And hockaloogy is going to walk on the River Jordan to miraculously turn the WMD's into Priuses by magick?

Huck wouldn't know if it the WMDs where up his ass.

It depresses me that people will swallow this tripe. There is a small percent of people who will parrot this and the next thing you know, people will be putting plastic on their windows. The fear and the hysteria of the Bush years will be over soon( not soon enough). But we lived through the most destressing time of our generation. Let's be a lot wiser in the years to come.

one of these wmd should be placed firmly if possible up each and every gop butt,
set to explode on the very next lie they tell. i would suggest that we place one
each up bush and cheney's butts, but they would explode on insertion.

The evidence is nonmaterial. The citizens of USA get arrested everyday for just having a can of beer. Why it is legal to buy it, by just having it you are a criminal. Two faced republican double speak. IT IS EVIL CASE CLOSED.

Oh Hell NO!

Jordan is a good country.

The late King Hussein of Jordan was a great man.

He son would never allow WMD to enter his country unless he had complete control of them.

Someone once said, You can't fix stupid. Huck is living proof of that statement. Last night when talking about the WMD in Iraq, he said we haven't found them yet. Just because you don't find an Easter egg doesn't mean none were hidden.

This is the kind of fodder that bush's base feeds on daily. They'll repeat this crap like a game of gossip. Pretty soon we will hear they found Saddam's WMD in Jordan.

The Democrats did not argue for the Iraq war. The President did and the GOP supported him. Any Democrat that believed the WMD garbage was the Victim of a lying president, just as the Huckster will lie, and not the author of the concept. The GOP'ers are losing it. The WMD scam is too recent to rewrite it.

P.D. @ 4:

It depresses me that people will swallow this tripe. There is a small percent of people who will parrot this and the next thing you know, people will be putting plastic on their windows. The fear and the hysteria of the Bush years will be over soon( not soon enough). But we lived through the most destressing time of our generation. Let's be a lot wiser in the years to come.

the fear and hysteria not to mention the devastation of our economy, world stature and our Constitution will affect our lives for many years. we will be digging out of fuck-everything-up-bush/cheney bullshit for decades. and if you think things will just magically get better overnight when bush/cheney leave office, i suggest that you go
home and seal all your windows and doors AIRTIGHT. and if you can survice without oxygen, good for you, but i think NOT.

That assertion is just as loony, unsupported, fantastical, and conspiratorial as anything you'll ever hear on Art Bell, and anyone pushing that line *should* be presented as a quack.

Conspiracy theories aren't considered kooky in our corporate media when they're convenient for corporatist politicians. Odd how that works.

All them AAArabs look alike to Huck. Any one of them would be glad to hold and store another's WMDs till they need them back.

Speaking of crazy shit in Fla....
Dave Weldon retired hours after his daughter was arrested for assaulting a patron of the County Line Saloon in Melbourne, Fla., with her shoe.

pissed off patricia @ 12:

Someone once said, You can't fix stupid. Huck is living proof of that statement. Last night when talking about the WMD in Iraq, he said we haven't found them yet. Just because you don't find an Easter egg doesn't mean none were hidden.

This is the kind of fodder that bush's base feeds on daily. They'll repeat this crap like a game of gossip. Pretty soon we will hear they found Saddam's WMD in Jordan.

i believe judge judy said and contiunes to say just that, "you can't fix stupid."

Jeez dadams, didn't mean to piss you off.

My question for this interview is why didn't Matthews trap him? I am guessing Huckabee had no idea that Jordan was an ally until Matthews told him that. Matthews should have asked (without giving Jordan's background): "Do you really think that the WMDs are in Jordan?" Then, depending on how Huckabee answered, he could ask him if he thought an ally of the United States would do that or, if he said it was a hypothetical, he could have asked Huckabee where he thought they were. I would bet a lot of money had Matthews asked if they were in Jordan (without the background), Huckabee would have said yes.

Why did Matthews not ask him to follow up on his "slaughter" comment and how could he allow him to use the "finish the job" talking point again? Who would do the slaughtering and who would they slaughter? What is the "job" and when will it be finished? Has anyone ever answered those questions?

This guy is out of his fucking mind!

