Gloria Borger: CIA Leak a Technicality 'Nobody Cares Anymore' Wait for Bush's Memoir for the Truth
By Bill W. Wednesday Nov 21, 2007 9:02pm
CNN's round-table on the new revelations and clarifications coming from Scotty McClellan's book publisher really exposed Gloria Borger's egregious White House shillery for what it is.
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Gloria thinks that because "nobody wants to see the President accused of lying" over a leak that was really just a "technicality" anyway that we ought to just wait until Bush writes his memoir to find out the truth (I'm so not kidding. I wish I were) about whatever happened because really "nobody cares anymore." Thank heavens we had Jack Cafferty to help set the conversation straight.
Suzanne Malveaux: Jack, let's start with you. With a bombshell accusation like this, what does it say about the administration?
Jack Cafferty: Well, a couple of things occur to me. The first one is, whoever is doing the PR for McClellan's book ought to get a raise, because he's doing a masterful of creating buzz and interest in a book that won't even be out until next April. The second thing is, it doesn't really seem to me like it's breaking news that the administration, the White House, may have misled one of their own about something. After all, they've been lying to the rest of the country about a whole bunch of stuff for the better part of six and a half years. You remember when the story broke about the CIA agent and President Bush said I will fire anybody in the White House who was involved in compromising the identity of a CIA agent? Well, that was a lie wasn't it? Because Karl Rove and Scooter Libby and some of those folks, they were up to their armpits in the compromising of Valerie Plame's identity. so the President changed and he said I will fire anybody who is convicted of committing a crime in conjunction with the outing of a C... So I mean that place has turned into an oil slick a long time ago and I don't believe a whole bunch of anything that comes out of there these days. ... [snip]
Suzanne Malveaux: Gloria, how's this going to be perceived by the White House? Who's the potential fall guy in all of this?
Gloria Borger: Well, they are not happy obviously because nobody wants to see the President accused of lying and I think the key word to look at here which everybody seems to be throwing around is "knowingly." I did not "knowingly" tell somebody a falsehood. If the President actually told Scott McClellan that nobody in the White House had leaked Valerie Plame's name, that is probably what the Vice President, what the President was told. I agree with John. The question is who told the President that? Was it the Vice President? And we know how close the vice President was to Scooter Libby. And did Karl Rove technically leak Valerie Plame's name or did he say to the Time correspondent when the Time correspondent raised it, said Yeah, I heard that.' Is that technically leaking her name? Maybe not. I think this whole thing is a bunch of technicalities right now and by the way, I agree with you Jack this is a big publicity stunt because really nobody cares anymore.
Cafferty: Well I care, and I'll tell you why I care. George Bush is the President of the United States and this idea that he was somehow victimized by his own people, he didn't know what was going on. He's the President. This was a huge story at the time.
Borger: But what if he's lied to Jack? What if somebody lied to the President?
Cafferty: Excuse me. Excuse me. The buck stops at the oval office. He's in charge. It's up to him to find out who's telling the truth and who isn't. It's up to him to tell the American people what went on in his White House. It's his, it's his White House. It's his White House.
Borger: I think we'll hear that in his memoir. I think when he writes his memoir, when he writes his memoir maybe we'll get to the bottom of it.
Cafferty: I'd like to hear it now. No, I'd like to hear it now. There might still be time to impeach him.
Borger: I would to. I'd like to hear it.
Malveaux: Should we wait for the memoirs? Does anybody believe the President should jump in now, or the next 15 months?
Cafferty: No. How about the American public be told what the chief executive office of the United States government is up to? How about if we were told the truth? Wouldn't that be a switch?
Yes Jack, it would be.
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There might still be time to impeach him.
Good on Cafferty for saying that.
Wait....Dubya can write?
I am speechless....
The media is complicit in both the domestic crimes and international crimes of the Bush-Cheney administration....
People like Gloria Borger and other media accomplices of the crimes committed by the Bush administration are derserving of being put on trial for their helping the government commit and cover-up these awful crimes against the peace of the world and humanity.
The media is good for nothing at this point. And I mean nothing. They are a bunch of whores and stenographers who have minds like zombies.
Tell Pelosi to get a grip and put the Kucinich Impeachment bii HR 333 back on the table and out of judiciary, Impeach now.
