Giuliani grabs a Cheesesteak to bash some Latinos
By John Amato Monday Oct 01, 2007 4:02pmWhat a hypocrite. Rudy has no problem selling his soul for some wingnut love.
Rudy Giuliani is finally going to talk about something besides 9/11 (actually, that's a guess, and we'll probably be proven wrong), and he's coming to 2008-election-ignored Philadelphia to do it. On a day when social conservatives and the far right are increasingly worried that the former New York mayor is too liberal on their cultural issues, Giuliani will visit Geno's in South Philly, all so he can order a cheesesteak in front of a sign that says: "This is America -- When Ordering, Speak English.".
Immediately below the sign, it says "Management Reserves the Right to Refuse Service." Just a coincidence, owner Joey Vento will tell you...read on
Will he answer his cell phone when his wife calls over at Geno's?
Rudy: How are you honey? Where am I? (winks at Joey) I'm over here in Philly, with my good pal Joey Vento---having a tasty cheese-steak and bashing a few Latinos, how about you? I know I was a big supporter of immigrant rights, but hey, I'm running for President. Back to Will Bunch:
Once upon a time, in the mid-1990s, when he was the mayor of one of the most liberal cities in America, Giuliani fought with the federal government on behalf of immigrants, including the undocumented, while seeking public funds to help immigrants win citizenship and defending the right of police and hospital workers not to ask immigration status. Her even said: "I believe the anti-immigration movement in America is one of our most serious public problems."
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Giuliani is a scumbag.
I'd sell MY soul for a cheesesteak right about now.
According to Giuliani(as recently as on Monday of this week), HE is the only repig
candidate who can beat Hillary....so going to Phil. and trying again and again and
again to gain support and raise money is his goal; not eating one of those yummy
cheesesteaks..
The man who owns Geno's Steaks in Philly is a vile, horrible, vicious racist. The city of Philadelphia's Human Relations Commission has been after him for this sign nonsense, and he deserves it. He claims he isn't a bigot, but then follows every claim with some absurd racist comment. Again.
So "Rudi" should've felt right at home.
Stupid move Rudey Quebec borders New York and their money is as good as anyones.
Make mine a Pat's Steaks steak. With provolone.
Does Vento have any clue that his--and my-- ancestors were treated that way?
"If you are unable to speak English in a manner that doesn't cause me to listen with a slightly raised degree of concentration,I reserve the right to despise you,and not serve you".
Screw Guiliani, I'm following kos and getting in line with this guy:
http://www.mercerforpresident2008.com/home.html
Besides, he's a dem (and way, way past the general norms of sanity)!
At Geno's if you are ordering, you MUST speak english.
But if you work in the kitchen washing dishes, you can speak anything you want because we'll still pay you below the minimum wage and if you complain one bit - we'll open a can of INS whoopass on your illegal status.
Geno's - as American as mom, baseball, and Timothy McVeigh.
Everytime I see this clip, it brings a tear to my eye...then again, it could be the violent vomiting that is causing the tearing.
This is why I go to Jim's on South St. Twice the steak, half the hassle.
And hadenuf is right. If Vento or Giuliani ever toof the effort to read about the despicable Know-Nothing Party of the early twentieth century, they'd realize that they're carrying on a nasty legacy that should ended a long time ago. But apparently you're not a true American unless you find someone to hate simply for the sake of hating them, I guess.
Go Phillies.
Ah, I can feel the brotherly love from here.
vento di culo = ass wind
Goes for both of them.
haha
Yep, this is America--called so after Amerigo Vespucci, whom I'd venture to say was Italian.
And English--didn't that language come from another country?
We gotta keep things pure around here. No mongrelization for us, nossir.
An ego such as Rudi will never allow a filter, so in time he will tell us all we will ever need to know not to vote for him.
Michael @ 2:
One cheesesteak coming up...bwhahaha!
I lived just outside of Philly for several years. And the best thing I remember about those years were the cheesesteaks. It's approaching dinner time here and my mouth is watering thinking about eating one of those greasy but wonderful tasty sandwiches.
