Habeas Bill Voting Tomorrow

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(P)lease make some calls on the Habeas Restoration amendment today [..]. (S.185 has morphed into S.2022 as a potential amendment to the defense bill currently under debate.) I am told through the Congressional grapevine that a vote on the amendment is likely for Tuesday - that's tomorrow! - and that pressure needs to especially be applied to the following Senators: Lieberman, Ben Nelson, Hagel, Lugar, Craig, Collins, and Alexander.

Please, call your own Senators and voice your support for the restoration of habeas rights and respect for the Constitution and the rule of law. And throw in an extra call or two for the Senators on the waffling list above. For why this is important - and why it needs our support now - read here. And here.

Christy has phone numbers to reach the Senate. Bob clarifies the confusion about the bill numbers and why it's critical to get the Senators on record as supporting or sponsoring the bill(s).

UPDATE: It looks like the calls made to Reid are having an impact. He's just announced that he will file a cloture motion on the Reed-Levin redeployment bill. This should tell you that your voice CAN make a difference. Please call the Senators and ask them to sign on to the Habeas Restoration Act. There's less than 24 hours left before the vote.

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Libertista! ;)

Sure, I'll do it, for the fun of watching it pass the Congress and be vetoed by the president.

This whole entire process won't be a gigantic waste of time, not at all. Just as the redeployment bill wasn't. Or the minimum wage bill.

This bill has the same chance of ultimate success as did the others:

None.

I'll try but I have a feeling the veto pen is being warmed up, just in case.

God, could you have even imagined six years ago that something like this would be being voted on in our country?

Okay lets review the accomplishments of the Bushies

This administration and its cheerleaders in the noise machine have questioned the patriotism of anyone who did not blindly accept nearly every aspect of its so called "war on terror." Michelle Malkin says that we are ostriches putting our heads in the sand, pretending that their is no terrorist threat. In 2004, Neil Boortz openly wondered who was more dangerous: al Qaeda or John Kerry voters. Karl Rove has told us that Democrats want to appease terrorists. Ann Coulter has said that "liberals" are treasonous by nature, and Dinesh D'Souza has called "the cultural left" the "enemy at home." Rush Limbaugh has declared that Democrats are at war with America. Bill O'Reilly says that the "s-p" media wants us to lose in Iraq, and Malkin and co. have accused at one point or another pretty much every non-noise machine agent of the media to by guilty of treason.

That's not all Reid is up to, read the most recent post at Kos. Wow!

The lines have been drawn, who's side are you on?

OF COURSE Bush is going to veto. What do you want them to do, nothing? Hit them with the bill, make the Thugs filibuster or cave, make Bush veto a bill saving the troops' very lives and sanity, MAKE THEM OWN IT.

Then rinse, and repeat. as often as it takes. My guess, more than one go-round and the Thugs will be begging for impeachment to get them off the hook.

sh@dow @ 3:

Nothing matters with PDO51 in the wings!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html

PDO51 makes impeachment essential.

pissed off patricia @ 5:

I'll try but I have a feeling the veto pen is being warmed up, just in case.

God, could you have even imagined six years ago that something like this would be being voted on in our country?

That's why the amendment is being attached to the defense bill. They are trying to put the Pretzelnit in the position of vetoing money for the troops.

Good politics.

pissed off patricia @ 5:

I'll try but I have a feeling the veto pen is being warmed up, just in case.
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Yes, a veto is more than likely but remember - this political war is one of 1000 small paper cuts. Overwhelming democratic majority in 2008 is the goal. And please spare me the "there's no difference between repugs and dems" diatribe.

Oops sorry, I just totally missed your update, Nicole. I don't know how that bee got in Reid's bonnet but I like the results.

George W. Bush is the reason that the founding fathers put impeachment in the Constitution.

The question isn't who is angry and why, but who isn't angry, and why the hell aren't they?

I don't even have a "there's no difference between repugs and dems, diatribe, PNAAC minister. I believe there is a difference.

"Habeas Restoration". In the US of A. Six years ago, anyone who suggested a possibility of this happening in this country would have been locked up in an insane asylum.

In a just society, there would have been be no need for this stupidity. The people who negated the rule of Habeas Corpus in the first place would have been charged with human rights abuses and tried in a court of law.

In a just society. Apparently, in Bush country, the Democrats and the Republicans will do whatever it takes to cover each other's asses and the stupid population will applaud every cover-up as if it were a return to the rule of law.