The fact that Borger seems to think that "nobody cares" (wrong!) about a "technicality" (wrong!) or that Bush would be any more likely to be truthful in his memoirs than he's been over (at least) the past 7 years (wrong!) should disqualify her from any further punditry. Period. Jeezus, what an idiot.
Impeach Now!
“nobody wants to see the President accused of lying”
I do, a thousand times a day
McClelland, the pussie, doesn't want to implicate Bush... SO IMPEACH THE VICE PRESIDENT! He's the real SKUNK in the yard!
Mr. XXXX at #3 above sez "... the media is complicit..."
Yer DAMNED RIGHT THEY ARE! Media people like Jack Cafferty and Keith Olbermann are deserving of Medals of Freedom... FOR PROTECTING OUR MOST CHERISHED RIGHT... which is the freedom to speak your mind freely without fear of retaliation or punishment. God Bless those few.
It is time to start holding journalists accountable for the war crimes and domestic law breaking of the Bush-Cheney administration and not allow them any "journalistic" legitimacy if they continue on their deliberate and direct misinformation campaigns of trying to deceive the American people of their ethical duties to be the watchdogs of democracy.
If journalists want to be part of the political establishment rather than honest analysts about policies and crimes committed, then its time to ask for these "journalists" to be held for trial for the crimes of the United States government. If "journalists" want to continue to be an extension of the Bush-Cheney administration then they have no right to claim their constitutional exemption of "freedom of the press" as long as they subvert the truth and continue deliberately to confuse and misinform the public.
"Journalists" who knowingly falsify the truth in favor of pushing government propaganda do not deserve to be called bonafide journalists whatsoever, but, definitely have earned their right to be called propagandists and crooks.
Gloria Borger has just attempted to misinform the public at-large in what is known as the "manfacture of consent" in a direct attempt to confuse and misinform the public. Borger is ethically no better than the criminals inside the Bush-Cheney administration who leaked the name of Valerie Plame Wilson to Robert Novak.
It amazing that only cable news has any discussion on this story. It hasn't even been mentioned on network news. On the contrary sycophants like Charlie Gibson are conducting PR offensives for Bush and company.
I think Senator Dodd has it right. A trust in the president is gone and an investigation is necessary. Trust is absolutely fundamental. Nothing, NOTHING operates properly without trust. This is a factor that Bush and Cheney understand only to use in a political and criminal way. They do not understand what trust really is. They don't understand that honoring trust the people have in their president is an act of love of country and honor of their positions. Bush and Cheney do not understand that even though I did not vote for them and still consider them to have stolen the presidency, I must trust their honor towards country. AND I CAN'T. I must trust the acts as being for the good of the people. AND I CAN'T. And therefore I have lost the trust of the presidency itself. The position has been sullied. It has been bought and sold.
Impeach him now! If the democrats don't have the huevos to follow protocol, lets vote them out too.
nobody wants to see the President accused of lying
Didn't seem to bother any of these yoyos when Bill Clinton was being branded a liar nearly every day of his presidency by these misfits.
Wait for his self serving memoirs that some hack will write for him?
Like we should believe a goddamn thing in his memoirs? Are you fucking kidding me?
Guys - when I see this type of systematic mainstream-media apologizing for the Bush elites, I immediately think of one thing.. Allen Dulles and Operation Mockingbird.
Go look that operation up online - basically a massive US govt operation to penetrate deep into the most influential sectors of the media and control the message from within.
I think after Vietnam and the media's contribution to helping show the truth [after a decade of doing nothing of course], no govt would ever risk NOT controlling / embedding 'their guys' into the debate via television networks.
I literaly cannot watch this without thinking of Dulles and all those scary quotes associated with just how successful that operation was [and likely still is].
Imagine if Jack had Wolf Blitzer's job - wow what a difference.
[wolf blitzer was a lobbyist for the all-powerful Jewish lobby AIPAC by the way - guess we won't be hearing about Israel's illegal occupation much then will we!]
For my money, both Borger and Malveaux are shilling for bush. And I cannot comprehend why - unless their jobs are at risk if they don't. As a matter of fact, Malveaux has been much more visible and "important a shill" since shrub was "re-elected".
