Judge denies Larry Craig's bid to withdraw his guilty plea!
Poor Larry, I just feel so terrible for the guy. I guess the judge figured he knew what he was doing when he pleaded guilty.
“Because the defendant’s plea was accurate, voluntary and intelligent, and because the conviction is supported by the evidence ... the Defendant’s motion to withdraw his guilty plea is denied,” Hennepin County Judge Charles Porter wrote .
For those C&Lers that missed this, here's audio of Larry Craig's bust:
Sergeant: “You are sitting here lying to a police officer.” Do you pick up stray pieces of toilet paper from the floors of public restrooms? Was your palm down or up? I could tell it was your left hand…
Craig: “I sit down, um, to go to the bathroom and ah, you said our feet bumped. I believe they did, ah, because I reached down and scooted over and um, the next thing I knew, under the bathroom divider comes a card that says Police. Now, um, (sigh) that’s about as far as I can take it, I don’t know of anything else. Ah, your foot came toward mine, mine came towards yours, was that natural? I don’t know. Did we bump? Yes. I think we did. You said so. I don’t disagree with that.”
Sergeant: “Okay. I don’t want to get into a pissing match here.”
"I still believe you"-magic bulleteer Arlen Specter
I have nothing to add except, LOL.
I'm confused, does this mean he's gay or ungay?
Loonie @ 3:
He's a raging bisexual.
I can only pray he still tries to keep his Senate seat until Nov 08.
He said pissing.....heh
Hey, what happened to the Myanmar thread. I just finished watching the clip, hit comments, got an error message and now no Myanmar thread.
Loonie @ 3:
you stole my thoughts........
"Thank you all for coming out today." hehehe
These jokes really write themselves sometime, no? (:>
LOL ... what a nice way to start my afternoon.
So, he's not gay (which I'm glad of)
He's just a disgusting perverted GOP hack.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Colbert did a great thing about Craig's gayness or not gayness, last night on his show with an openly gay man. I saw the rerun this morning on the Comedy Channel.
So what's Larry's next step with his wide stance?
You guys have to get some clips of Dana Perino today talking to the press about the torture story in the NYT this morning. She's too much of a light weight to try to handle something this big. It was sort of funny to see her try. I bet Tony Snow is down on his knees thanking his god that it wasn't him up there today behind that podium.
Maybe if the senator got down on his knees and ... :)
Larry, don't cut and run! We're still behind you (metaphorically speaking) so stay in your seat and fight!
Doesn't the judge understand? He has a "wide stance". He can't help it if he spreads his feet 6 feet appart when he craps.
see your honor, I was guilty before I was innocent!
Announce his retirement, effective 2220AD.
We know that he's been a bad boy. A naughty boy.
Are pissing matches illegal? Better tell that to congress if it is, because they seem to be holding these matches almost every day.
Wonder what the repubs are going to try to do to Craig now? Will they force him out (no pun intended) or will they allow him to keep his seat (if he keeps it to himself)
Praise the Lord!!
He can now do what his fellow 'I'm not gay' Republican hypocrite buddies have done when they were publically busted with their spindly tails irreversibly snagged in someone's political crack.
Craig can resign to spend more time with his wife and family.
G.W.B. war criminal @ 15:
he's have to take his pants off in order to have a wide stance.
IgnoranceIsNotBliss @ 7:
Why would a thread like that be removed?
He broke a law that sure wasn't passed by them mean old DFLers. This is mean old conservative republican stuff. You're welcome, Larry. Now go away.
Justabull--get real,the man is a sickook and so goes his party -- both be flushed down the toilet, in Nov .2008
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That is what happens when you take about two months to return a plea agreement signed, guilty and claim that you were pressured! Shameless Dick!
I'm considering rewinding to the part where Larry tells us he's concerned not only about the moral state of the country, but also about what's been coming out of his ass lately. I mean, they edited it for MSM consumption, but the guy says it started with turds that were in the shape of #2 yellow Ticonderoga pencils, then spinning tops, now he says they look like small forest creatures, characters from Tolkien tales and astral projections of alien beings hoping to beam him up to the mother ship in time for the Rapture. What do you think? We’ve got a lot of time on my hands (idle hands, the devils work, and such) before we throw the whole lot of lollygaggers out. What shall we do, what shall we do? Lot's o' questions, no possible answer. Some say drugs is the answer. That's too simple. Tried it, been there, done that, too much of a hassle, and what about those running sores? All those running sores. Personally, I'm thinking maybe coffee enemas or I'll get a paper route.
