Gotcha.
I'd like to thank you for stopping by and telling us your position on this. If you're being 100% honest with us, I don't know. The public at large is so often lied to, it's hard to tell anymore if someone is being honest. Nowadays, it's spin city.
You say an executive of a branch or division of Comcast is personally involved with this effort.
Doesn't this make Comcast indirectly affiliated with this effort? I understand that Comcast is supposedly not a partner, investor, or distributor in this effort.
But, the man does have some pull. He does have a say so on what gets put out on the air. I find it hard to believe that his position in Comcast would not hinder him from promoting this new (channel?) on the normal Comcast line up.
With all due respect. Me thinks you need to have a chat with this executive.
I'll take your word on this Sena. But, rest assured, this isn't over yet. We will be watching closely.
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Because it sounds as if resources and funding are being used for this launch.
David Koch's denial that he finances Tea Party groups.
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"On television, through partners including Comcast, RightNetwork delivers programming on demand..."
So that does not say Comcast-Spectator or Ed Snider, it says Comcast, full stop. See where someone might think Comcast IS a partner of rightnetwork, since they claim that? Are you claiming that rightnetwork did not have Comcast's permission to make that claim? What will Comcast do about it?
Since Comcast is currently my ISP and cable provider, I am concerned, because I have no problem with leaving Comcast.
me-oww!
So, are you asserting that RightNetwork is lying in their marketing literature? It would not surprise me, but I'd love to hear you say it explicitly.
"and diverse viewpoints"
I don't think any content provider can really claim that these days.
That damn transparency... I'm sure they envy the Koch Brothers. ;)
These inter-tubes can be so unforgiving sometimes. :P
Holy-karoli, that was a Com-fast back-peddle smack down coming and going... Sweeeeeeeet ♥
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"...all Obama network...?" Which one was that? I missed it.
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But it wasn't a Dish supported network. It was a paid for advertisement. Apparently he doesn't nor does Newsbusters understand the difference. Comcast is supporting and promoting this Rightnetwork. There's a difference.
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See Comcast's official remarks farther up this thread. They say there has been no funding nor is there a partnership. That's their official stance.
It would appear that whoever drafted the PR materials for RightNetworks did not run them through Comcast-Spectacor or Comcast's legal department ahead of time.
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argument. Here's the point, just in case you're stupid and not just lying. There is more than enough corporate owned and controlled media. Right now, liberals/progressives get 3 hours a day, and with Ratigan, maybe another hour occasionally, every week day. Otherwise, we get nothing. That's factual. CNN? Fox Light. FOX? Complete propaganda. I could go on, but you wither get it by now, or your never will.
to back you up
Yawn.
How is that for a denial.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Someone missed the memo that the "SCLM" talking point is so 20 years ago.
Google it?
:)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
the liberal (corporate) media was in the bag for Obama, all you have to do is a search on this site for, or google McCain's Media
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comment? I thought it was funny that he replied to me inaccurately without even reading the whole one line.
are a dumbf*ck
There are an equal number of media measurement scientist who hold the oppositie view. I saw Bernie Golberg's book in a snow bank this winter!
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
of yellow snow.
is expanding, not contracting. There is no such thing as firm science when it comes to media temperature taking.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
needs to go whine back on redstate with your whiny "friends".
You just can bear having your precieous idiology slammed, can you?
STFU.
Hollywood ? LOL . You think all the news is run out of Hollywood ? What , are you a comedian ? All I can say is ... wow !
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
never heard of the Manhattan Institute where all nightly news is vetted from IMO
Nice job getting this out there and at least getting a response from Comcast. I've sent a message to them from my account site promising to cancel my subscription if they go this route (doubt it will do much given past experience) but every little bit helps.
January 20, 2009
3:00 PM -- Before most of us shut down for a long weekend last Friday, Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq: MSFT) unloaded its 7.3 percent stake in Comcast Corp. (Nasdaq: CMCSA, CMCSK), an investment representing about 5.2 percent of the MSO's Class A common shares.
Thus ends a financial partnership that never really turned into much of a cable set-top software footprint for Bill Gates & Co., which invested an initial $1 billion in Comcast in the summer of 1997.
Study the symptoms not the virus...
I assumed Microsoft, and more specifically the Gates Foundation, would be all over this RightNetwork.
Be careful, when you assume. ;)
Study the symptoms not the virus...
it makes a JackJones1 out of u and me.
So why am I smiling? :-D
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Why is this?
Nothing else. Who knows? Maybe Gates reads this site.
Whatever happened, he disapproved of the way comcast was heading.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
that since Comcast is purchasing NBC (and MSNBC), Gates is reorganizing. It might even be related to that deal.
