Worst!

Frist

Not sure how 544 days are more then two years, but otherwise...give em hell!

more=less???? Comeon guys. He has "less than two years in office".

how low is Congress?

Even if he had just one day left, wouldn't it still seem like at least two years?

Just sayin'...

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid need to have a sit down with Mr. Fein and hear him out. I watched that special and it left no doubts in my mind what MUST happen, and soon.

If Bush was a car he would be the Edsel.

phlounder @ 13:

If Bush was a car he would be the Edsel.

How dare you shame the memory of the Edsel like that.

Sorry - I forgot to add:

Torture? Extraordinary rendition? Gulags? No due process or habeas corpus?

For the first time in my life, I'm ashamed to be an american.

I was disappointed that Olbermann let Fein completely dismiss the LIES which took us into an attack on Iraq . . .
and the Downing Street Documents should have been mentioned in regard to "fixing" the intelligence --
I did see him on Bill Moyers and I don't recall how he handled that part of it at that time.
However, of course, overall he is correct that Bush should be impeached -- and I think on Moyers they were saying BOTH Cheney/Bush should be impeached?

[Edited tag. Please don't post in all bold. Thanks-Sitemonitor]

EconAtheist @ 15:

phlounder @ 13:

If Bush was a car he would be the Edsel.

How dare you shame the memory of the Edsel like that.

Sorry, you're right (head hanging).
The Edsel was way more popular than President GWChimp.

Anyone who voted for this retard in 2004 needs to have their voting rights rescinded. Couldn't you just have stayed home and not voted instead of helping keep this asshole in power?

You share responsibility for every death in Iraq, you idiots.

GOSH! Why would this megalomaniacal mesianic little punk who uses our constitution for toilet paper be unpopular with the 'murican people? Why would this torture approving un-caring no-empathy little rat who fronts a "crime family" from our White House be thusly so unpopular ? What happened to all the standing O's for this outstanding creep! Where are all the bloated SUV's with W stickers I used to see? Dang, that is a tough one!

Hey-up, StrawBB - I don't know if I'd give my left boob (I don't have enough to sacrifice as it is), but I'd certainly would like to have the Congress we had with Nixon or Truman or Nixon. As happy as I am that the rubberstamping Republicans are in the minority now, I can't say as I've been overly impressed with the sets of cajones the present Democratic majority have been exhibiting lately, either. A balance of power is desirable, and right now, we've got a few pebbles on one side trying to balance out the millstone on the other. Guess who's still winning...

Something from about 2 years ago, Bush Limbo Party

Thing Fish @ 22:

When was that low point for Truman? I thought at first it would be over MacArthur. But if that point was over giving up control over consumer prices, then including him with Nixon and Bush is not fair.

Wish I could tell ya exactly. HST had a 36% approval ratin' in the Spring of '48, and only a 22% approval ratin' in early '52. MacArthur was canned in April of '51. My guess is that it's a reference to HST's '52 numbers, but I haven't found the disapproval numbers yet.

544 days? We won't have much of a Constitution left by then. Habeas corpus is gone ... with Bush's recent executive order stating he can seize the property of those he believes are detrimental to the war in Iraq, there goes our Fourth Amendment down the toilet ... with his "executive privilege" gambit and his directive to Justice NOT to pursue contempt charges against presidential employees the legislative branch is effectively neutered ...

Sorry, but this country we love won't be the same place in 544 days. And unless "we the people" stand up and speak up, write and call our congressmen demanding that impeachment proceedings begin and begin NOW, we might as well scrap the Constitution altogether.

[...] you missed Olbermann tonight, you can catch highlights at Crooks and Liars. Click here for conservative Republican & former Reagan Deputy AG Bruce Fein talking about why Bush must [...]

Never has such a president nor such an administration put Godwin's Law to such stress. They've even raised the benchmark.

Dubya and Cheney restored dignity, ethics, and morals to the White House.

