Open Thread
By bluegal Monday Jan 21, 2008 10:30pm
Edicts of Nancy (satire): Honoring Dr. King the conservative way, with America's First Black President.
For the honor of being right, is conservative America's First Black President:
A. Alan Keyes
B. La Shawn Barber
or C. Ronald Reagan?
Click here for the answer. Open thread below....








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Ronnie may have been the first black president but for the record, Mitt likes Negroes too!
Whoever it is, Bill O'Reilly will have the M***fing Iced Tea, thank you very much.
I'd like to take this opportunity to share with all my 'Fantasy Tribute' to Suzanne Pleshette -- also with a surprise ending!
For Jose': http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20080117
"All safe deposit boxes in banks or financial institutions have been sealed... and may only be opened in the presence of an agent of the I.R.S."
- President F.D. Roosevelt, 1933
Ok lets put that into perspective, an executive order
"All safe deposit boxes of Bush and Cheney Families of corporate military, media, and industrial links, in banks or financial institutions have been sealed... and may only be opened in the presence of an agent of the I.R.S."
-President Hillary Clinton, 2013
Study: Bush, Other Officials Issued Hundreds of False Statements Before Iraq Invasion
link
Can we impeach the bastard now?
jason: Yeah, I was gonna link that, and thought, "What took them so long?!" Anyway, the Army is lowering its standards, again!
edwards is on letterman
Crap, this horoscope for tomorrow blows: Over the next 15 years, we’ll see power-crazed Pluto transforming governments, corporations, banking institutions and equity markets, probably making them even more intertwined than they are. Once Pluto gets to Aquarius, we can have our revolution.
What, no King Lincoln? Pshaw!
I lived through Reagan's era and am here to say that I hated that prick every bit as much as I do Junior.He was a nasty SOB with blood on his hands.Bush actually does a fair imitation of his "just plain folks" routine.In the end it was all so much horse shit.
Reagan was a fucking S. American dictator enabling monster.Of the worst kind.
I'm glad the mother fucker is dead.
jasonG @ 6:
Does that mean that Bush made baby Jesus cry?
pinkobait @ 11:
Dude, I'm right their with you. I actually heard someone say that you have to respect him because of what he did for the country and some BS about honoring the dead, I said I will honor the people he had killed in Central and South America, and various places around the world.
Oh the look I got! if I only had a camera
Edwards was great on Letterman; he called himself "the grown-up wing of the Democratic party". I've never seen Dave laugh so hard when John joked that he was as good and charitable as Oprah.
pinkobait @ 11:
Amen. Speak the Truth.
Alan Keyes:"Also, I would point to Reagan as somebody I greatly admire."
Alan Keyes:race traiter/all around douche bag.
Orangutan. @ 15:
you know it B.
Tequila @ 9:
guess hillary did win!
pinkobait @ 16:
id admire to take a dump in his crypt!
pinkobait @ 17:
I know I hated him more than you did. I even hated his cabinet. :P
A Quick 47 minute clip to help study the Economic Mess we find ourselves in. This has happened over a bit of time. Gonna take a bit of time to get it right.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=497251819335380093
Google Video is a big help.
Who needs the neo-con philosophy? It is completely fallacious.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/01/21/thai.parliament/
If it's all about stopping violence, how about:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080122/ap_on_re_af/congo
And I am DEFINITELY visiting Vermont this summer...fuck yeah...
http://www.boston.com/news/local/vermont/articles/2008/01/21/in_montpeli...
OMG!!!!!
http://www.tmz.com/2008/01/22/jerry-to-tom-scientologys-really-funny/
tyree @ 19:
If there is one man whose door step America can now lay the blame for the economic/social/political quagmire it now finds itself in?My vote is Ronald Fucking Reagan.
A true douche bag for the ages.Bush simply took the ball and ran with it-prodded by that reprehensible Nixonian slimebag Cheney.
pinkobait @ 16:
*slight correction*
sorry, his fuckedupness extends beyond racial boundaries. really.
FUCKING FASCIST NEO-CONS!!!!
http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20080128&s=gould-wartofsky
I gotta say, pinkobait, there's something... therapeutic... about reading your comments on Ronnie.
