December 16, 2007 11:30 PM
Open Thread
From another new source for entertainment on the web, but "teh cool" quotient for this one is fairly high: MyDamnChannel has Harry Shearer and Don Was. And it's nice to see Presidential candidates actually saying nothing (as opposed to saying nothing while pretending to say something) for once.
[I apologize for the embedded ad at the bottom, but at least the viewer can close it. ]




Was Not Was
How annoying I couldn't watch or access the Clinton v Romney debate, but I did get a load of the Biden/Thompson face-off.
One thing I learned was Fred KNOWS how to hold his face still in front of a camera; Biden does not.
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miss_kitty @ 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNRsIFKLDBk
"Someone told me the energy bill passed. So do kidney stones." - Mike Malloy
Yawn.
I think there's this Country song, main line goes like "You say it best when you say nothing at all" ...
Looks like they are about to remove the cork from the elephant's ass:
DoJ no-show in 4, 3, 2, ...
could you repost this?
http://www.crooksandliars.com/index.php?s=Celine+Dion+Larry+King
A new type of Katrina hits the Midwest in the form of an ice storm.
miss_kitty @ 2:
It helps if you are dead.
9iu11iani/Thompson 2058: Zombie Party Rising!
leaves me speechless
This is probably the worst post I've ever seen on the otherwise great C & L. What were you thinking?
I was thinking of getting my own blog, but then I remembered I've had one for three years. How 'bout you? Do some good writing, send me a link and I'll pimp it. - BG
Great stuff. Love Harry. Check out le Show every Sunday on many NPR stations.
And hey, don't apologize for the ad...it pays for the content. Its a good thing.
And "Cameron"...The lost and found called....They have your sense of humor.
Funny at first, goes on wayyyyy too long.
What an all together fascinating debate, I think this is the first time that both candidates were clearly able to articulate strongly their viewpoints on many of to-days important issues.
Clinton/Romney-08 :twisted:
"Silence is golden, but my eyes can see"
I love Harry Shearer!
This old news? (don't have T.V.) Next episode of The Simpson's supposed to have Jon Stewart as himself (Dan Rather too).
ummmm...
Isn't this a stupid as that show Fox had on claiming it to be political comedy or satire...or whatever?
I stopped watching after the first question. As someone else here said..."yawn." If this is the best you could find on "MyDamnChannel" then I'm glad you posted it -- it gave me a heads up to avoid it completely.
"unspoken words were understood" - Red Hots
Stanley Rosenthal @ 7:
Great song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bNfay6HiUo
I am a big fan of science and this story (see below) is a follow up to a story that I had noticed earlier regarding a comparison between monkeys and humans short term memory. Apparently, a monkey's mental mathematics skills are just as good as those of college age humans when language is removed. Choke another one up to evolution.
Monkeys and college students as good at mental math
"It shows when you take language away from a human, they end up looking just like monkeys in terms of their performance," Cantlon said in a telephone interview."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071218/sc_nm/chimps_math_dc
abdiel @ 20:
Hey, "abdiel" there a reruns of Hee Haw over on the Country Music Channel. Now that's funny. Maroon.
Simon and Garfunkle: Sound of Silence -
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eZGWQauQOAQ
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Is everyone paying attention:
The Battle of the 21st Century begins
Alpha Dogs
You cannot go into battle unprepared Democrats: who are you fighting?
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Had to [clarify] one thing, but check this out:
http://counterterrorismblog.org/mt/pings.cgi/4684
Joe O. @ 23:
And bananas are added.
Well.... the novelty of that wore off pretty quickly.
(There's 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back.)
Daily Reading pt 1...
Oceans’s Growing Acidity Alarms Scientists - http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/23138.html
While the sea levels are rising as glaciers and polar ice melt, and increasing water temperatures affecting global weather patterns, there is also something else happening. As the oceans absorb more and more carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, they’re gradually becoming more acidic. And some scientists fear that the Change May Be IRREVERSIBLE. At risk are sea creatures up and down the food chain, from the tiniest phytoplankton and zooplankton to whales, from squid to salmon to crabs, coral, oysters and clams.
Another Milestone on the Road to Serfdom: The Dem-Republican Senate Consensus to Create a Spy State: "What Lichtblau, Risen and Shane [of the New York Times] are describing is the dawn of a new National Surveillance State in the United States, a public-private partnership. And the object of this partnership—which emerges as a criminal conspiracy, quite literally, between telecom companies and the Bush Administration—is to watch and listen to you and everything you do."
- http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/12/hbc-90001937
Chris Dodd Filibuster succeeds for now, telecom immunity bill is pulled until new year - http://chrisdodd.com/blog
Dodd filibuster threat causes Reid to withdraw FISA bill. - http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-t...
