Verdict: Karl Rove Complained To Dan Abrams For Siegelman Coverage
By SilentPatriot Thursday Apr 17, 2008 7:15pm
So what happens when a journalist actually does his/her job and exposes corruption at the highest levels of our government? They get complaint letters from the criminals they exposed. Abrams detailed tonight that he received a 5-page letter from Rove complaining about the great reporting he's been doing on the political prosecution of Governor Don Siegelman.
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Mr. Rove, this is your opportunity to answer under oath many of the questions you suggest I should have asked. Your attorney had said in no uncertain terms that you would testify. We have the email. And since you seem determined to get to the truth, I would think you would embrace this opportunity to testify to Congress. We’re not going to let this story die. A jury found Don Siegelman guilty. But if his prosecution was driven by partisans, after him because he was a Democrat, then this case needs to be revisited. And an appellate court has ruled it will be.
Hopefully Rove will take Abrams up on his offer to appear on the show to plead his case. Keep your finger crossed.
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Wow. A real journalist in America. Who's not afraid. It's about F@#ing time. Take Rove Down. Put him in jail.
"Hopefully Rove will take Abrams up on his offer to appear on the show to plead his case."
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
You have GOT to be kidding me, right???
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, oh, stop you're killing me.
I just hope they don't try to silence Abrams. Anyways, "a real journalist in America"(#1) indeed.
Rove says that he didn't "TALK" to anyone at the White House about Don Siegelman.
I'm not about to call him a liar.
Incidentally, how many emails were lost by Rove and the White House?
Just askin'....
If Rove won't testify under oath in Washington, D.C. : then how about a CIA rendition flight to Syria; of course nothing should be done that is not legal according to guidance from UC's Torture Yoo.
Who would have thought that MSNBC of all networks - owned by GE and Microsoft - would turn out to be the sole source of actual journalism on the tube?
Not me.
Keep rockin, Keith! Gettum Dan!
Hire Rachael, you idiots!
You know Rove reminds me of only a few (thankfully) people I've known that were weak, sick people. He is a coward and now sounds desperate. Not to say he's not a smart man, but man Abrams made him sound crazy. Yeah, I know, could be just an act. But Abrams pointed out the crucial facts that he is not willing to testify under oath. I hope he's shitting his pants. I would love to see desperation in that man's face for a long, long time.
Sometime, somewhere, somehow, we'll get these SOBs! I just hope there's no chance that Bush will pardon the bunch of them. Can he pardon himself?
What happens to them?
They get a warning.
rove will never testify under oath.
Good luck with that. Rove's entire existence is predicated on being able to take cheap shots and avoid responsibility. He'll NEVER face his accusers.
Restore the Constitution @ 1:
I completely agree. Put him in and maybe use enhanced interrogation to implicate all of them.
One issue that has gotten my attention is McCain's role in the Bureau of Indian Affairs hearings re: Abramoff lobby money scandal..McCain't was the Chairman.May I suggest everyone check out SamStein's story over at HuffPo,entitled,"McCain witheld Controversial Abramoff E-Mail" .This directly relates to the flap about Rove,Alabama Governor Don Siegelman,and McCain's deletion of the damning e-mail from the final report on Bureau of Indian Affairs lobby money.The actual e-mail is displayed at the end of Stein's article. Rove is specifically mentioned along with Bob Riley. McCain left this e-mail out of the 373 page Bureau of Indian Affairs investigative report .
Poor Karl, reduced to whining about Abrams, poor Gonzo, can't find a job, poor Rummy, striped of power, now hawking a book few will buy. What's next? Dana Perino as a bag-lady?
The only place in the world rove should be giving an interview is an entrance interview at the supermax prison he is sent to.
Ken @ 12, what is being refered to as enhanced interrogation is actually torture and is very very illegal! On the other hand to let kkkarl THINK that it will be used is fine by me and would get him squealing in no time I'm sure.
Spank that fat troll!
VegasRage @ 17:
You do it. Why do you think they call him turd blossom? You're going to get your hands dirty.
Terrible @ 16:
I know. I was being facetious. In his case, what is good for the goose is good for the pig.
Will the Turd Blossom weasel his way of out of this one? Of course! But it will be fun to watch his downfall, because, once, not so long ago, Karl thought he was a god.