I just saw the clip of Rudy ordering the cheesesteak. I think his wife was with him, so no phone calls this time.
Satan, you can have my soul too. Hand over the sandwich. :)
What a sack.
I heard about this guy and his sign a couple of years ago. As Attytood says in his article, his neighborhood is becoming more Latino and the city itself is becoming more international. This is one case where I say let the free market forces sort it out. He's going to keep pushing that it's his private property and business, and can have that sign all he wants, blah blah blah until the day he dies and nothing will ever change. However, the more he pisses off the community, the more they'll boycott him and patronize his competitors until he goes out of business.
As for Rudy... man, is he trying to beat Romney to the bottom or what?
Such a panderer. Hillary takes lessons from Rudester...
Rudy=monoglot
I'd like to see someone try to order from Geno's with an extremely heavy Southern (Yam speakin' Anglish... y'all def or sumethin'? Tell yew whut...) or Cockney (Oim speakin' English, ya fookin arse!) accent.
Why has the idea of promoting English become a bad idea? I agree that many who say 'English only' are right-wing a-holes, but that doesn't make the idea totally wrong. If it was up to me, I'd try to get English to replace Spanish in Mexico and further south. I think if we did all share one language, it would go a long way in seeing our fellow Americans (as in North, Central, and South) as fellow Americans.
breakspear @ 22:
Hillary? Missed your meds today didn't you, you
sexist prick.
And I'll remember that in the future if I have an urge for a Philly's cheesesteak from Genos and not to say that my name is Jose. The owner may want to give me the cheesesteak sandwich. Rudy/Rudia is a hypocrite.
Rudy's trying to get street cred from the George Lincoln Rockwell fanboys
Smack_dab @ 25:
language is just a red herring here - it's never been about language, it's always been about class, greed and the corporate way.
I think we need about 100 hungry, diverse progressives to line up at Geno's and order in perfect Spanish, Dutch, Japanese, German, French, Arabic, and British (an order of bangers & mash - just to screw with 'em).
And then post it on youtube as they get thrown out or give the owner a heart attack.
Boring Scott @ 30:
:-D count me in!
Boring Scott @ 30:
Don't forget the Farsi. And Engrish. And the staring at the owner as if he's STOOPID for not understanding. And they should have large wads of cash with huge orders. Let's see how long it would take for them to take orders in 'not English' then.
I hope he gets a call from a BIG campaign contributor, IN SPANISH, and has to respond!! "Hola. Ghouliani. Ci." (I don't know any Spansih. We Canadians learn French.)
Here in Canada, we have 2 National languages; English & French. Even during the days of seperatism in Quebec, if there was a sign at a restaurant that said; "This is Quebec, speak french"......the sign would've been torn down......by a french-speaking person no doubt. Not all french-speaking Quebecers would've stood by and accepted the ignorance of so few.
Here in Canada we accept our multi-culturism....UNCONDITIONALLY!
West Side story........"Only In America....land of opportunity".........it doesn't take only a republican to be hypocritical.
What happened to "This land is your land, this land is our land"?
I side with Joey Vento, not Rudy on this. This is about maintaining a rule of law and not some fabricated "racist" or "class warfare" arguement. Our language is English. Our emergency systems, road signs, phone books, everything is in English.
As a long time LA resident I've witnessed the results of illegal immigration. I’ve researched unbaised reports on the effect on our schools, housing, taxes, health care systems, and more. They are breaking our laws, starting with sneaking in, then the under the table earnings, identity theft for various reasons. I am second generation Italian/Irish and my people stopped at the border, got physical exams, signed in, learned English and became American citizens.
Illegals sneak across the border with no check on their criminal past, health, nothing. They come to be IN America, not to BE Americans. Most don’t learn the language and barely provide any tax base for all that they consume. 95% of the murder warrents here are for illegals. 30% of our nations prisons are filled with illegals. Illegals murder over 4000 citizens a year. Does that make me a racist or them criminals?