"Senator Chris Dodd won a temporary victory today after his threats of a filibuster forced Democratic leadership to push back consideration of a measure that would grant immunity to telecom companies that were complicit in warrantless surveillance."
Alternet: Forget about Hillary, forget about Barack. Hands down, John Edwards is the strongest Democratic candidate. - http://alternet.org/story/70781/
Talking Heads & Pundits From The MSM Say Clinton or Obama, But Edwards Is Best Bet to Beat GOP
In head to head matchups with the top 4 Republican candidates, John Edwards performs better than Hillary and Obama. Yet the corporate media continues to ignore him. Why? I think they know he will get stuff done for America. Can't have that can we now.
Edwards 08
Iowa's first lady to back Edwards for president - http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071216/NEWS/71...
“I think John is a winner. He’s electable,” she said. “He’s been tested. He’s been on the national ticket before. The national polls show him beating all Republicans in the general elections. He inspires me. I think he inspires other Iowans, and I think he can really rally Americans in the fall.”
Edwards 08
Democracy needs the voices of Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert (and their talented writers) - http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/analysis/237
The 2008 presidential race will be covered better if the writers strike could get settled and Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert and their talented writers can get back to work. But only if it's a fair deal.
Daily Reading pt 2...
Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman: Ohio Secretary of State confirms 2004 election could have been stolen; Can the MSM even consider the thought? - http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_bob_fitr_071214_ohio_secretary_o...
Indeed, she says, "the tools needed to compromise an accurate vote count could be as simple as tampering with the paper audit trail connector or using a magnet and a personal digital assistant."
In other words, Ohio's top election official has finally confirmed that the 2004 election could have been easily stolen.
Brunner's stunning findings apply to electronic voting machines used in 58 of Ohio's 88 counties, in addition to scanning devices and central tabulators used on paper ballots in much of the rest of the state.
Another skeleton of Huckabee: Rollins, Huckabee and a $10 Million Illegal Campaign Pay-off to Ronald Reagan - http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/121707.html
BREAKING: Colorado's Republican Sec. of State Decertifies E-Voting Machines After Failed Testing - http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5451
Former White House Crisis Manager Says of Dick Cheney: He Did It His Way, And Bush Didn't Care. - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2007/10/bush-confidant-.html
Italians Block Construction of U.S. Base; 'The people of the northern Italian city of Vicenza, with help from activists around Italy, the rest of Europe, and even in the United States, are continuing to block the proposed construction of a new U.S. military base on their soil.' - http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/29388
Good on them, country of origin for my family
More on How the Bush Administration, Particularly Rove, Stole an Alabama Governorship and Then Politically Prosecuted and Sent to Federal Prison the Democratic Governor Who Had Really Won the Election, Don Siegelman - http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/12/hbc-90001940
Don Siegelman, Former Democratic Governor of Alabama, Who Was Framed by the Busheviks and is Now in Federal Prison Spills the Beans on How His Governorship Was Stolen from Him Through Electoral Manipulation by the Republicans. Then He Was Sent to Prison as a Result of a Bush/Rove Political Prosecution. (May Only be Able to Pick Up Audio of Interview)
- http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/2007/12/siegelman-speaks-ex-gov-ca...
Sorry Mods, meant for the 1st story to be bold
Very good! This is the best I've ever heard from either of these two candidates. I say all debate should be held in this form in the future...that or maybe in the form of a Cage Match.
When I saw the ad at the beginning, I turned it off. Sorry. Next time try to edit the ad out, and I'll watch it.
We did a lot of work to get the front ads out. I don't like 'em either, but like Bill, I do like Harry Shearer. We do try to avoid ads on C&L videos... - bg
I guess Harry's humour is a little too subtle for some. Oh well....
funny AND appropo.
john @ 36:
too bad. you missed a good one.
A Black Mark For "Greening"
Harry's radio show on NPR is excellent
Merry Solstice
Heh heh...heh heh...heh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bqdP6GuAvM
That was stupid.
I think this is the first time I've heard these politicians speak the truth. MORE SILENT DEBATES!!!!
Eric Jaffa @ 43:
I agree.
The trolls have landed.
Ok Andy. What doya wanna know about why I don't support a non-catholic papist, a guy who claims to want less government, except for women when it comes to choice-hell a doctor who, by his anti-choice stance seeks to vitiate the privacy between a doctor and a patient...I am a socialist. I believe in taking care of one's neighbours. A rising tide lifting all boats and none of this "Me first, Me second and if there's any left over Me third."
