Special Comment: On Michael Chertoff's Gut
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Download | play (last few seconds were clipped)Keith Olbermann lets the Secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, know how insecure the homeland must be if we are to rely on his "gut."
So there are your choices: bureaucratic self-protection, political manipulation of the worst kind, the dropping of opaque hints, a gaffe backfilled by an "instant report," or the complete disintegration of our counter-terror effort.
Even if there really is never another terror attempt in this country, we have already lost too much in these last six years, to now have to listen to Michael Chertoff's gut, no matter what its motivation.
John Amato: "I wrote about Chertoff's "gut" remark the other day which resonated throughout the blogosphere and said he should be fired for it. O'Reilly liked it because he's paid to say that about "Chertgut."....Olbermann had a few choice words of his own." Transcripts below the fold...
And now as promised, a Special Comment -- on Michael Chertoff's gut.
You have by now heard the remark -- instantly added to our through-the-looking glass lexicon of the 21st Century, a time when we suddenly started referring to this country as "the homeland" as if anybody here has used that term since Charles Lindbergh or the German-American Bund in 1940.
Michael Chertoff's "gut feeling."
Which, he took pains to emphasize, was based on no specific nor even vague intelligence -- that we are entering a period of increased risk of terrorism here.
He got as specific as saying that Al-Qaeda seems to like the summer, but as to the rest of it, he is perfectly content to let us sit and wait and worry - and to contemplate his gut.
His..... gut!!
We used to have John Ashcroft's major announcements.
We used to have David Paulison's breathless advisories about how to use duct tape against radiation attacks.
We used to have Tom Ridge's color-coded threat levels.
Now we have.... Michael Chertoff's gut!
Once, we thought we were tip-toeing along a Grand Canyon of possible and actual freedoms and civil liberties destroyed, as part of some kind of nauseating but ultimately necessary and intricately-designed plan to stop future 9/11's or even future Glasgow car bombers who wind up having to get out and push their failed weapons.
Now it turns out we are risking all of our rights and protections -- and risking the anger and hatred of the rest of the world -- for the sake of Michael Chertoff's gut.
I have pondered this supreme expression of diminished expectations, for parts of three days now. I have concluded that there are only five possible explanations for Mr. Chertoff's remarkable revelations about his transcendently important counter-terrorism stomach.
Firstly, Mr. Chertoff, you are as Richard Wolffe said here the other night, actually referencing not your gut but your backside -- as in, "covering it." C-Y-A.
Not only has there not been a terrorist attack stopped in this country, but your good old Homeland Security hasn't even unraveled a plausible terrorist plan.
And you and your folks there have a different kind of stomach pain, knowing that with a track record that consists largely of two accomplishments -- inconveniencing people at airports, and scaring them everywhere else -- your department doesn't know what the hell it's doing, and even you Mr. Chertoff, know it.
Secondly, of course, there is the explanation of choice for those millions of us who have heard the shrill and curiously timed cries of wolf over the past six years -- what we've called here "The Nexus of Politics and Terror" -- that there isn't anything cooking, and your "gut feeling" was actually that you'd better throw up a diversion soon on Mr. Bush's behalf, or... something real -- like the Republicans' revolt about Iraq, and the nauseating "gut feeling" that we have gotten 3,611 Americans killed there for no reason -- was actually going to seep into the American headlines and consciousness.
It's impossible to prove a negative, to guarantee that you and your predecessors deliberately scared the American public just for the political hell of it -- even though your predecessor Mr. Ridge admitted he had his suspicions about exactly that.
Suffice to say, Mr. Chertoff, if it ever can be proved, there will be a lot of people from Homeland Security, and other outposts of this remarkably corrupt Administration, who will be going to prison.
Thirdly, and most charitably, I guess, Mr. Chertoff, is the possibility that you have made some credible inference that we are really at greater risk right now, but that any detail might blow some sort of attempt at interruption. There is some silver lining in this one.
But the silver lining would have been a greater one if this National Counter-Terrorism Center Report hadn't leaked out the day after you introduced us to your gut; a report suggesting Al-Qaeda had re-built its operational capacity to pre-9/11 levels.
Not only did this latest hair-on-fire-missive remind us that Al-Qaeda's re-growth has been along the Pakistan/Afghanistan border...
Not only did it remind us that your boss let this happen by shifting his resources out of Afghanistan to Iraq for his own vain and foolish purposes, to say nothing of ignoring Pakistan...