HAHA

Andy K - it's 14:40 here in Auckland. I'm almost completely 12 hours difference from the UK, so I've changed time slots, so to speak. Also, I've traded the cold wet floodwaters of the British summer for a relatively mild, sunny winter in NZ. Everything is upside down now. (A bit literally; Orion apparently only shows up in the southern constellations upside down, unnerving that.)

Roket @ 40:

Does impeachment smell like peaches? If so, I smell peaches. Lots of them.

Millions of impeachments, impeachments for free...

Wes @ 42:

Impeach for the children.

Good LORD! Why didn't we think of that before-I mean "It's for the kids" has been the key that's unlocked many a bullshit door.

"Impeachment:

It's for the kids"

Spread it far and wide....

phlounder @ 13:

If Bush was a car he would be the Edsel.

Better yet, a Yugo or Trabant since most of them are in the junkyard. Edsels are actually valuable today. George of the Bungle will never be worth anything, ever, and will join his washed up automotive counterparts in the junkyard of history.

Sorry to be the wet blanket, but the impeachment run has been left a bit late. Its like closing the barn doors after the horse has bolted.

What can be done is that we can start to clean up the mess left behind & make sure the next president, Rethug or Democrat can't ride roughshod over the Constitution & the country like Bush has.
Then, become a signatory to the ICC & hand Bush & Cheney over to the Hague for war crimes.

PS. Looking at the glass as half full, Bush also takes the most holidays of any president, so he might only be around for 1/2 of those 544 days :)

=my2c
BC

To even suggest that the next President could be a Republican is ludicrous. They have proven themselves to be nothing more than a criminal conspiracy deserving of being investigated under the RICO statutes. That goes for every Republican in the Executive, Congressional and Judicial branches. The chef and staff in the Whitehouse not included.

Josh Marshall is finally calling for impeachment. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/015836.php

Though other events in recent months and years have had graver consequences in themselves, I'm not sure I've seen a more open, casual or brazen display of the attitude that the body of rules which our whole system is built on just don't apply to this White House.

Without going into all the specifics, I think we are now moving into a situation where the White House, on various fronts, is openly ignoring the constitution, acting as though not just the law but the constitution itself, which is the fundamental law from which all the statutes gain their force and legitimacy, doesn't apply to them.

If that is allowed to continue, the defiance will congeal into precedent. And the whole structure of our system of government will be permanently changed.

Whether because of prudence and pragmatism or mere intellectual inertia, I still have the same opinion on the big question: impeachment. But I think we're moving on to dangerous ground right now, more so than some of us realize. And I'm less sure now under these circumstances that operating by rules of 'normal politics' is justifiable or acquits us of our duty to our country.

I absolutely agree with him, 100 percent. Enough is enough. Impeachment is the best remedy for this disastrous administration and the damage it is doing to our republic. It's the only way to get the truth out so the people can truly understand how close we are to the abyss.

Yeah but Harry Truman is Now Loved because we now understand what nuclear war would have meant.

Nixon will always be hated because he was a Crook. Period.

Bush is hated, but not only that, his entire family, and, political party will be hated by the world forever. Just like Hitler.

It's unfortunate that Harry Truman has to share a graphic with The Decider. And as the report notes, Truman only had one 65% disapproval rating while Bush has had three and more.

But let's take this in context. Truman took over from the popular FDR and walked into a real mess with the A-bomb. Then, with millions of GI's coming home, there was a housing shortage and ruinous railroad and coal mining strikes that nearly shut the country down. And, he had to contend with Korea, Joseph McCarthy and the Red Scare.

How did Truman deal with all of these? Head on! He established the International Atomic Energy commission to deal with the nuclear threat.

He pushed to get the GI Bill through congress to help the GI's with housing and education.

He threatened to draft railroad workers and miners into the Army and settled the strike; this was a difficult thing for Truman to do as he had many friends in labor. But he put the interests of the nation ahead of personal beliefs for the good of the country.

