Open Thread
By Logan Murphy Thursday Aug 13, 2009 7:30pm
Excellent town hall sign, dude! Photo found at Blue Hampshire Politics. That guy can dream...
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It's cute when mouth breathers try to get all literate and stuff.
obama does not have to bring back arrested development,
it's alive and doing quite well, living in the gop
reichwingnuts.
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Thanks, Cramthra. Enough said.
To the shithead who's holding up the sign: Obama does not have to bring back arrested development. You are ample proof that it still exists.
I believe the guy holding the sign is talking about the tv show that ran for 3 seasons and got pulled. It's really a great show and was too good to be cancelled. Check it out on Hulu sometime. One of the best written shows.
I was kinda indicating the sign to the right that is partially obscured by the frame edge. Like the reversal of fortune the Repuks are feeling, quoting Orwell and the like as if they spend time contemplating literature.
Making painful decisions
Pulling the plug on end-of-life counseling
arrested intellectual development of the birthers/deathers/teabaggers, etc. But whoops, I couldn't help myself! :-/
She is a community organizer, so to speak. A stupid one, but an organizer. Check it out.
also a liar!
*puke*
EEEWWWW.
*
See post a Daily Kos. Quite informative.
Katy Abram is a 9-12 Organizer
be exposed?
isn't that interesting! Thanx for the link, MM.
that all the posters that felt we should feel sorry for this poor,intimidated woman can now be told, nanner, nanner, ha, ha? I could smell the hypocrisy through my computer. They are all liars, every last, stinking one of them.
she only got interested in politics since the healthcare and stimulus started. I saw it on Tee Vee.
victimized numbskull indeed!
if Lawrence O'Donnell will do a follow up.
he was when he interviewed her.
Lawrence O'Donnell rocks, especially when he's mad!
And I'm starting to agree with everyone who wants to see him get a show of his own on MSNBC! :)
much better than Matthews. He should take over the show.
He doesn't blatantly pander imho.
Keith got me started on msnbc but lately(the last 6 or so mos.) Keith's been really one sided to the point where it's almost remeniscent of what they do on Faux News. Don't get me wrong He's still the highlight of the network.
I do Like O'donnel though and I think O'donnell, if he's gonna take over anybodys show, it should be ed shult's. All ed is is another version of Keith but without the eloquence.
Rachel Is getting better but she still is so high school, to me, in her commentary. I thought she'd progress quicker.
Late,
QSE32
the other side is filled with lies and the lying liars who tell them.
There is no "other side"
They need to 86 Matthews 7pm repeat, put O'Donnell in their. Throw Shuster in there at 10pm...that to me would be the perfect line-up...then at 11, over to TDS and TCR for my nightly fix of satire.
I agree, I think Rachel is a breath of fresh air. But her and KO both need to tone down the silly antics, and deliver more heavy 1-2-3 punches with their stories.
They need to go for the jugular.
I don't usually call people names, but...what a lying bitch!
I knew it, I just knew it. In the comments yesterday about her,I said I bet she was a beck fan. She just had beck-ism all over her and her language.
A religous freak from central Pensylvania, the worst kind. God and she looks so stinking familure, it is killing me.
If Ms. Abram is a plant, what kind of plant would she be?
I have seen more intellectual discourse from a cabbage. Even a cactus has more substance than she does although a cactus can be a real prick, if you know what I mean.
Tribulus terrestris.
http://idahoweedawareness.net/vfg/weedlist/pu...
doing some hating on Obama. We all know what this is about. when they refer to the constitution, they refer to the parts that grant power and sovreighty to white land-owning men.
Guys, check out Sibel Edmonds, the NSA translator, gone whistleblower:
http://www.askbutwhy.com/search/label/Sibel%20Edmonds
.
I would show up with a sign that reads:
I bet many of these anti-reformers would agree they don't deserve it, too.
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I'll wager that O'Donnell is not going to take getting pwned by this fake very well.
its going to be a movie
if obama can bring back wonderfalls, twin peaks, deadwood and carnivale, then he truly is the messiah
btw, another giant died today....east coast skateboarding god, andy kessler...at 48, from an alergic reaction to a wasp sting
That's funny. I just watched some of the episodes of Deadwood tonight.