Not only did it underscore the ominous truth that if this country is victimized again by Al-Qaeda, the personal responsibility for the failure of our misplaced defenses would belong to President Bush and President Bush alone...
But on top of all of it, Mr. Chertoff, it revealed you for the phony expert you are -- the kid who hears in confidence something smart from somebody smart, and then makes his prediction, that what the smart kid said confidentially, is about to happen.
It reads just as you revised the "gut" remark this morning, sir -- the "informed opinion." The kid telling stories out of school.
The fourth possibility is a simple reversal of the third, Mr. Chertoff.
You shot off your bazoo, and then this National Counter-Terrorism Center report was rushed out -- even created -- to cover you, to give you credibility, to cloud the reality that you actually intoned to the Chicago Tribune, the 21st Century equivalent of "by the pricking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes."
But the fifth possible explanation of your gut, Mr. Chertoff, is the real nightmare scenario.
And it is simple.
That you, the man who famously told us "Louisiana is a city that is largely under water," meant this, literally.
That we really have been reduced to listening to see if your gut will growl.
That your intestines are our best defense.
That your bowels are our listening devices, your digestive tract is full of augurs, your colon produces the results that the torture at Gitmo does not.
All hail the prophetic gut!
So there are your choices: bureaucratic self-protection, political manipulation of the worst kind, the dropping of opaque hints, a gaffe backfilled by an "instant report," or the complete disintegration of our counter-terror effort.
Even if there really is never another terror attempt in this country, we have already lost too much in these last six years, to now have to listen to Michael Chertoff's gut, no matter what its motivation.
We cannot and will not turn this country into a police state.
But even those of us who say that most loudly and insistently, acknowledge that some stricter measures, under the still-stricter supervision of as many watchdogs as we can summon, are appropriate.
But you're not even going to wring any of that from us, Mr. Chertoff, if we're going to hear remarks about your "gut feelings."
You have reduced yourself to the status of a hunch-driven clown, and it's probably time you turned your task over to somebody who represents the brain and not the gut...
Certainly to somebody who does not, as you do now, represent that other part of the anatomy -- the one through which the body disposes of what the stomach doesn't want.
YOU GO DUDE , KEITH!!!!!!!!!
i wonder how bill O sleazy will come back with this,, oh what happend to fat ass rush? hes been so silent lately.
perhaps his oxy contin drugs have taken the full effect :) ?
Does KO check C&L?
Site monitor, I have to do this now and then.
I have started emailing all congress and the senate with the following letter. Copy and paste it and send to your reps. Boxer has gone to Pelosi to try to get Impeachment back on the table. Let’s see if we can help.
Dear Congress Members and Senators:
It has come to the attention of the citizens of the United States of America that you have been hamstrung by politics in the matter of impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney and President George W Bush.
May I remind you that, the grievances against King George III are very much the same as the grievances “WE THE PEOPLE” have against the present administration.
“WE THE PEOPLE” expect the congress and the senate to respect our forefathers, the Declaration of Independence and our Constitution. Over 50 percent of our citizens favor impeachment. “WE THE PEOPLE” expect the congress and senate to act in our behalf. I hear that many of you think that impeachment would divide our country and cause too much controversy. You may look around your own halls of congress and see that, we are already divided.
My challenge to you is, take this adapted “DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE” to the floor and share it with the other members and bring it up for discussion.
My second challenge to you is, send copies of this adapted Declaration of Independence out in your newsletters and emails, to your constituents and ask them for a response.
Declaration of Independence
[Adapted In The United States Of America July 4, 2007]
The Unanimous Declaration of the Citizens United States of America From the George W Bush Administration, Corporate Control, Shadow Government, Right Wing Main Stream Media and The Military Industrial Complex
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these States; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present President of the United States is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Congress to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation With Signing Statements till his assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to Obey them.
He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has Divided representative houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; With Voter Caging and Suppression of Votes, whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavored to Increase the population of these states; for that purpose
Ignoring the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and Lowering the conditions of Seeking Employment In The U.S.A, Therefore Driving Down The Wages Of The Working Class.
He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.
He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.
He Has Misled The American Citizens To Invade A Sovereign Nation To Gain Control Of Their Oil Resources At The Expense Of Taxpayer Funds And The Lives Of Our Young Men And Women In The Military.
He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to civil power.
