"24" Creator Thinks Clinton As President "Is Nuts"
CNN:
The man who has created several presidents for the hit TV show "24″ says it's "nuts" to think of New York Sen. Hillary Clinton being the next real president.
"I'm not even sure that Hillary is a fait accompli [to be the Democratic nominee] at this point," Joel Surnow, the executive producer of the Fox show, told reporters and bloggers over the weekend, according to the Washington Times. "Are we nuts thinking Hillary Clinton could be president of this country?"
"Honest to God, just stand back and think about it," he added.
So let me get this straight: The man who went with Rush Limbaugh on that ill-fated trip to the Dominican Republic, forever inflicted upon us the "Jack Bauer Scenario" as a foreign policy, not to mention the completely unfunny Half Hour News Hour "comedy" show (I use that term loosely) wants us to believe that the idea of President Hillary Clinton is nuts???
You might very well ask who is Joel's man of choice?
Rudy "A noun, a verb and 9/11" Giuliani. Now, that's nutty.
Where's "John" from the Bush thread? slippy toad has an ass-whoopin' waiting for you!
The "person" or "persons" responsible for the train wreck known as the "Half Hour News Hour Comedy Show" should be mocked, then ridiculed, then completely ignored.
to be fair...most republicans are experts on 'nuts'
Yesterday, she was called a bitch. I guess nut is a step up.
What I can't wait for is the DVD extras next season with clips of Joel Surnow and Janeane Garofalo (reported to be on the next season of "24") going at it, that would be must-see-TV!
ohio liberal @ 3:
and gay sex in public bathrooms...
Joel needs to rethink his statement. From what I heard in the next season of "24" that there will be a woman President. And of course, Joel introduced his fans to two black Presidents on the show: characters David Palmer and his brother Wayne. Joel needs to stick to his show and let the public decide who they want as the next President, woman or not.
So Bush has been a shining star for them? After this president the only way to go is up.
From where I sit, that's a "ringing endorsement"!
Bush
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Time for a break, vote Ron paul, stop the war/s, Clinton won't end the wars, she is frothing at the mouth at the thought of bombing Iran, shes a establishment corporate whore, take a look at the people who are backing her ffs, shes just the "left" puppet of the false left/right paradigm, it's just an illusion, wake up, stop playing the game, it's RIGGED.
He also supported both bush's, so what kind of judgment is his. The 28% Moron Factor?
Chloe, get out of there! You're in danger! Your boss is a right-wing tool and promoter of torture. Oh wait. So's Chloe. Oh screw it.
She's garnered the biggest lead of all contenders in the party. Not so nutty at all.
Frightening? Scary? Those are more accurate terms.
i thought about it joel.
if nominated she gets my vote.
anything else i can help you with?
Whoaaa! Hold on there Bessie. Looks like someone had a lil too much of the Reichwingnutz Kool-Aide.
No soup for you!
andy @ 10:
Cmon If it was really rigged you'd hear some news report like rigged "Rupert Murdoch establishes a bond with her and her campaign..." oh wait
You're exactly f#$ing right, sir.
I wish that guy knew how very little, as in none, his opinion means to me. He creates fictional characters, what we are talking about is as nonfiction as it gets, it's real life and our real future. We don't get to write the ending that we like, we have to try to find someone to lead our country who will bring us to the ending that we like.
Bullshit. This guy just wants the torture ratings the Repukes were giving him. As long as the repukes are in office, they'll keep citing fiction to justify why we torture innocent people in other countries.
And yes they are innocent until they have a trial and are found guilty, which as we all know, Repukes wont let war criminals have in the first place.
Oooooo, a tv producer's expert opinion.
This is a taste of things to come if/when Clinton gets the nomination. We will have a year of republican hissing and belittling.
They are champing at the bit to wear us down with the mud-slinging that's coming.