It ended perfectly. No need to bring it back. Its done. And it ran a season too long as it was. Still, probably some of the finest TV ever made.
I do not EVER watch teevee....
But the ex INSISTED that I order all the past episodes of "Mad Men"....
So, I did. And I just stayed up waaayyy past my bedtime and watched the first 6 episodes.
There was so much smoking and drinking that I was tempted to run out to an all night gas station to buy a pack of Marlboros. (Kidding).
Seriously. Was that REALLY the way life was in the late 50's? (I was 8). Chain smoking at the office? Drinking hard liquor for breakfast? "A drink before or after the meeting or both?"
Oh well...anything to get my mind off this whole "birther...deather...health care hoo-ha".
Hack....hack.....
a new show. Never heard of it.
I believe the third season begins in a few days...
If you're big on the late 50's, NYC, Madison Avenue, booze, smoking, illicit sex and a prime time cable soap opera....check it out.
I don't get AMC but I don't care.
the other day after months of having no DVD-ROM drive. After repeatedly trying to remove and reinstall the drivers to no avail, I stumbled upon a fix at Microsoft. Apparently, one of their updates disabled CD/DVD-ROMs of various computer brands worldwide. And here I thought it was just a Toshiba issue. Thanks for informing us Microsoft...
"STOP your starting to scare George Orwell"
Any nut bar that would put that on a sign about this health care "debate" has clearly NOT read "1984" or "Animal Farm." I say again, Uneducated buffoons.
Late,
QSE32
It's been on DVD for years.
Right now the Repuplizan would apear to be stuck firmly between Animal farm and Lord of the Flies.
Ya, i wonder... isn't Animal Farm a movie now too or something?
Animal Farm is animated if I remember right. Don't know about it's accuracy to the book though.
I think you are spot on though with you assessment of repubs stuck between the Farm and the Flies!
Late,
QSE32
I like the animated Animal Farm from 1954.
Did you know:
Touchstone Inc, should not be confused with Touchstone Pictures. Although I have read that the CIA considered Hollywood an excellent propoganda tool during the cold-war, I would never go so far as to suggest a connection between the CIA's covert activities and the McCarthy hearings.
;o}
I'm serious.
Ha!
DELETE THIS
was turned into a stupid love story and the dvd is stupidly expensive!!
Late.
QSE32
Why don't we show up to our town hall meetings, where we know people are going to be yelling and screaming nonsense, holding up signs that are just as crazy? Keep it civil, of course, but don't back down from the position you take with your sign.
"GIVE MORE
GOVERNMENT CONTROL
TO THE CORPORATIONS"
"THE UNINSURED
DON'T MATTER ANYWAY"
"THE ONLY PERSON
WHO SHOULD PULL THE PLUG
ON MY GRANDMA
IS ME!"
As I feared there was an item on the American healthcare reform on french television yesterday (tf1, chapter 8 at 15:30 see it at http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-20h/le-20-heures-du-1...).
Basically what they say on the item is this:
Obama tries to push a new healthcare system.
Huge portions of americans are AGAINST it.
It becomes a total riot while they try to defend there hugely unpopular reform.
Americans don't want to loose their money to the state, they don't want to end up like communist.
Briefly at the end there is one sentence referring to Clinton "when they failed to push through healthcare reform they got sanctionned at the following elections", which is the only hint that some americans might like healthcare reform.
So I know the quality of reporting on foreign countries is allways overtly simplified and just a regurgitation of the local press (except when it concerns militaristic muslim countries, then somehow journalist seem to find back their critical judgement, and their scepticism when reporting on local news). But since in my view most Americans are dumb retards, uninterested in what goes around in the world, let alone to watch the news. The small bit we get to see , is as far they would probably make the effort to get informed.
So Republicans are still winning the propaganda argument for the dumb sheep. Question is are there enough smart people to counter the retard sheep-mass, or will you guys need to break up that propaganda hooliganism with the same weapons.
invaded and colonized by bat-shit crazy white Christians, many of our people decimated and slaughtered, our Mother Earth ransancked, all for Manifest Destiny, I say your comment has an awful lot of truth.