Huckabee: I think it’s more likely that the WMDs—that we know that he at one time had—he used weapons against the Kurds—good chance they went to Jordan. We don’t know where they are. But the point is there was every reason to believe that they were there at the time. And it wasn’t just the President or the Republicans who believed that and who acted upon it. It was the Democrats as well. I think for now for people to say, ‘well, we didn’t find them,’ no, that we didn’t. But the other side of that is we’re there. Let’s not make a situation worse by pulling out and leaving Iraq in a very unstable situation and having it erupt throughout the Middle East and giving al Qaida a base and really betraying the trust that many Iraqi peolehave put in us because they have believed we would not abandon them and leave them to the slaughter that they would likely be subject to.

We don't know where they are - No? But you think they might be in Jordan. Maybe they're in Greenland, or Tibet, or Malta, or maybe not, but let's invade those fucking places too just to be sure. Asshole.

Yeah, pulling out would be so terrible. Let's see -
Iraq unstable - check. Already accomplished that.
Giving al Qaida a base - check. Got that too.
Betraying the trust of the Iraqi people - check. Yep, they pretty much hate our fucking guts now.

So pulling out would make things worse how exactly?

Way to shill for the continuation of the NWO, you tool.

more at my blog...

lol why the hell would Saddams WDMs be in Jordan? Should the US invade Jordan then?

P.D. @ 24:

Jeez dadams, didn't mean to piss you off.

not the least at you, just that group of gop'er who will continue
this reign of ignorance, which is oh so apparent in the gop pres candidates.

More of the crazy shit here in Fla.

http://www.flatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080125/BREAKINGNEWS/80125022&template=news0308

johnnyboy @ 26:

My question for this interview is why didn't Matthews trap him? I am guessing Huckabee had no idea that Jordan was an ally until Matthews told him that. Matthews should have asked (without giving Jordan's background): "Do you really think that the WMDs are in Jordan?" Then, depending on how Huckabee answered, he could ask him if he thought an ally of the United States would do that or, if he said it was a hypothetical, he could have asked Huckabee where he thought they were. I would bet a lot of money had Matthews asked if they were in Jordan (without the background), Huckabee would have said yes.

Why did Matthews not ask him to follow up on his "slaughter" comment and how could he allow him to use the "finish the job" talking point again? Who would do the slaughtering and who would they slaughter? What is the "job" and when will it be finished? Has anyone ever answered those questions?

matthews can't trap crap with toilet tissue.

[Deleted. Abusive-Sitemonitor]

Ring ting,
ting, tring

Hello Huckabee?! The Iraqi people haven't and don't trust us since Bush 41 left them high and dry AND the slaughter has already taken place under our noses - it's called ethnic cleansing."

someone get this guy an atlas so he knows which country to invade

or maybe not....since Bush invaded the wrong country too.

The neocon line is that Saddam Hussein was building WMD's to kill Americans, yet when 130,000 Americans went marching into his country he decided that instead of using them and killing Americans with them, as were led to believe he would.. he instead decided that they should be shipped out the country? Saddam Hussein was evil enough to build WMD's, kill all these people, but hesitated to use these "existing" and "catastrophic" weapons in a time when they'd of been of the most use to him?

Honestly, these people have no logic, it's insane.

Jordan??

What a silly man Huckabee is. Anyone with a brain knows the WMDs are hidden under the Arctic ice, in Superman's Fortress of Solitude.

Along with the UFOs and dead aliens from Roswell, the Arc of the Covenant, the Holy Grail, George W. Bush's National Guard service records and Dick Cheney's conscience.

ysbaddaden @ 11:

So now we'll attack and occupy Michael Jordan's mansion?

Nice one!

after hearing sweet nothing going into his ears abut taxes.. all I can say is... he doesn't know a damn thing.

You guys are idiots @ 38:

You guys don't know if there were weapons there or not. Quit acting like you fucking "knew" that there were no weapons there. Nobody knows but those that put them there! Is it so hard to believe that Saddam really had WMD? You are the gullible ones thinking that everything is all ice cream and roses. So what if they keep re-hashing talking points. They are good points! Learn to compromise and pull your heads out of your asses.

Compromise about the truth? Are you sure you want to go there?

The weapons inspectors were there and they found nothing of value. The US invaded and there were people who did nothing but search for those weapons that Rumsfeld said we knew were there and he said we knew where they were. Okay, it's been almost five years and none have been found. I'm guessing there were none. The only reason we have our heads up our asses is to help search for those weapons. We're just trying to help. They have about as much chance being hidden in our asses as being hidden in Jordan. :)

"And, such as" :lol:

You guys are idiots@38 Still trying to justify destroying that country. What a complete dumb ass! Jerks like you represent the very worst of this nation. We will clean up your mess asshole.