Hillary sucks. That said, it's absolutely retarded to even discuss what Joel Surnow has to say. What political influence does he have? oh wait, he created the very realistic 24. Unreal. I hate the media
Lollimom @ 19:
'Nuff said. This guy is out to lunch
Murdoch ALWAYS backs the favourite to win, in Britian he supported Thatcher (conservative) in the 80's and Blair (Labour) in the 90's, ..he is rumored to have been out to lunch with clinton, shes a puppet why can't people see that ? Ron Paul is the people candidate, he has grass roots support and raised 4+ mil in one day, get behind him, forget that he's a republican, although he is more libertarian, look at his policies, anti war anti income tax anti IRS etc.Hillary will not make real changes, shes brought and paid for.
She also voted for the iraq war yet she MUST have known Saddam had no wmd's, Ron Paul knew because he read the inteligence on iraq.
Wait a minute. I thought the repigs are AGAINST Hollywood types being involved in politics.
Perhaps he can explain what he and Rush were doing in the Dominican Republic on an all male golfing holiday with enough Viagra to send every Senate Republican running for the nearest bathroom stall.
I don't think I could give a crap what some producer of this rediculous show thinks, but so long as we're talking about it..
I think the choice between Rudy and Clinton is nuts.
Because they are both horrible choices to lead our great nation.
He's a idiot gas-bag who lives and breathes 9-11 and the terriers, She's a corporate hack who cannot take a stand for anything, particularly that which the most of the nation wants: Out of Iraq and true universal health care - not her gift to the insurance companies.
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 23:
First, go fuck yourself for calling me out in suggesting that I am a republican.
That said, great, great point.
Wait, how is it possible for a hit TV series to be the work of a neocon? I'm pretty sure that all of TV and the movies are controlled by a liberal elite conspiracy! Has anyone informed Tim Robbins or Sean Penn of this breach of security??
andy@22
Blair was Labour party???
Oh, you mean like Lieberman is a Democrat. Now I get it.
Mike V. @ 25:
Amen. Preach the gospel. Both are horrendous choices.
am i supposed to defend hillary now? ain't gonna happen and i think it would be nuts. just like now.
As I said, Rudy's best friend in this campaign...Hillary Clinton. Conservatives will flock to the polls in massive numbers because, well, there's no one conservatives hate more than the Clintons...
Joel knows where the money is and he wants some now with the strike on. Look this is suppose to be an intelligent man while he sees female President elected around the world but the United States isn't suppose to have a woman in charged. It's find for the TV Show 24 but not in real life. I guess the fact that a Black man was President on 24 was a mistake too. Should we now look for Homer Simpson to run the USA. Bush/Cheney are robbing this country blind as the Law Makers get as much of the stolen money as possible. The United States of America has been invaded by an enemy within and their in the White House now.
With so many countries elected female Presidents and this time the US has the only qualified candidate for President is a woman what well we do. Joel would live the US to put another crook in office and even the world knows how dumb Bush is and how he lies to your face. Rudy stolen the 9/11 victims money and now he's ready to do the same for the US Treasury. Right now taxpayers will have to pay 20.000 each for the Iraq invasion alone. Put Rudy in office and the US will go broke. Lost of American homes, jobs, no health care and all the taxpayers money going to Iraq/Afghanistan, this is a sure way to end the USA. Right now we have lost our Justice System and Mikie is just another Gonzales.
Hooks @ 26:
I wasn't suggesting you were a repug. But can I fuck myself anyway? I'm felling a little bored.....
I think the conservatives secretly want Hillary to win the nomination. They may not act like it now, but they do. She will have to answer all of the questions that she has dodged for years, i.e. cattle futures, Vince Foster...She will probably not answer them straightforward, so this will only be a blessing for the right. She is a joke.
Here's a question -- Do we really care what a delusional 29%-er has to say about it? Bottom line is that any Republican nominee will have a very hard time winning, regardless of who the democratic front-runner is. Thanks W!
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 33:
Take pics!
The fact he reads and quotes The Washington Times, says all you need to know about this ignorant asshole.
" just stand back and think abiut it."
Well
There has been Bush & Cheney ( two times ) - think about that.
Or Giuliana and maybe Lieberman - think about that
Or Maybe even John McCain - think about that
Clinton still has to be tested in the primares. It is not a given.
