The Courage Campaign Targets Blackwater in California
By Nicole Belle Tuesday Sep 18, 2007 6:15pm
Blackwater was a ticking timebomb ready to explode. Unfortunately, it appears that civilians had to die for somebody to take action against this shadowy Iraq security contractor.
Just a few days ago, Blackwater security guards fired at and killed somewhere between eight and thirteen civilians. And this time the Blackwater boys were not protecting supplies. They were protecting the American government. That's right. Blackwater killed Iraqi civilians while careening through Baghdad in a convoy of black SUVs containing US embassy officials. The Iraq army tried to disarm them. It took the US military intervening to get both sides to step back.
The Iraqi government wants to prosecute, but the U.S. granted blanket immunity to contractors prior to the establishment of the government. They may not have the legal authority to prosecute, but with your help, we can get the legal authority to keep them out of California.
Please go sign their petition here...the last thing we need is a giant Blackwater facility here.
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This will come back to haunt us.....
Blackwater has said in a statement that every single person they shot was an armed insurgent.
Yay!
They will have to wait in line Psammy. We will be jumped by so many so soon when our economy fails it will be like a third world country here.
Cythraul @ 2:
What is so frustrating is that this is nothing new. Just like the dozens of other massacres and slaughters in Iraq, the US will silence their Iraqi puppets (after the obligatory joint 'investigation') and the whole thing will blow over. Of course the compliant media will obey and bend over just like they have in every other military story. We will never get past the cliche that these are "heroic warriors, patriots, and freedom fighters". So what if thousands and thousands of small Iraqi babies, teen girls, and boy toddlers have been vaporized and burned alive.
I dont think the WH is too unhappy about this. Now is perfect timing for BW and others like them to come home and prepare for the suspension of the 2008 election.
Doggiebobo @ 4:
Kald @ 6:
Don't think you'll have toooo many of the Blackwater mercenaries volunteering to "come
home" inasmuch as they are making(I read somewhere earlier today) $950 per day while
in a combat zone within Iraq....coming back home will result in a HUGE decline in their
salaries.
Cythraul @ 7:
How about not just out of California, but make it not exist period?
The mafia like organization already operates in the form of the US government. This would legitimize their muscle.
Cythraul @ 2:
Oh Good!!! I was worried there for a minute.
BLACKWATER, AKA BUSH'S SURROGATE, WILL BECOME BUSH'S WATERGATE! Stay tuned because Bush's house of cards is tumbling down before our very eyes.
Impeach Bush now! He doesn't deserve to sit in the presidency any longer.
Doggiebobo @ 8:
If they are getting 950$ for stealing Iraq, just imagine how much they will be paid to steal the US.
Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 12:
And by their twisted definition, EVERYONE is an insurgent. This was clearly a "nazi death squad" bought and paid for by GWBush.
Kald @ 6:
Not in this country he won't! If this administration thinks that the people are asleep at the wheel, they've got another thought coming. The people will rise up against these frauds and regain their constitution and this country.
The indominable american spirit is rising....each passing day....more civil rights violated....more torture of innocents and outright murder of passersby like this Blackwater Bush Surrogate sitaution. All the people need is for one of the candidates to come forward and demand Congress to fulfil their obligation to the people by impeaching this administration for high crimes. And, just like Nixon's Watergate, Blackwater will be Bush's waterloo.
Why no mention of their occupation of New Orleans?
The petition is in itself ABSURD.
The fake governor IS THE SPONSOR OF BLACKWATER IN CALIFORNIA!
Dear Arnold letters are not going to change anything, and are a slap in the face to those of us who understand that HE already offered Blackwater a $1.2 M contract to 'help out' during CA emergencies such as a Los Angeles earthquake (since we don't have Nat'l Guard any more, in the passing of Republican co-conspirator time).
They are at the border to privatize it. They are there with Schw's full approval. WE are fighting HIM. Sending him Dear Arnold letters is like combing the fur of a wolf so he won't eat your children. Guess again.
I am afraid that the information we can get about these guys is minimal. While you are signing the petition watch some of the videos and read some of what they have to say about Blackwater. CNN says there are 1,000 of them in Iraq, however it has been reported that they are a "shadow army" that outnumbers our troops. They are so secret that their deaths are not counted in the official count. Congress can not get information about them other than what this secretive white house allows them to know.
