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Michael Moore was on Larry King Live last night with Wolf Blitzer, and there was a classic moment after Moore calls insurance companies "thieves and jackals" and says they'll take the fines rather than help people. "The question should never be, 'How much money are we going to make on this?'" Moore said.

BLITZER: Isn't that the basic nature of American capitalism?

MOORE: Yes, it is, Wolf. That's why this economic system we have is broke, it's bankrupt, it's corrupt, it's unfair, it's not just and We need a more democratic economic system where the people are having a say and the richest one percent don't control the whole thing.



Liz Cheney Defends The Birthers

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Can Dick Cheney take his daughter Liz back to his undisclosed location and keep her there? Why the hell is Liz Cheney so visible now? I can't recall seeing her hardly at all during the eight years of Bush/Cheney and now she is ubiquitous.

And sadly, her entire reason to be on the air is to be a divisive partisan pain in the ass. Her goal is to continually fuel the hatred and suspicions of all those wingnuts barely holding on to their sanity as it is.

When asked about the Birthers and their Obama Derangement Syndrome, rather than take the adult stance of saying that it's a shame that this fringe group isn't willing to accept the reality that the President was born in the US, Cheney gleefully pounces on the chance to slam Obama for being "anti-American" and refusing to stand up for what the US believes in.

CHENEY: I think the Democrats have got more crazies than the Republicans do, but setting that aside, I think that….You know, one of the reasons I think you see people so concerned about this, I think that this issue is …people are uncomfortable with having ---for the first time ever, I think--- a President who seems so reluctant to defend the nation overseas. A President who sits through a completely venomous screed by Daniel Ortega and then his only response—when the United States has been hostilely attacked—is to say “hey, you know, basically, I was only three at the time.” And you know, we’ve seen this….

CARVILLE: That’s so…

CHENEY: James, don’t interrupt me. We’ve seen this again and again and again, where this President seems to sort of want to create moral equivalence…

KING: Are you saying…it’s because he’s a Kenyan?

CHENEY: No, I’m not saying that. I’m saying that people are fundamentally uncomfortable and they’re fundamentally, I think, increasingly uncomfortable with an American president who seems to be afraid to defend America. Who seems to be afraid to stand up for what we believe in.

Head. Slams. Keyboard. Seriously, Liz, do you really think this is constructive at all immediately following a video of a woman so high strung and so out of touch with reality that she's just a step away from snapping altogether? Is it possible to step out of your friggin' partisan mindset for two seconds and just say that the Birther movement is a bunch of nutcases and they need to come to grips with reality? I'm no fan of Carville, but he nails Cheney for her disingenuous rationale:

CARVILLE: Let me hurl a fact around. These people….these poor, pathetic people believe stuff, just like Ms. Cheney tonight. She refuses to say it’s ludicrous because she actually wants to encourage these people who believe that. It’s just a simple thing: “This is a nutty thing. There’s nothing to this, I disagree with this president’s policy.” They can’t say that. They can’t say that because they’re scared they’ll lose the sort of nut wing of their party.

Well, exactly, James. And as someone who had to suffer through transcribing this mess, I note that Liz Cheney tends to fill time with a lot of "I think"s. Actually, Liz, if this clip shows anything, it's that you don't think.



Larry King Live: Randi Rhodes Talks About Leaving Air America

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Former Air America Radio talk show host, Randi Rhodes, appeared on Larry King Live to talk about the controversy surrounding statements she made about Geraldine Ferraro and Senator Hillary Clinton, and her subsequent departure from Air America.

Rhodes was unapologetic as she took a few swipes at AAR management and claims they wanted her to amend her contract and that's why she left.

<Correction>

The final lines of Logan's piece were originally edited, but the changes didn't take in Word Press after it was uploaded and then published. CNN's behavior was fine. Thanks for the emails. JA



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For the last two days, Duncan has been explaining his position on religion. I do agree with most of what he says. I happen to take my faith very seriously. I don't like to talk about it because I feel it should be very personal and very private. Ted Haggard yelled his to millions of people at the top of his lungs and what happened? He was a fraud. The media frames religious belief in basically this way...The Donohue/Falwell/Robertson view of life and morals or there's a check box just below the form that says---"Other." And we know what "Other" means to the media and the DFR's.

If you don't follow the DFR's ramblings completely, to them and the media ---you aren't really religious or "spiritual" in any way. You're a faker. Just trying to appeal to a certain segment for votes---or----because consultants tell you to. "Did you see Ted Kennedy go to Church?" "Yea, what a phony." The media has allowed extreme leaders to seize the moral compass away.

Here's a clip from November of 2005 on Meet the Press, (it's low quality) and watch the hideous messages Falwell and Land are sending out about life and women.