He has combined with Corporations And The Free Press to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states:
For cutting off FAIR trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing taxes on While Lowering Taxes On The Most Wealthy Among us without our consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury:
For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses:
For abolishing the free system of Constitutional laws in a neighboring States, establishing therein an arbitrary government, and enlarging its boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule in these States:
For taking away our Freedoms, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments:
For Hamstringing our own legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated government here, by declaring us out of his protection and waging war Against Foreign Nations.
He has Ignored Our Citizens On Our Ravaged Gulf Coasts, Torn Down Our Educational System, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of the head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our Fellow Citizens And Citizens Of Other Nations taken captive In All Lands to bear arms against their country, to become the executioners of their friends and brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections Of Foreign Nations, and has endeavored to bring on the Civil Discourse In Iraq And The Middle East Oil Producing Nations, whose known Rule Does Not Conform With Our Democratic System.
In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A President, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the Leader of a free people.
Nor have we been wanting in attention to our Republican brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our Disappointment With Them. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace friends.
We, therefore, the Citizens of the United States of America, in Objection To The Current Administration Are , assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these States, solemnly publish and declare, that these united Citizens are, and of right ought to be free and independent states; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the George W Bush Administration, and that all political connection between them and the state of Corporate Oligarchy, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.
Notwithstanding the above, I believe the only way to remove this administration will be by force.
Yes, that's what is has come to.
Rarely am I inspired to propound thusly, but:
Holy Fuck Toad in a Basket. What have we come to???
Chertoff can't account for 40% of his budget. Chertoff claimed to not know the levees had broken in New Orleans a full week after they had broken. Clearly, he is incompetent, a scaremonger, and a liar.
Perpetually Disappointed @ 5:
A Rouge State apparently
Take your country back. Repeal the Patriot Act 1 & 2
Giving up your liberties is not protecting your freedoms.
IT'S GIVING THEM UP. They are the same thing.
Stop the Future Shock and the Double Think!
now for that hooked on a feeling gut feeling,, i am glad i said what i said in my blog lastnight.
JERKOFF is nothing more the gobbles,, the new properganda machine.
FUCK YOU MIKEY AND THE BEND OVER AND COUGH TRICKS YOU HAD TO TO , TO BE FOLLOW THE SAME FOOT PATHS AS THE SOVIETS AND THE NAZIS!
http://theprogressivepost.blogspot.com/2007/07/national-security-guess-w...
Keith is at his snarky best here. Go Keith, Go!
TYKO
Ron @ 3:
[...] us. Let’s put the fear in Americans by telling them that Al Qaeda is stronger than before 9/11. Michael Chertoff is that last person that should be talking about his gut. American’s would stand up and get [...]
Is it a gut feeling or is Chertoff and other Neo-Cons like Santorum and Arkansas Republican Party Dennis Milligan preparing us for another inside job? In the last week these comments have been made.
Santorum - "Between now and November, a lot of things are going to happen, and I believe that by this time next year, the American public’s going to have a very different view of this war, and it will be because, I think, of some unfortunate events, that like we’re seeing unfold in the UK. But I think the American public’s going to have a very different view,"
Milligan - "At the end of the day, I believe fully the president is doing the right thing, and I think all we need is some attacks on American soil like we had on [Sept. 11, 2001],"
Now I ask you, are these people hoping for another attack? These people are psychopaths..
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the last man with a hunch worth listening to was Igor in that Mel Brooks movie.
Chertof is no Igor.
That being said, I noticed the Homeland security folks are putting out a radio show on NPR called "Homeland Security inside and out". it was on Wednesday on WAMU.org.
Sounds like either its part of a Public relations ploy, or a growth industry opportunity operation to get you to worry about a lot of things..
its originationg from Texas A n M http://homelandsecurity.tamu.edu/
We have nothing to fear but fear itself....
(HA..not with these rubes..)
skeletor spoke and someone recorded it!!!!!!!!!!! good!!
folks are getting sick and tired of the same karl rove that fat faced fuck who could use a few lipsucktions .
SHOVE it up your ass whitehouse and all its lap dogs. you and you alone HAVE failed the USA! a place where i used to be proud of,, where i was born and grew up in for 29 yrs of my life.