Ian McGarrett @ 54:

Just because people believed the lies doesn't make them true. As for al Qaeda being in Iraq, the Iraqis don't want them there... it is the Americans who want them there. As president Bush is so fond of pointing out we are fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here.

The infamous, "Bring 'em on" helped too. Bush in so many words invited al Qaeda to come and fight in Iraq. So they RSVP-ed and arrived on time.

Actually, Elvis is hiding them.

I think everyone can recall what happened the last time Americans voted for someone who didn't know shit from shine-ola about foreign policy.

You guys are idiots @ 38:

You guys don't know if there were weapons there or not. Quit acting like you fucking "knew" that there were no weapons there. Nobody knows but those that put them there! Is it so hard to believe that Saddam really had WMD? You are the gullible ones thinking that everything is all ice cream and roses. So what if they keep re-hashing talking points. They are good points! Learn to compromise and pull your heads out of your asses.

It's a cinch Iraq had these weapons at one time. The USA was one of many that made sure he had them to us against Iran.

After Desert Storm, weapons inspections and age of weapons not to mention 5 years of US occupation, anyone with an IQ above that of a plant can figure out there are none left. Amazing that there are still Americans that fall for this BS.

Don't forget....Saddam flew one of the planes into the WTC, or did he?

Max-1 @ 62:

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Up-Chuck-abee, the great Chrisyian orator, supports war and lying.

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If that wouldn't make the baby jesus cry, I don't know what would.

This will be a big surprise to the Jordanians.

Why doesn't God just tell Huckleberry where they are? Who's side is God on, anyway?

C'mon God, get with the program!

andy @ 66:

He's been watching John Bolton on fox news, clueless twat.

Oh yuck...that piece of trash is right up there with Cheney as a corrupt lying POS. He lies, then he lies about his lies, then lies some more. I recall watching him lie on Jon Stewart's show. The look on his own face was one of..." I don't even believe this tripe"

You guys are idiots @ 38:

You guys don't know if there were weapons there or not. Quit acting like you fucking "knew" that there were no weapons there. Nobody knows but those that put them there! Is it so hard to believe that Saddam really had WMD? You are the gullible ones thinking that everything is all ice cream and roses. So what if they keep re-hashing talking points. They are good points! Learn to compromise and pull your heads out of your asses.

Actually, I did know the weapons were unlikely since the inspectors were allowed back in, and David Kaye thought they were actually surprising Iraqis with their inspections that were turning up nothing.

And then when I heard about all the frooferal about yellow cake and aluminum tubes were being overstated.

As soon as David Kay's inspections were turning successful it seemed we couldn't go to war fast enough, because boosh saw his causa belli unraveling like a ball of yarn by a kitten jazzed up on catnip and black coffee.

Remember the last guy who "knew" where the WMD were?

Rumsfeld: "We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."

It went from 'Saddam has weapons of mass destruction" to "Saddam had ambitions to obtain weapons of mass destruction" I don't know what the phrase of the day is today.

ysbaddaden @ 71:

You guys are idiots @ 38:

You guys don't know if there were weapons there or not. Quit acting like you fucking "knew" that there were no weapons there. Nobody knows but those that put them there! Is it so hard to believe that Saddam really had WMD? You are the gullible ones thinking that everything is all ice cream and roses. So what if they keep re-hashing talking points. They are good points! Learn to compromise and pull your heads out of your asses.

Actually, I did know the weapons were unlikely since the inspectors were allowed back in, and David Kaye thought they were actually surprising Iraqis with their inspections that were turning up nothing.

And then when I heard about all the frooferal about yellow cake and aluminum tubes were being overstated.

As soon as David Kay's inspections were turning successful it seemed we couldn't go to war fast enough, because boosh saw his causa belli unraveling like a ball of yarn by a kitten jazzed up on catnip and black coffee.

The military had to attack while the nation was completely defenseless. Years of sanctions, followed by daily bombing runs, followed by KNOWING there was no way Iraq could defend itself, all contributed to the Oil run. Now oil on the world stage is high, wallets are fattened, and control of Iraq's oil is in the bank. Perfect. Next.