Seeking guidance on the big questions in life,
My friends, this whole process is going to be a piece of cake with carpet tacks substituted for raisins. And the reason for my hubbub, bubs? Two hours sleep the previous night, courtesy of some lame pudenda ramming my poor truck’s funky butt almost nigh 3 ½ years hence. Yea, I heard the cock crow, the mermaid sing, and the fat man chuckle as he set off on yet another adventure in search of the fabled black bird. The stuff dreams are made of? Or take your dreams and get stuffed? I guess it’s just as confusing on the other side of the eight ball as well. I suppose Mr. Hawking never took my lie dream of the casino soul scene seriously, so I’m left right were I started, searching for that singularity. Save your pennies for your eyes and eye/wheel hit this subject betwixt the nose, nostrils held thusly! Send lawyers, guns, and money!
No apparent purpose.
So, will he step down????
Don't give up, Larry!
Keep fighting those urges!
G.W.B. war criminal @ 15:
I'm still trying to figure out how you can have a "wide stance" when you've got your pants around your ankles.
Carl Gordon @ 25:
Sounds like he needs some Milk of Magnesia.
I still start laughing every time the phrase, "wide stance" is mentioned. Being female I never heard anyone use that phrase before. Is it a common phrase amongst men?
pissed off patricia @ 31:
just the GOP my dear/
Senator Craig can now go back to being Larry Craig and continue to have non-gay sex in men's restrooms.
pissed off patricia @ 31:
It is now.
Alexander Cockburn has written an excellent article about Larry Craig:
"Three Cheers for the Libido, as Entrapment Downs Senator Craig"
http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn09012007.html
SFnomad @ 29:
MC Hammer genie pants perhaps.
im sorry, im glad to see the hypocrite go,, but where is the crime here? touching feet and waving a hand is enough to arrest people on now?
justabill @ 5:
Be careful what you pray for. The rednecks in Idaho will re-elect him.
Miss Kitty, when we ladies are on the toilet, should we measure our stance?
I was in a public restroom this past weekend and it was the first one I had been in since Larry was caught. There was no way in hell I could have placed my foot in the adjacent stall and I have long as hell legs. Yes, I was sure to check that that stall was unoccupied before I tried. :-P
Gee what a pity. (hahahahahah!)
This guy is a moron on so many levels.
paranoia @ 22:
I think they accidentally posted it live too soon.
He's not gay people!
He just really REALLY likes the taste of dick.
So tell us folks how are the repugs going to spin this? "leftist" judge? A "travesty" of justice? Or is that even necessary since they've already given him the official heave-ho under the bus?
His decision to try to withdraw the plea was simply brilliant, don't you think?
pissed off patricia @ 39:
Women are probably giving a bit more leeway since they have to squat over public toilets.
I just can't figure out why his "wide stance" made him want to blow the guy in the adjacent stall.
Poor Larry? Feel sorry for the guy? No Way. He's a self-loathing hypocrite who's OPENLY legislated and advocated anti-gay positions for years. He should burn forever in a hell of his own creation, the pig.
Superhero tend to have a wide stance in comics book and so do some hip hop artist that wear the pants below the butt.
Some one should replay Tom Delay's comment on how when republican get caught with their pants down are quickly removed from office. Both Delay and Craig smell like old cheese already and they still hang around the office. I just love the hypocrisies.
Myanmar is such a horrible nightmare situation. I welcome this little light break before thinking about it with the seriousness it requires and deserves.
If Craig didn't have the voting record that he does and if he hadn't made that smarmy comment about President Clinton back then, I would feel sorry for him.
leftminded @ 38:
Even Better still! lmao
Old "wide stance Craig" loses this pissing contest along with his personal integrity and credibility. This man is a joke and to think that the likes of this type sit in Congress over all of us is downright ridiculous.
pissed off patricia @ 48:
Wait until you see the video that John has. It really is heart breaking and quite frightening in that reich-wingers would actually accept such actions here in America.
I wouldn't pick up a $100 bill off the floor of a public restroom....and this douche expects us to believe he was picking up toilet paper??
I'm sure no lawyer would ever advise him that he'd prevail on this motion to withdraw, he just stubbornly went ahead on his own.