As for a bush memoir, HA! This is the gang that said "we make our own reality, and when you are challenging that reality, we are onto another" (or some such thing). Why would anyone bother to read an account of this administration from the viewpoint of bush? If he had no respect for the truth when he was in school, or when he was involved in Harken Oil or Arbusto Oil, why would he be interested in the truth now. Read "Fortunate Son". There has been no respect for truth in the history of his entire family. Even the story of his father's "heroism" is a fantasy.
As for Gloria and Suzanne (originally pronounced Suzanne not Suzahn when she started out), Let them eat cake. Cafferty is the truthteller here.
Who the hell is Gloria Bolger?
No matter who writes it, we will never know the absolute truth about this administration.
abart,
There are some absolute truths about this administration. They can't be trusted. That we do know. They act with their own interests in mind. That we do know. They think they are above the law and the laws that might get them in trouble they try to change. We know that too.
Knowing those three things keeps you one step ahead of their trying to outwit you. The problem is we can't stop them. The checks and balances have failed.
Bolger is the idiot after that last debate that said some stupid crap that made me scream at the TV. She and Suzanne are two of the dumbest people on TV. I remember an audience person asking a question and then Suzanne said some crap and asked another question, I wondered 'what happened to the audience question and why is Suzanne inserting herself into this like that'. CNN I give up, the debate was idiotic and the analysis was terrible. Bolger, who the hell is she and what are her credentials? Oh, I just saw Anderson Cooper yukking it up with that racist Beck. CNN no more.
I can already see it now:
"Mr. President, in your memoirs you state that..."
"Sorry, i have no knowledge of that, I have not read them yet."
these authoritarian cultists will do anything to please their blackshirted master
This is not the 1st time that Jack Cafferty has put Borger in her place. Prior to the last Dem "debate", on the pre-debate show, Borger tried to sell the line that the debate is all about "leadership". Jack wasted no time and I paraphrase, "That's a joke, this is not about leadership, this is about (inserted litany of National Crises War, Debt, Civil Liberties etc.). Even AIPAC's Wolf Blitzer was stunned. It seemed like a couple of seconds before he picked up the dead air.
I don't always agree with Jack, but I love the Old Curmudgeon. I think he cares about his Journalistic Integrity.
Peace.
xoites defends Constitution @ 21:
ROFLOLw/KFIA!
Who'd have thought Jack Cafferty would be
today's Edward R. Murrow? (With Keith).
I watched him do local years ago.
He grew balls.
Borger is a paid Beltway type like Tweety, Timmeh & Broder.
jr @ 22:
They are obviously Facists who yearn not only for a Facist America but hope to be on board the ruling dictatorship and get a nice job.
You know, I'm kinda curious about what Bolger's credentials are too. Some of the statements these so called journalists make are so bias and just too ridiculous for words. Who covers for a man who has literally damaged the position of president? Who honors somebody like that? I mean you can do it if you're sitting on a bar stool in the local tavern but if you're on the air the integrity of that position should be honored. Everything is bought and sold in this country. There is no honor.
Jeanne @ 27:
It's Borger
Jeanne @ 27:
No, there is honor in this country. There just is not much in the Corporate Media. Look around this site, it is full of honorable people such as yourself.
Can you imagine if, in 1960, someone said, "BTW, Person X is a US intel operative who created intel networks in Eastern Europe?" Their trial would have been bigger than Ronserberg.
Cafferty just gave that lady a bitch slap of the highest order. "Who cares", "I CARE!! That's who!".
The impeachment line was just brilliant. The line of Dubya "writing a memoir" was as lame as Rush Limbaugh's dick.
Truly Equal @ 31:
He has genitals?
xoites defends Constitution @ 32:
He does, just very small, non-functioning ones, exactly what happens when someone is very, very fat and takes lots and lots of pain killers. Being an idiot doesn't help of course.
The MSM needs to understand that there is no statute of limitations on treason.
Truly Equal @ 33:
As long as they are non functioning, i was worried about offspring there for a moment.
Coffins draped in flags @ 34:
And realy no limit on the penalty for it either.
I'm thankful for Jack Cafferty!
