Snow laments an imaginary 'war on God'
By Steve Benen Sunday Dec 16, 2007 8:45pm
Following up on an item from last week, former White House press secretary Tony Snow is using his time outside of government service to make increasingly bizarre comments about Iran, academia, and religion. (via the Washington Times)
Tony Snow, former press Secretary to President Bush and Fox news anchor, spoke to the Academy of Leadership & Liberty at Oklahoma Christian University last week.
The winsome and articulate Snow charmed his audience with wit: “The average Iranian is more Pro-American than virtually any college faculty in this country.” And with serious talk about the war on terror and “the second war in this country, the war on God.”
This is so dumb, I’m almost surprised Snow would make the comments out loud, in public.
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surely their lightbulb has gone on by now.................at least for some of them.
He's right. We don't want God for president.
How did this lame ever get a job in the frist place?
that picture is funny....it looks like he's giving himself a "Vulcan mind meld"...........the pain,The Pain.
Poor, colon-less Snow still thinks of The Dummy as 'god'.
Is his cancer advanced or in remission? If it's advanced, that's the ravenings of a sick and dying man.
If not, he's just plain crazy.
It might be bad karma, but I'm still rooting for the cancer.
Tony's still trying to prove (and doing a damned good job of it) that the only guy in the house without a colon is more full of sh*t than anyone.
“The average Iranian is more Pro-American than virtually any college faculty in this country.”
Wow he just attacked every military academy in America.
West Point should have some things to say about this.
I'm sure God is annoyed that the GOP has declared war on him by putting his name on their fuckups.
So what did the faculty of OCU think about his comments?
Does tony really think that "God" needs his help? Methinks it's the other way around.
Another White House White Whore out to make a buck of his years of lies............
Bud @ 11:
Oklahoma City University?
How about BYU?
Or BJU?
There's a level of Hell reserved for liars. Where in Hell does Tony think he's going if there's an afterlife?
You have to understand, when they did the colonectomy on Snow, they went in his ears and extracted it through his nose.
He's a little light up top.
God told him to stay away from Oral Roberts until things quiet down
CD @ 14:
I always preferred good ol' FU - go Fordham! ;)
Tony's working the crowd again I see. Cashing in on the circuit. Of course he's not going to go to Oklahoma Christian University and say,
You know your all a bunch of brain dead jesus freak as*h*les and morons who would drink cyanide if I handed you a glass full without question and for that I'm grateful because otherwise I wouldn't be rich.
I wonder, is the 'god' who told The Dummy to kill all those kids and women in Iraq based on lies, the same 'god' who put the tumors in Snow's colon?
If so, maybe we need one more war, and this'll be the big one,
Nuke 'god'.
Bud @ 18:
Funny when I read what Tony said my first thought was FU. ;)
Obviously he has drunk too much of the Bush Kool-Aid. The guy used to have at least some credibility. Now he has none.
Christian Jihad is our goal; murder murder is our game
I mean, c'mon . . . the War on Christmas was SO 20 minutes ago. Let's show the world that what we godless liberals are after is . . GOD HIMSELF!!! The secret is out. I am SO upset. I was so sure we could get God in a sneak attack.
Rico @ 22:
Snow, who resigned from the White House to continue his fight against colon cancer and “make some money,”
That's all it's ever been about to Republicans.
“make some money”
I don't like to be mean but he is on pretty heavy medication. That might explain a few things.
With talk like this I think America does need to start defending itself again Christianity. There may not be a war against them yet but if they continue to keep attacking patriotic Americans this way a war is what they're asking for.
Bill @ 26:
That actualy would explain why he'd say such crazy things.
But why is his family letting him be interviewed if he's not in a normal state of mind?
If you like this Snow story, how'd you miss:
'Abraham Slobovowitz, ex-kvetcher in the Bronx, said Lieberman is better than chicken fat on chopped liver'.
This guy is sick,and he knows he should be taking it easy.But he's so Fucked Up on Hate and Power....he's actualy killing himself.....with the hopes he'll be seen as some kind of political martyr...of the right.WRONG!!!! ..he'll be forgotten in 5 days....if that long.
My neighbor has cancer. She asked me not to visit with her for a few days after her chemo treatments, because she couldn't think straight, that the medication affected her mental processes.