Which of course makes it all the more delightful! :D
Mynamar is of great interest, because of the extent the govt will go thru to keep control. Much like Venezuela to getting back the elected president in power. The common people had to fight for the freedom. That's is what our original arm force of this country did for us, and how quickly this has turn on us, where we have systematically replace these soldier with paid merc, Blackwater's soldier. The consensus of our arm force have reflected much like the nation and the motive of sending them to the Iraqi front is much like Hitler sending most of the populist soldier to the Russian front.
distraction
is our larry craigs learning?
Dr. Matt @ 4:
But he's not "gay". :)
Larry will drown his sorrows over this unfair ruling by getting it out of his system at the nearest truck stop glory hole. He'll show us he's not a "real" gay! He'll deny those nasty, dirty boys his essence.
What is a "wide stance" when you're sitting on the crapper?
Is it possible to have a swordfight in a porta_potty Larry?
Loonie @ 3:
Neither... he's undead, like dozens of other GOP zombies.
Excellent! One more Republican loser down. Now the Minneapolis airport toilet police can get back to trying to catch Norm Coleman.
Whoopi Goldberg said the thing about this deal that bothered her was that he would actually touch anything on a public restroom floor. I'm with her. It's just too gross to think about. Picking up a piece of toilet tissue off the floor makes no sense at all. Is he also a neat freak?
Perhaps he can withdraw his guilty plea by pleading insanity.
GOOD. NOW the other Senators need to send him to the "OUTHOUSE"!
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/10/minnesota-judge-correctly-flushes...
"I still can't quit you, Senate"
Love how he claims he was a victim of entrapment, considering the definition of entrapment is, when a person is induced or persuaded by law enforcement officers or their agents to commit a crime that he had no previous intent to commit. So did he mean to say that he was committing a crime that he was induced into committing?
GOP Mocks Humor Gods One Too Many Times
GOP releases their 2008 Convention Logo .... elephant bending over in Minneapolis. Nope. Not kidding. It's really their logo ...
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/055096.php
L. M. F. A. O. ! ! !
"Picking up a piece of toilet tissue off the floor makes no sense at all. Is he also a neat freak?"
souvenirs
Hmmm... should we call the Idaho or local AG and insist that Craig be registered as a sexual offender?
Rufus Xavier Sasparilla @ 35:
I would only trust a journalist named Cockburn to report on this affair. At least Craig didn't try the "I'm bulimic" defense...
justabill @ 68:
That elephant really does have a wide stance!
Singing Senators: Where Are They Now?
Chris Matthews follows the post singing careers of that Fab Four crooning powerhouse, "The Singing Senators", featuring Trent Lott, Jim Jeffords, John Ashcroft, and Larry Craig.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NnhWdV-MjQ
"You don't get a 'do-over'", said the judge to Larry Craig.
"Now watch this wide-stance..."
I just hope Olbermann includes this in his Countdown tonight, and Jon Stewart skewers him on TDS.
pissed off patricia @ 64:
Actually, the bathroom floor is probably "cleaner" (ie: far less bacteria) than your kitchen counter. The two main reasons is we often think of the bathroom as dirty place, so clean it more often, and if the maintenance crew at the airport works well, they probably clean it at least twice a day; the second reason is that more heavy duty chemicals are used in cleaning bathrooms (ie: ammonia and bleach) because we wouldn't want to ingest those chemicals often.
...but yeah, there's still no reason to randomly pick up a loose piece of toilet paper on the floor... the maintenance guys would probably take care of that.
The Freeper have been HARD on the Senator - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1888525/posts
"…but yeah, there’s still no reason to randomly pick up a loose piece of toilet paper on the floor… the maintenance guys would probably take care of that. - Blue Buddha
Maybe he mistook it for what's left of the Constitution after he and his cronies in the Republican Party got done with it.
justabill @ 73:
Well Ashcroft is gone, and Jeffords didn't want to drink the Kool-Aid and became an independent who often sides with the Dems.
pissed off patricia @ 64:
Misty water-color memories . . .
pissed off patricia @ 64:
back in the day, it was a walk in the park, wearing a handkerchief in or on a certain part of the body.
now it seems that anonymous gay male sex from public restrooms in airports involves rituals akin to the fighting cock with elaborate foot movement and much head-bobbing.
all puns intended! :lol:
"You must be careful what you pretend to be because in the end you are who you're pretending to be."