Tom (Not Tom) @ 11:
And here I thought his entire existence was predicated on getting the bottom of the giant sundae and nabbing the gooey candy treat. Ziggy piggy!
Anyway, I doubt he would come onto turf that isn't owned by FuxNews, but even if he did appear on Abram's show, so what? He won't be under oath and he will be able to lie all he wants. It's not like the man has a sense of shame or anything. (I mean, look at all the ice cream on his face, wouldja??)
Karl "the son of a bitch" Rove ain't stupid, if the bastard testifies under oath, he goes directly to jail.
Pondscum Rove was using the usual bully tactics he established long,long ago. Sadly,he won't do the interview,He won't see a courtroom.nor a jailcell. Nine of The Thugs will ever see justice-and if we're not diligent-could very well hold onto power as long as They wish. Be very afraid.
The more I see of Abrams the better I like him. He and Keith, back to back, are a real weeknight pleasure. Go Dan! Redeem the legal profession for the rest of us!
UnEasyOne @ 6:
I Love the Randy Nueman reference! Good one!
' We're rednecks we're rednecks. We don't know our ass frum a hole in the ground.We're rednecks keepin the n-----s down.
Tim in Japan @ 4:
You might not be about to call him a liar--but I am! LOL!
I want to know what he has ever told the truth about? How many times did he have to go back to the Grand Jury again? If Fitz hadn't allowed him to "correct his testimony", he'd have gotten the same trial that Scooter got. Of course in Rethuglican America, Justice is reserved for the rich and powerful. Then, there's "Just Us" (and the Don Siegelman's of the world).
Bravo, Dan Abrams. Good for you, not falling for the bullying tactics of the Pillsbury Doughboy...um, Karl Rove.
c'mon, rover...
jump ship, bro. we're throwin' you a lifesaver...
If that low life organism were convicted of any of the many crimes he has commited, you all know that he would be pardoned by Bush. Someone above said that all this may be an act. You never know!
Great clip. Rove will only go on Fox and get softball questions lobbed at him. The arrogance that Rove exudes is pathetic, but under oath?
Rove is a coward, a liar, a tyrannical nutjob and should really be in prison. Just the basic list of requirements to be an official neocon madman most people have understood for many years now, Rove is just one of the worst. A future that may include watching these assholes go to prison is something I dream of, get out the popcorn!!!
hood @ 30:
Post Dumbya=no pardon, unless McWarmonger gets elected.
lj @ 8:
He can't pardon after he leaves office?
P.D. @ 20:
Well....the media thought he was God anyway. "The architect", remember that one? "Bush's brain", remember that one? Bush's anus turned out to be more like it.
Inherent Contempt of Congress --> Arrest by Sgt at Arms --> Turdblossom Perp Walk
I was impressed with Abrams' coverage and interview of Siegelman. Will Rove ever go to jail? Keep writing those letters to the media and tell them to give us the facts. A few million people paying attention can have a very big impact. And Keith's ratings have obviously had some results at MSNBC.
I heard Dan Abrams is a testicular cancer survivor. This is what I want to say - regardless of whatever procedures were required to save your life sir - you've got balls to spare. You make us proud of our free press again. Go get 'em!
Keep up the good work. Some of us are more interested in this story than who does or doesn't wear a flag pin on their lapel.
They're gonna love Rove in prison, partly because he really does look kinda like a hog..
a west salem epicenter's right in the heart of the land of licoln...
god must be ready to rumble...
*lincoln
(yeah, very long week at work)
Five pages to Abrams..wow, Tub O Shit Rove must have went through five bags of pork rinds. With Rove's concern with Abrams and Dick Cheney mentioning KO's Countdown, I guess BushCo watches MSNBC instead of Fox. Poor BillO.
More than anything people like Rove love their money. So I'm fine with slime like him having to spend loads of money on lawyers, even if it's just to have them issue statements concerning a Dan Abrams piece. I'm sure Karl sweats like a pig when he has to write those checks (or has to beg his super-rich neo-con cronies to donate him the money) to those law firms.
Libby was convicted and he didn't even serve one second in jail. After almost eight years of breaking the law continuously, I don't think they're concerned about being prosecuted for anything. The democrats have stood by and watched this administration break rule after rule and have done nothing but keep drawing lines in the sand. Even if Rove gets a subpoena, he'll just ignore it and the democrats will apologize to him for sending it. Bush and his buddies will live a comfortable life after they leave office and enjoy their lives on our dime.