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 33:
You did in the Rudi thread because I said, 'In no way am I a republican...'. But I digress. And that's a personal choice. Just threw it out there
the repugs are sooooooooooo afraid of hillary. short of their attempting to assassinate her, hillary will be the next president. the gop is just a fat hypocitical white guy fascist group of bastard bullies.
OT but an update on an earlier topic. According to c-span, State Dept. Inspector General Krongard, has recused himself from the blackwater investigations.
It will be ironic, when Democratic Presidential Nominee Hillary Clinton choses Dennis Kucinich as her Vice President, and endorses House Resolutions 333 and 799 to impeach Cheney.
GOP ditto heads will be exploding coast to coast.
Eight more years of Clinton should be just desserts for the criminal corruption we've been forced to endure for the past eight.
I look forward to seeing the televised impeachment hearings and war crimes tribunals of the entire bush/cheney cabal.
He's pandering to the misogynist people who think it's absurd that a WOMAN could "rule over" men.
And Joel Surnow--please don't say "think about it." Dontcha think I did already???
A broken clock's right twice a day. And coming from Surnow, it's just baiting the base, which is how Republican politics work. Doesn't make me support her.
Bonkers @ 1:
Tee hee. (John, please do visit the brain dead.)
I can very much see Hillary as president. I'm not saying she would be my choice, but I can VERY MUCH see her as president.
Simple question. Why on earth should anyone give a fuck what this torture loving jackass thinks!
FreedomOfInformationAct @ 42:
I'm hoping President Edwards picks him for Attorney General.
Rush Limbaugh on that Pill-fated trip...
Like I'm gonna listen to so loser from "Hollywierd", right? RIGHT?!?
Say what you will, I'm not voting for her. I see no difference in her and what we've got now. But to be quite honest, I see no difference in the democratic rubber stamp congress and the republican rubber stamp congress. Just the democrats whine a lot.
Hillary doesn't hold any of the opinions that I want to vote for. She takes no strong stand on anything and is continually fingering the wind. She is owned by all of the corporate interests that own George Bush and the neocons. And quite frankly I just don't like her.
Christopher Dodd looks interesting and Dennis Kucinich will at least tell you the way things are. But I'm told these people can't possibly win the election.
I'm supposed to get all upset because somebody called Hillary a bitch, or the other democratic candidates have been attacking her stands. So sorry, but that is what happens to someone who is supposed to be the front runner. If she can't take it now, she won't be able to take it as President. Besides, I don't want another Clinton in the office no matter how good Bill was. I don't want another Bush either. I think it is past time to break away from these dynastic regimes. We have more people in this country than just these two families. A pox on both of them. Let's move on.
I'm not liking much of what I am seeing right now from either party. Especially in the congress and every god damned time the democrats waffle and give into that son of a bitch criminal in the White House I hate them more and more. What the hell good are the. They kept telling us when they were in the minority they were saving their powder whenever a fight came up. Well they saved it very well. They NEVER used it. That seems to be their same strategy now!!!! Just let Harry Reid email me again when he caves into Bush on this god damned iraq funding bill. Just wait.
Right now I'm not in a mood to support anyone out there.
Who...the f *ck...cares what this idiot thinks???
Eh sorry, but this is perhaps the biggest piece-of-crap-waste-of-time post...
EVER.
I've been waiting for the next "real president" for 7 years.
Well gee whiz, Joel, it was hard to imagine you and Rush Limbaugh taking an all-male, Viagra-addled trip to the child-sodomizing capital of the Caribbean, but that happened.
Blows my mind that the star of that pestilent show is the grandson of Canada's most famous socialist. Keifer's grandpa was Tommy Douglas, former Premier of Saskatchewan, one of the founding voices behind the CCF which became the NDP and acknowledged as the greatest Canadian for being the father of our public healthcare system. Keifer's been public about sharing the same political views as his gradfather too - now he's the star of the neocon's favorite TV show...bizarre.