Like the song from BOSTON says,, ´´dont look back´´ and thats the only thing that keeps me to not weep for the USA.
time and time again, ppl were given a chance to vote less extream and they,,,,,,,,didint! after 9/11 aheeeemmm, it was back to my country right or wrong do or die.
and look at pat tillman. fragged for his belief that the iraq war was a illegal one. He was right and well shot dead!
so now over 3,500 service ppl have died,, the war is costing YOU the american tax payer,, 12 billion a month and where the fuck is congress?????? still bitching about the little things,, i mean soon its vactaion time ,, again for congress, and they cant seem to vote on jack shit. Ok pay raise yes. As for all the rest of which you and i voted for , in hopes congress would act,,,,,,,,,its become like that a seeing a mamoth sink into a tar pit,, and just up the hill , a jackass brayyyyyyyyyy its laughter, as it too goes off the beaten path and falls into the same damn tar pit.
MEANWHILE BACK AT THE REG FOLKS CAVE,,
i,,,,,,,,gotta go and get ready for work. thanks folks for a cool time here and danke for alles for the siteowners auch.
Mitt best regards to all,
The Baker!!
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Wow, Kieth at his razor sharp best!!! (holding her sides from laughter)
Keith sure as hell has guts, but speaks from the cerebral cortex. We need more like him in media if we are to survive as a vibrant nation!
I find it shocking that Chertoff is still around. Doesn't that blow your mind?
And I didn't know he referred to Louisana as a "city"! Thanks, KO!
Compare KO to O'Reilly. One speaks so intelligently and eloquently, the other not so much.
Any football fans?
Starting with the 2007 NFL season, Olbermann will also serve as co-host of NBC's Football Night in America with Bob Costas.
Am I the only one to notice how the MSM and various point people in the government are lamenting the "likelihood of another terrorist attack" this summer? These bastards are up to something, and I wouldn't put it past them to orchestrate an 'attack' to justify martial law and the Bushites completely taking over.
BE PROUD TO GET LOUD, END THE BUSH REGIME!! If we have to do it ourselves, so be it.
Olberman: "We will not have a police state in this country. That said, police state is appropriate under these times"
paraphrasing
WTF?
In the 1960s it was the summer of love.
Now we have the Summer of Fear.
With the Bush Doctrine of no safe havens, preemptive war and democracy in tatters, the President remains focused on staying the course in Iraq at all costs. In Washington, House Minority Leader John Boehner calls Senate GOP rebels on Iraq "wimps" and Tony Snow slanders the press corps as "defeatist." Meanwhile, Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff announces his "gut feeling" about the increased threat of terror attacks within the United States.
Meanwhile, the resurgence of Al Qaeda on their watch continues unabated.
For the disturbing details, see:
"CIA: Resurgent Al Qaeda Now at Pre-9/11 Capability."
I have a gut feeling that America is doomed.
Bic @ 22:
His point at the end there was that we need to be diligent and smart about it but obviously, not a "police state" the way the Bushies want.
And all this talk is rather disconcerting -- could they possibly know another attack is coming? Or are they crazy enough to have it happen so we'll support their ideological war?
Kick-Ass Keith!
Cheney out of the side of his mouth: You make goddamn sure that by the time this summer's false flag hits, that everyone is thankfull it just didn't happen sooner!
MSM: Yessiree Dick.
This seems to prove that Al-Qaeda does indeed follow events in the US, and there attacks are timed to coincide with the release of bad news for the Bush administration.
Personally, I think they should do away with the Department of Homeland Security and let the FBI, the CIA and our law enforcement people nationwide do their jobs. I lived in Florida during and after three hurricanes in 2004 and the DHS was a total joke then, with corruption scandals all over the place. And we have all seen what they did in Katrina, almost nothing. They are useless and nothing more than political hacks.
I lived in Ohio when a big tornado came through and demolished Xenia, Ohio. The President declared an emergency, called out Army and Air Force personnel from nearby bases to help the National Guard, and they cleaned up the mess. Interestingly, that President was Richard Nixon (Yeah, really). So, tell me again, why do we need the DHS?
As usual, KO kicks some serious ass. I know in my gut these assholes are tuned into every comment by Keith. They don't have the balls to respond to his comments. They have no answer for truth. Keep up the great work, Keith.
Good interview with Moore too.
Dunbar @ 26:
I too wonder about about Chertoff's "gut" statements.
Ron @ 3:
Phej Omatic
Do me a favor and send it to your reps.
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My "Gut" feeling about Michael Chertoff is that he is a terrorist along with the rest of the treasonous bastards that have seized this country and its really more than just a gut feeling. The evidence is overwhelming [deleted]. We're coming for you and we are going to get you all!