QuakerDave @ 68:

This guy couldn't find Jordan with an atlas, a GPS, a flashlight, and an entire high school geography class. Remember that he didn't know where Pakistan is, either.

he can't find his ass either, except that he thinks it's an automatic dinner dispenser.

reichwingers can't get their lies straight. Last I heard WMD's were in Syria (at least they're our enemies).

Next thing we'll know publicans will say we can be the first kids on our block to get WMD's from boxes of specially marked Lucky Charms, hopefully without needing proof of purchase boxtops.

Huck should have said that Saddam took the weapons to Iran for safe keeping. Then he could have said, that's why we have to invade Iran. Bush, et al, would have loved him for that.

Here's some talking point fun for your conservative friends - as I point out on my blog, the surge is doomed! Once we have put down the rebels, their friends in Syria will wipe us out with the hidden weapons.

Left&Left @ 9:

Damn. I'll bet even the "turrorists" are laughing at this ignorant, backwoods country mother fucker!

The "turrorists" and the rest of the world.

How did the United States of America allow itself to be defined by the lowest common denominator of its society? Where in the hell are your best and brightest hiding out? Surely to goodness there must be someone of integrity and intelligence left to step up to the plate; or is the game over for y'all?

Phuck Huck. What a phucking liar. The Iraqi people don't trust us! They want us to get the f*ck out of their country.

Canadian Observer @ 87:

Left&Left @ 9:

Damn. I'll bet even the "turrorists" are laughing at this ignorant, backwoods country mother fucker!

The "turrorists" and the rest of the world.

How did the United States of America allow itself to be defined by the lowest common denominator of its society? Where in the hell are your best and brightest hiding out? Surely to goodness there must be someone of integrity and intelligence left to step up to the plate; or is the game over for y'all?

I blame it on all that Canadian Bacon that McDonald's keep putting on our Egg McMuffins.

Canadian Observer @ 87:

Left&Left @ 9:

Damn. I'll bet even the "turrorists" are laughing at this ignorant, backwoods country mother fucker!

The "turrorists" and the rest of the world.

How did the United States of America allow itself to be defined by the lowest common denominator of its society? Where in the hell are your best and brightest hiding out? Surely to goodness there must be someone of integrity and intelligence left to step up to the plate; or is the game over for y'all?

We're here. We're not even hiding out. The media is owned by the Republican corporations. We speak here in this little box where only you can hear us.

Republicans---the WMD party.

We're mighty dense.

Thank god we found them at last.

Canadian Observer @ 87:

Left&Left @ 9:

Damn. I'll bet even the "turrorists" are laughing at this ignorant, backwoods country mother fucker!

The "turrorists" and the rest of the world.

How did the United States of America allow itself to be defined by the lowest common denominator of its society? Where in the hell are your best and brightest hiding out? Surely to goodness there must be someone of integrity and intelligence left to step up to the plate; or is the game over for y'all?

Please note that in our 232 year history, a president who is a member of the "best and brightest" has been the exception rather than the rule. The RARE exception.

America is not defined by its president, and it is definitely not defined by its fading party primary candidates.

wmd's pop up in the interview and Mr. Huckabee is keen to point out that Saddam used weapons on the Kurds, perhaps its worth noting that not so long ago Mr. Bush allowed the Kurds to be bombed by the Turks.

You guys are idiots @ 88:

Look, I'm just saying you can't believe everything you read, (or see in the case of you illiterate democrats). And pull your heads out of your asses again for me.

So you guys are so smart and have such good ideas right? Well, I guess we should have just maintained our isolationist policy and let Saddam keep murdering and raping his own people. I suppose that would have been o.k., I mean, all the other countries thought it was o.k., so that is what we should have done, right? Maybe the terrorists would be "weaker" now if we had not invaded Iraq and killed a bunch of them, yeah, much weaker. If we had not increased military spending at home and abroad then I am sure there would not have been any further terrorist attacks on our soil, I mean, how could there have been, they are so much stronger now than they were before, and we are... getting... hit... all... the... time... Wait, all that does not make any sense... its like I have my head up my... oh yeah.

Almost had me convinced...

your ignorance is startling

everything you have written is so far from the truth, so filled with confusion and propaganda and embarrassingly naive i wouldn't even know where to begin.

you are fact challenged. logic challenged. and your sarcasm is even lame.

in all, your post serves to validate that the reichwing is full of ignorant blowhards.

You guys are idiots @ 88:

Look, I'm just saying you can't believe everything you read, (or see in the case of you illiterate democrats). And pull your heads out of your asses again for me.