Hooks @ 26:
I don't know whether your reading and comprehension skills aren't up to par, or that your sense of sarcasm is so advanced that us mere mortals are not yet ready for it. :-)
24 is fearmongering and terrorist central. It's the same crap over and over again. I have watched it briefly and found it quite boring and predictable. Most males that don't like Hillary seem to have a problem with "Women in charge". They seem to only say they don't like her with no specific reason or one thats pure speculation with no facts. Again how does he define "Nuts". I mean Bush, like, "Nuts" or what? That guys a real nut case.
I hope Hillary Clinton loses the election but takes office anyway.
Then I hope she runs the most corrupt, incompetent, divisive administration in the country's history. I want to see her undertake a radical overhaul of the health care system that wastes billions of dollars and kills tens of thousands of people. I hope she retains the machinery of rendition and uses the secret prisons to warehouse and torture her political enemies. I hope people who protest her rule are beaten senseless in the street.
And my promise to Joel and every other republican that tries to bring me to my senses about what a catastrophic failure as a leader and a person Hillary Clinton is: The only thing you will every hear from me is Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush. Maybe even for the rest of your life.
Here's the title of the post I most want to see here at Crooks and Liars.
Live blogging today from the impeachment hearings of bush and cheney.
because a person is successful in one venue on a prostitute of a network, that does not make him a sage in other areas. his bewilderment at the thought of hillary as president is a ringing endorsement for the lady. regardless, i'm still pulling for dennis. IS IMPEACHMENT OFF THE TABLE. If so chalk one up for the media and one in the loss column for the US.
.... that is like your opinion, man....
There's no credibility in our side criticizing right wingers for snarking on Clinton when our own side snarks on her more than anybody.
i've never watch 24 nor will i buy any of the products that sponsor the show. they are what's wrong with America.
Dr. Who @ 55:
Jeez...either way its ugly.
If that drunken halfwit can be President, ANYBODY can be President.
which actor would a tee-vee guru choose to be head cheese? and why does it think anyone would care? real folks don't move like that, think like that or act like that. they move in real time. they have to, the even take a leak in 24 hours. sometimes more than once. 40 minutes of car ads? are you kidding?
How can she possibly be worse than W-tard?
Seeing as the Rightwing Bushites love quoting '24' as referrence material, I guess it was only a matter of time before the producer/writer crawled out to be a mouth piece for the Repugs.
No, all our choices are completely nuts. We don't actually have a progressive voice in the current batch of candidates. But then again, have we ever? Will change ever come to America?
fucking mouth-breather loves 3 trillion being added to the debt and more dead soldiers than Clinton, Bush 41, Reagan and Carter combined. O'Reilly will give him the "patriot" award while attacking Mark Cuban
Hooks @ 34:
Dodged? The Republicans spent $50 million investigating the Clintons. They took more testimony under oath in their witch hunts against Bill and Hillary than any other congress in history. Even Watergate pales in comparison. And they came up nothing illegal. Just an extramarital affair with a consenting adult on Bill's part. Nothing at all on Hillary.
Do you really think the American public will put up with a rehash of that same lame crap that has already been debunked? If they try it, I predict it will backfire so bad on them that Hillary will win by a landslide. No, they will have to come up with something new and fresh if they want people to believe it. And they know that so they will try with some new slime, not with the same old shit that didn't stick.
Joel is right for the wrong reasons. Hillreh was and is the preapproved riechwing hedge on 8 years of horsesh*t. A kinder gentler corporate Prez.
stet @ 57:
Shouldn't that be TRILLIONS?? Will FOX obey??? The big question.
i completely agree.....for progressives like us to elect that mainstream bitch is inconceivable. she is as much a part of the apparatus as Bush!!!!! HELLO!!!!!!
she is a member of the military industrial media-tainment big pharma complex and she...
1. won't get us universal health care
2. won't re regulate media ownership
3. will keep us in Iraq
4. will continue to threaten our so called "enemies"
5. will continue to soak up AIPAC money
6. will keep our nation divided
wtf people
dadams @ 40:
yes, and maybe Democrats should be asking themselves why Republicans are so afraid of Hil.