Say what you will about Bush but the truth is, we already have a government we truly deserve. We deserve no better.

Sorry POP, I should've directed that list bit towards others.

LA:

You're right, but we know the answer to that, don't we?

pissed off patricia @ 7:

That's not all Reid is up to, read the most recent post at Kos. Wow!

Yeah, amazing how many people can completely misunderstand reality. Don't they even read the stories over there?

All Reid is doing is threatening the Republicans with an all-night session. He IS NOT forcing the Republicans into actually filibustering.

Reid and Pelosi are of the old school where Congressmen are supposed to be cordial and work with both sides to pass legislation. But the Repugs don't work that way. They will continue to vote down cloture votes, and Reid will simply let them instead of keeping the debates open until the Republicans fall on their asses.

Reid is a weak and ineffective majority leader and should be replaced with someone who will force the Republicans into open combat. The issues are too important to let them get away with this lazy-man's version of the filibuster. If they want to debate forever, let them. But don't close down the Senate, keep it open until the Senators are carried out one by one on stretchers. If they won't vote for cloture, then they have to stay in session forever. Eventually, the old white men of the Republican Party will invoke cloture in order to be get out of there and meet up with their escorts.

Reid is playing his part, just as all corporate whore politicians do.

This is all political theatre, folks. Haven't you learned anything from the 2004 election?

WE ARE POWERLESS.

The people responsible for this ever having happened should be locked up in an insane asylum, Abby. Why didn't the American people raise hell when it happened? Did they not understand what it meant? Are they so damned scared that they just closed their eyes to what was happening? When something like this was allowed to happen in our country, I would say the terrorist definately won a lot!

Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 19:

Reid is playing his part, just as all corporate whore politicians do.

This is all political theatre, folks. Haven't you learned anything from the 2004 election?

WE ARE POWERLESS.

Ahhh, there it is - the infamous call to inaction.

Yeah, PNAAC Minister, keep those cards and letters comin'.

Our selected officials need comic relief, too.

I know. I know. But you see I have this death grip on hope and I just won't let go of it yet. I have to have something to hold on to or else I think I'll just curl up in the fetal position. If I give up hope, what's left.

I just called my Senator Collins office and asked that she please vote to restore Habeas. The woman answering calls did not know how Collins is set to vote, but she would be pleased to pass along my message.

If she doesn't vote for this, Tom Allen, D will be our new Senator.

"There is but one thing of true value; to cultivate truth and justice, and to live without anger in the midst of lying and unjust men." - Marcus Aurelius

Maybe he has a point

pissed off patricia @ 23:

I know. I know. But you see I have this death grip on hope and I just won't let go of it yet. I have to have something to hold on to or else I think I'll just curl up in the fetal position. If I give up hope, what's left.

Reality.

Oh yeah, I can totally see croaky-Joe signing on to this.

pissed off patricia @ 20:

The people responsible for this ever having happened should be locked up in an insane asylum, Abby. Why didn't the American people raise hell when it happened? Did they not understand what it meant? Are they so damned scared that they just closed their eyes to what was happening? When something like this was allowed to happen in our country, I would say the terrorist definately won a lot!

It's actually all of the above, POP. The Administration played the fear card, and it worked. The other issue is also that the American People really are sheep. Over the last 15 - 20 years they had become so detached from their government, so indifferent, just so IGNORANT, that they were ripe for the types of abuses going on.

Loonie @ 28:

Oh yeah, I can totally see croaky-Joe signing on to this.

I thought that "pressure applied" sentence must've been a typo - surely nobody would joke about it?

pissed off patricia @ 15:

I don't even have a "there's no difference between repugs and dems, diatribe, PNAAC minister. I believe there is a difference.

Back in 2000 I thought the only real difference was the Vendors who would get the government contracts, bid or no-bid as patronage for past and future support.
Well I was right about that but wrong on just about everything else.
These creeps running the White House are for all practical purposes,a criminal enterprise.

Don't bring it back save it for when we have a Dem. president and use it to arrest all top Rep.!

Liberal AND Proud @ 11:

That's why the amendment is being attached to the defense bill. They are trying to put the Pretzelnit in the position of vetoing money for the troops.

Good politics.