So you guys are so smart and have such good ideas right? Well, I guess we should have just maintained our isolationist policy and let Saddam keep murdering and raping his own people. I suppose that would have been o.k., I mean, all the other countries thought it was o.k., so that is what we should have done, right? Maybe the terrorists would be "weaker" now if we had not invaded Iraq and killed a bunch of them, yeah, much weaker. If we had not increased military spending at home and abroad then I am sure there would not have been any further terrorist attacks on our soil, I mean, how could there have been, they are so much stronger now than they were before, and we are... getting... hit... all... the... time... Wait, all that does not make any sense... its like I have my head up my... oh yeah.

Almost had me convinced...

935 Lies = at least one satisfied citizen

RichStraightWhiteAmericanMale @ 93:

Canadian Observer @ 87:

Left&Left @ 9:

Damn. I'll bet even the "turrorists" are laughing at this ignorant, backwoods country mother fucker!

The "turrorists" and the rest of the world.

How did the United States of America allow itself to be defined by the lowest common denominator of its society? Where in the hell are your best and brightest hiding out? Surely to goodness there must be someone of integrity and intelligence left to step up to the plate; or is the game over for y'all?

We're here. We're not even hiding out. The media is owned by the Republican corporations. We speak here in this little box where only you can hear us.

That is just so sad. The people, for whom your Democracy was founded, have lost their voice. Corporations own the country and those citizens who want the best for America are reduced to posting their anger on Internet blogs. It's a crying shame.

[Deleted. Abusive. Thanks for the free advice. It's worth exactly what we're paying you for it-Sitemonitor]

You guys are idiots @ 107:

Nice, I love the taste of herring, especially the red ones. MMMMMMM. Much tastier that actual intelligent banter.

I made my point that you democrats would rather you-tube a Hillary lunch and smoke weed all day instead of trying to "help", yeah I said help, the world by ridding it of murderous mad-men (and murderous communities). But, fuck it right, we still got some weed left...

Do you think the women over there like being persecuted? Do you honestly think that mad-men, albeit intelligent and wealthy mad-men, are swayed by peace talks? Pull your... you know.

Really think about it before you post... you know I'm right.

Pot...meet Kettle.

You guys are idiots @ 107:

Nice, I love the taste of herring, especially the red ones. MMMMMMM. Much tastier that actual intelligent banter.

I made my point that you democrats would rather you-tube a Hillary lunch and smoke weed all day instead of trying to "help", yeah I said help, the world by ridding it of murderous mad-men (and murderous communities). But, fuck it right, we still got some weed left...

Do you think the women over there like being persecuted? Do you honestly think that mad-men, albeit intelligent and wealthy mad-men, are swayed by peace talks? Pull your... you know.

Really think about it before you post... you know I'm right.

Man you're right. We should probably invade Pakistan.

You guys are idiots @ 107:

Nice, I love the taste of herring, especially the red ones. MMMMMMM. Much tastier that actual intelligent banter.

I made my point that you democrats would rather you-tube a Hillary lunch and smoke weed all day instead of trying to "help", yeah I said help, the world by ridding it of murderous mad-men (and murderous communities). snip.

That's the idea of impeaching the real criminals. How many innocent people in Iraq do you suppose Clinton and Bush+Bush killed in the last decade? Get your head out of your own ass. How many children do you suppose the US military killed on those poor downtrodden folks that had nothing to do with Saddam? And with that in mind, when is America gonna go invade every corrupt government on the globe?

maybe we need to look for Huckabee's brain over in Jordan.

Huckabee is ignorant. Someone probably told him that the WMDs were in Syria but because that name isn't in the bible, his #1 resource for all things in the middle east, he got confused and used Jordan, after the River Jordon, instead.

You guys are idiots @ 107:

Nice, I love the taste of herring, especially the red ones. MMMMMMM. Much tastier that actual intelligent banter.

I made my point that you democrats would rather you-tube a Hillary lunch and smoke weed all day instead of trying to "help", yeah I said help, the world by ridding it of murderous mad-men (and murderous communities). But, fuck it right, we still got some weed left...

Do you think the women over there like being persecuted? Do you honestly think that mad-men, albeit intelligent and wealthy mad-men, are swayed by peace talks? Pull your... you know.