In the case of my neighbor, I'm very sad, but as for Tony Snow, if this is the problem, he needs to stop for a moment and just listen to himself. The amplification of his deep-seated pathos is disturbing.
War war war war war. I'm so sick of this metaphor! I can't disagree with an idea anymore without being "at war" with it.
The metaphor simultaneously exaggerates and desensitizes. Rhetorically, it falsely pits political opponents as lethal enemies, and the effect of the exaggeration is so pernicious that we can barely carry on a civil public conversation. At the same time, ubiquity and overuse of the term "war" desensitizes us to bona fide WAR -- the kind where real people, innocent people, really do suffer and die.
Hey, Tony! I don't believe in your god. I'm not at war with him. Or you.
Now, fuck off.
$10,000 per appearance I think is the going rate.
Hasn't anyone thought about why this nutjob, Lieberman, was the vice-presidential candidate with Gore in 2000? Was he the back-up plan, should Bush-Cheney not have been able to steal the election?
Al & Joe win, "something" happens to Al, Joe brings on Cheney to shows he's "fair & balanced" and we still get the '01 Energy meeting, 9/11, and war in Iraq. Lieberman was a very odd, last-minute choice for VP; Not Al's choice.
Maybe Gore was lucky enough to have "lost" the 2000 election afterall? Hey, let's all go shopping, no worries.
Did Tony have cancer of the brain?
So let's bomb 'em!
dollars to donuts............we don't see Tony Snow for awhile after this.
How can you be "...almost surprised..." that Snow would spew this crap in public?
Now that's surprising.
Certain cancers spread to the brain, or so I've been told.
Straight Shooter @ 31:
Seriously the man just insulted every institute of higher learning in Utah.
"The filthy liberals hate air, too!", squealed Snow. "They want to remove all air from the planet so you can't breathe anymore! And they really really hate kittens! They'll kill your kittens!", said the bleary-eyed propagandist.
What kind of an idiot would believe this crap?
Maybe he means the "War on Dog."
You know.
The one Mike Huckabee's son is fighting.
Snow's right. Like Christopher Hitchens, I'm not just an atheist but an anti-theist.
The god described in the Hebrew bible, the Abrahamic God of the Torah, Old Testament and Koran, is a vile, despicable character whom I would never worship.
I don't want the world the Christians say exists. I don't want to live under celestial surveillance. I don't want to live in a universe where the final moral authority is eternal, unchanging and unquestionable. I don't want to be condemned for my thoughts. I don't want to be saved vicariously by an act of brutal sadism.
The doctrine of Christianity is wicked and should be resisted.
The culture of Christianity is a mixed bag, good and bad, but I'm with those who say that the doctrine supports the bad and the good exists despite it.
So, yes, Tony, I would be at war with your god, if only he existed. Failing that, i shall content myself with calling his followers fools to their face.
You're a fool.
CatAtomic @ 41:
lol
LongTooth @ 39:
With out making jokes I have a hard time believing his cancer could travel from the butt to the brain that fast.
"It's really cool when leaders gossip about other leaders"....................................................................where did he think he was..............................in the high school gym?
CD @ 45:
BUTT you know theres a really good joke there.....ok,ok...I won't do it............bu,bu,but....
Tickling their ears as it were....
Just so he can make that money!
Tony came within a hairs breadth of choosing a career in sales for used cars or medicinal remedies for baldness, prior to broadcasting.
You have to understand, Snow only had a colonectomy, so he could have plausible deniability if he was ever accused of being full of shit.
mudshark @ 47:
Come Come we must restrain from making these kinds of.....cracks.
War on Christmas. War on Christians. War on God..
You know what.. Shut the fuck up. You Christians don't know what it's like to be persecuted. You fucking run this country lock stock and barrel to the point where other religions are paying taxes so YOU can get money from the Faith Based Initiatives. Effectively other religions are being taxed to pay for Christianity's continued prosetylization. You control the majority in both parties, every state and local legislature, the supreme court, the Presidency and every police and fire station in the country and you're trying desperately to shove your God into science class and erect monuments to YOUR god on public lands and you to talk about being persecuted? You wanna see persecution? Go to Iraq. Go to Botswana. Go to Ghana. Go to Saudi Arabia. Until you get to see your family dragged away to be tortured because you wear a cross around your neck, SHUT.THE.FUCK.UP. You still get to speak. You still get to raise families. You still get to own property and I don't see Wiccans banging on my door at 7:30 am to ask me whether or not I'm going to the Drum Circle to celebrate the Sabbath or demanding that my store wish people a Blessed Samhain.