Many here are afraid to face reality and they will remain sub-human for their eternity. They become defenders of the status quo if attacked, even verbally.
I have heard this from so many people , the truth is this has been going on since the dawn of time , who built the pryminds , who built the great wall of china , who built the temples in peru , slaves , slaves know no color , the vikings would launch their ships on the backs of slaves ( to grease the skids ) Japan invaded china , blacks sold slaves , the Incas , the list goes back to recorded history .
What is your history ? .
Mythology in the indigenous populations first invaded shows reverence for Gonzalvo Guerrero, a European, a "White" man, a Spaniard, who is the father of the Mestizo, a new "race?" A mezcla of indigeous and European blood, tempered with Northern African blood.
The point is that I have a history. Where do you want me to start? Or is that just a rhetorical question?
Maybe you should google Gonzalvo and get back to me first!
it does not depend on how i look at it , rather my point was slaves know no color , it is about exploitation , and its always about power not color , get my drift .
It would be a big help if instead of being mealy mouthed Obama would call crap as it is. Those aren't "outrageous rumors" Mr. President. The are outrageous lies. Quit being so goddamned nice to people who hate you and get yourself a spine.
I guess nobody remembers the stuff that used to come out of Bush's
and Cheney's traps.
Legislation should be crammed down the throats of the self-defeating minions.
He doesn't want to be "The angry black man"
are so short. When he said the police acted stupidly a lot of people are still saying that he said cops were stupid.
A Utah newspaper doesn't care about gay married couples. Cheney the Dick was concerned that Dumbya started listening to others. Gates thinks will be in Afghanistan for "only" a few years. Another anti-Obama nut resorts to a stand-off. Sales are still down. Observers notice likely fraud for the new Afghanistan vote. Foreclosures went up 7% last month. Obama's doc has to play defense to avoid being swift-boated. Cali's still too cheap to fully invest in the the business which put it on the map. Weatherization stimulus money hasn't been spent yet. States screw college students outta financial aid. A gun-nut chose to shoot up a toll booth. A guy who was jailed for yawning got out early, but still gets blamed for the fascist sentence.
it's a shame that everyone associated with Obama has to be attacked. and the media dredges up palin and coulter to do it.
I'm wondering: is the rise in mortgage failures proportionate to the rise in goldman/citi bonuses? Don't answer.
They certainly give quality affordable health care across the border.
in this country, its a way to get rich!
READ THE MEMO: Internal Document Confirms Big Giveaways In White House Deal With Pharma
picture of the damning memo
Update: Gibbs Won't Say What White House Gave Drugmakers To Gain Their Support
even the most loyal Obama fan will be left standing and wondering WTF just happened. When the entire healthcare industry supports this supposed reform, people should pause to question why that is. Just because a government is changing healthcare doesn't mean it will benefit any of it's citizens. If you leave rotten food in your fridge for 3 days, it's still rotten. This entire fiasco smells bad and everyone should be seeing redflags. Hoping that somebody in Washington is going to do what is right, is about as realistic as the Easter Bunny. How much does the Democratic Party owe the healthcare industry, that they attempt some kind of payback every time they get the Whitehouse?
The American people deserve REAL healthcare. This isn't going to be it, sadly.
Aug. 13: Msnbc political analyst Eugene Robinson joins Countdown’s Keith Olbermann to talk about how conservative scare tactics and claims about “death panels” have trumped the chance for reimbursement for end-of-life counseling.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#32411068
I love her.
the best one-two punch available in the msm. KO and Rachel.
The people that I've introduced to their shows have become regular viewers.
That's one way of fighting Republican misinformation and lies!
The first clue in this 'pay to play' system was when the healthcare 'INDUSTRY' sent Hilly home with empty hands, turned her on to 'C' Street, Prosperity Gospel, 'The Family' GAG!! After that, she was nothing but a whore, like everyone else. This will not happened this time either because this is a corporate country only interested in the mega corporations. The reprocussions will be felt like a civil war and the PUKIES will have successfully taken over the Democratic party thereby changing their 'brand' from the party of NO.</p> Slowly boiling frog metaphore. This is a creepy coup de etate and sneaky.
