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Open Thread: When Pigs Fly

Roger Waters lost his pig.

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UPDATE: The pig has come home.



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PF the greatest :)

Dumbest supporter ever.

Pink Floyd's Latest -- Dubya: Another Prick on the Wall

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The real Hawaiians want their territory back. The CIA is only now noticing China is kicking our ass militarily. Entrenched Dems continue to be stupid and confuse Wright with Obama. Speaking of stupid, the white hick vote is causing rural blacks to get ignored.

And it happened on the day that Albert Hoffman died, the discoverer of LSD, at the age of102.

A secret spy court helps
Bush violate our rights. Obama still has enough of a magnetic personality to attract enough superdelegates to wipe out Hillary's lead. The GOP apparently agrees, and has already called ththe nomination for Obama. Soldiers are repressing their emotions.

i remember when am radio played music like pink floyd's. now it's all about right wing rants. i think this explains why 'rock', and our country, are dying.

That reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU3H1Um4Ju4

...and the cats meow!!!

There is a great article on Hawaiian sovereignity and how they lost it to being annexed in 1898 by a rapacious appetite for expansion by the U.S.

I dont blame Hawaiians for wanting their state back, the military owns over a quarter of Oahu and parts of the mainland as well.

Tequila @ 5:

The CIA is only now noticing China is kicking our ass militarily.

For the truely paranoid RW Americans, guess how many aircraft carriers the Chinese are building !
and what happened to the ex Soviet carriers and capital ships... who gratefully bought them up for a song.

tyree, if your reading this, don't let race be a factor in your choice this primary.

Obama's no black panther. He's a post-racial candidate.

Forgot to mention its at http://www.thenation.com

(Kind of neat that the Nation commented on it right after they annexed it in 1898)

OK, I'll bite When Pigs Fly Hillary will appear on O'Reilly or when she's losing to Obama & has no chance to win ie desperation & speaking of fixed noise ~ we don't need no thought control.

Billo asked Hillary are you surprised fixed noise has been fairer to you than Obama, duh they obviously want her to beat Obama. The reps & fox are obsessed w/the Clintons & can't believe the new kid in town is cleaning her clock.

Ever since dubya got elected pigs have been flying ...

Watching Huffington on cnn right now...didn't take her long to get a forum.

Chris F. @ 16:

Watching Huffington on cnn right now...didn't take her long to get a forum.

CNN = CIA News Network !

Keith is correct. Superdelegates are prolonging the race for a dem nomination.

I feel because they don't want to hurt hillary's ego.

tHeHusseinGaMeOfLiFe @ 18:

Keith is correct. Superdelegates are prolonging the race for a dem nomination.

I feel because they don't want to hurt hillary's ego.

how many 'super delegates' could $130 million in uranium money buy ?

Chris F. @ 16:

Watching Huffington on cnn right now...didn't take her long to get a forum.

This is what I dig about her. She is quick with the responses, accurate and intelligent.

ferrofluid @ 19:

tHeHusseinGaMeOfLiFe @ 18:

Keith is correct. Superdelegates are prolonging the race for a dem nomination.

I feel because they don't want to hurt hillary's ego.

how many 'super delegates' could $130 million in uranium money buy ?

Not just endorsements, GLOWING endorsements.

P.S. Floyd Rulz :)

The AP article about this said Waters was playing "Pigs" during the porcine deployment, but this is clearly "Sheep". Damn liberal media getting their important facts wrong again.

ferrofluid @ 19:

tHeHusseinGaMeOfLiFe @ 18:

Keith is correct. Superdelegates are prolonging the race for a dem nomination.

I feel because they don't want to hurt hillary's ego.

how many 'super delegates' could $130 million in uranium money buy ?

Elaborate.

CNN = CIA News Network !

I'm a notorious channel-changer and happened to catch it. I'm really trying not to watch any so called news channels . I just can't stomach it anymore

22 Cap’n Phealy Says: The AP article about this said Waters was playing “Pigs” during the porcine deployment, but this is clearly “Sheep”. Damn liberal media getting their important facts wrong again.

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Nope, clearly a pig. Curly tail. I don't get the meaning of it though.

25 Ron Says: 22 Cap’n Phealy Says: The AP article about this said Waters was playing “Pigs” during the porcine deployment, but this is clearly “Sheep”. Damn liberal media getting their important facts wrong again.

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Nope, clearly a pig. Curly tail. I don’t get the meaning of it though.

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Ron, do yourself a favor and listen to Pink Floyd's Animals. "Sheep" is also on the album. The Pigs rule the Sheep, sound familiar?