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Media Matters highlights how facts and figures are all lies to these people.

The beauty of America is freedom of religion.---or not to have any...Roy Moore is from that ilk. If you don't follow their way regarding religion then you're trying to turn the country into a version of the movie called "Caligula." The media gives the DFR's a platform and if anyone disagrees with them in any way, you don't count...Agnostics, atheists or whatever you might be aren't able to have morals because you didn't learn from them. I have to laugh at the DFR's though because each one thinks their religion is the best one. Here's a board member of the FRC and his view on the Pope.

But FRC board member Albert Mohler, the president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, has made several public anti-Catholic statements. During a March 22, 2000, appearance on CNN's Larry King Live, for example, Mohler asserted, "As an evangelical, I believe the Roman church is a false church and it teaches a false gospel. I believe the pope himself holds a false and unbiblical office."

Continuing on his anti-Catholic theme, Mohler wrote in a September 16, 2006, entry on his personal blog, "[T]he office [the pope] holds is an unbiblical institution based in a monarchical ministry that is incompatible with the New Testament's vision of the church. Furthermore, he claims also to be a head of state -- a situation that adds untold layers of additional confusion."

What should Donohue say about that? Nothing. He speaks at their functions as they laugh at his faith---while he sends out vile missives attacking people. C&L readers know that I speak out against the extreme religious right leaders, the people who raise millions of dollars and want the US of A to be run by their interpretation of the bible. That's not what this country was founded on and I reject it...



"Just Us" Sunday-Part II

Talk Left : "There is always a great sadness whenever faith leaders call for a theocracy," Knox said during a telephone interview ...read on

The Circus Clowns will be in full force today making believe they like Catholics in order to perpetrate their religious persecution myth. Armando reminds us about this. Bill Donahue is one of the saddest examples of a Catholic "Circus Clown" there is. He stood next to Albert Mohler during the first "Just Us" Sunday and this is what Al's tolerance of other religions allowed him to say: "I believe that the Roman church is a false church and it teaches a false gospel...and indeed, I believe that the pope himself holds a false and unbiblical office."-- (R. Albert Mohler, Jr., on Larry King Live, March 2000)

Chris Matthews had Mohler on his show before JS1 and being the anointed Catholic on MSNBC failed to question Al on his anti-Catholic views. Nice going Chris. "God's Own Circus" will stick up for Judge Roberts and cry fould because he's Catholic, but in their hearts they believe Catholicism is a false religion.

Prediction: Tom Delay will go way over the top tomorrow. Cole: "Personally, I can’t wait to hear what Tom DeLay will have to say. Or maybe I can."



Bob Costas refuses to host show about Natalee Holloway

While some cable TV hosts are making their living off the Natalee Holloway case this summer, Bob Costas is having none of it. Costas, hired by CNN as an occasional fill-in on “Larry King Live,” refused to anchor Thursday’s show because it was primarily about the Alabama teenager who went missing in Aruba. Chris Pixley filled in at the last minute....read on

Is there any angle that anyone has missed yet? It is a tragedy for her and her family, but aren't there many other pressing stories that might find it's way onto one of the highest rated CNN programs? What would Cafferty say?



The Bush Administration Was For Amnesty International Before It Was Against It

via Think Progress: Tonight, Vice President Cheney will appear on CNN’s Larry King Live and reportedly condemn a recent Amnesty International report that faults the U.S. for its treatment of detainees in the war on terror. Cheney has said: For Amnesty International to suggest that somehow the United States is a violator of human rights, I frankly just don’t take them seriously.

On March 27, 2003, Rumsfeld said: We know that it’s a repressive regime…Anyone who has read Amnesty International or any of the human rights organizations about how the regime of Saddam Hussein treats his people…

The next day, Rumsfeld even cited his “careful reading” of Amnesty: It seems to me a careful reading of Amnesty International or the record of Saddam Hussein, having used chemical weapons on his own people as well as his neighbors, and the viciousness of that regime, which is well known and documented by human rights organizations, ought not to be surprised.

And on April 1, 2003, Rumsfeld said once again: If you read the various human rights groups and Amnesty International’s description of what they know has gone on, it’s not a happy picture.

So TP nails the Bush Administration on their flip flops yet again.

Talk Left has more: Bush Calls Amnesty Report 'Absurd'

That's our leader, in denial, as always. At a press conference today, George Bush called the Amnesty International report on Guantanamo abuse (pdf) "absurd."

David Corn responds. If anything is absurd, it's that the Bush Administration has held 70,000 persons prisoner during its war on terror.



corrente

I can accept Bush butchering Lincoln, but must He butcher Eisenhower?

Granted, Bush's Veteran's Day speech wasn't the weird travesty that His D-Day speech was—but still..