It is sooooo past time for every American to take stock. Since 9-11, we have lost 3600+ soldier's lives, 26,000+ wounded, nearly three quarter million Iraqi lives, spent nearly a trillion dollars on a failed War, created new enemies all over the world, abandoned Afghanistan and strengthened AlQueda, abandoned the victums of Katrina, surrendered our civil rights in two Patriot Acts, trashed nearly every government agency of any effectiveness, destroyed the Judicial Branch of government, lost the net number of jobs to overseas cheap labor, added more Americans to the list of no health insurance and poverty roles and bowed to a single view of theocracy. Shame on Congress, the media and lastly, the lazy Americans that have allowed all let this happen.
Am I paranoid or do you think maybe they are trying to take our mind off important stuff like health care? Impeachment? Dick Cheney? The war?
Git out there Cherty and scare the people. Heckofa job.
Those fuckers.
Chertoff is another fascist AIPAC, neocon suck ass.
Bic @ 28:
It would be nice if we get our vacations in first.
Keith did a great job against Mr. Burns stunt double
Chertoff has a gut feeling that we're(the GOP) are under imminent threat of attack by the terrorist(we the people, that believe in the Constitution).
Well I wish it was true, but the so-call terrorist(freedom fighter) are still complacent in the US.
The networks were all over this on their morning "news" programs Thursday morning. NBC's Today Show even had a story all cued up about how al qeada had transformed and was run as though there were "franchises" and how powerful they had become, etc. It was not a piece they threw together overnight. Richard Engel was interviewing supposed leaders of these al qeada franchises (their faces covered, of course), talking about how they had evolved etc. NBC, and probably the other major networks, new the Dept of Homeland Security was going to come out with this "gut feel" of a terror attack, and the "leaked" report about al qeada being stronger than ever, and they were good little boys and girls and played along with the war mongerers - par for the course for these fools.
how many more friedman units before the usa implodes under the weight of bullshit it's fed every hour on the hour by the likes of jerkoff and his pal's ;)
I'm a happy camper. K.O. used my tag line in his take down of Secretary "Devil".
"by the pricking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes." Macbeth, Wm. Shakespeare
I will not need a catastrophic mangling of the Declaration of Independence in order to let my displeasure known to my Representatives and Senators. As Jefferson so aptly said,
"Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government) those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny”. Who knew that President Jefferson was so prophetic? His next quote, I pray, does not come to pass:
"Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government...” However, if and when that day comes, I will fight for my country against those who would pervert and destroy the Founding Father's hopes and my children's dreams of these United States of America.
Pathetic. It's the 21st century, not 1776, and It's not YOUR country, It's THEIRS, and The Police Man Is Not Your Friend...wake up and keep on your toes...
Chertof's gut rumblings are nothing a little high colonic would take care of.
(be careful though..that much waste in one place could burst the levees again)
BRILLIANT!
An excellent special comment as usual. As usual though, is anyone listening? Like our Senators and our Congress? The really scary thing is that I don't think they are. Oh sure they make a lot of noise; have hearings; form committees and write strongly worded letters to the White House. I am beginning think that is all it really is. Just noise. Smoke and mirrors. This so-called Administration, this mis-Administration should have been ridden out on a rail a long, long time ago. They have not. What is going on? The way it stands now these criminals are setting a very, very dangerous precedent for the next administration if they are allowed to finish their term. Maybe that's the intent. Maybe the next president will be worse. I truly fear we are witnessing the death of the United States as we know it.
So why doea bush do all this wire tapping and message intercepts, torture and renditions if we could just hire a bunch of people with guts with feeling?
Fools on the Hill @ 6:
It is too bad the media won't start referring to him as Skeletor.
I can't stop wondering how Cheney is going to spin the attack on Iran. There is no way in heck he's leaving the white house without doing SOMETHING about Iran. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if January 2009 comes and goes and he's still in office.
Keep an eye on those detention camps KBR was contracted to build.
a. Remind me to NEVER get K.O. mad at me.
b. I'm concerned that cheney/bush have no intention of leaving office in 18 months. How else will they stay out of prison when they are no longer in a position to control the 'legal' system? How will they do this? All cheney/bush need to do is create a phony (or even real) terror emergency. Then bush takes over the government as 'president for life' (remember that executive order?)
Go KO, and f*ck you Crypt Keeper!
I am very glad to see the Americans finally realizing how these neocon's want a police state I am a Canadian we are all very worried about them as they will influence our Government next ie war on drugs Harpers conservatives also I would like to point out that most of the world does not dislike you Americans are decent people it is the policies of your government the people abhor God bless and the POWER to the American people according to their constitution one of the best in the world don't let the neocons steal it from you fine people Jerry
He certainly doesn't mince words, and it's always true!