CoIntelPro @ 25:
Yeah okay-I'll go along with that.Nice play of words on "sanity" and "humanity" BTW...
fiver @ 27:
LOL! I should admit to you guys that I've been dabbling in the old "truth serum" a tad tonight....
pinkobait @ 24:
congratulations you will be allowed to dump on regans corpse allso!
tyree @ 30:
Look at Ronnie's friends for the answer:Maggie Thatcher for example,who commented that "society" was just a word ,a concept that didn't really even exist.The Sex Pistols were the direct product of Thatchers Dickensian union busting England-no hope no future.
fiver @ 27:
I second that emotion.
explains why Tony Blair is
on the runtouring doing lectures and avoiding visiting Britain.http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/01/389332.html
RIP Heath Ledger
Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 13:
So is he, Nancy and his kids. Michael was adopted and doesn't know any better.
diggers, let's get this edwards story a lot of diggs: http://www.digg.com/politics/Senator_Edwards_We_Need_You_To_Lead
The United States of America has already had the first black President who's name is Bill Clinton. Now I know Obama is jealous because he didn't get the honor but that's life. A white friend told me Obama is whiter then he is. Senator Obama is out of his league with Bill Clinton. Bill is even a better dancer then Obama is that black enough for him.
O.T. I sent this to Elizabeth earlier.
Elizabeth, again the media almost totally ignores John. In all of the debates it is like he is a halogram, he’s there then he’s not. The media is keeping him from reaching the people and delivering his message. I sent this message to John the other day and I want to make sure he gets it.
I think you need to go to the progresiive radio advertising. The regular MSM is not going to cover you and financing that kind of advertising will use up your campaign funds. As the Rueters article pointed out, they are afraid of you John. On progressive radio, Ed Schultz, Thom Hartmann and others have given you more airtime than any of the MSM. I think you will benefit much more by reaching more of the progressive voter without the negative and dismissive attitude the MSM has given you.
We love your ideas John and the corporate media does not.
Ron @ 38:
Who listens to "progressive radio"? About 100 people at a time? I searched, but cannot find a progressive radio station where I live. I hope John doesn't waste his limited resources on progressive radio.
mo_dems @ 39:
Ed schultz has over 3,000,000 listeners. I know they aren't in every area but, word of mouth is a great seller.
Ron @ 40:
Hey guess what, you can get it over the internet. Where in the hell have you been?
Ron @ 41:
Forget that I asked that question. You were watching the media news.
Ron @ 42:
No, I'm living in the real world. Most real people in the real world don't listen to radio on the internet.
Ron @ 42:
Have you heard of the internet, yet? It's a place where you canhear some broadcasts that you won't hear on some of your local stations. Oh, oh, you do use the internet. My bad!
mo_dems @ 43:
Most don't, but some from all over the world, do.
mo_dems @ 43:
You are living in the real world?
What's it like?
I am living in the US. Can i get directions?
jasonG @ 6:
We need a link for that?
xoites defends Constitution @ 46:
Hello xiotes, I might be able to give you directions. I hope I can give some to mo dems. We have to find a way to work together.
Hi Ron, i was directing that at someone conviced he is living in the real world and you, somehow, are not.
Now THIS is interesting.
The people who do not like Ron Paul site one of their reasons as "he is pro-life".
He is not pro-life, he merely wants the states to decide what people should do. Having said this, he recently was given an endorsement from someone. You are not going to believe this, but Ron Paul now has the endorsement of none other than Jane Roe from the Roe Vs. Wade court case!!
http://www.bloggernews.net/113294
The world is fucked up man...
I live in Missouri. You either have to drive North, East, South, or West to get here.
Directions to the real world? Just look for people with no jobs and no hope, and you'll be there.
Drew @ 50:
I am not against Ron Paul because he wants to lock up women who have abortions so much as i am against him because he calls black people "animals," although what he wants to do to women who terminate their pregnancies is pretty repugnant too.
mo_dems @ 51:
It may not be everthing, but you at least have the internet for a look at the real world.
mo_dems @ 51:
No. That is the real fucked up world. The real world is where people have jobs, job security, a pension, a safe place for their kids to play, health care, and connections to the people around them and beyond. We are living in a nightmare created by greedy, controling, short sighted and narrow minded megolamaniacs.
xoites defends Constitution @ 49:
You think I'm not? What do you think the kind of world I live in. I have been somewhat successful in convincing people in what I believe in and some of them make better decisions because of me. Does that make me a bad guy?
xoites defends Constitution @ 52:
Well, he won't lock them up because there will be no federal law for it. Either way, he's out of the picture.