He held the line in Korea to show the Russians and Chinese Communists that we were not going to abandon Asia to them. He saved Europe with the Marshall Plan.

And, McCarthy's demagoguery imploded on itself. Truman knew how to spot a phony.

All this caused turmoil in the post-war period. Yet, in retrospect, his accomplishments went far beyond Roosevelt's New Deal. Truman established the United States democracy as the shining jewel the world strove for.

And all that goodwill around the world is now gone thanks to the horrible foreign policy of the Bush neo-cons. For God's sake, give us another man as able and competent as the Missouri farmer Harry S. Truman !

nonny mouse @ 28:

Whoops. Should have been a Reagan in there instead of two Nixons. The mind shudders in horror...

sorry, nonny, I gotta disagree. the raygun congress accepted all the Iran contra lies and memory lapses and had a tacit agreement not to impeach by either side. the memory lapse is now the most convenient and frequently used excuse at congressional hearings. A total farce!

to our detriment, the dems are keeping up their end as if it's some kind of honorable collegial thing to do.

Here's something that will startle the pigeons tomorrow:

A bipartisan group including several prominent conservatives has issued a report calling Bush's warrantless surveillance program illegal.

The Liberty and Security Committee of the Constitution Project said in a statement that the U.S. Congress should finish its probe into the warrantless surveillance program before it heeds the urging of the Bush administration to beef up laws on electronic surveillance.

Those signing the statement included: David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union; Walter Cronkite, former managing editor of CBS Evening News; former Rep. Mickey Edwards, R-Okla., the [former] chairman of the Republican Party Policy Committee; Harold Koh, dean of Yale Law School; and William S. Sessions, former FBI director under Presidents Reagan, Bush and Clinton.

"The NSA's warrantless surveillance program has stood for too long as an affront to America's rule of law," said Keene, a co-chair of the Constitution Project's Liberty and Security Committee. "The American people deserve to know why and to what extent the NSA has been tapping Americans' phones without a warrant."

The committee said the administration's surveillance program "upends separate, balanced powers by thwarting the will of Congress and preventing any opportunity for judicial review.

Regards, C

Andy K @ 31:
Truman himself bemoaned the public selfishness of the early postwar period when arguments between his administration and Republican leaders in the House and Senate, who wanted to lift price controls because of shortages, notably a meat shortage in 1946, persuaded the president to give up the effort to control consumer prices.

I'll add that Carter's numbers, like Truman's, came from telling people what they honestly thought was right. In Carter's case it came from asking America to either tighten its belt or be more self reliant about their energy needs.

SITEOWNERS

Doesn't Congress have 30 days after a Prez signs an Executive Order to issue a resolution to change it?

Why isn't Congress jumping on that July 17 'can't complain about admin's Iraq policies or we'll take your house' EO that should be slapped out of town? The one that Bruce Fein addresses.

Why are no progressive sites jumping on correcting this?

IMPEACH!

One correction to Mr. Fein's fine discussion on what, historically, has happened to the "impeachers": He states that no one lost a seat in the Senate or Congress over impeaching Clinton. I'd have to say that Gingrich and Livingston both lost their jobs as an indirect result of their pursuit of impeachment of Bill Clinton. More to the point, there WAS a Congressman who lost his Congressional seat in California as a direct result of his leading the impeachment process.

Wikipedia says:
In 1996, Rogan was elected as Congressman for the then-27th district, which included Glendale and Pasadena.

Rogan served as one of the House managers in the impeachment trial of then-President Bill Clinton.

In 2000, Rogan was defeated by then-State Senator Adam Schiff in a heavily contested race. It was the most expensive House race in American history..

PRINCIPLES...

Is the unilateral invasion and occupation of a sovereign nation that posed no imminent threat to the U.S. an American Principle?