Yes. Because I always get my political information from someone who created Jack Bauer, Mr. Republican Wet Dream.
'If I only had a brain...' comes to mind with these people.
Hey Michael, Hillary dose’s not need a loser like you defending her.
He's right you know. Not for the reasons he has, but for the obvious ones. Hillary is not going to be our saviour. She's no better than Guillani or Romney. She's a neo-con in a pant suit.
I'll vote independent or write in a candidate before she gets my vote!
I agree. For different reasons, hillary is status quo.
Big deal. Most of us progressives don't think it would be a good idea either.
apeman @ 48:
A three hour boy tour?
Surnow is relevant only to the chickenhawk crowd who are delusional enough to believe that what happens on a TV program is real. His show "24" is pure hyperbole and is a catalyst in creating the fervor of the right to continue the war. That makes him an accessory. I know that he will never be scrutinized much less charged for his crime of stirring up the madness so I can only hope that his fall will be swift and painful.
I watched the first half of the premier episode and changed the channel. The show is crap.
Isn't it time for this "Hollywood Elite" to keep his mouth shut? And if she does become President, doesn't that mean he'll have to keep his mouth shut and support her because she will be "the Commander in Chief" Yeah, I didn't think he would keep his mouth shut then either... But then again... that's the beauty of America's First Amendment.
The republicans are not afraid of Hillary, they long for her to be nominated, so they can win again (and don´t tell me it´s a stolen election - any body with a piece of brain should know America is not ready for a female, or black president)!!!
24 IS LIBERAL. Yes, the creators of the show, as well as the friggin network it airs on are part of the neocon crowd. However, one must look no further to the heads of state on the show to provide evidence of the shows liberal leanings:
- A progressive black man as candidate/president for three seasons. The character was an archetype for what is good with reasoned and enlightened LIBERAL politicians. The character Jack Bauer, whom some consider of the neocon breed, fought for this man for the first five seasons and shared his LIBERAL values.
- A progressive female as president for the upcoming seventh season. Is again expected to hold liberal ideals and be an ally for Bauer.
- A conservative buffon of the Bush variety as president for season five. A character so impoversed in mental ability one could tell the writers/producers were insinuating GWB as their clear example. Bauer's mission towards the end of that season was to expose the president as the threat to democracy that he is.
The absolutely ONLY reason neocons praise the show is because the character Jack Bauer has seemingly conservative actions. However, Bauer and all the revered characters on the show, hold liberal ideals and values.
Lets face it, "the MAN" has his thumb on the scale for Hillary. All you can do is sit back and watch the Right go apeshit over her, win or lose. sad
they all stink , all except kucinich,
Hey, what about that thoroughly addled and incompetent moron, George Duhbya Bush, being pResident? Isn't that nuts?
Yes, children, it's sheer insanity.
Will Democratic voters appease the Republican Crime Syndicate in destorying a Democrat.
Watch it all unfold!!
He sucks and his shows suck. I hope Jack Bauer tortures him.
Hillary Clinton Will be the next president of the USA.
Bercebu48 @ 90:
Funny, that seems to be what all the "expert" talking head and MSM are hinting at. Not strike anyone else as kinda oh I don't know.......PLANNED?
clinton guiliani bush nothing changes!
andy @ 10:
Kucinich is the only choice worth making.
This is strange. You'd think he'd like Clinton, considering that she's said nothing against torture, repeatedly backed the Patriot Act, and generally done everything else she can to align herself with Bush / Jack Bauer.
andy @ 10:
I won't vote for Paul, but Clinton is the left bookend to Bushes right. Neither Bush nor Clinton is worth shit. Each and every day that goes by that the Dems refuse to do their Constitutional duty, is another reason not to vote for any of them. We need a real option here. I don't know who or how, but we need someone to clean this shit up. Our government is of the rich, by the rich, for the rich. You can substitute corp. for rich, as it is all the same. Sickening. Simply sickening. I hate the direction this country is going...