I can almost feel sorry for Craig, living a lie for probably his whole life. He has probably lived that lie for so long, he doesn't even see it anymore.
oh Snap! Didn't see that coming....
Yay Judge.
/Faith in current judicial system receives +4
Dirtpatch @ 37:
solicitation of an illegal act is a crime. (sex in a public place)
an unsolicited advance from a stranger can be considered assault.
If a crime had never been established, there could be no valid guilty plea.
the math works!
So, will he fall on his sword or was it just lip service?
Dirtpatch @ 37:
I would agree with you that this hardly seems criminal behavior. I could care less what two consenting adults do with each other as long as I don't have to see it. But the reality of the situation is that people like Senator Craig have decided that this behavior should be illegal, and they passed laws against it. The beauty of this entire situation is that Sen. Craig and others of his ilk are now having to face the consequences of their ill-considered criminalization of behavior in which they engage. Perhaps this episode will awaken in these pitiful individuals a new tolerance of others.
Hell, who am I trying to kid, they'll just pass more laws, but at least we'll be entertained when they get caught breaking them.
ohh my, Larry is a big old "CATCHER" of bad news these days!
Ricky Bones @ 76:
I just read their fund raiser bar across the top for this quarter. Goal is $66k, and they raised just over $10k in the past 4 days. I dunno if that's a typical rate of support from readers, but it sounds like they aren't doing too well for being one of the most popular conservative blogs.
I will always take a wide stance in support - er, I mean I will always stand firmly behind Senator - um, I will always caress the manly pecs of - damn...
Shit, I don't know.
CD @ 87:
Really? I kind of thought he was on TOP of the situation.
A convicted republican toe tapper, lol
Blue Buddha, I am a clean and a neat freak. I'm put up my kitchen counter and sink against any airport bathroom floor in the world. Bacteria are the terrorist in my house and I fight them in the kitchen so I don't have to fight them anywhere else. ;)
The way Sen. Craig was twisting around & contorting himself in that lil' stall, "picking up toilet paper" and all that, it was like he had his own little fucking Mummenschanz/Momix performance goin on in there!
GO PACKERS!
Women can be total pigs in public restrooms, so if the cleaning people came in every 15 minutes to clean, there are women who could make it a pig sty before the next 15 minutes passed.
why is it that only rethuglicans are accuseed ? could it be hypocixy?
I don't give a damn about their sexual orientation, just don't put it on me.
Signed straight guy who isn't homophobic.
No Officer, just stray Men.
Damn straight.
*
The lesson here is, once you plead guilty to being gay, no matter how many times you subsequently deny it, you can't take back your guilty plea.
I am torn. Do I want this lying, duplicitous sack of shit to go back to obscurity? Or do I want him to stick around and be a source of torment for his fellow Republicans? Tough call. He should definitely fuck himself.
If you plead guilty than say you aren’t guilty, does that make you a perjurer?
Great...now let him crawl back into the woodwork where he belongs. JCB
The funniest thing about this whole mess (as others noted) is that if Larry and people like him hadn't tried to legislate against "immoral" things like this, and/or he was openly gay, then this wouldn't be a story at all.
Nothing wrong with consensual sex between two guys (although depending on the situation, I think if the dude next to me in the bathroom were trying to silently come on to me I might be put off), but when you've made a career of bashing, in essence, yourself, that's pretty funny.
Also sad, but not that sad--thing is, if you're a gay-bashing gay republican politician, I'm not so sure it's self-loathing as much as someone so craven that the lust for power at ANY cost is so great it overrides even self respect. If he really thought what he was doing was immoral, that's sad. Since he probably doesn't, and just legislates against himself to get those votes he craves, that's just evil.
And I'm leaning toward evil given that he's absolutely refusing to give up his grip on power. Please stick to that plan, Larry!
AntiFed1791 @ 97:
Straight men? OH, stray men...
CNN just reported Craig plans to stay. He refuses to step down.
Breaking: Larry Craig to remain in Senate.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/055099.php
yep, CNN is reporting a statement from Craig
Best part of the Judge's decision:
“The defendant, a career politician with a college education, is of, at least, above-average intelligence,” Judge Charles A. Porter Jr. ruled in Hennepin County District Court. “He knew what he was saying, reading, and signing.”
