Two of the three in the discussion used facts to back their assertions. One did not.

Bill Maher tried to use Paul Krugman's column as the baseline for the discussion of whether or not Obama's presidency is the disaster Matalin and West claim it is.

John Avlon injected reality toward the end of the segment.

Rather than argue for who is right or wrong, I'll leave it to you.

As an aside: Does Mary Matalin leave you with the impression she's a marionette?