Mexican Aztlan madness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyunoKE3Ar8
1997 Cost of immigration http://www.carryingcapacity.org/huddlenr.html
Statistic on illegals murdering natives: http:/www.northcoastoregon.co.....tInputForm
Hospitals “Mugged” by illegals: http://www.michnews.com/cgi-bi.....i/178/8693
Today because of massive illegal immigration from Third World countries, we have more than 7,000 people suffering with leprosy…
http://www.frostywooldridge.co....._2003.html
That’s my nickel…
man, attytood's comment section is eaten up with trolls.
it's a shame when they swarm a place like that. uncontained or fed after midnight and blam! dang that was gremlins...oh well same problem.
JudyLou @ 15:
Actually, the official language was probably Apache or Ojibiwa and these people were indeed the first insurgents. All they wanted was their little pieces of land and the white man could have the rest. Shit, that wasn't even good enough for us.
This land was founded on a conservation-minded group of people and then one day, the boat called GREED washed up on the shores. It hasn't stopped since.
Jenny'O @ 36:
I think of trolls as spice. They don't bother me. Aren't you ever amused by them? Freedom of speech applies to everyone.
(Just make sure it's in English ;) )
"What a hypocrite. Rudy has no problem selling his soul for some wingnut love."
You can't sell what you never had.
Smack_dab @ 25:
It is just ironic since the people who live in the area of Geno's don't really speak English all the well.
Edwin, they can spout it, you can be amused by it, i can't stomach it...it's like watching billo or listening to rush.
you know someone needs to keep an eye on them, and heck some people watch and laugh their butts off. their pot is lots better than mine.
they make me want to hurl.
EJ @ 35:
I just don't get it. There is such a problem at Geno's with people walking up and saying Yo quiero un sandwich de bistec con queso (or, for that matter, vorrei un panino di bistecca con formaggio) that they had to put up a fracking sign?
As a first-generation Italian-American, it's a constant source of frustration to me to see how racist my people are, after our ancestors having been treated like garbage.
Satan @ 17:
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that guy would shit is his doorbell rang right now.
razant @ 34:
Hey c'mon. I've had the CBC for years. The Québécois are so accepting of multiculturalism they have 'language police' (Office québécois de la langue française) that enforces the bigness of French writing in signs over English. And have tried to secede from Canada by referendum twice. They are recognised as a separate and distinct culture, and for awhile, practically all the provinces wanted the same.
Please, Canada is definitely great. But don't fib about it. It's all run by white people too.
"This is America, Speak English"........................Yeah, right! In Ameica, (especially NY, PA & Southern cities), you'd think english was taught from some sort of HEINZ bottle. I've never heard this language so poorly spoken anywhere else in the english-speaking world.
I'm blown away when I hear the clarity in pronounciation from Indians, Pakistanis, Africans who live in the British Isles.
Comparitively speaking, they speak english 50 times better than the majority (not all) of black America and virtually all of poor black America.
And I think this point is the sad part of America's fabric. You are becoming a house divided and the white leadership in this country is doing everything they can to do that. I'm white- french-Canadian and our Haitian society speak better english.
It kind of goes along with Chertoff's attack on the illegals for trashing the environment at the border. I wonder if the Republicans are going to try to make the Mexicans the issue of the 2008 to try and get a pass on the Iraq occupation and the Cheney/Bush crimes. Come to think of it, Chertoff is working for Giuliani.
Jenny'O @ 42:
I went over and "kicked some ass" for ya Jenny. My pleasure. (I'm Edwin over there too.)
The store owner is actually correct
miss_kitty @ 45:
As a fellow Canadian, please, I request, tone it down. Canada is a very nice place to live (even though I'm living in Korea right now), --full stop. Nationalism, and too much pride, are the leading causes of war. We have a few of our own problems too. Overall, nothing we can't deal with.
pissed off patricia @ 19:
satan allso deals in heart disease , cheese steaks agggggh wheres the nitro
miss_kitty @ 45:
Thanks but...Perhaps you missed the term, "days of separtism". Here in Canada we truly do practice the freedom of speech and show a lot of respect for heritage.