Second, those pamphlets have already been shown as not being from him.
xoites defends Constitution @ 54:
Sorry, but what you're describing is fantasy. I'm talking about the real world. A real world that hasn't changed in 30 years. My neighbors, the Hemkins', eat roadkill during winter (deer). Across the river, where Obama's the senator, foodstamps are the norm; "connections" and "health care" and "job security" are not. In fact, they just shut down most of East St. Louis' only hospital. They'll shut down the entire hospital by May. When I say "real world" I mean it.
I think it's a damn well written analysis.
A masterpiece even.
Then again I so like to be a pompous ass...
Ron @ 55:
Sorry. That did not come off the way i meant it. I meant he thinks somehow that you are not living in the real world and i disagree with him.
Drew @ 56:
"Proven?"
Someone was plotting against him all throught the 1980's and 1990's to screw up his run for President in 2008?
mo_dems @ 57:
I was being a little sarcastic and a little ironic. In some sense the real world is what we, as a society make it. What we can make it is something the people who rule us never want to see. Until we create the "real world" that can exist if we can just see it and figure out how to grasp it we are going to live in this world which is full of suffering and fear and doubt. Yes, we are right where they want us.
For now.
xoites defends Constitution @ 60:
No there was no "plot" anticipating things (as far as I can tell).
But he is a staunch libertarian, his idols are those who engage in civil disobedience. On MLK day, he raised almost $2 million. I think those pamphlets were dug up by his detractors for political purposes. They are more than 10 years old, and some people were just waiting for the perfect time to release them on an uninformed public. People that know him know he didn't write them...
Drew @ 62:
He just put his name on them...
Tell, please. How many times has Ron Paul been arrested for Civil Disobedience? And in what context?
I can tell you how many times. Zero.
xoites defends Constitution @ 63:
He's a friggin Congressman dude, if he got arrested for civil disobedience, what would it be for? And he didn't put his name on them. He said that went back to medicine, other people wrote them. I trust him. Seems like an honest guy. But there is a small chance of course that he did write them, but even so, I think that isn't bad for the country, especially since he absolutely abhors the discrimination of the court system. He wants to release all people who got sent to prison for drug charges. That means over 60% of the prison population, who are black, will be freed. He is also NOT opposed to gay marriage.
The guy is all about freedom man, there is no way he is racist, just listen to him. He's over 70 years old, he was reluctant to run, but freedom got hold, and now he is racist? It makes no sense to me.
We live in a country where it is not very difficult to stand up for what you believe in. Perhaps coincidently we live in a country where it is not that difficult to get arrested. If you feel strongly enough about something to lay it on the line getting arrested for what you believe in is not very hard. Idolizing someome for doing something as simple as that does not impress me very much.
Oh, he's a Congressman.
" Five members of Congress, including Rep. Tom Lantos (D-San Mateo) were arrested today when they blocked the front entrance at the Embassy of Sudan in Washington, D.C. "
Congress members never get arrested.
"The Thursday announcement by President Bush that the Navy will cease bombing the Puerto Rican island of Vieques by May of 2003 is "a sham, and nothing but a public affairs job by the White House," according to United States Congressman Luis Gutierrez. Congressman Gutierrez (4th District, Illinois) was arrested on April 28th as part of a group demonstrating against the Navy's 61-year use of Vieques for bombing practice."
If Ron Paul is against the War in Iraq and idolizes people who commit Civil Disobedience why didn't he join these folks?
Seven Arrested at White House Protest against Iraq War
He wants to be President. He wants to end taxes. Taxes pay his salary right now and would if he became President. Somehow i see a man capable of almost anything but putting his money where his mouth is. And from what i have read that came out of his mouth there is not enough toothpaste at Walmart to clean it up.
alanj878 @ 71:
Oh, we have to do things in the proper ORDER!
Give us a run down on the schedule, please.
Oh, i know. First we have to fix everything; the economy, the environment, terrorism, the drugs trade that props up Wall Street, get homeless people housing, Universal Health Care and then we can ease into a black President. First we can get a tan President, you know, a good glowing tan. Eight years later we can go for a Latino President...No, can't do that. Lou Dobbs would keel over. Ok, no black President, too much to think about.
xoites defends Constitution (taken out of context @ 66):
Thanks xoites, for helping us remember the treasures we do have left.