Lol the song is SHEEP, the balloon is a pig,

Hardly news, Waters has been releasing a pig every show since his tour started last year. His live shows are rally's. I've seen red staters eat humble pie at them. Rog is doing a great service to the race at these shows and you should not miss them!

Here is

DOGS

Dogs (Waters, Gilmour) 17:06

You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need.
You gotta sleep on your toes, and when you're on the street,
You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed.
And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight,
You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking.

And after a while, you can work on points for style.
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.
You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
So that when they turn their backs on you,
You'll get the chance to put the knife in.

You gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder.
You know it's going to get harder, and harder, and harder as you
get older.
And in the end you'll pack up and fly down south,
Hide your head in the sand,
Just another sad old man,
All alone and dying of cancer.

And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone.
And it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw
around.
So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone,
Dragged down by the stone.

I gotta admit that I'm a little bit confused.
Sometimes it seems to me as if I'm just being used.
Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise.
If I don't stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this
maze?

Deaf, dumb, and blind, you just keep on pretending
That everyone's expendable and no-one has a real friend.
And it seems to you the thing to do would be to isolate the winner
And everything's done under the sun,
And you believe at heart, everyone's a killer.

Who was born in a house full of pain.
Who was trained not to spit in the fan.
Who was told what to do by the man.
Who was broken by trained personnel.
Who was fitted with collar and chain.
Who was given a pat on the back.
Who was breaking away from the pack.
Who was only a stranger at home.
Who was ground down in the end.
Who was found dead on the phone.
Who was dragged down by the stone.

Huffington was on Charlie Rose. Rose pretends to give the left a voice, but he kept interrupting Huffington, often rudely speaking more than she, and although Arriana was too much of a lady, I got the impression she felt like slapping his face.Charliue, do me a favor: shut your hole.

26 xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution Says: 25 Ron Says: 22 Cap’n Phealy Says: The AP article about this said Waters was playing “Pigs” during the porcine deployment, but this is clearly “Sheep”. Damn liberal media getting their important facts wrong again.

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Nope, clearly a pig. Curly tail. I don’t get the meaning of it though.

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Ron, do yourself a favor and listen to Pink Floyd’s Animals. “Sheep” is also on the album. The Pigs rule the Sheep, sound familiar?

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I should know pink floyd? I used to know a Floyd that could stand on his head and drink a schooner.

Yes, you should know (or get to know) Pink Floyd.

shiloh @ 15:

OK, I'll bite When Pigs Fly Hillary will appear on O'Reilly or when she's losing to Obama & has no chance to win ie desperation & speaking of fixed noise ~ we don't need no thought control.

Billo asked Hillary are you surprised fixed noise has been fairer to you than Obama, duh they obviously want her to beat Obama. The reps & fox are obsessed w/the Clintons & can't believe the new kid in town is cleaning her clock.

Ever since dubya got elected pigs have been flying ...

I saw about 5 mins of the "show," hillary was inappropriately laughing most of the time. loofahboy asked some hard question but he passed them off before hillary could lie. His kissassaroo fest was more comical than his "normal" shows.

Go Obama!
Go USA!

Sheep (Waters) 10:19

Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away;
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air.
You better watch out,
There may be dogs about
I've looked over Jordan, and I have seen
Things are not what they seem.

What do you get for pretending the danger's not real.
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.
What a surprise!
A look of terminal shock in your eyes.
Now things are really what they seem.
No, this is no bad dream.

The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green He leadeth me the silent waters by.
With bright knives He releaseth my soul.
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places.
He converteth me to lamb cutlets,
For lo, He hath great power, and great hunger.
When cometh the day we lowly ones,
Through quiet reflection, and great dedication
Master the art of karate,
Lo, we shall rise up,
And then we'll make the bugger's eyes water.

Bleating and babbling I fell on his neck with a scream.
Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.

Have you heard the news?
The dogs are dead!
You better stay home
And do as you're told.
Get out of the road if you want to grow old.

Mike Malloy is starting to turn up the heat on his Nova M Radio broadcasts.

35 L.A. Confidential Says: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-MLxgkiPNg

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I like that song a lot and it certainly is very popular, but my favorite album by them is The Final Cut.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 36:

35 L.A. Confidential Says: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-MLxgkiPNg

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I like that song a lot and it certainly is very popular, but my favorite album by them is The Final Cut.

Watch the clip

I just did, it was great! :)

Is it ok to still think that The Final Cut was their best album?

I spent about three years listening to Pink Floyd, by now i think i am entitled to an opinion.

Hi x, Ron, Smart Red, GaMe, Ferret P, Wokman, et al...

Nice ta see ya'll...gotta go

If yer lookin for Megan McCain's Blog, she's shackin' up at my place indefinitely - gag me with a spoon OMG...