Let us all pray he doesn't break wind any time soon.
Only thing I wonder is what is Chertoff's gut feeling who the terrorists will be. Will they be the al-Quaeda terrorists who we decided to stop pursuing in Afghanistan, or are these the new terrorists from Iraq that the U.S. created out of thin air?
There are way too many camera cell phones and the Americans now what to do with them when the attack happens. A virus is the only option they have. Just look at the "UK terrorists", the bravest of the bravest "Al-Qaida" has produced in the recent years. They were not even murderers, they were suicidal. If they were terrorists, they would have hit the pedestrians before hitting the terminal, they would shot a few passengers along the way, but there are really very few people who would pull a mass murder. Ten, five, MAYBE. Even Bin Laden if faced with a prospect of pushing a "nuclear button" would think twice, since his family, brothers, cousins, would certainly get punished this time (no free flights out of the US this time) Bottom line, people have conscience. The only person who could pull the mini "12 Monkeys Scenario" is a guy such as Chaney, a sociopath and greedy corporatist, terrorists are not so and believe me, they hate to kill the innocent in masse as any human being does. A single F16 can pull off a "spectacular event" the UK doctor could have only dreamed of, we have 100s of them, they have canisters filled with gasoline for demonstration purposes and a bunch of dressed up militants fighting the soldiers on the Afgani and Iraqi deserts. We invited them through our idiotic actions so there they are. Anything else is done in DC. Just in case, keep your cell phone charged at all times. One day a low resolution video clip can save your ass if not the whole nation.
Gotta love good ole GOP political hacks.
I guess their modus operandi is as follows:
1. obtain control of government
2. run government administered institutions to the ground
3. tell people that they need to use private alternatives because government does such a poor job
Incidentally all of those private alternatives are owned by GOP hacks like themselves.
And most Americans buy that, bunch of morons.
The fact that this idiot is still in charge of Homeland Security after Katrina is beyond words. Then again, to this day most Americans don't even know what the total body count for Katrina is/was, and frankly... they don't care. Yes we are a nation of selfish assholes, and as such we have exactly the government that we deserve.
Sure there will be some noise, some people will act all annoyed, some may even ask "How can this happen in America" blah, blah, blah. And it will back to business as usual first thing monday morning....
They're too busy shoving their heads up their corporate masters asses.
Well, what do ya expect? Bush is a play by the gut kinda guy too. What a way to run a country. I'm beginning to believe these people really are trying to destroy all of our govt institutions, although am not sure for what purpose. Perhaps their long term plan is to replace traditional American democracy with an evil Republican empire where everything is privatized.
Please, Please, Please....whoever takes over January 20, 2009...can we stop referring to the United States of America as "The Homeland"? Please! That phrase made me cringe the first time I heard it and it still does. This isn't Nazi Germany (yet) and this isn't 'der Fatherland'. Can't help it...everytime I hear 'Homeland' I get the feeling death is walking over the grave of America.
First of all, "homeland" for almost all U.S. citizens originally is somewhere else.
Second, ask any American who Chertoff is and the what "Homeland Security" is.
If more than 20%, to be generous, have a clue, it would be a miracle. Don't believe me? Look at these students asking average Americans who Dick Cheney is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97ebpOJadtY&mode=related&search=
If they don't know Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice, how are they going to know Chertoff?
To Citizen Joe, post 13 and site monitor...
In this case, a bit of conspiracy could be appropriate. maybe not 9-11 conspiracy, but about a possibly planned attack coming up soon. From what these guys are saying, anyone could get the idea that they are planting the seeds in our brains, getting us ready...
Maybe not even an attack, but a bogus stopped attack might give them a boost...
...ahh who are we kidding. I used to think some kind of super conspiracy was possible, but after seeing how bad Bush and Co. screw up everything.... I mean EVERYTHING, there's just no way they could pull off anything without stumbling and bumbling over themselves like the keystone kops they are...
Go figure... maybe that's their angle.
Looking stupid
I have a gut feeling terrorism is good for business, IF you know the right people to win those government bids:
http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/191139
I like summer too!
(Don't tell anyone.)
I'm glad Keith O. pointed out that naming it the "Dept. of Homeland Security" was a creepy choice of language. It's always rubbed me the wrong way.