Is fraudulently selling that invasion based on KNOWN false evidence, to a Joint Session of Congress (01/28/03) an American Principle?

Is indefinite detention of persons suspected and accused but not charged or tried nor found guilty an American Principle?

Is attempting to withhold Habeas Corpus Rights and Due Process from persons suspected and not charged an American Principle?

Is choosing which Treaties and Conventions to follow based on convenience an American Principle?

Is torture an American Principle?

Is warrentless wiretapping of American citizens an American Principle?

Is the rewriting of National Security Letters so as to cover what was otherwise illegally seized an American Principle?

Is the the politicization of the DoJ an American Principle?

Is signing unconstitutional bills into Law an American Principle?

Is usurping the co-equal Branches of our Government via signing statements an American Principle?

Is being involved in the outing a covert CIA agent an American Principle?

THE - NEW - AMERICAN - PRINCIPLES?

They are when good men do nothing that let worse men institute these new principles, setting the groundwork for unAmerican principles to take up root. Even worse is when good men accommodate the worse men and vote to enshrine these new principles into laws, theories, and other principles of being. Egregiously far worse, is when good men continue to do nothing thus codifying these new principles inturn validating these worse men as exceptional men for their wisdom and brilliance at undermining what Real American Principles are.

So Congress,
It is times like this where facades MUST fall. What are your American Principles and how do you comport them into your Duty? You aren't supporting and defending the Constitution of the USA, when you allow and tolerate the usurpations of the Constitution of the U.S.A. and the Constitutional Laws derived from therein.

End this war!

Impeach and Convict those who have perpetrated these crimes against the people.

If certain acts in violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal, conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us.
- Justice Robert Jackson, Chief Prosecutor for the United States, Nuremberg Tribunals, 1947

the 4th Reich is rising @ 66:

nwmuse @ 11:

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid need to have a sit down with Mr. Fein and hear him out. I watched that special and it left no doubts in my mind what MUST happen, and soon.

Just watched the video at Moyer´s site as well. I fully second your post. Until know I thaught impeachment is not the road to take. But Fein convinced me: Pelosi and Reid have to change the course now. IMPEACH!

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07132007/watch.html

A trial lawyer at DKOS recently published a diary titled:

The Impeachment Talking Point that Needs to be Dropped The Impeachment Talking Point that Needs to be Dropped

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/24/94735/2077

The talking point that needs to be dropped is that Nancy Pelosi doesn't have the authority to take impeachment off the table!

The power to impeach resides in the full house membership and any member can introduce a motion to impeach... hence Kucinich's HR 333, the motion to impeach Dick Cheney.

The person who is at the real epicenter of impeachment in the House is the Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Rep. John Conyers.

70 Scott Says: I Except in most elite media circles of course.

That would be like the one's that populate cruis ships...

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americ...icle2766040.ece

Ship of fools: Johann Hari sets sail with America's swashbuckling neocons

The Iraq war has been an amazing success, global warming is just a myth – and as for Guantanamo Bay, it's practically a holiday camp... The annual cruise organised by the 'National Review', mouthpiece of right-wing America, is a parallel universe populated by straight-talking, gun-toting, God-fearing Republicans.

By Johann Hari
Published: 13 July 2007

And for some contextual background, read

http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0703a.asp
Why Germans Supported Hitler

It has long intrigued me why the German people supported Adolf Hitler and his Nazi regime. After all, every schoolchild in America is taught that Hitler and his Nazi cohorts were the very epitome of evil. How could ordinary German citizens support people who were so obviously monstrous in nature?

After all, it’s one thing to look at Nazi Germany retrospectively and from the vantage point of an outside citizen who has heard since childhood about the death camps and of Hitler’s monstrous nature. We look at those grainy films of Hitler delivering his bombastic speeches and our automatic reaction is that we would have never supported the man and his political party. But it’s quite another thing to place one’s self in the shoes of an ordinary German citizen and ask, “What would I have done?”