Friends,....I know I'm probably going to get mauled for saying this so I hope I can say it correctly without appearing like I condone Borger's point of view. Rest assured I despise this administration no little bit so I ask for your patience and hear me out. In some ways I do agree with Borger particularly her comment about nobody cares. Now, what is absolute and unequivocal nonsense is the idea that she could use that as an excuse to condone bush's reprehensible actions to date! In that regard she is absolutely full of shit and I hope she gets squashed by a garbage truck (I don't do PC---remember?). However, when she says that "...nobody cares anymore..." I'm hard pressed to disagree. I took it to mean she was describing the state of apathy in america today and we cannot deny that there is apathy otherwise how the hell else can the Cheney gang get away with all the bullshit to date? Seriously, think about that. Not one slimy piece-of-shit bush accomplice from Gonzo to Rove to Libby and yes, to McClellan and Snow has been held accountable! The so-called Democratic-majority Senate is as effective and competent as a box of hair! We here at C&L represent a very small minority of people who do care but again---we are the minority! Gloria may be a nothing more than an occasional sperm receptacle with a penile speech impediment but she's right about 'nobody cares'. I also hate the fact that she can be so fucking smug about that, too!
SpankyTheMonkey @ 38:
If nobody cares it is only because people are being told nobody cares, that makes people give up. I remember when i discovered Democracy Now! so many years ago that i realized i was not alone. A lot of people out there do care but are isolated from others who care.
You can plant a tree but it needs encouragement and watering to grow. You can't birth a child and walk away and expect to come back in a few years and find it thriving. The Corporate Media is killing common sense and compasion on the vine everyday. It is up to us who have the support of each other and others to reach out to all those people who feel alone in their frustration and anger and let them know they are not alone.
hot damn!!!....this scandal has a life of it's own......and that's a good thing.Spanky....I care.I want to see reporters lock onto this like a crazed pitbull.and not let go until the bleeding stops.
noonan @ 37:
me too....this made my day.
free manuretv round-table: “nobody wants to see the President accused of lying”
And I wonder what Edward R. Murrow is saying in his grave.
Bil Biloxi @ 42:
"Shit! I'm DEAD!"
well there's the first attempt at spinning....."Nobody Cares"..........wrong! I guess they were thinking,Lets try it out over the holiday.....cause if it doesn't work....nobody will notice.
mudshark @ 44:
"Nobody Cares!" is going to be the biggest lie we hear for several days. The fact is we do and all the "poo pooing" on Earth isn't going to change that. As soon as it is apparent we DO CARE they will pull out their "She really wasn't covert" bullshit again.
Bil Biloxi @ 42:
With whats been going on with MSM News & journalism these days, Murrow is not just spinning in his grave, he's trying to dig his way out... just so he can jump off the nearest cliff.
Coffins draped in flags @ 34:
If the Dems bring back the fairness-doctrine in 2009, they should also go after the MSM for treason. Without the help of these corporate-fascist Orwellean MSM bastards, Turd-Blossoms imbecile would have never been "selected" in the first place.
NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 47:
I think there is a very strong argument for that. If there isn't then we need to formulate one. Freedom of the press is one thing, and i am fully behind it. Freedom to lie and decieve a nation into war is not in the Constitution anywhere!
For at least ten years I have been convinced that Gloria Borger is the incomparable voice of conventional wisdom who also happens to be dumb as dirt. It's all neatly summed up in the vision of her sitting patiently waiting for Bush to write his memoirs to discover the truth. Fine, I say, but keep her off the air in the meantime.
One can hope that Gloria Borger drowns in her own vomit.
Gloria Borger tells us to wait for Bush's memoire? Like that fucker is going to admit to what he knew and did?
Besides, I don't think there's enough "lite-brite" left in the world for Bush to write a book!
and by the way, I agree with you Jack this is a big publicity stunt because really nobody cares anymore.
Yeah, she moves right from "By the way I agree with you Jack" - to "nobody cares anymore" ?? Jack never said anything remotely close to "nobody cares." What a propagandist, and not very good at it.
Didnt Borger a couple years ago bust Cheney lying about something he had previously said, and Jon Stewart had a field day with it, running the clips over and over?
Bil Biloxi @ 42:
Actually, Murrow was cremated...still, those ashes must be smoldering!
At the risk of sounding like a right wing name caller, here goes I do think the following is accurate however.
Gloria Borger is a boot-licking, power worshiping, despicable ______________ .
"whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."