I don't drive, and I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR YOUR ROADS! The Founding Fathers never intended for cars to be socialized! They knew that the private sector would be much better at planning, building and maintaining roads and highways could ever be!
I'm going to go to the next town hall with a big sign that says "HEY CAR-OWNERS - I DON'T WANT *MY* TAXES GOING TO BUILD *YOUR* ROADS!" I'll get the mic and scream about how this is so unacceptable and deserving of hysteria -- "Everywhere I go, I see roads, streets, highways, freeways, offramps, onramps, overpasses, underpasses -- THIS IS NOT WHAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS INTENDED! For me to have to pay taxes so that YOU can drive YOUR car around safely and get to where YOU'RE going -- that's socialism? Why should it be harder for me to pay the rent, just so that YOU can go cruising?!? Do you think the Founding Fathers drove THEIR cars on socialized roads? I tell you they didn't! I don't want this country turning into Los Angeles!!!"
Freeways were invented by Hitler! And he was a Nazi, and Nazis are socialist, cause it's in the name. So I extra double hate that. Just say NO!
And the military? Why should I be forced to defend the country's borders when I live in freakin' Iowa? If the Canadians invade, it's Minnesota's problem, not mine. They made the choice to live there, and plenty of people in Minnesota and other border areas make over $50,000 a year and can afford their own guns and tank traps without me subsidizing THEIR OWN CHOICE! Whatever happened to personal responsibility?
And speaking of Iowa, someone told me the Sen. Grassley was actualy born in Quebec. He was smuggled in as an infant by fur trappers. Listen to his accent, for cryin' out loud. That illegal immigrant frostback ain't my senator!
And Dammit! I want Arrested Development back too. Stop making Will Arnett take all these stupid movie roles. He's better than that.
my being stupid , i have been thru , this end of life 3 times , and never did the doctor charge us for his/her time . Their concern was that we knew what we faced ie you parents have renial failure , congestive heart diease / they are brain dead . We talked about this before they where at the end of life and all decided to DNR as in no heroic measures .
Should this be paid yes , so that those that walk out of these rooms having watched their loved one exspell their last breath , watching their eyes see you for the last time , watch the color drain from their faces , feel their hands go cold , watch them breath no more .
Who could vote for any one against this last human right .
To answer your question, a rabid right winger could because they have apparently had their heart and brain bred out of them.
maybe we should pass a law that in order to serve in any public office ( they wanting to be public servants snark ) should have to work in nursing homes , change bed pans and wipe asses ( might make them more careful about kissing them ) bringing food and spoon feeding those that cant help themselfs , of washing and cleaning , or heaven to bid listening and talking to us .
The right wingers couldn't find anything of substance to bitch about in the bill so they just invented something. They named their invention "death panels" and then they ranted on about how awful it was. They did the same thing to Kerry. He had done nothing wrong so they invented a story where he did do something wrong. I sure as hell hope their invention doesn't work this time.
They couldn't get away with it if the media didn't cooperate. They report crap like that and do nothing to refute obvious lies, or do so weakly. They don't confront obvious liars (Palin, etc.) about those lies. Palin twitters, the media rolls their collective eyes, but don't do anything. How about some of those guys camping out in front of her house and demand she defend her outrageous statements. Never going to happen, never.
You're right. Toss the media a nasty crumb and they'll gobble on it for weeks. Then they'll spit it out and never tell us how nasty it was.
There's a lot of stupid out there...and the corporate media is getting enormous advertising revenue from Big Pharma & the Health Insurance Syndicate to pimp this stuff 24-7...
If this town hall mob brownshirting makes the Dems wilt on healthcare reform & a climate bill.... I've lost hope...in this nation.
Leaked Memo - Oil Lobby's ‘Energy Citizens’ Astroturf Campaign Exposed Before Launch - http://www.desmogblog.com/oil-lobbys-%E2%80%9...