Sachem @ 35:
What a pleasing picture...
There is NO WAY the king of corruption is going to answer questions under oathe. I'd bet the ranch on it. I don't care what he said, or his lawyer said to Abrams, or anyone else.
rove is a scumbag, and this whole administration full of white collar criminals would never be put to the test under oathe. They lie, cheat, steal, and deceive. Honestly is a crime to them.
In regards to the 5 page! letter that he wrote to Mr. Abrams... Mr. Rove certainly has a lot to say, doesn't he?
Old saying: "Guilty Dog barks first" or "methinks he protesteth too much"
You write: "Hopefully Rove will take Abrams up on his offer to appear on the show to plead his case. Keep your finger crossed."
To paraphrase the late William S. Burroughs, cross your fingers with one hand and shit in the other; see which one fills up fastest. Rove will NEVER voluntarily submit to questioning about his role in the Siegelman affair because, like most of the rest of the cabinet and Team Bush, almost everything they did was unconstitutional and in some cases criminal. What we really need is some enterprising someone to exercise extraordinary rendition by kidnapping Rove, Rumsfeld, and, when they leave office, the rest of the gang, and take them to The Hague to be tried by the World Court for war crimes. Our spineless congress isn't going to do anything. I wonder if George Soros or some other rich liberal has any contacts in the world of paladin soldiers of fortune?
great job Dan...keep it up!
Fry Karl Rove's fat ass with this one, ugly little creep that he is.
The rOVE afair ,
Why americans love amerCIA ( cia , fbi , dea , nsa , dhs , fema , irs , etc. , etc. / make me gag .
Will we ever stand up and fight for our freedoms as our parents did or are we now a bunch of mushroorms .
I saw some one with a bush/cheny bumper sticker today , it was all I could to do to restrain myself from pulling them out of their car to have a little chat with them .
It will come home , are you ready ? .
A non denial denial?
I haven't parsed the letter line by line, but the format of asking questions about whether 60 mins had corroborating testimony skips around actually having to say " I was not involved".
No chance that he would come on the show and face a direct question.
I hope they get that little bastard in a Federal prison with a lot of horny roomates. I live just outside of Montgomery where Siegalman was tried. I wish I had paid more attention to the trial but I remember after it was all over what little I read Don had nothing to gain from the crimes he was supposed to have committed. Don was a good Governor and would have whipped Riley's ass had he been able to run as he planned. I retired here to get away from the snow but it is truly a third world state...
14 P.D. Says: Poor Karl, reduced to whining about Abrams, poor Gonzo, can’t find a job, poor Rummy, striped of power, now hawking a book few will buy. What’s next? Dana Perino as a bag-lady?
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I've been preparing myself, mentally, to be a bag lady for years now. Ya never know, eh?
Dough boy is angry: hitting a little too close to home??? One thinks. Fry his lard ass.
"Verdict: Karl Rove Complained To Dan Abrams For Siegelman Coverage"
Sorry, but shouldn't this read "over" not "for"? I had to read it a few times to figure out what it meant. Small pesky detail, but...
To quote the President ... "If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear". Well then, put your hand on the Bible and......
Lets face it, it only took "MR. TRUTH" Rove just 5 appearances before the Grand Jury investigating Plame to get his story straight enough to keep from being indited for perjury. Why does Dan think he can get the truth out of him in just one appearance on his show??? Sorry Dan, I'm not willing to watch Rove do any more lying on your show or any other.
Take that back, if you were to put Rove under oath and WATERBOARD the bastard, now I watch that show.
When the shit hits the fan, you'll find Rove (the soft, white turd) hiding behind the president's skirt.
Why doesn't Rove just tell his story in court, under oath and in public?
You write: “Hopefully Rove will take Abrams up on his offer to appear on the show to plead his case. Keep your finger crossed.”
Yeah - I got just the right finger in mind to cross for KKKarl "TB" Rove!
MN USA @ 59:
For one reason only - he's a coward. Like all the criminal-class jerks in the Beltway these days, he's sniffing the air only to find the stench of his own haunches getting a bit toasty. He's just trying to keep them from being fully cooked!