After Katrina they were in NOLA carrying their machine guns. It is rumored that they will be dispatched to control the situation if there is another earthquake in California or another natural disaster anywhere in the US. Another thing mentioned was that they would patrol the borders....can you imagine that? As much as I think people need to wait in line and go through the legal process to get into this country, I sure as hell wouldn't want anyone used for target practice by a bunch of sick individuals who think that shooting people is a sport.
Perhaps I am paranoid, hope that is all there is to this, but Hitler had his private army, the Sturm Abteilung, and Bush has his Blackwater militia. Hitler had his concentration camps, Bush had several detainment facilities built to put people in case of major problems in the US. Perhaps the reason for wanting to have our military in Iraq is that he wants to make damned sure that when he declares martial law it will be his personal military that is in control without fear of any interference from the US military. He had stated that any emergency or another war would be reason to declare martial law. It should be no surprise to anyone, we have been given all the pieces of the puzzle. Unfortunately only those who pay attention have a clue because our media is also owned by this administration.
BennyP @ 17:
Was disCUSSed extensively in another C&L thread yesterday which also delts w/Blackwater.
This reminds me of the corporate police forces in the fictional film Robocop. We're not in a movie any more.
Ray @ 5:
Is it a special thrill to always predict the most negative outcome?
This event has already hardened Iraqi opinion, gotten us another hearing into Blackwater's behavior, and helped elevate the issue worldwide. It's a net gain, given the crimes that have occured.
But, but, but, but....don't we like Brown shirted thugs in Bush's America? I mean, it's all about fascism-r-us, right?
Ave Bush!
Heil Bush!
Which is more appropriate today?
Sure- you need a big rightwing paramilitary force in California to keep them damned "illegal aliens" in line...and lets not forget those leftist university students.
Blackwater:the future of Fortress North America.
*cue the Starwars music*
Blackwater in Iraq is absolutely emblematic of the neocon freemarket fundamentalism that drove the invasion to begin with. If this current generation of Republicans wants to make government "small enough to drown in a bathtub," the necessary implication is that wealth-generating corporations move in to fill the void.
The hiring of a private military—and with it the absence of oversight, the absence of citizen control of force and the absence of legal control of violence—is completely in keeping with their larger agenda to privitize everything, from education to social security to national forests to you name it.
You are more likely to see the Bush administration draw down the number of US soldiers in Iraq than you are to see them stop writing checks to private security companies working there. For it is the extra-legal, profit-generating presence of Blackwater and other such entities on the ground in Iraq that is the real fulfillment of their vision.
One simply cannot look at this Blackwater story without seeing the invasion as a whole for exactly what it is: a governmental assist to a private plundering of Iraq's resources.
EJG @ 19:
That's clearly untrue. There are in fact at least 100 of these companies in Iraq, but there is no solid evidence that their numbers are anything like 180,000 troops.
Paul in LA @ 26:
The point is that nobody knows, anything we hear is just hearsay and our government has kept the numbers under wraps. There is no evidence of anything where these guys are concerned. I did read one report that said they outnumber our troops, but since Bush is keeping the numbers such a secret nobody knows for sure. The thing is, there is danger here. Why would Bush have a militia that he keeps the numbers and actions under such security that even congress doesn't get the information? There certainly is nothing admirable about this situation.
Private Armies funded by the US gov....this is only possible with a reich-winger sitting in the WH.
All bought and Paid for by US citizens tax dollars, Kind 'a makes you feel proud to be an American don't it ;)
orion @ 16:
Really? I dont think so. One well timed fake terrorist attack and he has the entire law enforcement and military in his pocket, especially if Iran is blamed and the war machine rolls to Teheran. The people have no means of organizing or acting, as their every move is easily under survailance. Trouble makers can be stowed away in the maze of new, but atm empty prizon camps around the country.
The people will rise... pah! who are you kidding?
Hey, look on the bright side: at least you're not outsourcing your death squads. American jobs!
Kald @ 30:
Then what is to be done? I won't give up.
Paul in LA @ 26:
The numbers are scattered all over the place....mercenaries numbering as many as the
number of our U.S. Troops(approx. 160K), to 20K as estimated by U.S. Representative
Jan. S. (Illinois), down to 1,000 as mentioned in the Yahoo News article earlier today.
