Is there anything this guy hasn't been involved in? What's next for Joe, "Dancing with the Stars?" I was watching H&C last night and made this clip after I almost couldn't stop laughing at this guy. Joe "the Plumber" Wurtzelbacher is the perfect definition of what a wingnut is if you never understood the term before. You see, he survived in our country using welfare, a program designed to help the needy, but now says Obama is not loyal to our country because he wants to take our money and give it to other people. Does he drive a Cadillac too? I guess if it wasn't for welfare he wouldn't be littering our air waves. His 15 minutes are almost up.

Colmes: Do you really doubt that Barack Obama's loyalty to the United States?

Plumber: Ah...to a Democracy "yes," I mean, right back to the, as far as the Socialism issues, spreading the wealth around. I mean, Alan that is right out of Karl Marx.....Webster dictionary...government health care...

Colmes: You don't think he's loyal to our country?

Plumber Joe: To democracy? He's proposing a lot of changes that could change the core of America, don't you think?

Plumber Joe: Was it patriotic for Joe Biden to say "take my money and give it to other people? That's patriotism?

Colmes: Well, let me ask, you were on welfare once, was that taking somebodies else's money and giving it to you?

Plumber Joe: Paid into welfare. It something to be used, not to be abused like it often is.

Spoken like a true wingnut. He's perfect for FOX News. Colmes nailed him pretty good. He talks about his principles at the end of the clip, but really they are no principles at all, just the principle of a wingnut.

Jed has more:

So it turns out that when Plumber Joe was a child, he was on welfare, not once, but twice, and he credits it with helping his family ultimately lead a middle-class life style. He defends having received welfare by saying that he's subsequently paid into the system.

Suddenly we have Joe The Reasonable, right? Well, not exactly. Plumber Joe has got something of a tax dodging problem. In the end, he's just another typical Republican hypocrite.

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If you're a wingnut attacking Obama for his past ties with other people that's just fine, but when confronted with controversial association on their side and they just say NO. We won't talk about it because it's irrelevant to us. The same Michael Steele that I ran into the airport in Denver moments after McCain picked Palin as his running mate and who said he loved the choice was on Hannity and Colmes and really looked like a fool when confronted with the many screwy and dangerous associations McCain and Palin have made over the years. The segment strayed away from the basis of the segment and became a usual FOX hit job on Obama.

Colmes:...but doesn't it concern you about the links to Saddam Hussein to the McCain campaign? The lobbyists on the McCain campaign, the secessionists Party that Sarah Palin's buddy-buddy with? The fact that they hate America? Doesn't that concern you?

Steele: Who you asking?

Colmes: Michael.

Steele: No.

Colmes: Why Not?

Steele: Because it doesn't. Because you asked the question.

You're concerned about Barack Obama associations but not these.

Steele: You get to the point Alan where you do the tit for tat and the bottom line is whether Sarah Palin did this that or the other thing is irrelevant. Barack Obama has not come out and fully explained or dealt into these issues. That's why we're still talking about them.

Colmes: Neither has the other side but the same standards have to apply.

Steele: The reality of it is, if you're going to raise it then we'll talk about it.

Sarah Palin's ties to the AIP are irrelevant because what, Michael? And he wouldn't answer the question at first. Anyway, I found this little snippet interesting for what it reveals about the Steeles of the Republican Party.

In a classic case of IOKIYAR, Newshounds catches Karl Rove echoing the same meme on Hannity & Colmes for which Sean Hannity was only to happy to use to castigate Barack Obama last summer.

In his “just wondering” voice [..], Hannity asked, “I'm trying to understand, if John Murtha's referring to people in Pennsylvania as racists and as rednecks, and we know what Barack Obama said about bitter Americans clinging to their guns and religion with antipathy towards those that aren't like him. He was talking about the people in the state of Pennsylvania. I'm trying to understand, why would anybody in Pennsylvania vote for him when he said that in a, you know, in a real moment, that he didn't think he was being recorded?”[..]

“Well, he's got a problem,” Rove replied. “[..]James Carville once famously referred to Pennsylvania as Pittsburgh on the west, Philadelphia on the east and Alabama in between. I think that was his way of sort of mimicking what John Murtha said. But it's a conservative part of the state. And then if you take the far southwestern corner, over there near Pittsburgh and the suburbs, that's coal country and that's the kind of people who really do cling to their guns and their faith.”

Um, huh? Not that I disagree with the assessment, but wasn't this the most horrible thing that Obama could have said -- a campaign killer, if you will -- this past spring? Wasn't that the statement that you said was elitist and disrespectful to rural voters?

Of course, Hannity is too delusional to note the hypocrisy, so thank goodness for Alan Colmes for calling Rove on the double standard:

Colmes said with good-natured mocking, “Hey, Karl, you didn't just say people cling to their guns and faith? I don't believe you just said that. You didn't say what Obama said.”

Rove smiled but he began stammering. “No, no. I'm just... I'm quoting Obama. In quotes.” Rove made quotation marks in the air.

Colmes said, “I didn't see the hand quote thing.”

No one did, Alan. They weren't there. It was just that big, lying, ought-to-be-in-jail hack politico pulling his usual crap.