By Jacob G. Hornberger

The 65% disaproval records as indicated on BUSH is SIGNIFICANT; when we consider the fact that the Population of this nation and the population of voters has significantly GROWN, since Truman and NIXON were president.

IMPEACHMENT must go forward. We can not allow the expanded power of the president today be handed to the NEXT U.S. President. IMPEACHMENT must be done, to illigitimize and undo the expansion of presidential power. Otherwise, the separation of power and the check and balance between the THREE BRANCHES of government will no longer exist. For the good of this nation and our AMERICAN DEMOCRACY as WE know it; IMPEACHMENT must proceed without anymore further delay. Our Constitution must NOT be compromised under any circumstances, political or otherwise.

You liberals better watch, I can see a little bombing happen soon. Don't get cheney or bush mad...they did it once before if ya can remember 9/11.

My fear is the Dems will tip-toe for too long and Bush will be out of office before they can bring him and his henchmen to account.

I urge you to go to this poll at DKos-the results could be of interest to congressional lurkers there. Conyers posts frequently at DKos.

If Bush was a car he would be the Edsel.

No, Bush is the peevish drunk driving the Edsel. When you tell him to stop, he gets all pissy and stomps on the gas.

Bush is cancer.
Impeachment's the answer.

Remember, kids: Impeachment is healthy, educational, and gosh darn it, impeachment's just plain fun!!

While the Democrats excuse themselves from pursuing impeachment by claiming they have more important issues to tackle, such as trying to end the Iraq War. I say, what could be more important than upholding the law and protecting our Constitution. Besides which, wouldn't they be in a better place to address the other issues if they reigned in Bush and Cheney?

I ROFLed at the part where KO (4:20 into clip) points out that the World Nut Daily wrote an article bashing Bush over the Executive Order seizing assets for those who go against Iraq policy. Knuckledragging conservatives will only pay attention when you hit them where it hurts: the pocketbook.

What are they waiting for...Bush's approval rating to equal his IQ?!?!

NeoConASS @ 79:

You liberals better watch, I can see a little bombing happen soon. Don't get cheney or bush mad...they did it once before if ya can remember 9/11.

Is that a threat?

BC @ 86:

tbhull @ 52:

Screw the Hague today. Our Constitution spells out what Congress needs to do, we, through Congress must do it. We can bring justice to our own.

Well, normally I'd agree but so far, it hasn't happened with all the various checks & balances in place. The world distrusts the U.S. its actions & motives. The U.S. is less & less being seen as a good global citizen. All the positive capital that has been built up over the past 50 years has been squandered. The self appointed World Policeman who involves itself in everyone else's problems also should be up to international scrutiny.
Sending Bush & Cheney to the Hague would be a great peace offering to the world to show that the U.S is prepared to clean up its appalling act of the last 6 years.

=my2c
BC

The Hague can wait. The Hague WILL wait for we determine what we do with our own, not the world.

Liberal AND Proud @ 93:

NeoConASS @ 79:

You liberals better watch, I can see a little bombing happen soon. Don't get cheney or bush mad...they did it once before if ya can remember 9/11.

Is that a threat?

No, but I believe Dick Cheney was behind it, he brought about the end days and soon the Rapture. He may have committed an evil act but he just wants to bring our precious lord back. I hope you are ready for his judgment.

Rasputin @ 98:

Max-1 @ 84:

Rasputin @ 82:

Max-1 @ 75:

I hate to ad homonym, however, isn't Kerry married into the Heinz clan?

Technically it isn't an ad hominen attack because:

1. You're not attacking the author and disregarding the basis of his argument.
2. You're making a statement of fact, Kerry is indeed married into the Heinz family
3. Your not being abusive.
4. Kerry ran for President, but never advocated dismantling the checks and balances of our government... in fact just the opposite. Bush on the other hand has virtually succeeded in becoming a dictator and has committed the most worst separation of powers violation in the history of the US.