How about the fact that the "conservatives" (lol) built the biggest bureaucratic taxpayer money-sucking do-nothing entity in history: the Department of Homeland Security? Someone just YESTERDAY opened up a fake company, and got a license to acquire the material to make a dirty bomb!
And how much $$$ is this "conservative" "big government" agency sucking out of our taxes???
The Republicans are "self-proclaimed" conservatives, and NOT conservatives.
Spying and wiretapping = BIG GOVERNMENT
Homeland Security = BIG GOVERNMENT
50% federal taxes for war profiteers = BIG GOVERNMENT
Pissing on the constitution = BIG GOVERNMENT
Does anyone else here get the CNN news alerts in their e-mail? Yesterday, I received the following:
"-- Al Qaeda is stepping up efforts to sneak terrorists into the U.S.
and has rebuilt most of its capability to strike here, an intelligence
estimate states, according to The Associated Press."
How is this CNN e-mail any different than Chertoff? This is irresponsible journalism, and it amount to nothing more than, "BOO!"
Didn't have to worry about gut feelings and terror alerts 'till the fascists took over. Since 9/11 we'll know next time. They tell US for maximum effect. What is it with the bush administration? They remind me of some great gay parties I've attended where the women are butchier than the men. ...Sara Taylor and Michael Chertoff come to mind. Abu Gonzalass too.
mojopo : How about ABC New Briefs on AM radio? They are the same thing. And always coordinated with Paul Harvey, who is employed by ABC News Radio. The biased "News Briefs", it looks like CNN does the same thing.
ABC Radio News Briefs last week said, "Democrats are hypocrites because Clinton pardonned people", when Bush pardonned Libby. That is not news, that's opinion! And ABC News Briefs always have a trumped up scarey terrorist threat, too!
Corporations took over our government and our media.
I love the disgust with which Olbermann says "the homeland." Perfect reading, there.
Do America a favor and kick AIPAC the hell off our shores. Do not let them back in until they register as a foreign lobby. Do not vote for any representative that is caught in AIPAC's web of corruption and deceit. Aren't you sick of watching AIPAC dictate what goes on in congress and which representatives will become your "elected" officials? Arent you sick of AIPAC shoving America into more conflict and pushing their agenda while forming US foreign policy?
Keith left out another possiblility: A "galvanizing event like Pearl Harbor". either a permitted act or a false flag operation whose only purpose is to scare the American people into accepting further consolidation of the current, nascient police state. If there was a legitimate threat and if the state intelligence/security apparatus in fact did have bonafide knowledge of a planned attack, it is insane to think that thwarting that attack, by any means available, would become the national priority of the day. All other national business would take a distant back seat. If they knew of a threat, they would also know of the how's and the who's behind the plot. Given our prior examples, we would unhesitatingly violate any other nation's sovereignty to visit our wrath upon the conspiring parties. There would be no talking about it, no telegraphing of intent. The forces would be marshalled, and the hammer would strike. We would only find out about it after the fact. And believe me we would, as desparate as is the "administration" for good news (not to mention how good it would be for their campaign of fear mongering).
So, as in the past, we are warned of imminent terrorist activity upon the Fatherland, er.. homeland. But, where's the SITREP or after action report? A known plot but no action nullify the threat? Come on! It doesn't wash. The implications are all dark. The obvious questions to ask would then be: Were such a thing to be plotted, and the plot to be known, what could possibly be the motive for not diverting all available national resources into eliminating the threat at its source? And, what could be gained, and by whom, for letting such an act be carried out? If such a thing were known, and not acted upon, the only reason that such dereliction of duty would even be contemplated is that certain American parties would be expecting to derive some kind of benefit and expedient from the act. Such a terrorist threat could only be executed because it was deliberately allowed to be carried out, either through ommission or because the act was a false flag operation excuted by those in government whose agenda would be furthered by such an act. In that regard, Skeletor's rantings about "gut" feelings would amount to pre-spin of the event in order to pre-condition the public into accepting whatever further destruction of Freedoms, Liberties and Human Rights the Bush regime would inevitably attempt to wreak upon this sorely abused Nation and its People.
Tinhat? I hope so. But we are dealing with neocons. They have no conscience and they are playing for keeps.
do you think chertoff is a steven colbert fan?
Maybe off topic, but Chertoff looks ghastly.
Is he ill?