An internal memo obtained recently by Greenpeace USA details polluting interests’ plans to launch a nationwide Astroturf campaign attacking climate legislation at public events scheduled throughout the final weeks of recess before the Senate returns to debate the issue in September.
Perry GA I'll be there...to counter protest until the sun sets....
Astroturf memo exposed: Oil Lobby's 'Energy Citizens' Astroturf Campaign Exposed - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-grandia/l...
The oil industry is recruiting people to rally against climate legislation in key congressional districts, according to an internal memo obtained by Greenpeace. They're taking cues from astroturf campaigners who've been crashing health-care town hall meetings around the country.
If the corporatocracy succeeds in derailing healthcare reform & climate bill leglislation...this country is absolutely 100% doomed to fail....its really going to be time to start thinking about living elsewhere...for as long as you can...
Why Do the Same Groups Oppose Health Care and Energy Reform? - http://www.desmogblog.com/why-do-same-groups-...
So what do the voices shrilly opposing health care and energy reform have in common? Money. Both stand to lose big if Obama succeeds in enacting the agenda the American people elected him to do.
Keep that in mind the next time you see an expensive ad telling you to fear efforts to make our health care more accessible, or our energy more sustainable.
WITHOUT A DOUBT: Howard Dean: ‘There will be primaries’ if health reform passes without a public option. - http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/13/dean-ther...
I will absolutely not give any money to the DNC, DCCC....only to individual progressive candidates....
Obama will be a one term president....and the Dems will lose in 2010....unless they get their $hit together and do what needs to be done...don't hold your breath...
MUST READ: Greg Palast on Obama's Problem with Big Pharma - http://www.gregpalast.com/obama-on-drugs-98-c...
Red-Handed: "We are urging our member plans to participate in town hall meetings ..." – Karen Ignagni, head of lobbying group AHIP, representing more than 1,200 insurance corporations - http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/former-ex...
Former exec: Insurers fomenting town hall chaos
"When the kooks take the stage": "All we’ve learned here is something we already knew: This nation never has to worry about suffering from a shortage of kooks, cranks, and ideologues."
- http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_o...
How the other (non-corporate/paper based) economy is doing: Bankruptcy Filings Up 35 Percent Over Previous Year - http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2009/08/ban...
Please do your job: Attorney General Holder: Look at the torture photos - http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/0...
The cornerstone of modern international humanitarian law -- the Geneva Conventions of 1949 -- was adopted after the release of vivid images of Nazi concentration camp survivors. And it was the United States and General Dwight D. Eisenhower himself who insisted on distributing huge volumes of these photos to the media.
The images of corpses, prisoner remains and emaciated survivors helped persuade nations around the world to develop and adopt new universal humanitarian norms. It's because images can be so powerful and can motivate action that the Obama administration now wants to suppress them.
Tomgram: Withdrawing by Bike from Iraq - http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175106/withdr...
"In imagistic terms, the Bush administration biked into Iraq. Back in its salad days, when all was green and upbeat, its top officials loved the idea that they were training the eager Iraqi kid in how to ride the bike of democracy. President George W. Bush liked to talk about the moment when we might take the "training wheels" off the Iraqi bike and let the little fella ride into the democratic sunset on his own." NOTE: What disgusting, demeaning, paternalistic BS!
The Republican "States Rights" Mantra is a Fraud - http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/08/1...
So the Republicans have been talking about "states rights" lately. But they only do it when it fits their needs. Gay Marriage ban come to mind?
Fox Noise Glenn 'Happy Feet-get off my phone' Beck loses advertisers - http://www.reuters.com/article/peopleNews/idU...
"Some of the nation's biggest advertisers are distancing themselves from Fox News host Glenn Beck after he called President Obama a racist during a July 28 broadcast."
That magic underwear is getting really stinky....maybe its time to change it....
Richard Power: Healthcare, Climate Change & the Ugly Political Realities: This Boat is Sinking? - http://words-of-power.blogspot.com/2009/08/he...
France and Germany on Economic Rebound? - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Fresh signs of a nascent economic recovery came from hard-hit Europe on Thursday, with Germany and France unexpectedly becoming the first major industrialized nations to officially pull out of the global recession.