First of all, the Quebecoise party was formed just like the NAACP and yes, they wanted separation from Canada. Being a Democratic society, they achieved the required mandate to hold a referendum (twice) but when push came to shove and all Quebecers were involved, the referendum (close the first time with their hero-Rene Levesque) but with no leader, it died a miserable death and it's dead now...that was the deal. But, they were given the opportunity. That's democracy.
As far as your assertion about all provinces wanting to seperate, you're very wrong. Whether it be the provinces with fishing, mining, forestry, oil, business centre...they all want their share of the pie and it's a smaller pie than the USA but it's a pie that has to be divided nevertheless. Sometimes, some provinces don't feel they are getting enough of the pie (and here's the thing that going to piss you off) and with America's political interference in the Canadian political arena...it's felt there is this egging provinces to seperate. You'd have to have been under a rock not to realize, the USA has made it a habit to go for other countries resources and sadly, Canada is no different.
Alberta and BC for years have had USA political interference and now the same is being noticed in Newfoundland because of the oil reserves (surprised).
Yes, we are neigbours and more than 1/4 have family int he USA...but we are very aware of the Bush Agenda.............incidently, I think before anyone can get on this blog, you should have to read "The Bush Agenda" first.
Hah...A Canadian who reads books on American politics....is that a first?
Hail to the Champ @ 49:
Perhaps. We also have a right to deplore him for it, drag his "good" name into the public forum (note: I have not maligned him), encourage people not to go there, and to ostracize his shop too. We have the right to excoriate Giuliani for going there. We have the right to poke fun at people that have narrow little pea-brains too.
Edwin @ 50:
you ever get up around wonsan harbor pick up some of that steel i shot there and send me a chunk for a keepsake
What this fool does, does not really matter anyhow and we can show him much better then we can ever tell him.
When finish with his ugly stupid ass, he will be the laughing stock of this country and I know that will make the hearts of his kids and ex wife sing.
All the public officials in this country who are fighting to protect illegals are just barking made. We all went to bat for African Americans but those people always had the law on their side, i. e., the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments to the Constitution. Mexicans, on the other hand, are systematically breaking the laws of the U. S. to come here and stay.
I've yet to hear anyone ask, "why is it, (since I can remember- Kennedy) no other VP has ever not decided to run for Prez like Cheney has decided not to do"?
Personally, this presidency was made for Cheney in what he wanted to accomplish and in no way could he accomplish these things from the Presidents chair. That decision should forever haunt him as it's quite clear, his VPship has been 100% for Dick Cheney and the USA has (and will continue) to suffer for it.
He is your Benedict Arnold of the 21st Century!
sister julieane would rather suck on a satan meat tube steal!
steak
I was in South Philly today....had a cheese steak from the best....Johns!!!
tyree: I didn't know that about you; you served here. I haven't even been up to the DMZ yet, and I've lived in Seoul for 10 years. (I always go abroad for vacations.) I bet you've got some stories to tell, and I'd love to hear them someday. If you're ever in Korea... seriously.
If you haven't been back, you wouldn't recognize the place. Capitalism run amok (not necessarily in a bad way.) Not the dusty little place it once was!!
Sadly, the younger people don't care a toss about that history. I know. I teach them.
Michael @ 2:
From Tony Luke"s home of the best Philly cheesesteaks? Kinda across the street from Geno"s. I am glad that putz did not soil my favorite Philly cheesesteak stand. I am happy I can still go there.
Edwin @ 61:
thats to bad edwin the kids back then cared i can tell you that, the last im i was in korea soul stood about four ft off the ground , yeh i got stories , does pusan still smell like a sewer?
QuakerDave @ 6:
Yep...I've been a Pat's man since childhood. Not that any of it matters.
But Rudy picking GENO'S is just so obvious.
I know I know..It's all a 'hairdo moment' but fun to bash Rudy
any way I can...Because I can...I still believe in Freedom of
Speech and...ya better have a thick skin to run for Prez.