I am sick to death of hearing this bullshit. Grow the fuck up.
CD @ 50:
ooohhhhh...that's bad...LOL
tony, take your "holy $#!+" and shove it up your @$$.
I wonder what the Republicans Professors I know will think of such an insult?
If god (I'm presuming that Snow is referring to a monotheistic construct here) attacked the United States, with every intention of wiping us out, it would be unpatriotic to not fight back, yes? No? If there is a war against God, would like-minded people not support our troops in the biggest challenge to their country's survival ever?
Additionally, how can there be a war on god (once again, I'll presume a garden-variety transcendent deity) if such a god is not manifest? Where do we aim the missiles: at the bible? The bible isn't god, so perhaps Snow means a metaphorical war, but isn't the bible metaphorical? It claims Jesus bodily rose into heaven, but the Milky Way is 3,000 light years thick in these parts, meaning the messiah, circa 2007, hasn't even escaped our galaxy yet (being a god he has somehow survived the temperature, air pressure, oxygen problems, etc.). Perhaps Jesus is a metaphorical cannon ball, hurtling towards the Father, and this is the war that Snow has in mind. There sure are a lot more wars since the chickenhawks came to power.
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I think these crazy fuckers are fighting a war on sanity.
THE ANTI-CLAUS IS COMING AND HE KNOWS YOU'VE BEEN BAD!
HIDE YOUR TOYS GIRLS AND BOYS!
DRESSED IN BLACK, HE KNOWS YOU'RE SLEEPING!
STEALTHY LIKE A CAT HE IS SNEAKING!
Just a concept I was working on, I thought it would make for a good comic novel. Anti-Claus would look something like Grover Norquist in an executioners hood. He's on a crusade against the red communist Santa who is secularizing Christmas.
It's an idea I just wanted to bounce off a few people.
mjs @ 55:
Snow might have meant a war on the existance of Religion but considering the other stupid thigns he said I wouldn't be suprised if he forgot the Abramatic God isn't supposed to have a physical form least not the kind that mortals could attack.
what's this about a war on god??? is he starting his crap again???
We have enough trouble trying to defeat bands of disorganized, gun-toting Iraqis. I don't think we want any part of a war against God. As a side, if we are at war with God, wouldn't that mean that our commander in chief is leading that war.
maybe when tony refers to a "war on god", he's really referring to a "war on baphomet"...
i can see why the neocons would be worried about the common folk rising up in opposition to their master.
I'm sure God has his own anti-ballistic missile defense shield.
This is the man who said there is no racism in America right?
war on christmas
war on christians
war on creation
war on god?
war on bullshit!
but, but he never said anything like this when he was white house press secretary, why?
mudshark @ 52:
:lol: but
tyou guys are cracking me upBOIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnggggggggggg!
so apparently it is still impossible not to hang on snowjob's every word! yhew!
I guess you could say Tony Snow is suffering from an extreme case of cerebral flatulence.
E in MD @ 51:
i know for a fact the christopher hitchens strongly agrees with you.
Damn! He's on to us. The plan was so righteous!
Lightning attack, shock and awe, remove God, quick show trial, let the disgruntled angels hang Him, establish a shining new Democracy in Heaven, build some eternal bases and we'll have a presence in heaven from here to eternity. Damn you Snow!
Too bad his imaginary god won't save him from his cancer...
What a douche bag.
Where is your compassion, people? Have you no decency? At long last, have you no shame?
Have you no pity when an omnipotent and omniscient being is being being picked on by snide secularists? It's got to hurt the poor little (omniscient, omnipotent) guy.
Being picked on like that probably almost makes Him consider actually showing up to prove to people He exists. That would shut them up! That would also stop all this bickering and bloodshed going on over His name, but I doubt God will stoop so low. A God that is completely invisible and immune to all forms of detection or evidence is best of course. Don't let the bastards drag you down, God!
I'm not, after finding out that Snow Job is an Intelligent Design supporter, having stated that there is a scientific conspiracy concerning evolution.