I still can't believe that a U.S. Senator had the nerve to claim he didn't know what he was doing when he plead guilty. That alone makes him unfit for the office.
Strawberry @ 106:
Well, we know he can't step aside - on account of that wide stance. :D
But Vitter is untouched.
No offense to gay people but....
homowned!
I am beginning to wonder if what the Republicans have is a big tent or a big closet.
Why all the gaybashing over this issue? many people on the left want to out this guy- When he comes out (if he is gay) is his decison- This whole incident was ugly, as it confirmed to me homophobes are on both the right AND the left.
Of course the judge refused! Think of the mess such a pecedent would have cause the entire legal system.
Harley @ 110:
Vitter would have been replaced with a Democrat. That is why they overlooked his transgression.
Nice to see GOP has adopted a "wide stance" on the issue of gay washroom sex. They ,no doubt, will "reach around" or under any stall to get to "tip" of the matter.
Choam,
I don't necessarily think it's gay bashing. There is some inherent sexual content humor which would be present if he got caught picking up a hooker on the strip and then made up a ridiculous story about how he was just giving her a ride.
Maybe I'm wrong.
In the interest of full disclosure I made a joke about him being a top and not a catcher. In all honesty, I do think that he would be a receiver and not a giver.
Col Kilgore @ 116:
Here is an example of left wing homophobia....
He has to stay, they made a logo with a wide stance:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/10/4/145252/385
Bwa.
Harley @ 110:
Since Senator Vitter is from Louisiana, where they have a Democratic Governor, Republicans will stand behind him, no matter how bad his transgressions. Wide Stance, being from Idaho, where they Republican Governor, well, they're not going to stand behind him. It's not about actual conservative values ... it's about power.
Choam Nomsky @ 113:
Yeah, Choam, but didn't this hypocrite just vote against a hate crimes bill like two days ago? That is what pisses me off. He deserves all the flack he gets.
Choam Nomsky @ 118:
I still think it's just sexual humor. You could apply the same comments to straight sex.
leave him in office...much easier to replace with a Dem later.
all of these jokes are quite funny, but in a way, its all very sad.
if he wasn't a hypocrite, i'd feel sorry for him.
Fanon @ 122:
I think Choam missed the Alabama sex toy thread aways down.
Strawberry @ 124:
Yikes! I guess I did, too! Were any called the Alabama Slamma? har har....
Is Lying Larry going to resign or run for relection?
WHO CARES, go ahead, stay larry!....we need a constant reminder in the Senate that the GOP is populated with lying corrupt gay closet homosexuals whose only interest is the coverup of all their lies at the detriment of the rest of America as they continue to fleece the treasury for bushco.
p.s. Larry, ignore all those calls from the GOP congressional leadership calling for your removal from all those important committees, we need you to have as much 'face time' as possible with the American public between now and November 2008.
btw - hi Karl, too bad on that rudy giuliani california electictoral fraud debacle being exposed as money laundering, and Jeff Gannon says he wants his toys back, LOL.
miss_kitty @ 34:
I think it's hilarious- Wide Stance. No men never talk in the washroom, or about the washroom- taboo. They don't look at each other. It's rare they'd even say hello. They act like they are alone and the others are sort of not really there-- avert eyes, do business, get out. There is no "camaraderie". There is no speaking. If you know someone, "hi" is OK, but not more.
Now about this Wide Stance. If he's in a stall, that's called #2, pants pulled down around thighs, or maybe to knees-- you don't drop 'em to the floor, it's dirty. How wide can you get with pants around your legs? Try it.
There is no communication. I've never tapped my foot. Why in gawd's name would I? Men are paranoid about their perceived masculinity. PARANOID. Nothing is ever done to jeopardize that, pain of death stuff. Haven't you noticed the "I'm not gay" hug between men. Then they get away from each other fast, visibly shaken.
Of course, I'm liberated from all that. It's funny for me to watch. (Men are odd creatures.) Guys, you don't have to Chuck-Norris-it-up. (Give it a rest.) Be free; it's wonderful.
Does that help ladies?
I understand he is not leaving his Senate post.
abarts @ 128:
You are correct, Larry is the gift that keeps on giving...if you are a Democrat!
Strawberry @ 121:
I'm not a homophobe. I'm fascinated by the absurdity of this whole case. Fascinated by the hypocrisy and spin. Wide Stance is such a dolt, I'm eager to watch him put his foot in it yet again, and get egg all over the GOP's face, while he's at it. If he's tired of the attention, maybe it's time to stop "going national" and retire.