Oh, look at this! Ron Paul could have joined these folks two weeks ago.
January 11th 2008 Witness Against Torture - Chicago
CHICAGO – January 11 — 10 arrests were made at the Dirksen Federal Courthouse in Chicago.
A Citizens’ Indictment was delivered to Chief Judge Holderman seeking relief for violations of international and domestic law by the United States and the City of Chicago. Specifically, the Indictment cited the use of torture by the United States in the so-called “global war on terror” and by the City of Chicago Police Department for its systematic practice of torture between 1971 and 1993, and on-going abuse of individuals.
The arrests were made as those who presented the Citizens’ Indictment read the names of detainees held by the United States at Guantanamo and the names of survivors of torture at the hands of the Chicago Police Department.
fiver @ 75:
Finding the courage to stand up and face the consequences of your most deeply held beliefs is actually one of the most trancending experiences one could ever have and is indeed something to be treasured.
Drew @ 50:
You are incorrect. Ron Paul is indeed pro-life. Moreover, he believes that under the Constitution, even under his anti-Incorporation-Doctrine, the federal government does have the power to outlaw abortion.
I am all for people understanding Paul's libertarian views, especially his understanding of federalism. (Ask the regulars here. I'm the one constantly harping on fellow progressives for their reluctance to understand or work with libertarians.) And I once had the same understanding of Paul's abortion views as you. A fellow C&L-er pointed out my error by leading me to his website.
Ron Paul would have the federal government outlaw abortion.
As for Jane Roe, she long ago converted to some form of Christianity that opposed abortion, and has been an anti-abortion activist for quite a while.
xoites defends Constitution @ 77:
Wow. Heavy for this time of night. But you're not alone... I'll just be a bit more pro-active after some shut-eye. Good night. Peace.
Good Night fiver.
Karen, i have a difficult time reconciling Libertarianism with Socialism. In fact it is probably impossible.
Ron Paul was where?
Former Congressmen Arrested By Wal-Mart Manager For Protesting The Store Where A Decriminalization Petitioner Was Arrested Days Before
Congressman arrested at New York police brutality protest
Ex-mayor also among 13 detained
March 15, 1999
Web posted at: 3:28 p.m. EST (2028 GMT)
NEW YORK (CNN) -- Rep. Charles Rangel (D-New York) and former New York City Mayor David Dinkins were among at least 13 people arrested on Monday at a rally against police brutality.
Blue Lensman? Why? are the Eddorians attacking again?
Show your butt to Bush!
U.S. REP. BOBBY RUSH ARRESTED AT SUDANESE EMBASSY
Mounting Protests against Sudanese Genocide
xoites defends Constitution @ 81:
I do not argue that Socialism and Libertarianism can be reconciled. At least not as the terms are currently understood. (Interestingly, though, Libertarianism can trace its roots to certain French Socialist movements whose members believed that people would experience far more liberty under regimes that believed in civil libertarianism and progressive economics. I tend to agree, but I digress.)
What I advocate is first for progressives to recognize the various kinds of libertarian ideologies that exist. (It is a strictly American understanding of libertarianism as the orthodox, Libertarian Party platform. Other western democracies are familiar with left-wing libertarians.)
Secondly, I advocate that progressives recognize that they can form a strategic alliance with libertarians in order to combat the authoritarians who, in my opinion, constitute the true threat to all of our freedoms and rights in this country. At the moment, authoritarians have aligned with libertarians to form the Republican machine that has been the bane of all of our existences for so long. But progressives and libertarians can indeed work together against the authoritarians, and doing so would help a great deal in stopping neo-cons, theocrats and the like.
And finally, my own politics mark a synthesis of libertarianism and progressivism. I'm a libertarian progressive.
I have writings on my humble site if you're interested. :)
The wonderful thing about Civil Disobedience is you don't have to raise a lot of money and get elected to do it.
Antiwar Protesters Arrested Near Bush Ranch
Of course if you do raise a lot of money and get elected you can have someone else arrested.
Huckabee Has Anti-War Protesters Arrested.
You can find a particular member of the Administration to focus your grievences upon.
Protesters arrested at Gonzales speech
Or a member of the co called opposition.
Anti-war protesters arrested at Pelosi’s office
The options are almost endless.