Really think about it before you post... you know I'm right.

hey einstein, care to discuss saudi arabia?

i am sure you know about saudi arabia. i am sure you know our support of egypt. and our support for saddam while he was, as you say, murdering and raping his own people. i'm sure you know all about our actions against mossadeq. phhpt, like you know who mossadeq is. and on and on and on.

funny, you are the one who seems high, high, high...

take your dumbass, wargasmic, self elsewhere, the grown ups are trying to talk.

jack damage @ 120:

Ahhh Jesus Christ! Saddam and his fucking non-existant WMD's again...Christ on a pogo stick Matthews, can't you ever stop beating that dead horse?? As for Mr. closet theocrat... Hey Huck? you don't know dick if you think this is a valid issue to ponder in 2000 freaking 8 bozo.. IF those WMD's were up your ass you'd know for sure...As it is you're raising a tired worn out issue that's as dead and settled as Hussein himself. Here's a better idea... Shut the fuck up asshole!!! That WMD b.s. was lies!! ALL LIES!!! All of it was discredited, proven false phony bullshit to help justify destroying Iraq over oil greed numbnuts!!!
GADS, I'm sick of hearing this shit... And the fact that the dems back then were equally clueless dupes for Cheney/Bush to manipulate over it all doesn't mean the repubs ought to get yet another chance to finish us all off...Doesn't make what happened as a result of all these lies any less wrong on any level... JD

Mr. Damage...you took the words right outta my mouth.

Umm...how else are you going to learn about something but by reading

Listening to the voices in your head?

Mine say I need more poon.

Samson- @ 101:

You guys are idiots @ 88:

Look, I'm just saying you can't believe everything you read, (or see in the case of you illiterate democrats). And pull your heads out of your asses again for me.

So you guys are so smart and have such good ideas right? Well, I guess we should have just maintained our isolationist policy and let Saddam keep murdering and raping his own people. I suppose that would have been o.k., I mean, all the other countries thought it was o.k., so that is what we should have done, right? Maybe the terrorists would be "weaker" now if we had not invaded Iraq and killed a bunch of them, yeah, much weaker. If we had not increased military spending at home and abroad then I am sure there would not have been any further terrorist attacks on our soil, I mean, how could there have been, they are so much stronger now than they were before, and we are... getting... hit... all... the... time... Wait, all that does not make any sense... its like I have my head up my... oh yeah.

Almost had me convinced...

your ignorance is startling

everything you have written is so far from the truth, so filled with confusion and propaganda and embarrassingly naive i wouldn't even know where to begin.

you are fact challenged. logic challenged. and your sarcasm is even lame.

in all, your post serves to validate that the reichwing is full of ignorant blowhards.

you sir #101, are right on the spot with your comments......thanks

The Iraqis trusted you, Mike? You sure 'bout that?

You guys are idiots @ 107:

Nice, I love the taste of herring, especially the red ones. MMMMMMM. Much tastier that actual intelligent banter.

I made my point that you democrats would rather you-tube a Hillary lunch and smoke weed all day instead of trying to "help", yeah I said help, the world by ridding it of murderous mad-men (and murderous communities). But, fuck it right, we still got some weed left...

Do you think the women over there like being persecuted? Do you honestly think that mad-men, albeit intelligent and wealthy mad-men, are swayed by peace talks? Pull your... you know.

Really think about it before you post... you know I'm right.

as usual you asswads never answer direct questions.

why are you not in iraq serving your great leader, suckass bush?
you, just like other gop chickenshits, let everyone else suffer your ignorance.

You guys are idiots @ 88:

Look, I'm just saying you can't believe everything you read, (or see in the case of you illiterate democrats). And pull your heads out of your asses again for me.

So you guys are so smart and have such good ideas right? Well, I guess we should have just maintained our isolationist policy and let Saddam keep murdering and raping his own people. I suppose that would have been o.k., I mean, all the other countries thought it was o.k., so that is what we should have done, right? Maybe the terrorists would be "weaker" now if we had not invaded Iraq and killed a bunch of them, yeah, much weaker. If we had not increased military spending at home and abroad then I am sure there would not have been any further terrorist attacks on our soil, I mean, how could there have been, they are so much stronger now than they were before, and we are... getting... hit... all... the... time... Wait, all that does not make any sense... its like I have my head up my... oh yeah.

Almost had me convinced...