WHY WHY WHY does the Democratic Party insist on running the most off-base controversial people they can find? I would NEVER vote for a Repiglican, but it sure sticks in my craw to vote for THIS flip-flopping bitch.
What we are gonna get as choices are Giuliani and Clinton? Living proof that US Politics is like a sewer---the REALLY big chunks rise to the top.
“24″ Creator Thinks Clinton As President “Is Nuts”
Yea, and intelligent, competent and articulate person as president is nuts. Good thing we have Bush.
Tshober @ 70:
Ok, I got severely scolded (and rightly so) for throwing the "troll" bomb on another thread last night. So at the risk of getting into trouble... If you read the "Hooks" quote above..."all of the questions that she has dodged for years, i.e. cattle futures, Vince Foster". I mean come on. "dodged"? "cattle futures"? "Vince Foster"? Isn't that Rush speak, people.
Am I wrong? Anyone?...Anyone??
capnmike @ 96:
Anyone who couldn't anticipate Hillary Clinton's strong bid for the candidacy does not understand anything about party politics and ought not be commenting. All you have to do to understand her bid is consider the concept of "party insider" and you're there. Understanding seniority doesn't hurt either.
I'm not saying she's best or worst or anything, I'm saying that she is closest to the heart of the Democratic party structure, and she knows how to play in that environment, and that's all there is and all there needs to be to understand her candidacy.
T-MACK @ 84:
Huh? Wah? You actually watch that crap? Eeeeuuu.
Hillary Clinton "is not real", this is why she wont be President!
I don't trust her because
1. CFR
2. She stood by her man?-
-Any real woman would have kicked an adulterating SOB to the curb. She's been on this ride with Bill cause she knew Bill's political family relationships were going to give her political clout, as long as she held on and followed. [To me this shows selling-out. If you'll sell-out one way, what else is there to hold you back(morals?).]
3. Pro-Politician, not Professional Public Servant!
Pro's/con's
If Billary would have left Bill back in the "was the penis crooked scandal", she would have been more empowered in the public eye(for standing up to your convictions), 'but' would have lost allot of political backing, as well as funding.
/I wear a tin hat!
I'm not a big fan of Hillary's, but Joel's thinking is asinine. Hillary shouldn't be president because she's too much like Bush.
Joel just wants attention because Fox has cancelled 24 (or has it on a long hiatus) due to the writer's strike....
*Her convictions* doh
Well....if it's not nuts...it's certianly banal.
She voted for the Patriot acts, Military Comissions act, continues to provide bluster concerning Iran.....
I will not vote for Hillary.
Joel is it?
First guy called Joel I've heard of for forty years.
Crazy.
How do we fathom it?
Well, as far as Joel is concerned Hillary as president is nuts. Probably the only meeting of the minds I'll ever have with him in this lifetime.
Hillary is poison for the people, the democrats (one of quite a few poisonous dems like, oh, Schumer and Feinstein, Pelosi, Ried, Rahm, Salazar and about 38 more).
Enough of this. Power back to the states. Kick 'em all out and get the Progressives IN.
Guy in PDX@101,
Honest to god, man. Are you serious?
ConcernedCanuck @ 91:
That's a Zombie for ya. Repukes HOPE the repetition is working, meanwhile the voters just can't shake that Revulsion for Hillary, that just won't go away. They're hoping they can prong her front & rear with a fool like Giuliani. Right, "Bercbu" boo boo?
Steal another election with a fool like Giuliani.
gladnottobeamerican @ 83:
Agree about why pukes want her, except for the prospect of a 3rd stolen election. I don't agree either about a woman or a black as president, an idea quickly discarded as an obstacle when your country is governed by the criminally insane.
Sounds like we should be listening to this guy! He makes TV shows!
What do the creators of Full House and Saved By the Bell think?
isn't this the same guy who made shows.. where the president did bad things.. in almost every season, and that there's ALWAYS a spy in the group that screw things over?
I hate when people go along with the.. "just think about it" without giving us anything to really 'think about' ...If there's anything to think about.. what about our current president.. you know, the stupid looking guy who says things like a mouth piece, but not really a leader.. he just talks like one.