Apparently, he also has a brain tumor, poor guy. Or he's been hanging around Loony O'Reilly too much.
Snow and the other jerkoffs love culture war soma carrots to get Chicago School privatization of all government services and programs
Poor "Christian majority"....all the pain and suffering they must endure.
Wow, how did he know? I'm a history professor in the US who's reading Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials Trilogy. Obviously he's psychic. I could only be someone who hates America and wants to make war on God.
Winsome?
(wnsm)
adj.
Charming, often in a childlike or naive way.
Ummm. Ok.
CoIntelPro @ 66:
BUNS UP!!!
Ok...war on God...do you think the enemies would lose? Stupid point but secular humanists fighting a war on an actually existing God would be suicide. If Snow believes God is under attack why couldn't he just wish his enemies out of existence or make them forget what they wanted to do? I mean the guy/gal is the master of the universe! Oh, it is a figurative war, so poor God is under attack by ideas? Same thing, would it harm him? I mean he/she's is God!!!!!! Tony Snow you are just crazy, I think your brain doesn't engage until after your mouth stops flapping. If you think it through God shouldn't care, he goes on and he wins...always. Unless that is you don't actually believe in him but just the fun value that declaring there is a war on God has for you and your merry band? God certainly works in mysterious ways doesn't he Tony?
Cancer or no cancer, Tony Snow is a TOTAL KOOK.
Hey. Chemo causes brain damage. If he's on cisplatin (the drug I got), carmustine or cytarabine, expect more of the same. And many other chemo treatments cause problems due to the neurotoxicity of these incredibly strong drugs. Essentially, as a cancer patient, one is poisoned. I was given a Hazmat clean up kit in case the bag of drugs broke, and a quick how-to clean up a chemo spill lesson when they sent me home with the pump and bag thinger.
Lay off Tony. He's very ill. And no doubt feels physically awful, pumped full of anti-emetics to keep the vomiting at bay and oxycontin-maybe even Fentanyl, Dilaudid or morphine.
I wonder what Nietzsche would say...
miss_kitty @ 81:
OK miss kitty.....I'll stop.......but one would think that since he''s that ill....he shouldn't be making speaking arrangements.....he should be at home taking care of himself,with his family.
Xenon @ 82:
He'd say it doesn't matter what he says.
Rico @ 22:
Please refresh my memory. Exactly when did Snow have credibility? Was this while he was host of Fox News Sunday? Was it before or after the first lie he told to the American people as White House spokesman? Or was it during his stints filling in for Rush Limbaugh? By now it's clear to even the least politically sophisticated of us that whatever Tony Snow says, the exact opposite is true.
Snow should consider a career in stand up because his bat shit crazy Christian act is damn funny.
AF
Anacher Forester @ 85:
Snowjob NEVER had any credibility. Maybe he was dipping into El Drugbo's Oxy stash while subbing for the fat prick.
Bad Idea @ 79:
I agree, I doubt a supreme creator would need a two-bit hack to come to his rescue when he could just send a plague as he has been reported to enjoy so much. Just wipe out he first born son of all us heathens and He can delight in the stench of death and suffering that apparently fuels His divinity.
jwf @ 86:
When he swiched from working at Fox to working at the White House my brother "his title may have changed but his job hasn't".
I take back my excuse for Snow that he is going through mental problems associated with his cancer. Snow was saying these things way back when.
I suppose it would not do any good to remind Snowjob that it is the Americans who love their country who are criticizing what the present power structure is doing...to destroy it.
The 30% are just fan-boys - rooting for a team not unlike they root for a sports team.
Otay @ 89:
Conservatism/Republicanism ARE mental disorders.
Otay @ 90:
Exactly - a game between the Nationalists and the Patriots.
CoIntelPro @ 70:
Much like he said himself, I don't care if anyone agrees with me. I agree with him on some things but I think he's dead wrong on others. I don't happen to believe in a god or gods but I respect the rights of people who do inasmuch as they do not attempt to restrict my life, proselytize to me with their nonsense or attempt to otherwise harm me. Right wing fundamentalist Evangelicals continue to do all three things while attempting to establish a theocratic hegemony in my nation that benefits only them and I will not stand silent for it. This war on 'poor oppressed religious folk' is merely another facet of this paradigm. It is a bigger pack of lies than the WMDs in Iraq and a larger fabrication than the yellwocake memo.