The thing is, if you make a serious decision to get arrested for non violent civil disobedience do not expect to directly change the world. You will however have an affect on some people and in some cases it can be a profound affect. Your close friends, your relatives, the arresting officers, the judge, (if you choose to plead not guilty) the jury, and most importantly yourself.
Getting arrested for a misdemeanor in protest of an injustice will not reflect badly on you in the long run. It is not a scott free situation nor is it without risks. You can be sentenced to time (but if you have no prior convicts unlikely) and there may be some around you who might think you are nuts or radical. You will lose some time at work. Depending on the situation you could be assaulted by the police.
Don't get arrested alone and don't get arrested your first time without someone with experience.
Be non violent, no matter what.
And leave your prescription drugs at home. They won't let you keep them anyway. They will charge you with "possesion of a controlled substance" and drop it later, just so the press can write it up and make you look bad.
xoites defends Constitution @ 88:
You know, this is actually part of my personal reluctance to get arrested. I have some serious medical problems, and I cannot be without my medications. I can't risk having them taken from me for a period of time. And I do know of the problems some of my clients have had trying to get access to the meds they need in jail or prison.
I'll have to content myself to defending the brave people like you when your day in court comes. :)
Karen @ 89:
Then don't get arrested. Folks like you are great at doing support. You can keep track of where those who do get arrested are, make sure they have lawyers if they want them and (as a group) figuring out who best to talk to the press. A serious protest with people getting arrested requires a good support team.
When i say, "folks like you," i also mean non lawyers. Many people can not risk arrest but those who can and do fair much better with people who can not on their side.
After watching our "democratic process" once again i feel the time for direct non violent action is our only hope. The war rages on, the candidates not shunned by the press offer us nothing and the country (in general and in particular) is going down the drain. All we have is left is what we are willing to risk.
xoites defends Constitution @ 92:
When in the course of human events . . . . . . . . lives, fortunes, sacred honors. ;)
People often wonder aloud, here, why we are not at the White House gates with pitchforks. I wonder why we are not conspiring together to shut the whole thing down until we get the results we all scream for.
There was a guy who posted here on an open thread last week. I believe his name is JJohnson. He was suffering from bi-polar and was in a real funk.
I haven't seen him on any of the threads, does anyone know if he's OK?
A lot of "revisionist history" is being spread lately in regards to Reagan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ElectoralCollege1984-Large.png
When you look at the image, keep in mind that Mondale took MN by less than 5000 votes. The truth of the matter is Reagan brought the country together, kept the country together, and people loved him for it. Aside from Obama being sane and civil, there's are lots of other reasons for him to be invoking Reagan's name in a positive light.
Drew @ 65:
That right there is the funniest part of that entire post.
see video: There are better candidates than Hillary and Obama
Watching MSNBC as a monitor for the public, we all need to take responsibility and report to the electorate, those who actively participate in conversations in this blog on the Internet, especially Crooks and Liars. Of which I’m glad to be able to participate in.
This is the way it seems the trend is going, that is creating a huge realization leading to new strategies by Mainstream Media to control the news with inspired sound bites etched with video clips of bias, topped with criticism from the Media Mercenaries the leading characters “Joe in the Morning” contracted by MSNBC to develop public opinion rather than report.
Staged video clips where Joe can say “McCain is likeable, and Hillary is not”. Are typical snits and sham remarks that are very personal, divisive, and especially an unhealthy irresponsible way abusing the mission the public granted corporations through operating with license in the electromagnetic public domain.
Even Rush Limbaugh is on a rant calling himself irrelevant, isn’t that wild, because even Limbaugh is depressed when he knows everyone now works from his personal play book of smear, deceit, and best of all context twisting using the technology of the public domain electromagnetic spectrum to weave sound bites and video clips. Now across the board Media henchmen and most anchors are all using the play book of smear deliberately twisting context to form public opinion rather then report.
MSNBC, along with most others is doing to what Limbaugh has done for decades and got away with. When someone is in a news clips and broadcast, the end report is a complete evaluation of what was really said, incredible, the Media persons are now telling what that news clip really meant to say, which usually has some updated pole with numbers verify and modify ideals to render reasoning to their end.