So those 'SOCIALIZED' nations pulled through first...hmm....hmm.....gee...regulated economies, with tariff protections, and universal healthcare.....what our country once was - minus the universal healthcare (and not for a lack of trying)...
GOP Once Again Creates Fiction from Fact and Prevails: The Political Saga of the "Death Panel." - http://welcomebacktopottersville.blogspot.com...
Evil Empire: Exxon Mobil Corp. pleaded guilty in federal court in Denver to killing at least 85 protected waterfowl, hawks and owls in five states over the past five years, the Department of Justice announced today.
- http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2009/08/13/13gre...
The worst of the worst....
CEO of Whole Foods Calls Healthcare Reform Socialistic - http://www.americablog.com/2009/08/whole-food...
Stop shopping there....
So they're not racists, eh? WP: The Secret Service is investigating a man who authorities said held a sign reading "Death to Obama" outside a town hall meeting on health-care reform in western Maryland. The sign also read, "Death to Michelle and her two stupid kids," referring to the first name of President Barack Obama's wife, said Washington County Sheriff's Capt. Peter Lazich.
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Con-servatives can only BS themselves....and those who don't do their homework....
Photos don't lie-- Health Care Protesters: "We have no idea what we're talking about" - http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009...
No $hit.....
Drew Westen: "The American people did not vote for "bipartisan" solutions that split the difference between the failed ideology of the last eight years, which continues to cost thousands of people their jobs and homes every day, and the change the President and the super-majorities they elected in both houses of Congress promised."
- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/drew-westen/cha...
The Mob of Thugs Prevails: Some Democrats are Giving Up on Town Halls on Healthcare Reform - http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2009/08/...
Hawking Comes to Defense of British Healthcare Under Attack by Greedy, Brain Dead U.S. Right Wingers - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12059...
Who are you going to believe....the smartest man on earth (literally...widely believed) or the dumbest MFers on this planet?
"Internal Memo Confirms Big Giveaways In White House Deal With Big Pharma" - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/13/inte...
Robert Parry: The right-wing fury at town hall meetings over health care and the Republican obstruction of any serious reform in Washington are not just symptoms of a complex debate on an issue packed with powerful special interests; it is a test of whether reality matters in the United States
- http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/081309.html
Will common sense & reality defeat the forces of con-servative stupidity and mob rule???
Car Chase Ends in Police Standoff in California With Man Wanted By Secret Service for Making Terrorist Threats to White House. LAPD Bomb Squad on the Scene.
- http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-secret-...
Did the "Deathers" Win? End-of-Life Counseling Dropped From Finance Committee Healthcare Legislation - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/13/pol...
Wow...we've got stupid on tap in this country....
Bombshell: Cheney Starts Attacking Bush, Accuses Him of Having Gone "Soft" in Second Term - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Con-servatives redefining stupid every day: Latest Attack on Healthcare Reform: Obama Will Make Your Hospital Totally Gay. We Can't Make This Stuff Up (But the Nutters Sure Can)!
- http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_treatment/...
Yep...that's right...Tinky Winky is going to be your anesthesiologist....
For What It's Worth: USA Today Poll Indicates Corporate/Lobbyist Town Hall Racist Mobs are Working in Influencing Independents Against Healthcare Reforem
- http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-...
We've got to get common sense back in this country....we don't need Idiocracy...we need Democracy...
Bill Clinton: GOP promotes fear over health care - http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/A...
Political Irony - http://politicalirony.com/2009/08/13/pinocchi...
Rep. John "Ohio congressman with a Florida tan in February" Boehner (R-you name it he's pimping it/Ohio) is the Only Person Allowed to Decide What Is Un-American -- GOP Hypocrite of the Week
- http://blog.buzzflash.com/honors/207
What, he doesn't want Prsident Obama to bring back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_GxXRbSFDg
?
I say bring back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdCx6wYslho&fe...
Angry man at Spector Health Care meeting has been on Government Disabilty for 4 years.
and those gov't financed anger management sessions have been going swimmingly!
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/14/dem-la...
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