The real war is extreme right wingers against everyone else whether or not we care to recognize that fact. If we do not speak up and stop it them from turning this nation into the United Evangelical States of Jesusland then we will ALL fall together and we will all suffer for it.
miss_kitty @ 81:
Then he should remove himself from the airwaves, shut up, and get himself well. It was his team ( Republicans ) that set the rules of engagement when they started attacking the disable ( Michael J Fox ), nine year old kids and others. If he wants to spout off his theocrat bullshit then he's fair game.
It blows me away how all of these guys who went to the best schools in America now denounce them. Would they like to trade their salaries for that of a high school grad? No? Then shut the fuck up about college!
Fucking moron. Here's hopin' the cancer takes ya,
Yeah, I said it.
...
mudshark @ 78:
Oh guys I have to stop before I make an ass of myself.
nuke heaven
CoIntelPro @ 66:
:lol:
The crazy religious people believe that God is a loser and needs defending. These religious people are so in love with war that they project their desire for war onto God.
Xenon @ 83:
Uh, "Mission Accomplished?"
I see Phony Scott is turning it up a notch to the War on God. He skipped the double dog dare (War on Jesus) and went straight to triple dog dare. He's trying to inspire the legion of jackalopes with thoughts of libruls burning churches and torturing Charlton Heston. Someone yank the mic from that poor sick fuck.
I feel stupid.
I actually didn't realize quite how bad this guy was until he left the White House.
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“The average Iranian is more Pro-American than virtually any college faculty in this country.”
Yeah, we should invade colleges and establish democracy.
Between this guy and O'Reilly, what is Michael Weiner going to do to get any air time? He's going to have to start decapitating nuns or something.
That's not dumb, it's *evil*. Snow is just another Merchant of Hate, who can't offer any views worth holding or support the ones he does hold, so he falls back on the tried-and-true method of slinging mud at anyone who doesn't share his extremist beliefs.
Tony the Snowman doesn't have cancer - he IS cancer. The crimes this piece of shit has committed in the service of Rupert Murdoch and George W. Bush are so legion, I'm surprised his tongue hasn't fallen out of his filthy fascist head.
I'm sorry Tony but you forgot to specify which god so you don't get any points for that one but here's a lovely parting gift. Thank you for playing. Don't come back!
Ah, good ol' Snowjob. An articulate psychopath. I wonder if he cries himself to sleep every night.
Just how much of a pussy is this god of his that he's so worried?
Wow, that's pretty dumb even for him.
Foul comments but let's be real. There is a backlash against those religionists who want to impose their religion unto the rest of us. But it's not a war on god, it's a war for the constitution, a war for reason, a war to restore our secular government.
You know...the reichwingnut dumb arses out there...say that we have fake causes
Well, they have fake outrage over fake wars that they dream up when its politically expedient....
War on Drugs (going very well, thanks Reaganite morons...the mobs/mafias/crime syndicates, cartels, and street kings all thank you from the bottom of their hearts for pushing the street prices through the roof - that 'war' has only made dealers, producers, & private mercenary contractors fortunes
War on Terror (do you really have to ask me how that's going?...) a 'war' on a tactic (as implausible as compassionate con-servatism) that has been around since the first civilizations and gee...has been shown time and time again, that its an intelligence/police/law enforcement action...you can't fight a guerilla force with a stand up military...but its sure profitable for those mercenary companies, military industrial complex firms, & other multinational corporations of blood for profit
War on Christmas (You can almost sense Hallmark is oozing to put out cards about this) a 'war' against nothing, absolutely nothing. The Founding fathers were not christians, the majority of them were unitarians, deists, or agnostic. They spout John Adams, but conveniently skip over his quotes that explicitly pronounce the importance of the separation of church & state. This is a melting pot of a country, there are hundreds of different religions, there are millions of people in this country that are indifferent to religion...this is not a 'christian nation', at least according to the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
I'll take a Bill Maher quote to sum this up: New Rule: Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas must be combined into one single super-holiday--called "Thankshallowistmas." That way, you only have to get together with your bat-shit family once. In a costume for candy, presents and a big turkey dinner. Then it's everybody into the den until you're drunken uncle calls your cousin a whore.