MSNBC on one end of the spectrum is wildly casting the direction of the election with blazing saddles, wild horse power in bias and yuk it up with toxic personal conversation snits. On the other end MSNBC has criticism of its competing players like the Countdown categories of worse, or worst on the Medium. Here America essentially has licensed operations in the public domain that one could conclude in ways that are hazardous to American health. With toxic mental reasoning going in and toxic reasoning waste coming out all Mainstream Media should be captioned with very clear warning banners that these broadcasts maybe hazardous to your health. Sheesh, maybe a new tax source instead of cigarettes.
xoites defends Constitution @ 72:
No wonder you don't support him, you don't understand him. Don't feel bad though, most people on this site misquote or misstate his objectives. He isn't for, and never has been for, ending all taxes. He wants to end the FEDERAL income tax. Even with the federal income tax gone, the federal government would still be collecting other kinds of taxes.
peaceful easy feeling @ 96:
Supplying, supporting, and training Osama Bin Laden during the eighties is not what history can call uniting. Also, Reagan just gave free immagration a reason now to take a hard look at how those effects the economics of America. Was it good for the few or was it good for everyone. For Obama to even hype Reagan principles as good, which were not is incredible.
100 Greatest Quotes from fundamentalist christian chat rooms: http://duggmirror.com/comedy/100_Greatest_Quotes_from_fundamentalist_chr...
noitaluspacne @ 99:
Thankfully the point is moot because freakjob squarepants has been successfully shut out by his own party.
At least we can thank the reslugs for THAT much.
Daily Reading pt 1....
A new international ranking of environmental performance puts the United States at the bottom of the Group of 8 industrialized nations and 39th among the 149 countries on the list. Why aren't the Dem Presidential candidates talking more about the environment? Beats us.
- http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/washington/23enviro.html?_r=2&th&emc=t...
The United States, with a score of 81.0, he noted, “is slipping down,” both because of low scores on three different analyses of greenhouse gas emissions and a pervasive problem with smog. The country’s performance on a new indicator that measures regional smog, he said, “is at the bottom of the world right now.”
Study: False statements preceded war - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_on_go_pr_wh/misinformation_study;...
A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.
Just further confirmation, it was all about the Oil, and a 'free market' windfall pillaging in chaotic Iraq
Sibel Edmonds claims to have uncovered a covert network of senior American officials who transferred nuclear secrets to third parties. Under a DOJ gag order for five years, she is roundly being ignored by the American media, but the story is breaking in London. Sibel Edmonds is winner of this week's BuzzFlash Wings of Justice Award.
- http://wingsofjustice.com/08/01/woj08004.html
The Lowdown on Topsoil: It's Disappearing - http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/348200_dirt22.html
The planet is getting skinned. While many worry about the potential consequences of atmospheric warming, a few experts are trying to call attention to another global crisis quietly taking place under our feet. Call it the thin brown line. Dirt. On average, the planet is covered with little more than 3 feet of topsoil — the shallow skin of nutrient-rich matter that sustains most of our food and appears to play a Critical Role In Supporting Life on Earth.
We either start being better stewards of the Earth....or the sixth extinction is going to kick your door in...
Bush Becomes Supplicant for Saudi's Aid to Help Avoid Recession - http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aM.skMXbD0KQ&refer=home
The Saudi monarchy once depended on the U.S. to protect its reign and its oil from foes like Saddam Hussein. These days, George W. Bush needs the world's biggest exporter of crude more than it needs him. Bush has become a supplicant for Saudi financial help. He also needs the kingdom to support political stability in Iraq. Craig Unger, author of "House of Bush, House of Saud" and "The Fall of the House of Bush." says of Bush, "He's in a much weaker position now, and he has very little leverage."
The myth of Deregulation and the Financial Crisis: by Robert Weissman - http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/01/22/6531/
It would be nice to write off the current crisis on Wall Street and global financial markets as something that only matters to the investor class. Unfortunately, the Effects Are Already Being Felt In Lower-Income Communities around the United States. Worst-Case Scenarios for what spins out from the U.S. mortgage meltdown are Truly Frightening — A Severe World Recession Is A Distinct Possibility.
The Five Failures: Regulatory Failure Number One: Failure to Manage the U.S. Trade Deficit. Regulatory Failure Number Two: Failure to Intervene to Pop the Housing Bubble. Regulatory Failure Number Three: Financial Deregulation and Unchecked Financial “Innovation.” Regulatory Failure Number Four: Private Regulatory Failure. Regulatory Failure Number Five: No Controls Over Predatory Lenders.