Ad Hominem:
An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the person", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. It is most commonly used to refer specifically to the ad hominem abusive, or argumentum ad personam, which consists of criticizing or personally attacking an argument's proponent in an attempt to discredit that argument.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

In the past it was commonly known in the Bloggosphere that Bush's grandfather's company did a great deal of business with the Third Reich. What was not known was that he actually tried, as these researchers claim, tried to mount a military coup against FDR. If correct, treason would seem to be a family tradition.

Excerpt from the BBC:

The award-winning investigative series returns, in which Mike Thomson takes a document as a starting-point to shed new light on past events.

The Whitehouse Coup

Monday 23 July 2007

The White House behind security bars:
Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by a group of right-wing American businessmen

The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known about this biggest ever peacetime threat to American democracy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document.shtml

PS. I like the links you provided. This page from one of the sites provided is very revealing of Bush and Cheney's tactics:

How Hitler Became a Dictator
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0403a.asp

How dare you expose the great Prescott BUSH! He is the grandfather of the greatest president ever. Oh dear it would have been great if he would have succeeded.

boosh is not only so unpopular he can't get laid,

but

so many people hate his guts he couldn't even get vivisected.

so

if bush is impeached
who takes his place? Cheney

ok now you all dont like him either so now youll have to impeach him too

oh ok now what do we do:we let pilosi run the country!

now that is your mind at work

pfftt

earth to humans earth to humans

they all suck
they are all greedy
picking the lesser of two evils will get you
oh yeah! evil!

WAKE UP

none of them are worthy of us

MAKE THEM WORTHY OF YOU AND ME

I don't think this fact is all that sad. The saddest fact is that these creeps are in power in the first place. What would be sadder still would be if they weren't this unpopular.

This is even better - C&L didn't include this from my note re:WaPo article. VERY interesting numbers, lots of details

American Research Group, Inc. has an overall Bush disapproval rating of 71% on July 23.
http://americanresearchgroup.com/

What is John Conyers waiting for, dammit????

Ooh, quick media someone please announce that a terror suspect has been caught, or a terror in the making is foiled, or a suspicious bag found in public area, or ....

Ah, news flash, just in 'California airport is evacuated for suspicious bag."

Such a standard ploy to overcome the negative news, and it works everytime.

"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark;
the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light" – Plato

ysbaddaden @ 112:

So what's new on the Lindsay Lohan front?

She's talking to Laura Bush about DUI stuff.

I really can't believe this...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hi.....ment.shtml

The deed is done. IMPEACHMENT ain't gonna' happen.

In order to IMPEACH Bush/Cheney, Congress needs to build a case to charge them.

In order to build a case to charge Bush/Cheney, Congress needs to gather evidence in the form of documenation and/or sworn testimony from administration insiders.

In order to gather that documentation/testimony, Congress needs to issue subpoenas.

In order for Congress to force compliance with those subpoenas from people who are in contempt of Congress by refusing to comply with their subpoenas ("Top Secret" at a time of war, you know...), the U.S. Attorney General's office needs to prosecute a case against them as such.

Since the U.S. Attorney's office is now staffed with Loyal Bushies who have already demonstrated their Loyal Bushiness thoroughly enough to keep their jobs, this isn't going to happen.

The Democrats in Congress KNOW it isn't going to happen.

In the end, the GOP will spin it that the Dems' effort to IMPEACH Bush/Cheney and their failure to do so (because of the GOP/Loyal Bushie Department of Justice obstruction) is just another example of a "do nothing Congress".

The terrorists won a big victory on 9/11, although under most administrations of our past, they never would have. It is Bush/Cheney who have seen to it that they won that big victory because they have been able to exploit that attack for their own political advantage in unprededented fashion.

GET OVER the IMPEACHMENT obsession. There will be sweeter victories for true Americans down the road anyway.