Here is the link to his statement:
http://craig.senate.gov/releases/pr100407b.cfm
hahahahahahhahaha
Craig still ought to tuff it out. Make them kick you out, Larry! Hold onto that seat 'til it's torn from your cold, dead fingers.
OT
There are health care rallies planned for tonight. Moveon.org has info
Strawberry @ 121:
He's scum, I'll agree- but some people on the left are ridiculing him BECAUSE he's gay- some left wing blogs are starting to look like right wing blogs with the gaybashing comments regarding this issue...
The Truth Hurts @ 53:
Now, now, in fairness, he just said "paper". It may have been a fascinating gum wrapper, or a bit of newspaper, or a reciept. He may have just been tidying up because of his sense of civic duty. Isn't that what most Senators do in public washrooms, when they're not exchanging stacks of banknotes?
It was the reach to get the offending "paper" that caused his legs to bolt out sideways, in a Wide Stance position, into the next stall, against another man's, and then he simply ran his fingers, repeatedly, along the divider to steady himself. Pleading guilty was a hasty mistake he made. Two months after the fact, in the quiet of his own home (hoping it would all just go away.).
this guy will surely have an article at corruptapedia.com lol
Choam Nomsky @ 134:
Choam, if I’m gay myself (which I am, and proud of it) is it still gay bashing, or ridiculing the patently absurd hypocrisy of a public figure? Lighten up.
Choam Nomsky @ 134:
I still don't agree that it's because he is or is not gay. I think he is being ridiculed for the nature of the situation. Come on, it's pretty ridiculous. Leave out the genders of those involved. You were arrested for soliciting sex.....in a bathroom.....in an airport......in MINNEAPOLIS!!!!
Sorry, it's funny. Comedy is dangerous.
Senator craig, once you plead guilty you are considered guilty. Are you stupid or something? Or are you just a hypocritical republican?
BTW, did you ever "bump into" gannon/guckert when you were visiting with karlie, kenny and georgie in the White House? Bet that was a load of fun. Your wide stance must have come in very handy there.
He's staying on and the Thuglican convention is going to be in Minneapolis too boot. Doesn't get any better than this folks, it's Christmas in October!
You might wish to joke but this situation is getting serious and scary. At what point does denial cross over to delusion? At what point is it bs and at what point is this the product of a deranged mind. Over and over again we see neocons crossing line from denial to delusional. You might think its funny but it frightens me. I thought neocons needed understanding and education, know I think they need medication and hospitalization!!
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003925013_webcraig04....
miss_kitty @ 34:
'Wide stance' only makes sense if you are STANDING, like at the urinal. For the most part, urinals are pretty close together, so it would be weird for someone to stand with legs wider than shoulder-width.
It's impossible to have a 'wide stance' while sitting on the toilet with pants pulled down - unless you are sitting with pants pulled up, or you have taken them off entirely (on second thought, I'd rather not get too deep into this - who really wants to know the details of Senator Craig's toilet habits? I sure don't.).
Jack Lewis @ 142:
No doubt it's delusional. It has been for 7 years, but the MSM cheer it on, and most Americans are too damn busy shopping to care. (You new here? Not to be antagonistic, but we already know.) This is only the "comic relief". Or our heads will explode.
Reality is a bitch than can not be denied. Sad for us when it does finally slap them, we might get a bit of it.
What kind of pressure did the senator exert on the Idaho Statesman to keep them from releasng an article questioning his sexual prefeference? Perhaps the senate should investigate.
Edwin @ 135:
Also, didn't the cop say there wasn't any paper at all? From what I can remember (please don't make me go back & relisten to/reread that ewwww!), another reason Craig made up the toilet paper thing was to cover for the cop knowing he was wearing a wedding ring on his left hand, a hand he couldn't have seen if Craig's version was true. Why can't this slug just go away like he promised? Let his family enjoy him full-time (minus his generous retirement benefits would be nice but won't happen).
What's the Senate Ethics Committee going to do about him now?
Looks like he is going to stay now - http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3690596&page=1
Annoyed Canuck @ 144:
a wide stance is much to be admired but dont you find it tends to draw up the anus to tight to poop?
Wow, his "friends" are beating him like a pinata! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1906585/posts
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