NO one seems to know(especially "our" Congress) because Blackwater and other types
of security forces are not reportable or accountable...neither in numbers or the costs
associated with them, plus the exact numbers of contractors(Halliburton,et.al.) that
are actually in Iraq varies greatly. Seems incomprhensible, but that seems to be the case.
Paul in LA @ 26:
I agree. It's possible whatever "study" etc that was done to assert that may consider the amount of actual combat/patrolling troops in the field
Blackwater Private Security Explained
I don't know how many of you saw the documentary on independent contractors in Iraq on PBS, but it was informative and gave me a new perspective of what these contractors go through on a daily basis. The independent contractors are under fire (or the fear of fire) every time they take a convoy across the city. They have no idea who is waiting for them around the corner. Every parked car could be wired with an explosive. The insurgents target the contractors on a daily basis because they're highly visiable. I can understand how when fired upon they fired back, because they are fighting for their lives.
What is unfortunate is the lost of innocent civilians. Don't think for one moment our troops have not killed thousands of innocent civilians. Civilians are a casualty of war. My anger isn't with Blackwater but how our government has handled independent contractors in Iraq. Washington has yet to design a plan to aide the military in working with independent contractors for the betterment of Iraq, or even given military personel a hand book of how to admonish the contractors when they violate rules and regulations. This lack of organizaton has left the military and independent contractors butting heads against one another, which undermines our efforts in Iraq.
The only person Americans should be directing their anger towards is Bush, who's responsibility it is to insure the safety of our troops, as well as independent contractors employed by the US. There is no organization to this war, it's a free for all. KB who is an independent contractor supplying food and a large array of services for our soldiers, was unable to say how much it cost to feed a soldier per day. Or how much it cost to clean the bathrooms. Their reply? They don't figure it that way. Far too, many blank checks have been written by the White House to companies who are profitting billions off the war.
One independent contractor who was employed by KB to find individuals to work in Iraq was bringing in slave labor from other countries. The men they were importing thought they'd be working at luxury hotels. Imagine their suprise when they wound up in Iraq. Their passports and papers were taken away, they did not speak the language and they were held captive. Many of those slave labors have died. That's just the tip of the ice berg of the dirty dealings that go on in Iraq on a daily basis.
jtmonty...
Move to Canada :) Or something. I dont know. It is too late preventing the WH from doing what they want. You could of course lean back and hope they dont use the tools they have been forging that allows them to take all power. But if they are not too be used, why go through the trouble of getting them in the first place?
Seldom do disparate breakings news stories converge to paint a larger picture. Even as news of atrocities by American military contractor Blackwater rocked Baghdad, Republicans in the Senate blocked the Habeas Corpus Restoration Act, ensuring that the most draconian features of the Bush administration's detainee policies remain in place. Meanwhile, Rep. Peter King (R-NY) lamented the presence of "too many mosques in this country." It's no wonder a recent Pew Research Center poll revealed plummeting approval ratings for the United States within Muslim countries worldwide.
For the details, see:
"Blackwater, Habeas Corpus and the Global Muslim Backlash."
Unfortunately, it appears that civilians had to die for somebody to take action against this shadowy Iraq security contractor.
Shouldn't this say "it appears that more civilians had to die for somebody to take action"??
Kate @ 36:
About a million and a half dead civilians.
This is NOT a legal war, Kate. Civilians are not a 'casualty' of this war, they are VICTIMS of major warcrimes.
Those 'contractors' are MERCENARIES. They are not 'security forces' in the polite sense of that word. THEY ARE THUGS.
And if you want to prove that to yourself, Google "STRYDOM, Fallujah" and learn how Bushco allowed the hiring of Korovet South-African deathsquad members barred from foreign armed service by their convictions. These private armies in Iraq also employ deathsquad murderers from Argentina, Indonesia, Guatemala, former Soviets, etc.
The US military is also EMPLOYING KKK. There are racist gang symbols all over Iraq, and Bushco's derogation of our troops has forced them to fight alongside racists who in earlier times would have been drummed out of our military.
So please take away your jar of honey. These are capital crimes, and we want JUSTICE.
Paul in LA @ 40:
Absolutely effing right on.
That the Iraqi governement is barred from prosecuting murdering foreigners says a lot about the US claims to have handed over sovereignty to them. The war crimes just keep adding up don't they?