Outing Plame, who worked on weapons proliferation in IRAN, "gives aid to" Iran (axis of evil "enemy") in Iran ["elsewhere"]...
Sounds like "guilty of treason and shall suffer death..." Maybe Bush should hang from the same gallows that Saddam hung from!
Nobody cares about Osama Bin Laden anymore. Let's wait for his memoirs to come out to learn the truth.
Weaseldog @ 56:
Too true!
"CIA Leak a Technicality"....
Wow...that is some statement....
We'll never know the true extent of the direct and indirect damage this whole CIA leak has caused...
Yet I still wonder how many people and their families that were put in direct danger of being exposed in regard to the network that Valerie Plame Wilson had worked with within the CIA and their counterparts overseas...
ticktock @ 58:
And Bob Novak is a technicality as well...
Borger isn't paying attention to Bush's own words---or does remember them but want us to forget them. He committed himself to finding out the leaker. To do this required demanding the truth from the senior administration officials, as he himself stated. He did not do that, always instead passing the buck to the DOJ investigation. The reason he did not can only be that he didn't want to, because there are just a couple dozen senior officials in any administration, and they are all immediately responsible to the President who also has practical control over them. Anyone who know the White House knows that a demand by the President for response in this kind of situation is inescapable, since they all serve at his pleasure. There is very little more frightening to a top political bureaucrat than an angry Chief Executive.
This points to one of the features of press coverage of this that has been little noticed. In his statement promising to "get to the bottom" of the Plame leak, Bush said that the leaker had to be a senior administration official but that there are "a lot" of them. This is baloney, & any White House reporter, & as well as most other national political reporter, knows that. They also know how the President exercises power in his administration. Every reporter who did not call bullshit on this was either asleep, pandering to Rove, or a partisan Republican. Since Borger and her colleagues in this dereliction are not stupid, they are therefore liars.
When did treason become a "technicality?" Someone needs to shred this Gloria a new one, big time.
Bury Bush with his memoires.
He'll need a trial first, but given the massive evidence of treason and warcrimes (genocide and lesser crimes), he is a Dead Man Walking.
Gloria Borger should be force-fed his memoires while having to stand on one foot in a cold room naked. It's the kind of treatment such complicit liars understand.
Ya right Borger we'll wait years for some fictitious memoir for the ' Truth" , because poor George just didn't have anyyyyy idea that somebody leaked the name of Valerie Plame and we'll pretend there was NO meeting between Bush ; Cheney; Madalin ; Card discussing the biggest issue of the day, the credibility of Bush's Assertion that Saddam was in the process of making a nuke and how it was shown there was no Yellow cake , there was no nuke program and J Wilson was 100 % correct .
I almost fell out of my chair listening to this apologist and sycophant Gloria Borger spin some convoluted Tale how bush " may have been lied to " , we'll then cupcake he should of FIRED somebody , which HE DID NOT !
Looks like she attended the same journalism school as Robert Novak . Make sh it up as you go along and the " nobody doesn't care anymore " is such a nonsensical comment its ridiculous , unless there is a large segment of society , you just give a damn about , in your arrogant dismissive ass .
Looks like CNN is full of potential recruits for Fox Noise and the fact of the matter if it weren't for Cafferty ( who gets the LEAST time ) of the four , you wouldn't hear any truth, just apologists for the White House . Ive never trusted CNN any more than Fox, it's propaganda wrapped in a different package .
"Hoew I did et. If I ded et." - By George Bush
"wat you hafta under stand is that theer R evil dewers. I had tu doo them."
"The End"
Kahoneez @ 63:
"Looks Like." CNN is ahead of Fox Noise and so is MSNBC. CNN long traded their serious reputation away for conservative viewer-ship about 4 years ago. We may be up to are neck in a news credibility problem that might seriously put in doubt very important election events.
I hope like hell these crooks don't decide to rig the next election. With the proper spin, they can place another Republican in office who was not voted for. They have done it before. Our nation's power balance is in need of corrective balance. If not, another stolen election could be the start of this nation's first dictatorship. The Republicans are at the core of our governmental system. If they could move in and take it over, they would in a heart beat.