Cheesesteak? "Will he answer his cell phone when his wife calls over at Geno’s?"
If anyone thinks there is someone on the phone, they aren't as astonished at this LAME GAG as I.
'Hello? Oh it's You, God? H'yeah, I'm just here talking with Your NRA. Do You have any messages for Your servant to deliver to Your people while I am here before them?'
I found the separatist business was fascinating. I watched both times with great interest. I loved getting to know Rene Levesque, Lucien Bouchard, Gilles Duceppe, Jacques Parizeau and seeing the formation of the Bloc Québécois. What was disturbing to me was it was BARELY COVERED in the US press. I had no one with which to discuss an obviously vibrant, exciting and stimulating political time in a country 150 miles from me.
The thing I disagreed with in your statement was "Here in Canada we accept our multi-culturism….UNCONDITIONALLY!" And the impression I get from Gloria Makarenko's, Ian Hanomansing's and Peter Mansbridge's reports on the news is it's not ALL that.
And I'm living the GD Bush agenda. I don't need to read about it! :P
tyree @ 63:
i was a torpedoeman slasg gunner on a destroyer opperating up one coast and up the other destroying targets , i allso pulled shore opps in wansan sanjin and a few other harbors calling in fire on targets to my destroyer and blowing up bridges rail road tunnels ect , dam it got cold there!
Pat's Steaks is the superior steak............and I know, I love the cheesesteak
tyree @ 63:
I'm quite sure Pusan doesn't smell like a sewer now. (I was only there once, ten years ago.) Seoul is crammed with glittering skyscrapers, and choked with cars. There is shopping everywhere; people "dress to kill". They're fast catching up to Japan. (Which is ultra-glitzy if you've never been.)
I bet if that stupid Vento's nonna was still alive she'd slap him upside the head for being such an ass. Doesn't he realize that his grandparents/great grandparents or whomever also at one time didn't speak English? My Italian relatives didn't either when they immigrated, but no matter how poor their English was, they never displayed such ignorance as this buffoon.
Edwin @ 69:
well im sure that smell was the corpses of the north koreans up around the pusan parimiter god it made me barf big time!
When everyone starts really looking at Giuliani's mayoral tenure - I mean really start looking, at everything before Sept. 11, 2001 - Folks will realize just how much this was NOT hypocritical. It is well within the race politics he is known for in NYC. The question is why are we so afraid to talk about that?
keep eatin' them colon cloggers,witt, Rude E
freds dead!er threads dead
I know others have mentioned this but I just couldn't contain myself,
A CHEESESTEAK FROM GENO's?
This is proof-positive Rudy has now has no clue (if he ever did).
Jim's on South Street is the place to get a cheesesteak in Philly. Having been USA for SDNY and mayor of NYC he should know this. The fact that he apparently doesn't shows he must have been living in a bubble all these years!
For God's sake, they even ship anywhere in the U.S. overnight (http://www.jimssteaks.com/indexb.htm)!
Rudy is Sicilian.
Sicilians are Latins also!
How's he bashing Latins?
philfromnc @ 75:
But they don't sell caviar.
Or wives.
Guilliani fuck wit, America better off widout.
miss_kitty @ 66:
Thanks for the response and I too haven't discussed it in years. We've moved on. Interesting what you said about Gloria, Ian & peter in so much, if you look at these 3 and their surnames and it's so typical of the the multiculturalism. Go to Manitoba and it's Ukranian & German announcers. No big deal really...I attribute it to the advantage of being 30 million..............the size of NYC.
Perhaps the the biggest problem with the states right now. At 300 million and 49% not voting for your President and now he's deservedly at 30%...that's way too many people in disfavour for him to be in power but nothing can be done.
Robin @ 76:
You may be clever enough to realize such things, but the goons that will lap up this photo-op, wouldn't know the difference. They just want to hate someone less white and less fortunate than they.