This is great... they won't let the story die... this gives me HOPE.
There once was a demon named Rove
Who hailed from Bohemian Grove
He's a blossoming turd
And his way with a word
Makes a web of the lies that he wove
Well well well...looks like turdblossom is about to hoist by his own petard!
liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 63:
Need more coffee!
Rove will be hiding in Cheney's secret cave hideaway.
There are goings-on in Mississippi, too:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/How_Bush_US_attorney_riddled_with_0401.html
Your homework: Read the other stories in the series.
Rove testifying in court under oath? When pigs fly!
Rove and the Chimp hate the media and the concept of checks and balances. How dare someone such as Abrams challenge them.
I think it is wonderful that blogs have used their influence to push back when MSM behaves badly, but would't it be wonderful as well if we also show our approval when they behave as they should. I never was an Abrams fan up until recentely (I wonder if KO's success had anything to do with Abram's evolution), but I have watched him do some really good work in amazement.
How about letting him know how we feel (I don't mean a personal email but a blogsphere reaction).
Beeta: Great idea! I have been a fan of Dan from years back ,when he was with Court T. V. Yes, I agree he has evolved, and has either found his own voice,or is perhaps being unmuzzled. BTW, just as an aside,his father is Floyd Abrams,noted attorney.Kudos to Dan,and MSNBC!
BTW, Although I'm not a fan of Rove or of extraordinary rendition.............................
Renell,
Glad you agree, I do that in personal life. if I ever have a pleasant experience in a store or receive good service, I let the person and/or the supervisor know that I have noticed and appreciated it. It not only makes the person happy, it really does make a difference in how people perform their jobs. Let's see if we can get others behind the idea.
Lt @ 57:
Waterboard 'em all.
"I just hope they don’t try to silence Abrams"
I believe he's still the GM of MSNBC. Believe me, they can't silence him even if they tried.
Karl, shouldn't people who betray their nation be sent to prison?
Keep it up Dan if for no other reason to make that fat ass sweat!
Perhaps it was because SilentPatriot's posting was rather too brief, but almost seems as though Abrams was suggesting that, were Rove to appear on his show, his remarks would be "under oath" then and there. I trust that Abrams understands that Rove could lie like a rug on his show, and no legal consequences would ensue. I sure hope that it is still legal to lie at will to a reporter.
It's all been said.............but thank you from the bottom of my heart, Dan Abrams!!!!
Mark Twain said " if you never tell a lie , you need not remember what you said " .
rOVE what a poster boy , on the 100 yard line ! .
David N. This is JP. Don't be pulling anybody out of any cars. That's not right. Do be votin'. and spending your money with your peoplem whoever you are voting for,..and push, push, push with all your might for the leaders of all forms of government in the USA to operate transparently and fairly. The "people" can't take justice for granted. I am so happy that some of us "get it" that Keith, Dan, and Rachel are honestly reporting all the news that they can on the corruption and sliminess. When the Dems win in Nov. we had better be ready to stay involved for a long time. A win doesn't mean we don't have to watch our leaders every moment. We have to remain involved in our own self interests as a country of pretty good people who have gotten a really raw deal for the last twenty five or so years. Personally, I have always despised Carl Rove. He is a coward and a bully. If he ever comes before any kind of a judgment other than the stirrings of his own withered conscience, I will be greatly surprised. But then, I am surprised most every day by some good thing!
JP , you are right ,
@ a other website I was at some people were talking about shooting people for stealing gas , having a CWP and having went thru a FBI / CID background check , it amazes me how many people think ( or lack of thinking ) that because you own a firearm you can shoot some one .
A kARL rOOVE target on the 25 yard line or 100 yard might be a big seller , or bush , darth , conndie , rummy , colin , ah they are just targets . Me I would use a slingshot and start from the ankles and work my way up .
PS ,
kARL rOVE is not a bully , he is not that much of a man , not in my school yard or sand box .
I live in Alabama and have immediate family members in politics. I am aware that Rove manipulated the outcome of my family members run for office. My wish is that "What Goes Around Comes Around" for Rove, but my experience has been that truly vile people like him come out just fine....with lots of money and they sleep soundly every night. As a female I can say he has gotten one raw deal.....his looks!!! Please keep up the great job you are doing on this story.
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