You'll see exactly what happens as the result of this country's leaders/captains of industry embracing Reaganomics/Bushonomics/Supply Side BS-Trickle Down fantasyland 'free market'/corporatist decisions....
Going Bankrupt: Why the Debt Crisis Is Now the Greatest Threat to the American Republic, By Chalmers Johnson - http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174884
David Sirota: The Politics of Hopelessness - http://www.credoaction.com/sirota/2008/01/the_politics_of_hopelessness.html
Daily Reading pt 2...
Not a surprise #47: Missing White House E-mails Match Plame Time Frames - http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/012208A.shtml
Bob Cesca: President Bush Shouldn't Play With Sharp Objects - http://www.tvnewslies.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=45957&sid=c37eaa2b255865...
President Bush, who has resolved to both reduce our addiction to oil and to spread democracy to the Middle East, had to skulk around with the Saudi royals -- like freakin' Gollum with an ill-favored look -- begging for more precious evildoer oil.
That's what the con-servatives want for the United States....Saudi Arabia, with a different religion as law....
Why John McCain = GWBush: Jacob Heilbrunn: John McCain, Neocon. McCain represents for the neocons the ultimate synthesis of war hero and politician. And McCain, in turn, has been increasingly drawn to the neocons' militaristic vision of the U.S. as an empire that can set wrong aright around the globe.
- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-heilbrunn/john-mccain-neocon_b_82530...
U.S. Military Officials: Don't be fooled into thinking the 'surge has worked': US Military Breaks Ranks: A salvo at the White House - http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JA23Ak02.html
"But military officers say that the American public should not be fooled: the relative quiet in Iraq - and it is, after all, only a 'relative quiet' - does not mean the 'surge' has worked, or that the problems facing the US military have somehow magically gone away. Quite the opposite."
Brent Budowsky: The economic crisis - http://thehill.com/brent-budowsky/the-economic-crisis-2008-01-22.html
The U.S. Federal Reserve instituted a ¾ of a percentage point cut, the biggest rate cut in more than 23 years, in a frantic attempt to fight the recession - http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSN2218187420080122
The Edwards Factor: Is There A Push To Dump Remaining Dems While GOPers Linger? - http://www.allthingsdemocrat.com/2008/01/22/the-edwards-factor-is-there-...
"Interestingly enough, I did NOT support Edwards in 2004 though I came to support the Kerry-Edwards’ ticket simply because Edwards was on it and I saw a progressive-ism growing in him that seemed utterly absent from Kerry. The Edwards running today is a much-changed man, I believe, from 2004 and I do NOT believe this is an act. John Edwards’ approach on universal health care, the working class, and so many other issues."
The Vanguard.org's Rod Martin unplugged: A conservative insider's take on the GOP presidential contest, the state of the conservative movement, and MoveOn.org
- http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/1/22/94646/8614
Dave Zirin: Is the NFL on the Right Team? - http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-op-zirin20jan20,1,63...
Sicko & No End in Sight nominated for best documentary (Oscars) - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080122/ap_on_en_mo/oscar_nominations_34
Rumor Mill: Clinton, Edwards hold private post-debate meeting - http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/22/clinton-edwards-hold-pri...
A reminder of why you have to vote Democratic in next election: 35th Anniversary of Roe Vs. Wade - http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/896242.html
Orangutan. @ 15:
Did you people ever see the anti-communist movies Reagan voiced? Talk about pure crap. Do a search online, and they are there somewhere. The man was a murderous sack of crap. He's loved cuz he was senile when selected Prez. I'm just surprised his wife never ran for Prez.
Speak the truth...it helps you stay sane: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-869183917758574879
MEMO
TO: Democratic Candidates
Subject: STFU, Already!
So this is just another example of how bankrupt "conservative" ideology really is. Conservatives are ALWAYS on the wrong side of history:
* During the American Revolution, the conservatives supported the Crown and opposed independence
* During the American Civil war, the conservatives opposed the end of slavery and supported the Confederacy
* Before the US entered WWI, conservatives were happily selling arms to all sides and wanted the US to remain neutral
* Before the US entered WWII, conservatives - including the grandfather of Dubya - were gunrunning for the Nazis and were showering Hitler with praise. Some even went so far - again, including Prescott Bush - to plan to overthrow the US government, kick FDR out of office and set up a fascist state here in America.