The media are the Conservatives lab dogs, and most Americans seem blind to the fact. Kahoneez is absolutely right. Without the representation of few truth tellers, most of what we hear is spin. It would be Republican misleading spin, which always has an ulterior motive to it. I sometime question the true motives of the "few" who do work for the right-wing lying machine. Could they just being paying patronage to a sense of being fair and balanced, when all along, they bring more "fresh meat" to the propaganda fest generated by their cohorts?
As America turns the corner past the primaries into the general election, you can look for "full court press" from the right-wing media lab dogs. Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer already seem to be in their bias grove. Hell, CNN have been putting "feelers" out to see if this country would elect Lou, I hate immigrants, Dobbs. We can only stand so much. We should be pushing for media oversight as much as we wanted oversight for this administration. I hope the worse will not come.
Joseph
People like Gloria Borger are the reason the country is in such a mess. They're all "who cares?" and "wait and see", while the country is being hijacked. She needs a good smack in the head. So does that other woman.
I can't recall.
Gloria Borger husband, Lance Morgan, is a communications strategist for Powell Tate. The strategy of "lying to the American people makes you rich" is not lost on Gloria. Paid liars like Borger have whored themselves in front the public for too long. The putrid scum that drips from her lips is the same stuff that is splattered on the walls of an airport men's room.
"...nobody wants to see the President accused of lying..." about his knowledge of a plot to out a covert CIA agent.
Is that really the issue, Borger? An American might think that the real shame of it would rest in the scandal of the president lying, not in the sudden, indignant intake of breath that might accompany the accusation. Heavens, they said something rude about his majesty the president!
"...nobody cares..." about an American president committing high treason.
Clearly Gloria Borger doesn't care and is trying to help pooh-pooh these grave crimes, but patriotic Americans do give a shit about their president lying about WMD's and outing CIA agents whose husbands expose the lies.
If journalists as a class prized the truth, accuracy and the like, they'd drum her out. How painfully lapdog of her.
"Borger: But what if he’s lied to Jack? What if somebody lied to the President?"
Oh yes, what if? We certainly can't expect the preznit to know everything. He can't be responsible for the people he surrounds himself with, or for their actions. And we all know that he's.. well let's just say he's just not all there, so it would be ridiculous to expect him to act like, well like the President of the United Sates. Because a real President would have very quickly found the person who was lying to him and fired him. A real President would have followed through on his promise to uphold the laws of the country and would have such a person prosecuted to the fullest extent. But we all know this is just a shattered shell of a human that can't put two words together without losing his train of thought. Lord knows if it weren't for the Haloperidol, and Percocet and the Benzedrine this preznit couldn't even stand for 5 minutes let alone mumble the semi English sentences he can. Hell, one time in China when he missed his meds for 2 hours, he was found crawling around on all fours drinking out of the toilet. So you can't hold him accountable for anything.
We should just wait until he has paid a team of writers to create his memoirs and then we can all sit around the fire and laugh our asses off at the what they come up with.
If GW was to fall in the woods, and nobody heard it, would he know?
Treason just a technicality. Slipping further and further into dictatorship. I don't mind calling Bush a liar. HE IS A LIAR. Along with everyone else in his administration. The only people who don't want to call him a liar and the Bushbots. He is a LIAR. A GOD DAMNED LIAR.
LIAR LIAR LIAR.
Suck on it Gloria!!!! It's only national security we're talking about here. She was only working on finding out the TRUTH about the nuclear program in IRAN!!!! But this administration isn't interested in the TRUTH. They just want to catapult the propaganda. That's LIES Gloria!!!! THEY ARE LYING AGAIN. But I guess that is just another technicality.
Gloria, everything is just a technicality. The Constitution, seperation of powers, treason, habeaus corpus, the bill of rights. They are all just technicalities and should not get in the way of Bush's wet dream of a dictatorship.
Gloria" I've got my nose up Bush's ass" Borger should have her butt kicked over the moon, what a worthless tool. CNN really scraped the bottom of the barrel when they brought that Republican implant onto the scene.
Anyone else having trouble playing the file??
NEVER forget that Plame's Brewster-Jennings was the true target of the outing. The Wilson smear angle is all Rovian mis-direction and spin. It originated from the White house so is it to be believed? Hell no. Did it ever smear wilson, no. Wilson was sent by cheney to set up the whole deception and EXCUSE.
Bush/Cheney wanted ethical Plame out of there (mid-east) so she wouldn't dispute their Iranian war lies when the time came (now that is).