Doggiebobo @ 33:
The numbers aren't THAT mysterious. The larger number is a manipulation of the total contractors figure. Rep. Schakowski's figure is far more reliable than Scahill's (or Yahoo).
Gekke @ 29:
No.Stop paying taxes.
Jo @ 41:
I'm with Paul and Jo on that!!!
Terrible @ 42:
They do, and we have to have the nerve and the valor to demand justice, for the rest of our lives if necessary. There is NO statute of limitations on warcrimes, genocide, aggressive war, and treason.
The Boys from Bushco will have no rest until they are brought to justice for their many crimes.
With that in mind, I'm off to go street protest.
sully18 @ 44:
Oh, sure.
sully18 @ 44:
NO to stopping paying taxes. Don't encumber your family with IRS problems.
One of the idiotic reasons offered to justify leaving a "residual force" in Iraq is "we gotta protect the embassy."
So let 'em hire Blackwater - and let our soldiers come home.
Blackwater... Bush and Cheney's Pretorian Guard, were deployed in NOLA:
Excerpts from Alan Maass Interview:
Maass: YOU WERE probably the first journalist to discover that Blackwater was on the scene in New Orleans, in the days right after Hurricane Katrina struck. How did you come across them?
Scahill: BLACKWATER'S MEN actually beat the federal government, FEMA, the Red Cross and all these organizations to the hurricane zone.
In fact, I interviewed Cofer Black--the former head of counterterrorism at the CIA, and now one of the top people at Blackwater--at a mercenary conference, and he told me that they sent a helicopter and a bunch of their guys down there without any contracts at first. Clearly, they saw this as an opportunity to really cash in on the disaster of Katrina.
Within days of their guys deploying down there, Blackwater was handed a very lucrative $409,000 contract--literally to guard a morgue in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Fourteen guys, four vehicles, for 22 days--and they were paid $409,000.
That contract, which was not open to public bids, was awarded to Blackwater, and it would kick off a contract spree that in just four months would amount to over $30 million for Blackwater.
They were billing the federal government some $950 per day per man in the hurricane zone. I had Blackwater men who told me that they were getting paid $350 a day, plus a modest per diem. So that's $600 that Blackwater had to play with, above what they were paying their guys.
http://www.counterpunch.org/maass06022006.html
You can bet your A*s that they will be deployed in case of "civil unrest" and they don't have the restraints on them that Federal troops do.
"Support Our Mercenaries"
Doggiebobo @ 8:
There's always money to be made in the "war on drugs" ™. Blackwater's already obtaining surveillance airships to add to their private air force. $15 Billion is just a start.
America doesn't need a Blackwater AT ALL and for the our government to give security contractors blanket immunity should be illegal.
Blackwater are hired killers and have been killing innocent Iraqis from day one of the invasion. Some of our troops were killed per order of the White House like Pat Tillman. Remember how a truck drove up with sharp shooters then fired at Pat Tillman and left right after that. The Iraq prisons is where Blackwater trained our troops to do torture yet none of them were charged. If PM Maliki doesn't protect his people from the Blackwater hired killers only more innocent lives will be lost. Things are so bad even the American people don't want to hear about Iraq anymore. Yes today 3 more brave soldiers were killed but no body really cares just the lip service of support our troops. One lady told me she brought a bummer sticker to support of troops but would never let her grandchildren join the Military.
I'm sure Our Lord and Personal Savior(tm), Mr. Jesus is well pleased with his little army, led by one of his beloved children. I'd be willing to bet big money that He is just *itching* to attack Iran or shoot Mexicans trying to cross the border.
Boy, that would teach those brown bastids to love their neighbors as they want to be loved...
Kate @ 36:
Fuck 'em. Get out of Iraq then. You don't belong there.
If the US, which does not govern Iraq, can "grant" immunity to Blackwater, then Iraq is not sovereign. Quit the sham, and accept Iraqi's grievances: They are a puppet democracy, but some US contractors are above their laws. That is impermissible.
Prosecute Blackwater for war crimes. If they are guilty, deny them tax relief worldwide. Then hunt their employees down to detain them for war crimes. Deny them Habeas. Make them plead for mercy. They are alleged domestic enemies, and a threat to our way of life.