This assumes that the GOP will not block with a filibuster the Amendment; Potus has no reason to veto a bill that does not have the Amendment. Again if this is "not possible" (that the bill will not have the offending language, and POTUS cannot sign it), DNC needs to explain why these solutions were not applied to the original bill and similarly blocked. Anything the GOP is doing to block bills-Amendments needs to be asked of the DNC: why didn't you did this with the original bill?

I wonder if the NEO Cons are going to try and scare us tomorrow. They always pull a stunt durring votes as crucial as this. Have you ever wonder why Al Qeada always comes out with a "new" tape when Bush and the administration is really in trouble? I wonder if Al Qeada is being controlled as CIA assest through Pakistani ISI...... Just a thaught.

Sung to the tune of Richard Wagner’s - Ride of the Valkyries

The Opening cry
Hoyo to ho, hoyo to ho,
Hoy ho, Hoy ho
Hoyo to ho,
Bush’s gotta go
Hoy ho, hoy ho
Thr-ow the bums ouuuut
Thr-ow the bums ouuuut
Right on their pig snouuuuts
Right on their pig snouuuuts
Hoooooooooooooo, ho YEAH, ho
Ooooh I wish it so.

The ride
It’s time to impeach Bush
Time to impeach Bush
Time to impeach Bush
Restore rule of law

If we don’t impeach them
They’ll continue their mayhem
Freeing Scooter Libby
Was the last straw

How much can we take?
It’s time to awake
Before our dear country’s
Forever destroyed

Let’s all take a stand
Constitution in hand
Remind all our leaders
They’re in OUR employ!

Dick Cheney will cover
All his dark secrets
Till he is forced
From under his rock

The media’s sleeping
War moms are weeping
The liars keep creeping
Time to take stock

We must do this now
Or forever be cowed
The will of the people
Held in contempt

The Founders will spin
If the fascists win
The US republic
Misused, abused and verklempt!

okay, but what's this about s.576? Chris Dodd's stronger bill? it's not only to restore habeas, but undermine the Miltary Commissions Act altogether, right?

i'm sorry- i have trouble trusting anything introduced by senator spector, signed immediately by lieberman and chuck hagel, who voted w/ bush more than any other senator in 2006, and other "distancing self from boosch" GrOuPies...

kinda reminds me of mccain and the MCA, authoring the torture bill as a "validating" torture victim. because he was a POW, we were supposed to trust that he would never legislate torture, so his "protest" seemed legit, when in fact he went right along with the admin...

Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 22:

Yeah, PNAAC Minister, keep those cards and letters comin'.

Our selected officials need comic relief, too.

Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 19:

Reid is playing his part, just as all corporate whore politicians do.

This is all political theatre, folks. Haven't you learned anything from the 2004 election?

WE ARE POWERLESS.

Posts like this, I would be tempted to ban, were I unfortunate enough to have to monitor this site. This post offers no solutions, asks no questions, raises no issues and is not funny (at least not intentionally) but merely states that we are all doomed and should give up.

One of the greatest victories of conservative politicians is convincing the disenfranchised that their vote does not matter. This is one reason why there are millions of ignorant or disaffected voters who would reap substantial benefits from a more liberal government but instead fail to vote. This is one reason why the US typically has among the lowest voter turn out in the developed world.

I followed the link for S2022, and scanned the headings of the bill. Presidential signing statements on page S8878 caught my attention. Read what it says about Iran and ballistic missles under section 1218.

Pump up the paranoia, people! With all the threats posed by the Bush Team, you can't have too much!

Domas @ 40:

I followed the link for S2022, and scanned the headings of the bill. Presidential signing statements on page S8878 caught my attention. Read what it says about Iran and ballistic missles under section 1218.

SEC. 1218. POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES ON PROTECTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND ITS ALLIES AGAINST IRANIAN BALLISTIC MISSILES.

(a) Finding.--Congress finds that Iran maintains a nuclear program in continued defiance of the international community while developing ballistic missiles of increasing sophistication and range that pose a threat to both the United States and its North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) allies.

(b) Policy of the United States.--It is the policy of the United States--

(1) to develop and deploy, as soon as technologically possible, an effective defense against the threat from Iran described in subsection (a)(1) that will provide enhanced protection for the United States, its friends, and its North Atlantic Treaty Organization allies; and

(2) to proceed in the development of such response in a manner such that the missile defenses fielded by the United States in Europe are complementary to missile defense capabilities that might be fielded by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in Europe.

hm...

37 trez

Haven't you got the meme yet? We can't say ho no mo.

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