NEVER loose site that the destruction of Brewster Jennings was TREASON. Valuable sources were lost, people and operatives were killed as a result etc.
Good intelligence is the Bush Administrations worst enemy and that's why they wanted Plame's covert company gone. Why would they risk treason to smear wilson? That whole smear angle is so lame if you research it and look at it. Sy Hersh has some good sources on it.
Maybe folks could expose the spin of the Smear BS and focus on the destruction of Brewster-Jennings a covert front company that took decades to set-up and millions of our tax dollars to support.
Regardless of the 'reason' for the outing the end result was the same TREASON. Destruction of a covert intelligence operation, not just one woman.
Gloria Borger is more interested in being loyal to Bush, & the neocon agenda, then the Constitution that our nation was founded on. She is very opened, & unashamed about being a fascist & neocon political whore.
Gloria Bolger suggested that Bush was not to blame because he was lied to.
Fine - who lied to him and when was he/she fired, arrested, and charged with a crime? I assume it's a high crime to intentionally misinform the President about such dire matters....especially during a time of war.
Gloria Bolger is nothing but a shill for the rich and powerful. Zero integrity.
Whitehouse @ 74:
Yes, Windows. Try downloading the QT file; it worked for me.
she's already trying to sell booshs memoirs.....as it there would be anything truthfull in it.next
Bless you Jack Cafferty. One of the few shining lights at CNN.
Borger is another dumbass know nothing who mouths bullshit. I'm happy somebody watches these shows because personally it's like watching a bunch of monkeys in a zoo.
I wonder if Borger is an Anligicization of Borgia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucrezia_Borgia
"Lucrezia" would be a good name for that pinhead.
I care that the lot of them aren't in JAIL for their treason yet.
But since there is no statute of limitations on that particular crime, believe me, there WILL be a day of reckoning when the law catches up to them. Either American law, International law, or Nature's law.
Personally, I'd recommend they suck it up and take the American prison time. It'll be a helluva lot less painful than if karma gets ahold of them.
(Picture several lifetimes as a dung beetle crawling up an elephant's ass. Ok, that's not too different from their current life, I realize, but chances of them getting squished are also much better.)
Not to defend Borger for her outrageous comments, but she was asked, "how the White House is going to perceive this," so maybe her answer that, "nobody wants to see the President accused of lying," refers to those in the Whitehouse, not the country at large. Or maybe, she really is that dumb...
Jack Cafferty for President !! \(*o*)/ Jack Cafferty for President!! \(^O^)/ Ladies and Gentlemen ! The next President of the United States !! Jack Cafferty !! \(^0^)/ \(`o')/
Let's title Bush's "memoirs" "Sociopaths in the Whitehouse".
They brought the country to a standstill over a president who committed adultery, but when it comes to TREASON "nobody cares"???
People need to use that word Treason a little more. "its just a technicality" "yes, technically, outing a covert agent is an act of TREASON" Lying to congress is TREASON. Its against the law just like drunk driving, or murder and if you do it you are subject to prosecution even if you are the president.
Im sure jack Cafferty would say it better than me, but oh how I would love to hear him say it.
Are you guys aware that Cafferty and Olbermann are what causes O'Liarly to label CNN and MSNBC 'far left', even though everyone else on those two channels are 'right' or lean that way. Or maybe it's just an indication how far to the right O'Liarly is that those in the 'center' appear 'left' to him and those on the left are either 'far left' or 'extreme left fringe'
I want to see the President accused of lying... so what's she talking about nobody cares?!
just me @ 84:
Yep, she really is that dumb...
Impeach Bush and his entire administration....The President is a liar and traitor...conspiring to out a CIA agent working on Weapons Of Mass Destruction is a criminal offense!!!
Hey, "Life's A Bitch...and Bush is still President"
Liar, Cheater, Traitor, Thief...which one is Bush??
I like Jack--he may be my favorite Republican and the only voice of reason on CNN.
- Tom
MHealy @ 7:
Nobody wants to see the President accused of lying? What the hell. The American president is not an elected monarch, a religious figure, or God's mortal representative on Earth. He's supposed to be "the first among equals," nothing more or less, who is held to the same standard as the guy behind the 7-11 counter.
screech @ 13:
That's because Clinton was lying about sex, which the neocons believe is worse than lying about the facts that prompted a pre-emptive war and lying about outing a covert CIA agent. Makes complete sense in Bushland.