So, hours later, Edwin asks, what exactly is a cheesesteak? The spray-on cheese sounds dreadful, so does Cheez Wiz. Don't they use Philadelphia* cream cheese, or is that a brand name? I hope it's really steak, but maybe not.
Rudy: "We should make certain that they can read English, write English and speak English,"
Yeah and hows about we make this law retroactive so we wouldn't have douchebags like you around?
talk about pulling the ladder away after you've reached the top.
razant @ 79:
All that other stuff aside, how do you think Rick Mercer gets people like Conrad Black give a lesson on waxing a maple leaf?
:lol:
Being a native New yorker and knowing how this immoral fascistic phoney carried on a love affair under his children's noses in their own home, I can only surmise that his new lover and possible wife (# 4 (or is is #5); one forgets - was calling. I assume she was advised to call on cue in order to arrive safely wherever she was supposedly going which was probably to the powder room down the hall. He as almost as bad an actor as he ever was as mayor, and believe me, that was pretty bad. Give up all civil rights if he ever gets to go where he "thinks: he has a chance in going., but I believe = given his lack of qualifications, the only place he will wind up going is downstairs., and that's not the ladies' powder room I speak of. (Although I am sure he has been there a few times - which is ok by me)....just don't become president., 'nuff said.
#61., no one care about history., that's why we keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again and thinking they are new. Humans are not that smart. Destructive., but not to bright., sad to say. Humans think they are: that is their unfortunate curse and for the life of this planet. Maybe if we realize we need
history because history is what we are about ., i.e, philosophy, etc., we can do something., but I doubt that will never happen. Cynical, yes., but sometimes
there is a need for cynicism for something to change.
Being always available? do you mean that you need Viagara Rudy? I wouldn't be surprised......although why any would want you to use it is beyond me....other than do that, use plenty of Viagara, rather than campaign., that would be most appreciated by all who know what a lying, racist, facist mayor who did nothing for Rescue operations (I work at a clinic who treats people at Ground Zero), ....that you are. And get rid of the lisp, it's not cute, never was.
Back when "This is America — When Ordering, Speak English.” story was
in the local paper, in a few days, the was a great cartoon by Tony Auth
showing all the Italian pastry, cheese, meat shops around that area
of town with "Italian" words on the shop windows. Of course no one
went over to them and said anything about 'them foreign words' or 'speaking english'..
He should go to Ellis Island and bash some immigrants. that's the level of class i've come to expect from these clowns. America's mayor indeed.
They're from Philly. How can they tell anyone to speak English when they don't speak it themselves?
What is truly unbeknownst to the audience is that each of those calls...is actually to Jeff Ganon ;)
I found this at Digg.com and I'm trying to spread the word. If you really dislike Giuliani, you'll help by posting this information anywhere you can, include his fucking campaign website!
Rudy Giuliani Constitutionally Ineligible To Be President
The Constitution states:
“No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.” – Article 1, Section 9
Rudy Giuliani is running for the highest office in the land and he has been knighted by the Queen of England. This knighthood, called “Knight Commander of the British Empire”, was bestowed on Rudy Giuliani on February 13, 2002.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1818874.stm
forum where found:
http://www.criticalreactor.com/forums/rudy-giuliani-constitutionally-ine...
It's America...if you're a Naturalized American, speak any language you want.
If you crossed borders illegally, we have no record of your background (are you a pedophile, are you a murderer, a rapist, a thief? WHO KNOWS?!), you can open bank accounts with a Mexican voter registration card, with no proof of American citizenship, yet a 17 year old American can't open a checking account (due to the Patriot act), and you're going to contribute to a coming environmental disaster (how many more water bottles being discarded with an unnatural population increase?) then yea, I think you should at least speak English.
jus sayin.
And yea, I'm a liberal with common sense.
Give me a gyros anyday.
but ... Rudy is from New York, and he's used to immigrants.
I can't believe he's demagoging this issue.
What a shlemiel.
Robin @ 76:
My Calabrese grandma says they're Greek...
(ducking)
Waaah! People are racist Boo-Hoo!
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