Should they have a DHS file as well, or are they on the "list of people who are above the DHS watch list"?
Why are corporations allowed to be/have private armies?
Why aren't we calling them militias?
Why aren't we calling the owners warlords?
I don't know if it is the right thing to do to sign this petition if you don't come from California.
But I am going to send the petition to the governor of MY STATE and ask that we pre-empt these guys from coming here.
When did it become legal to raise a private army within the boundaries of our nation?
Anyone can hire them to overthrow a government?
Like ours? That's what they are REALLY for you know. They are threatening the cowardly Democrats to back down or die.
Obviously the Democrats do not have the 60 required votes to do anything in the way of impeaching Bush or to disband Blackwater. However, i suggest that since (either by lack of votes or by design) the Democrats are helpless kittens right now that we press candidates for office (President and Congress) about what they intend to do about this private mercinary army that is sucking off our economy and threating not only our freedom but the lives of civilians where ever they are deployed. We need this band of pirates outlawed, forever. Perhaps this is the one clear victory we can achieve in 2008.
I don't understand why the Iraqi's cannot pass law to prosecute Blackwater. The American's can say what ever they want & offer whatever guarentees they feel like to Blackwater, but they are only American law guarentees. If Iraq is a sovereign deomcratic state, it can outlaw whomever it feels like.
BC @ 61:
Obviously Iraq is not a sovereign state. I never thought it was. The Bush Administration will replace it the moment if deems it needs to.
Supposedly, our military is doing a bang up job in Iraq at a cost to taxpayers of over half a TRILLION dollars; so why the need to supplement them with mercenaries?
What's wrong with this picture?
JR @ 63:
Besides the frame, everything.
I would bet Blackwater is ultimately answering to the CFR.
I know someone who worked for Blackwater for 2 1/2 years in Iraq. He bragged to another close friend of ours how he popped 12 Iraqi citizens in the head from distance in one night in his underwear.
Innocent Iraqi women and children shot in the head by a Blackwater mercinary.
This guy has a 7 year old son and a 4 year old son.
I don't know how he lives with himself.
If Iraq is a soverign nation, they can prosecute whomever they want. Or is this another example of Bush admin. hypocrisy?
I hope everyone signs the petition. The fascisti needs to be put out to pasture
While BW and the rest of the mercenary forces are probably in the 25,000 range in Iraq, note that no one in the public knows how many CIA soldiers there are, how many planes the CIA now has, how much of a parallel military the CIA has.
During the invasion, the CIA targeted and illegally bombed the Russian ambassador's convoy leaving Baghdad. After killing the ambassador's driver, the CIA then searched the car (illegally) for documents. These were acts of war against Russia, and don't think the Russians have forgotten.
The problems are 100X worse than most people can imagine.
Blackwater will STAY in Iraq. Blackwater will stay in California and in Illinois.
All this Blackwater omnipresence is being put out for a purpose.
The Cheney/Bush administration is pressuring for more power to wiretap.
Blackwater presence is real but not real. Bush wants total adherence and he
will allow another 911 if he doesn't get it. Deny it! Call his bluff. If Cheney
allows another 911 be ready for it. Put it out to Americans not to be afraid
but do not trust Cheney/Bush. I have to hand it to Cheney, do not let him
do it. Back him down! Call his bluff!
Remember the anthrax letters. They did not originate from Iraq.
realnoid @ 69:
No they won't. Blackwater is in deep shit.
The Fallujah Four lawsuits, and others to come, spells the end of this little experiment in terror within a few years.
And BW isn't IN California yet. They are still being opposed.
I am confused about this Blackwater story, because I thought all armed Americans in Iraq were heroes doing the lord's good work? Could I have been wrong about this?
Signed the petition with the following comment:
I am not a resident of California, but I pay a lot of Federal taxes. Blackwater is the private army of the neocons, and my tax dollars are funding them, against my will. That gives me the right to petition the representatives of whatever the state in which they are located.
Blackwater is a criminal enterprise, which bleeds money that should be going to our forces in uniform. Blackwater is routinely committing war crimes, and using my tax dollars to do it. This company, and others like it, should be illegal. They are not a militia, per the 2nd amendment; they have no inherent right to exist. Our military is the only legitimate entity for armed forces that ostensibly exist to serve the country. Only the military can provide the environment of accountibility that strives to assure that atrocity does not happen - or can punish atrocity if it does occur.