Here's the Eisenhower quote in context:

At a distance, their headstones look alike. Yet every son or daughter, mom or dad who visits will always look first at one.General Eisenhower put it well in 1944, when he wrote his wife, Mamie, about "the homes that must sacrifice their best." The families who come here have sacrificed someone precious and irreplaceable in their lives -- and our nation will always honor them.
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Standard issue Bush bathos and fakery, you think? No. Here's the whole quote from Eisenhower; I've crossed out the parts that Bush left out, for vividness:

How I wish this cruel business of war could be completed quickly. Entirely aside from longing to return to you it is a terribly sad business to total up the casualties each day even in an air war and to realize how many youngsters are gone forever. A man must develop a veneer of callousness that lets him consider such things dispassionately; but he can never escape a recognition of the fact that back home the news brings anguish and suffering to families all over the country. Mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, wives and friends must have a difficult time preserving any comforting philosophy and retaining any belief in the eternal rightness of things. War demands real toughness of fiber-not only in the soldiers that must endure, but in the homes that must sacrifice their best.
(via Women of Wars)

 
General Eisenhower put it well in 1944, when he wrote his wife, Mamie, about "the homes that must sacrifice their best." The families who come here have sacrificed someone precious and irreplaceable in their lives -- and our nation will always honor them.
(via Whited Sepulchre House transcript)
Standard issue Bush bathos and fakery, you think? No. Here's the whole quote from Eisenhower; I've crossed out the parts that Bush left out, for vividness:

How I wish this cruel business of war could be completed quickly. Entirely aside from longing to return to you it is a terribly sad business to total up the casualties each day even in an air war and to realize how many youngsters are gone forever. A man must develop a veneer of callousness that lets him consider such things dispassionately; but he can never escape a recognition of the fact that back home the news brings anguish and suffering to families all over the country. Mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, wives and friends must have a difficult time preserving any comforting philosophy and retaining any belief in the eternal rightness of things. War demands real toughness of fiber-not only in the soldiers that must endure, but in the homes that must sacrifice their best.
(via Women of Wars)

Funny how Bush left out the arithmetic part ("total up the casualties"), the empathatic part ("the news brings anguish"), the longing for peace ("this cruel business"), and the challenge to faith ("a difficult time preserving any comforting philosophy.") Read on...

A liar and a coward                  Here's What's Left
Vice President Cheney on Larry King Live:

KING: Amnesty International condemns the United States. How do you react?

D. CHENEY: I don't take them seriously[.]

KING: Not at all?

D. CHENEY: No. I -- frankly, I was offended by it. I think the fact of the matter is, the United States has done more to advance the cause of freedom, has liberated more people from tyranny over the course of the 20th century and up to the present day than any other nation in the history of the world. Think about what we did in World War I, World War II, throughout the Cold War. Just in this administration, we've liberated 50 million people from the Taliban in Afghanistan and from Saddam Hussein in Iraq, two terribly oppressive regimes that slaughtered hundreds of thousands of their own people. Funny how Bush left out the arithmetic part ("total up the casualties"), the empathatic part ("the news brings anguish"), the longing for peace ("this cruel business"), and the challenge to faith ("a difficult time preserving any comforting philosophy.") Read on...



(Update)-Dobson tries to defend Mohler on Hannity and Colmes-Video

via Armando

Senator Ken Salazar (D-CO) continues to snipe at Focus on the Family, Frist's ally in Extremist Sunday. The Senator points out that Focus on the Family board member R. Albert Mohler, Jr said:

The board member, R. Albert Mohler Jr., said Thursday he stands by the comments he made in March 2000 on the cable news show Larry King Live.
"I believe that the Roman church is a false church and it teaches a false gospel," Mohler said at the time. "And indeed, I believe that the pope himself holds a false and unbiblical office."

Salazar called on James Dobson to repudiate Mohler. Well done Senator Salazar.

Tip to Colorado Luis.

(Update) From Hannity and Colmes, Dobson tries to defend Mohler with the" he's a Southern Baptist" defense.

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Larry King interviews Michael Chiavo

MICHAEL SCHIAVO appeared on Larry King Live last night.

KING: And Everyone keeps saying, Michael, I'll ask George in a minute, even if she said to you, I don't want to live like this, which is the reason you've been doing this, so what? If she's not in pain and the parents want her to be alive and you're no longer involved, so what? Why not keep her alive?

Michael: This is what Terri wanted. This is her wish.

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You know something, Larry, I feel like the government. What I'm here for tonight is I'm going to tell you -- I feel like the government has just trampled all over my personal life. It is uncomprehensible that a government can walk all over somebody's private judicial matter, because of their own personal feelings.

In this segment I saw a little footage of Terri that I had never seen before. It is heart wrenching.