It seems like people are starting to wake up more and more. Carl Schmitt was Hitler's lawyer. He gave a grant to Leo Strauss to start his career and fathered Neo Conservatism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTahsktwhwc
These cheneybushsluts are masters of pathological projection, Karl RoverGoebbels having perfected this supreme art of accusing the oppostion ( "enemy") of doing/preparing the very same crimes as they-themselves (cheneybushsluts) are inflicting or preparing to inflict.
Therefore, to be entirely consistent in this art of pathological projection, the logical conclusion is that "the Evil Ones" who perpetrated 911 are in fact our very own cheneybushsluts...which includes this chertoff Frankenstein Monster.
Be very afraid: whatever is roiling around in chertoff's gut is already being implemented by cheney's sociopathic brain.
theWalrus @ 4:
Well, at least Chertoff HAS a gut - [deleted]
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Pechorin @ 25:
And it is Americans who are dooming it.
good news! there's no terrorist threat, it was just a little gas from some meatloaf he ate late last night. There, now stop being afraid until we get a scary color code alert thingy from the feds.
Man, I can't wait for Monday's Colbert Report to see what his gut has to say about Chertoff's gut.
If Michael Chertoff has a gut, than the anorexia scare is officially over.
Gut feeling...huh... Maybe he just needs a tums....
I'm just going to leave the real ranting to others...He's catching a lot of well deserved hell from them. I got no use for Chertoff any more than I got use for any of the other criminals in this administration...
P.S.... K.O. still rocks the house.. Maybe along with a couple of satirists we all know, might just be the last honest commentators left in the American news industry...........I still kinda like Brian Williams... Sometimes...........JD
How is it that Olbermann seems to be the only journalist left in America who gives a damn about the Constitution?
"Al Qaeda seems to like summer" They just feel so festive! They paint each others nails, eat cantaloupe in the park. Come on, Stephen Colbert's Threatdown is more credible and based in reality.
[...] Amen, Keith. And thanks, C&L [...]
L.A. Confidential @ 7:
The Executive branch is more a noir state than a rouge one, in my opinion. Although the rouge states are what voted him in. (I should note that I'm from a bleu city, so I'm a bit biased.)
These are mere words and not a lot of action.
Eventually, Chertoff and his agendas will progress. It is we the people like "animal farm" will revolt and only to get killed.
We MUST attack Skeletors indigestion NOW so we won't have to later!!
Scooternotlibby @ 91:
That's just it, though... the Bush Assministration never met a reality it wasn't willing to supplant with a well-spun load of gut-derived by-products
Bush will ban the constitution and will fashion a communist manifesto..
U.S. dollars will be worthless soon and will leave the citizens penniless. Euro-dollars will take over the world.
How about tackling this issue first to survive?
Peter Eng @ 93:
You can do my nails, and I'll do your hair, and can I borrow your lip rouge?
I'm hoping that, when Stewart gets back from vacation, he'll splice together Chertoff's 'talking gut' with some footage of Orson Welles, the corrupt police detective from 'Touch of Evil' talking about how he knows who the real crooks are when he gets a 'twinge from my game leg.'
All this talk about impeachment, taking back America by force, etc, etc... it's a losing battle. America has the most ignorant populace of any country in the world, in the history of the world. Dictators throughout history have not had the brain dead environment we now have in America right now and as a result, we are now wiretapped, our emails read, our phone calls listened in to, our purchasing history scrutinized, by whom, the people we elected (and 28% still support them wholeheartedly).........or rather the people who believe that the rapture is going to happen in next couple of years (so fuck the enviroment and any long term endeavor, like, say GLOBAL WARMING!!!!.......these are the people who are most motivated to go to the polls to vote for idiots like Bush who they see as a "Christian" instead of the "leader of the free world". It scares the hell out of me, but the people I work with and live around don't seem to think it's any big deal....they still get 300 channels of shit on their TV's and they don't have to pay but $5 for their "bars 'n stars" t shirts and they can get credit to buy the 200K house they can't afford..... while our president tells them to spend, spend (it stimulates the economy).....yeah, it really stimulates the foreclosure companies...... the real battle isn't against an administration that flaunts the rule of law, or Supreme Court Justices that rule on their ideology, or our Justice Dept doing the bidding of the Executive Branch, it against the igonrance of the average American and their desire to put Paris Hilton's hair weaves above their constitutional rights. When you can walk into any town in this country and find 1 in 10 (and the one for the most part are high school students) can even pick out Iraq or Afghanistan on a fucking map......we're fucked, we're toast.......we're modern day ROME!!!
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