I watched the first 2 seasons of this show as a rabid fan...then it dawned on me...the show (to me anyway) was kinda ,like trying to get us used to the notion of torturing terror suspects...I stopped watching it soon after...it seemed to glorify the breaking of American and International laws to get the suspect...
If thinking Hilary could be president makes us nuts, what does thinking dubya could be president make us? Primordial ooze?
I'm not going to disagree with a guy just because he writes a shitty TV show and agrees with right wing douche bags.
Hilary would be a shitty president.
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SO LUCY, SPLAIN TO ME WHY WE GIVE A DAMN WHO THEY LIKE... shouldn't we listen to them and choose for ourselves
...AMERICAN IDLE chooses Fred... because he is an american and he is idle
this is the same nut who killed the first black president in the story. So I am afraid to ask how he feels about Obama!?
So where are the conservative outcries that Hollywoodies are all liberals and shouldn't be allowed to express a political opinion?
Seriously, does anyone give a rats ass what a celebrity thinks about anything? I just consider them a necessary evil. They're great at attracting money for politicians. It's a symbiotic relationship. The celebrity craves respectability, and the politicans craves money and attention.
Funny thing is when was politics ever a respectable profession?
The minute I heard that there would be a woman president on the next season and taking into consideration the political bias of the creator, I already started making bets that the female president would be a thinly veiled Hillary Clinton clone and would be depicted as either a diabolical shrew behind the evil (or foolishly assisting it in some way) or an incompetent, easily manipulated boob. Either way, I have sincere doubts that she will be depicted with the honorable, even-handed treatment given President David Palmer on the show. I am no fan of Hillary Clinton, but the constant hatchet jobs on her in the MSM, while Rudy, Mitt, Huckabee, et al., get free passes is really wearisome. I used to like 24 as an escapist action show, but I don't believe I can ever look at it the same way again since so many of the Republican nominees for president actually seem to confuse it with real life. The fear-mongering "what would you do" questions thrown at them at debates that loosely mirrored 24 plots were almost laughable were it not greeted by them with the utmost solemnity. How ludicrous that they come off as little boys who want to grow up to be Jack Bauer?! I can see Rudy in debates with Hillary now, once again confusing TV with reality..."And as we saw last night on TV, Madame President just does not have the backbone to lead this country..." The sad part is the ignoramuses that will buy into the scenario and take this assurance to the voting booth.
andy @ 10:
Pray tell what are you basing those assumptions on, what speech has she given saying that she wants to bomb Iran,? It hasn't happened, its just you acting like a true republican, may I ask are you also GAY most of them are, do you ask for sex in mens bathrooms? most of them do.
Perhaps you are a pimp or a whore gay man yourself. How does it feel to have it thrown back in your ugly face? Thats how you sound, just plain awful.
You are even beginning to sound a lot like CHRIS Mathews and Tim Russett. Like the liars that they are.
So the 24 creator is saying Hillary has more nuts than he?
I'd bet that the creator of "24" and I are about as ideologically different as two people can be, but I agree with him on not wanting Hillary in office, though for different reasons. She will be another link in the Neo-Con chain, furthering the causes of corporations and American Aristocracy and ignoring the American citizens. Don't fall for her shit, she's bad news.
Does she come with chocolate swirls too?
I'm tired of Clinton haters. She's going to be a competent, dare I say GOOD President.
And they'll hate her for it.
Of course the neocons can't imagine someone like Hillary being president.
After all, she's a reader.
Yar. It's similar to how our opinions/posts don't make any difference, but we post them anyway.
But yes, this article screams "who gives a flying f*ck"! No offense meant to the author.
Will Conyers be Hillary's Attorney General?
I smell impeachments!
I'm no wing nut but yes you people are fucking crazy if you think Hillary will get elected. And guess what. The republican coat tails from her devastating loss will lose dems the house and senate too. Just as well they have done nothing but squander the 2006 win.
ron paul is bs. He is all lip service.
The "24" creator is a thug. Yep he is lush limpballs best friend. One thug to another.
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