The combination of Chemo and stupidity must be overwhelming.
i think the war should not go on
That spew is an insult to Iranians. The evangelical Neocon mindset has more in common with the Taliban than the man-on-the-street Iranian.
hello how are you
smchris @ 116:
Rose @ 2:
bush at least thinks he's dog. And he might be correct.
I guess a SOB is still a dog. ;)
hmmmmmmm, lets see here, click, click, ahhhh, mythical wars, with mythical beings, OKKKKKKKKK, talk about a snow job, geezzzzz, why do I even turn the freaking TV on? Coffee's ready, CLICK!! Come on Fido, lets go for a walk, get some fresh air, enough crazy for today. Pull a few weeds, pick some veggies, we can hit C&L later for a reality check, now where's that ball..............
God killed his own people (flood) and definitely has WMDs. Of course there's a war on him.
CoIntelPro @ 66:
This is awful! Making fun of his condition like that! It's...it's...ASSenine, I say!
Okay, this is just coming in, when is a clown doing pratfalls not funny?
When he's georgie boosh.
Karnac the Magnificent, I'm channeling now.
Ok.....
If God is all-powerful, it would be absolutely impossible to wage a war on him/her/it.
Sorry, but us mere mortals wouldn't stand a chance.
Oh, and by the way Snow....
One of my classmates in college couldn't finish the semester - because he chose to join the military and go to Iraq. I DARE you to tell him how "un-American" he is!
it may be off the wall to you and me, but it probably went over well at OC.
sorry but Oklahoma Christian is the most conservative university in a conservative state.
Tony Snow-job isn't Jerry Fatwell calling you home yet. I guess he wants to ensure that he goes to hell instead of the fun, cool place. If God is all powerful, then shut up and walk to the light and listen to his wishes.
Tony is so troubled...bless his heart.
The cancer went to his closed minded, Reslug pea brain a long time ago.
WinSmith @ 42:
Beautiful!! I can't get the image of the Huck's Christmas card out of my mind. They are a very strange lot, and what circus tent did they steal to make those freakin' stripped shirts???
Snow is clearly not well, and he is unraveling faster than a ball of yarn. Yet, he must walk the earth trying to earn his way with what he has left of a mind. He never had a conscience, so he's clueless about karma and stuff like that.
Dear Mr. Snow. - I am a Democrat and I love this country. You are a Republican and you only love money. I was praying last night and God asked me to tell you something. He said, "Tell Tony Snow I said, "Fuck You"'. So Mr. Snow, fuck you. And that one is from God....
And I always thought those ugly academic robes were a holdover from the distant past; now I find they must be used to conceal suicide belts. On the plus side, with so many academics taking the martyrdom route, there'll be a lot more faculty openings. I wonder if DHS has put Ward Churchill on the don't-rent list for truck rental firms or the do-not-sell list to fertilizer stores.
Sorry, Tony, only wingnuts are dumb enough to start an unwinnable war.
But we've ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia!
WAR ON DRUGS
(religion is the opiate of the world)
WAR ON GOD
Taa-daa
Was snowjob a fan of My Favorite Martian?
Yo Tony
Don't stop believin'
Enjoy da' onion rings
Bada Boom
fwacbar @ 132:
Last time He did that His son was born from an underaged girl.
I don't think God wants anything to do with Snow. Just a hunch.
Maybe Tony Snow should just lie to his cancer. Maybe it"ll just go away.
jeffenator98 @ 141:
He tried that with the American people, and we didn't go away.
Rusty Shackleford @ 142:
Ziiiiing!
Yeah, the way the Neo-Cons have waged war on God, using Him as an excuse for every little thing they want to do. I would think God is pretty upset about that.
"This is so dumb, I’m almost surprised Snow would make the comments out loud, in public."
It's the medicinal weed and Twinkies.
If there was a God, and humans decided to wage a war on him/her, who do you think would win?
Caption for the picture.
" I have a liberal headache, quit asking questions that require the truth"
Its not everyday that the RightWing will admit that they are out to kill God.
That takes some big fuzzy ones Tony...may God have mercy on your soul.
If indeed there were a God, it's lack of response to this so-called "war" proves that it does not exist. Any almighty supernatural being certainly could fight its own battles without any help from assholes like Tony Snow.
"It's not a tumor!"
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