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What is your conceptual, continuity?
January 20, 2009- over a year ago.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
karoli RULES - Comcast drools.
This is why I read C&L - because you all are doing the real work the M$M seems too confused to report.
Keep up the good and GREAT work!
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
shouldn't you be counting all those New Orlenians in Houston's midst about now?
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
are you talking about, as usual.
my old Houston haunting grounds.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Those people don't even pay taxes!!!!!
No, training starts next week. Then all hell breaks loose.
They all sound the same to me.
:)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
bombing thread? I didn't realize that that person was banned.
But you've got a point though, both farfy and JackJones1 seem like Jeopardy champions in the making. ;)
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Keith will be going back, back, back, back, back to the Sports Desk?
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
His tail between his legs. He did his job. He stirred everyone up.
How many times have we seen this pathetic bullshit for an argument?
They like their info spoon fed to them. They don't possess the ability to think for themselves. Intellectually challenged.
I say we ignore them. That's what I'm gonna do from now on. ISP!
Ignore Stupid People.
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Flagged every one of its inane comments.
Update: And I'm done!
;-)
I got read the riot act by a SiteMon, so rather than engage an obvious t-word (I'll admit, I did engage it twice in this thread), I did what they said to do: Flag it and forget it.
What's that? I've titties, twa*. Tiger?
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It means tigger.
Like in Winnie the Pooh.
Yeah, that's it.
;)
The t-word means tigger. I know I'm gonna look like a fool but give me hint.
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= Troll.
What lives under a bridge and tends to show up in these threads? Do I need to spoon feed it to you?
"Tigger" was a weak jab at the n-word.
Troll. Like I said I might look like a fool and I was right. I was thinking something offensive. Sorry. Long day at the liberal office.
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Living here in Liberal Calif, Amongst all of the liberals, I have to go to work. I work in Carmel right now, which is a known bastion of liberals( cause they got all the money doncha know) Whilst working on this home, I broke a toilet. It's not just any old toilet. NOOoooo.
Not for these liberals. They have to get some fancy shmancy sophisticted elitist toilet.
Cause you know they have to be elitist whilst crappin.
Can't be replaced. They don't make them anymore. Damn elitist liberals.
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I think that must mean you don't live in Carmel because I don't think anyone who lives in Carmel has to work. Santa Cruz maybe?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
To many tourists. Great place to work( for a little while) but I live in Seaside. With all the poe folk.
btw, most folks who are under 60 work if they live in Carmel. It's unavoidable. Unless, 1, trophy wife. 2, local,who's parents bought the house back in the 60's. 3, trophy wife.
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Carmel is the most Republican area of the state outside Orange County! It's filled with old rich white people who grudgingly allow Mexicans to clean their houses and serve them dinner.
By the way, if you broke the toilet, you're incompetent. And the reason the toilet isn't made anymore is because most of the houses in Carmel are old, and contain water-wasting fixtures from the WWII-era boom at Fort Ord. Hardly elite, more like antique.
sarcasm. Hear of it?
I shoulda added the snark slash/
But, it's nice to see you did read between the lines.
My, aren't we in a pleasant mood today.
Shit happens.
btw, Monterey Co voted 78% Obama.
And Carmel is a former artist community. It still is in a lot of ways.
But it's true. The GOp folks started moving in back in the late 80's.
The 90's they came in mass. Buying all of the old cottages and knocking them down to build some big house or whatever. But, I'd say it's at least a 50/50 split. A lot of these rich folks are Dems. They started coming back in the late 90's all the way up to the bust.
Especially in Pebble Beach.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
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no worky.
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"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
spraying for roaches. And in Houston, we know roaches.
Have you tried this?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
him into a discussion of the cap and trade scam. It is Number Two with a bullet on the Tea party hit Parade.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
They walk in here, make a stupid comment, gets bitch slapped than runs away. That's why I always say let them stay. It's fun to smack them down. He'll run back to the Malkin or Free Republic forum telling everyone how he took it to us. Let him feel like the big man for awhile. It's all he has. Unfortunately he left his left his brain at the door.
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Which one?
Jack Jones
I prefer to think it's the singer of "The Love Boat" theme.
Let's not try in any way here to BS each other... Comcast is trying it's level best to take over NBC from GE so the OWNERS of Comcast can team up with Rupe and his Newscorp guys to form another conglomerate that has even MORE sway over the message that is delivered to the public - worldwide...
The headline here, "Comcast denies involvement in RightNetwork" spells out the whole thing.. EVERYTHING Comcast is saying now - company wide - is a LIE. karoli deserves a HUGE THANK YOU for uncovering another massive plot by these clowns to further control the message...
I concur √
Study the symptoms not the virus...
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