I am not a 'thing' person. Not much of a consumer. Ron Paul and his band of merry shitheads are all about "Fuck thy neighbour" IMHO
miss kitty-
When I said, "Ya know, the ad hominem attacks against Paul are gettin’ a bit disgustin’."
I was referrin' to Paul in LA, not Ron Paul. He and I were both accused of trollin' a coupla weeks back because we dared to have opinions that ran counter to the "Get rid of Pelosi" fever. Neither of us has stated that Bushco doesn't deserve impeachment, only that it's a fruitless endeavor. Do ya think that all of a sudden that Republicans are goin' to open up as witnesses just because a Democratic House passes impeachment charges? Do ya think that, even if presented the facts, that 17 or 18 Republican Senators would vote fer conviction?
And do ya think that someone in the comments could just say, "Yes, it would make me feel better if the administration was impeached, though I know they won't be convicted," rather than, "Paul in LA is a troll, and Andy K blows him under the bridge"?
That's what I'm gettin' at.
But the misunderstandin' is kinda funny.
And, btw, I still know ya can find my e-mail address somehow or another and contact me. 'Cause there's somethin' I'd like to talk to ya about, but I'd much rather not do so publicly.
And, trust me, it's not anything fawning.
WTF is the point of this????
Waste of effin time even if you don't ask me.
I don't know why you included me in this-I wasn't hopping on you guys. And I usually ignore P in LA, but the last couple of days I've been giving him a friendly nudge here and there.
Did someone say that shit to you? Did you write the site mods? did it get deleted? Sorry about the Ron Paul thing-these days you know he's so annoyingly all over the place that I just thought... :lol:
Yeah, the person who I cited in the final paragraph cracked that way. And, no, I didn't contact the site monitors, I just didn't escalate to a full-on flame war. Then, the next day, that person and one or two others decided to continue the ad hominem attacks even though Paul in LA and I weren't commentin'.
So your "nudge" seemed to me a bit less than friendly. Sorry fer that mis-understandin'. But I'm pretty sure that Paul in LA has gotta be feelin' the same as I do. Not that I ever have contact with him outside of the comments, or anything, but I've caught the same shit- in much smaller increments- and I've started gettin' a bit testy.
And, fer the record, I hate it when Paul in LA casually calls people liars. Maybe some of 'em are...but I remember the one about the boy who cried wolf.
I treat Paul in LA with respect. I disagree 1000 % with him, but I admire his tenacity and his commitment to his beliefs. So while we have disagreements, I don't recall where it's gotten nasty. It may have once, but I'm trying hard not to be rude so much. If it's a regular that I find odious, I'll skip saying anything to them.
I've got a feelin' that the two of ya agree on more than you think ya do. Me, I think he's spot-on when it comes to Pelosi.
Her House has passed a lot of good, progressive legislation. It's not her fault that the Senate Republicans block everything they can, and what gets through the Senate gets vetoed. Yet the "dis-affiliated lefties" (Paul in LA's term) see only where impeachment lies(lays?...I'll never figure that one out 'til it's addressed on 30 Rock) in relation to Pelosi's table and disregard everything else. They are wearin' fuckin' blinders. And it pisses 'em off when Paul in LA- or I- point this out.
But I'm sure that ya treat the guy with respect. I haven't been hangin' around these parts much the last few weeks, fearin' that by doin' so might cause my head to explode. Sorry fer assumin' that ya might act otherwise.
Andy K @ 55:
That's ok. One of the things I have learned about conversing on the internet is that it's easy to misunderstand. Like I couldn't understand why you you calling me out about Ron Paul on a non Ron paul thread. :P
Are you postin' at all on the LNMC thread any more, m_k? My schedule makes it a dis-incentive to stay up after 10 pm, and most of those threads post after 11 pm(ET). When I do check 'em out, no one's linkin' shit! Well, some do, but, man, it's depressin' to see that Fogelberg thread and not see anyone bitchin' about how much of a suck the guy was...musically, not as a humanHow I would dread gettin' in the car with mom in the early '80's, that "light rock" pablum forced through my ear-drums on that drive to the mall or the grocery store...
But I digress...
Guess I should pick a Friday or Saturday in the near future and pirate the fuck outta that thread. Then have som n00b chastise me. Yeah....
oops missed you here. I have been trying to post in LNMC, but my Les Rita Mitsouko posts are totally ignored. Tasteless bastards! :P
And I don't know what's happened to aangus. He was supposed to email me before he came out here in July and never did, and he's pretty much quit posting. Right now, this time of year, my Raynaud's Syndrome makes it hard to type, because my fingers freeze up. I keep them under a blanket when I'm not typing...
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