Thank god people like Gloria Borger and Katie Couric are out there on the liberal media telling us what we care and don't care about anymore.
Frybread @ 96:
Well, obviously given the massive inferiority complex about their sexual capabilities, it is no wonder that the neo-cons have a consensual sexual encounter at the top of their list of outrageous behavior.
Never underestimate what sexual frustrated people are capable of, I am sure Freud would have a field day with the current bunch in power: Obsessed over a blow job and hell bent on starting a war just to get their rocks off.
Also, it was very disturbing to observe during the initial stages of the war to see the Faux news et al neo-con pundit crew to get all giddy like a school girl whenever they were interviewing one of those handsome strong manly marines. I am sure that a lot of the neo-cons actually masturbate while watching the military channel. It is to say it mildly, quite disturbing the psycho sexual deviation expressed by these assholes.
Gloria got a much needed bitch slap..............she is a right winger in the teething process...
George Bush is a war criminal who should be impeached.
James Izzard
Is Gloria technically a douche bag? Why yes she is!
Jack was a conservative until the know-nothings forced him back into his mind
and tear his hair out. I still have my hair but i was leaning right
conservative until reality started to have a liberal bias again around 1998 when
Cheney picked Bush to be his messenger boy.
Bush's memoirs will make "A Million Little Pieces," look like the Bible.
Bush is sooooo skilled at making people think that he is so stupid and inept that he cannot possibly be held responsible for his actions, bad actions - and inactions.
Supposedly (according to Dr. Robert Hare who wrote THE book on Psychopathology) the universal symptom that points to a psychopath is the ability to make people feel sorry for him and to easily deflect "blame."
Plame was not covert FYI.
BG @ 104:
Apparently the Director of the CIA disaggrees with you.
http://instaputz.blogspot.com/2007/03/death-of-two-wingnut-talking-point...
Remember, at the end of WWII, Nazi collaborators were rounded up and their heads were shaved to identify them to the public at large. Many of them suffered a horrendous and shameful fate at the hands of an outraged citizenry. I propose we consider this when this regime is finally over. Bolger, Coulter, Novak and most of the MSM would be anchoring in rugs for a while......if they survived.
Bolger is a Conservative Under Neocon Training.
Cheney will ghost-write Dubya's memoirs.
It will be titled: "My Life As A Pet Goat"
Sure George didn't know, like I don't have any idea what goes on my house or at my office. FLMAO!
ronhohn @ 88:
Give me a break, Benito Mussolini was left of O'Reilly
Don @ 85:
Can't. He was born in Canada.
Jack Cafferty certainly is looking more and more like a hero. Good for him! Finally someone who will push back publicly. He looked and sounded fearless, not at all timid, in letting Borger know where their opinions diverge. Nobody cares anymore indeed!
Bill Clinton would have been impeached ten times by now by the party that claims to have cornered the market on Jesus, but we Democrats just keep turning the other cheek. Where is the outrage? The action? I know, I know, impeaching this idiot right now would suggest that we aren't patriots and are on the terrorists' side--because no doubt, that's what Fox Noise would undoubtedly scream. Seems we have no recourse but to stay the course--until election day.
bush's memoirs... that's a good one;
"Well, my first big failure as an adult was not being able to fly F-4's, so I went AWOL and daddy made it all go away(heh heh!) Then let's see... there were the three failed businesses, then, oh yeah! Daddy imposing a special tax on the city of Arlington Texas so I could make some money on mah baseball team(heh-heh!) The 2000 election where I was APPOINTED President of the United States, the 911 thing, the Chimpy McFlightsuit mistake, the "Bring it on" misstep, the "Crusade" faux pas, and... OH YEAH! That I-RAK thing(heh-heh!) Yep, these are my greatest failures!! (heh-heh!)"
Should make for FASCINATING reading...
I have no idea who Borger is and I don't care. But what she is saying is pure apologist, nonsense and lies. The public does care a great deal about this as Cafferty points out.
Nobody cares eh?
I care. I'm an American citizen. Gloria Borger can go fuck herself.
IMPEACH THE BASTARDS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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