We invaded based on the lie that Saddam still had WMDs. It's up to Bush and the 27% that still support him (that includes you) to prove the weapons exist. Weapons inspectors didn't find them. Our military didn't find them. You can no longer assert they were there.

No one denies Saddam was a bad man, a murderous man. But do you really think Iraq is better off now than it was then, now that hundreds of thousands have died, the Sunnis and Shiites have been forced out of each other's population centers, and the entire middle class has fled the country?

Your catch-all "terrorist" community is now much stronger, too, as hatred for the U.S. continues to boil over. How do you make more terrorists? Keep killing their innocent relatives (for an illustration you might understand, go watch a Rambo movie and see how he reacted; if you change the ethnicity of the person and make the outcome more realistic, you might understand how we keep creating more terrorists). They certainly aren't going to fight us in conventional war, as we outgun and outnumber them. Yeah, being a superpower has its drawbacks.

nemo @ 130:

Partly because of this: the US still maintains the "NATO doctrine" on BC weapons: use them on US troops or our Allies and you will be tac-nuked! As in immediate upping the ante into the nuclear realm. Saddam was well aware of this. Our own government was aware that Saddam knew of this. And Saddam may have been a vicious bastard, but he wasn't a stupid vicious bastard. He got rid of his manufacturing ability a few years after the Gulf War. Period. End of message.

This is something I still don't understand: we were sold the war (well, not all of us bought it) based on Saddam's alleged possession of WMDs. One of our threats against him was that we might use WMDs. How do we get off claiming the moral high ground?

Maybe our friend "you guys are idiots" would care to answer that one.

jack damage @ 122:

Ahhh Jesus Christ! Saddam and his fucking non-existant WMD's again...Christ on a pogo stick Matthews, can't you ever stop beating that dead horse??

I can't jump on Matthews for asking the question. He was following up on Huckster's "Easter Egg" comment from the debate.

Matthews: "You ah raised a rather cloying point I think with regard to WMD in Iraq. You said we didn't find it, that doesn't mean it wasn't there. Just like don't find all the Easter eggs. Well...

Cloying. A nice way to say bullshit.

And as far as not finding Easter Eggs. Well unless your head is full of shit you do eventually nose them.

ysbaddaden @ 134:

Any one know where I can score some weed?

The legal stuff, alcohol, is killing me.

I have a bumper crop in my lawn. How much can you carry?

Nah he hid them in Arkansas.

LOL!!!

This is by far the most ridiculous 'substantiation' myth that the right wingnuts use on WMD.

Question: We have a 643 Billion budget for defense (more than twice the COMBINED amount of the next 10 countries behind us - China at $60/yr)...
We have the most extensive network of spy & imaging satellites in the world
We have the Mossad & CIA gathering intelligence

Ummmm....the only thing we have to show for it is....

The artist rendition of mobile weapons labs....thanks Powell...they looked so realistic....have we found those yet???

No pictures, no video, no evidence that WMD was in Iraq, CONFIRMATION BY WEAPONS INSPECTORS that there were no programs & in fact what was on hand was deteriorated pre-Gulf war munitions, etc....

We didn't find any WMD in Iraq because they were all moved to Jordan or Syria?

Uh, huh.

This is nothing more than a right-wing conspiracy theory. Using this reasoning, you might just as well insist that the moon is still made of green cheese and we just didn't bother to dig deep enough through all the dust and rocks to find it. Just serves to demonstrate that some people will cling to any idea no matter how half-baked or how preposterous in order to avoid admitting that they were wrong.

right wing hater @ 143:

LOL!!!

This is by far the most ridiculous 'substantiation' myth that the right wingnuts use on WMD.

Question: We have a 643 Billion budget for defense (more than twice the COMBINED amount of the next 10 countries behind us - China at $60/yr)...
We have the most extensive network of spy & imaging satellites in the world
We have the Mossad & CIA gathering intelligence

Ummmm....the only thing we have to show for it is....

The artist rendition of mobile weapons labs....thanks Powell...they looked so realistic....have we found those yet???

No pictures, no video, no evidence that WMD was in Iraq, CONFIRMATION BY WEAPONS INSPECTORS that there were no programs & in fact what was on hand was deteriorated pre-Gulf war munitions, etc....

I was at the Chicago Boat and RV show last weekend. I think they one of those mobile weapons vans for sale.

I think it’s more likely that the Imperial Japanese Navy—that we know that they at one time had—they used a fleet against Pearl Harbor—good chance they went to Korea.