Blackwater should be siezed by the government, its asset confiscated in whole. It's employees should inducted into the military service of their choice or be made to foreswear the bearing of arms.
Make no mistake. Blackwater is the private army of the neocons. Under the guise of "privatizing" military services, Blackwater exists and functions specifically to avoid accountibility for crimes of war. their only purpose is to avoid compliance with our own and with internatinal laws and treaties. That shames our country.
The problem with creating and arming mercenary armies, is that sooner or later, the government - or the citizens - end up having to fight them. Given who they serve, if they are allowed to exist, there will surely come the time when they are turned upon the citizens. I find prospect particularly diturbing, given they have already repeatedly demonstrated that they will not hesitate to murder civilians and noncombatants.
Do the right thing. No excuses this time.
If the government tried to declare martial law, I would expect that many in the military would not cooperate. Bush and Cheney already know this. To pull it off, they would enforce it with a merc army like Blackwater. Couple that with the building of a massive base in California, Blackwater must be ramping up employment and increasing training. They may not even need the mercs who are now in Iraq to help them enforce and with our military in Iraq, it would be pretty much up to the citizens to fight well trained, battle hardened mercenaries. This may all seem like a lot of fiction but it is our responsibility to watch our government. Not the other way around.
Retired Navy @ 74:
Retired Navy,
You're right. I think Bush and crew would be in for a rude awakening if they decide to wage war on the American people. I expect most of the police forces would jump at the chance to do it, but I'm like you... I think major portions of the military would refuse or revolt. Also, the military is outnumbered by veterans and retired most of whom, I suspect, would end up supporting the constitution and the people. I don't think the Blackwater types would last all that long, regardless their initial successes at armed thuggery.
That leads into something I've come to suspect of late: that the most blatant propganda networks have been loath to offer any coverage on the violence in Iraq, because the fascists for whom they work don't want the American people to see or get the idea that mighty military and police organizations can be brought to a standstill and cornered by a popular guerilla insurgency/war. It wouldn't do the totalitarian types any good for people to begin to believe that tyranny can be resisted and defeated.
War profiteers are the lowest form of humanity.
Retired Navy @ 74:
Another view: Veterans are in law enforcement, and are supporting the illegal activity. The US military is not relevant if the illegal activity is implemented by law enforcement and contractors. Yet, even if the military were involved, to argue the military would "refuse" to follow these orders asks us to believe a fiction: The military did follow illegal orders to invade and occupy Iraq; and has illegally implemented unlawful orders to violate the FISA and US Constitution.
To suggest that the conflict is in the future ignores the reality that this government has already started its war against civilians: It violates our homes, intrudes upon our privacy, and self-issues general warrants used to stop Americans without reason to gather information. It's fiction to argue this is some "speculative future problem". The issue is how deep the abuses and intrusions are, and no plan by the US government or public to stop this abuse of power.
DHS and local law enforcement make excuses to search for weapons, targeting systems, and methods to monitor the government. The US government well monitors e-mail and will shut down accounts related to personnel suspected of being aware of the illegal activity.
realnoid @ 69:
All US government promises that contractors are "immune" to war crimes accountabilty are not valid, lawful agreements: their aim is to bypass Geneva and permit violations of the laws. Such an agreement is illegal, and not for a lawful purpose. The US has no power to agree to anything which immunizes anyone for war crime. Such an agreement is against publi policy. Legal counsel knows this.
OK...(sigh) signed the petition.... Yet another petition for yet another redress of yet, another atrocity perpetrated in our names, in this case by private sector mercenary entities but with our governments blessings and collusion....
That appears to be a basic problem in all this for me as far as believing anything will come of this latest effort... The people in positions of power with the authority to reign in outfits like this Blackwater corporation.. in fact support them... I don't know how you get around something like that.. Since recall of politicians behaving like spoilt five year olds is 'off the table' as a practical response......JD
Where are the police unions on this? Where are the mayors? I should think that the tens of thousands of employees of the LAPD, SDPD, and the many smaller city police and sheriff depts. in the region would be outraged by this, and are really in the best position to stand up to Scwarzenegger and Bush on this.
blackwater is bush's private little christain army look up the leader, and also gee where to they by all there weapon's hmmm
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