* Conservatives were opposed to granting women the right to vote.
* Conservatives were opposed to giving blacks the right to vote.
* Conservatives were opposed to civil rights and equal rights under the law for blacks.
* Conservatives were opposed - and STILL oppose - the Equal Rights Amendment.
* Conservatives loved Saddam when he was fighting against Iran, but hated him and made him into Enemy #1 when it suited them.
* Conservatives loved Osama bin Laden and the Taliban when they were fighting the Soviets, but hated them once the Soviets were pushed out.
I could go on and on and on, but I think that you get the point. For conservatives, it is like they are always looking in the rear-view window and are trying to claim successes for themselves that were actually the product of work by progressives and liberals to make the world a better place. Them claiming that MLK was a conservative is just another example of this nonsense. I wish that Americans really understood their own history and had attention spans longer than a 30 second soundbite.
peaceful easy feeling @ 96:
The truth is Reagan brought the editors of the news media together like never before and they have been together ever since. As one who was arrested in Reagan's White House twice i beg to differ with your drivel.
Well......wonder if the media will continue to ignore these things? Or does it matter when you have NeoCON Mrs. Bill supporters.
http://blog.johnedwards.com/story/2007/10/21/191718/77
Walter Mondale had (among other things) the unfortunate appearence of a hamster, a spinal column reminicient of Pelosi's and the same manipulative press we have today. Only back then people were less aware of its manipulations.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_on_go_pr_wh/misinformation_study
Man that Clinton presidency was filed will a few lies
Necadawg Says @ 110:
Bush isn't running for President.
"Bernanke endorsed the concept of a short-term economic stimulus package, but he cautioned that the money must be spent correctly: "You'd hope that [consumers] would spend it on things that are domestically produced so that the spending power doesn't go elsewhere.""
This is a fucking joke. How many times have we heard how 'good' it is for all of us that everything comes from China now. Everything is so 'cheap'. How many times have we heard that off-shoring our high paying jobs is 'good' for us, it makes our companies more competetive. Suddenly the fed is hoping we spend it on domesticaly produced consumer goods. They want money spent locally? How about cutting exec pay and paying the help more? How about we make our own brooms and mops, shirts and chairs, tv's and radios. We all know the answer to the last two questions I possed. This is what happens when the entire economy is
"Wall-Marted", the race to the bottom continues, and the average U.S. citizens are way out in front....
MargeAggedon @ 103:
Yes, we should thank the GOP party for turning a cold shoulder to the only candidate that is for protecting liberty, bringing our troops home, and adopting a fiscal policy that isn't based on debasing our currency. Thank goodness, that the only presidential candidates that were against the Iraq war from the start, and that voted against the Patriot Act are no longer considered viable candidates. Thank goodness we don't have to think anymore... now that the candidates are all saying the same thing we can get back to the more important issues of who has the best hair and who is "sounds" presidential.
noitaluspacne @ 116:
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what'd you say again?
Representative Dennis J. Kucinich of Ohio may get excluded from Democratic presidential debates, as he has been recently, but no one can deny him the floor in the House.
And today Mr. Kucinich took to the floor to fire off his latest salvo at the Bush administration: his plans to introduce Articles of Impeachment against President Bush on Jan. 28 — the day of Mr. Bush’s State of the Union speech. cont.
Thank God somebody is doing something to get us some justice.
FireDogLake
http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/23/late-nite-fdl-obama-suggests-his-suppo...
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From Daily Kos...
"Wow. Lorna Brett Howard, who apparently used to be the President of the Chicago chapter of NOW, has taped a pretty devastating account of why she recently switched from supporitng Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama.Her final statement was what really cuts to the core: She said that she's supporting Obama now because he's 100% pro-choice AND 100% honest."
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/23/213221/309/346/442059
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NV Clinton campaign: "It's not illegal unless they tell you so"
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/23/164530/670/481/441908
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From The Las Vegas Sun...
Kucinich should have been in the debate, it is now felt.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jan/23/rush-judgment-kucinich-debate/
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D’Vorre and Hal Ober Elementary Principal Scott Ober sits near a portrait of his parents on Tuesday. According to Ober, Clinton campaign volunteers or workers covered up the image of his mother with a campaign poster and plastered the campus with more posters.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jan/23/principal-appalled-mess-cauc...
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