Hittin’ the road, Jack,”and I ain’t comin’ back no more no more no more no more”…

“Last word, freak.” - Melvin Udall

out

;-}

thought about going to woodstock but they didnt have any johnny cash or hank thompson there!

shiloh @ 15:

OK, I'll bite When Pigs Fly Hillary will appear on O'Reilly or when she's losing to Obama & has no chance to win ie desperation & speaking of fixed noise ~ we don't need no thought control.

Billo asked Hillary are you surprised fixed noise has been fairer to you than Obama, duh they obviously want her to beat Obama. The reps & fox are obsessed w/the Clintons & can't believe the new kid in town is cleaning her clock.

Ever since dubya got elected pigs have been flying ...

Heh, here's why she should not have gone on FUX. And why Obama should not have gone on FUX. And why no serious person should go on that joke of a network.

Anyone asked about not appearing on it should simply say, "Oh, because it's not real news." Don't be mean about it. Don't appear like you're holding a grudge. Don't be bitter. Just be calm, and say, "Oh, that's not real news."

tHeHusseinGaMeOfLiFe @ 23:

ferrofluid @ 19:

tHeHusseinGaMeOfLiFe @ 18:

Keith is correct. Superdelegates are prolonging the race for a dem nomination.

I feel because they don't want to hurt hillary's ego.

how many 'super delegates' could $130 million in uranium money buy ?

Elaborate.

money greases the wheel of politics.
money is the common thing that binds people and parties.
witness the Abramoff focused Indian casino money that flowed into various Congress pockets five years or so ago.
witness the inaction of the "not on the table" crowd in DC, not all of them but most of them.

The facial expert should take a look in the mirror because her face needs a lot of work.

yeah i dont listen to that screaming crap! soungs ought to be understandable!

In today's campaign headlines:

Old-man McPoopy diapers and the Mummble-incoherrently Express stops off at the Indian Casino in search of Lone Ranger and Tanto.

sorry songs!

And the Germans kill the Jews and the Jews kill the Arabs and the Arabs kill the hostages and that is the news, is it any wonder that the monkeys confused.

Ah sweet Floyd. I caught the Pigs on the Wing concert tour at the Pontiac Silverdome. Lousy venue great show. Personal favorite LP is a toss up between Meddle and Ummagumma.

Italy will fine tourists in Venice who feed pigeons.

46 I Like Pie Says: In today’s campaign headlines:

Old-man McPoopy diapers and the Mummble-incoherrently Express stops off at the Indian Casino in search of Lone Ranger and Tanto.

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We are surounded by redskins tanto. Looks like we are in for a lot of trouble. Tanto says, "What do you mean by we."

45 tyree Says: yeah i dont listen to that screaming crap! soungs ought to be understandable!

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They are understandable, but first you have to listen. They also cut straight through the crap and get right to the point.

Another college shooting. (Well, misfire, in this case.)

Merck is still a joke.

Anyone else catch tonight's Boston Legal? It's just starting here on the West coast, but they're taking on the delegate rules for the Dem Convention. Shirley (Candice Bergen) sues her nephew since he's a pledged delegate and is planning to vote for someone other than the person his CD voted for.

Tequila @ 51:

Italy will fine tourists in Venice who feed pigeons.

did they say feed pigeons to what ?

cats sure do like a tasty pigeon, tricksy to get through a cat flap tho with the wings flopped out.
just enough time to rush to and lock it when the face and the feathers appear.

guess you need grass to catch the lyrics!

54 Tequila Says: Another college shooting. (Well, misfire, in this case.)

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When you see a sign that says "School" that really is a warning sign. Turn right or left and find an alternate route.

58 tyree Says: guess you need grass to catch the lyrics!

No, you don't. You need an open mind.

yeh kind of like punk rock is educational!

WhenIsItEnough @ 56:

Anyone else catch tonight's Boston Legal? It's just starting here on the West coast, but they're taking on the delegate rules for the Dem Convention. Shirley (Candice Bergen) sues her nephew since he's a pledged delegate and is planning to vote for someone other than the person his CD voted for.

Correction. She sues the DNC over the party rules.

I like most animals, but i am not fond of pigeons. Noisey, dirty and in your face is not my idea of anything but a pest.

tyree @ 58:

guess you need grass to catch the lyrics!

not music to listen to deeply when everybody else is making noise around you,
big speakers and a keep out sign for quality listening.

This is awesome!

tyree @ 61:

yeh kind of like punk rock is educational!

try the 'Stranglers'

sort of pre punk but influenced them, and survived into the 80s

61 tyree Says: yeh kind of like punk rock is educational!

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Brilliant lyrics and amazing musical writing and performance is good enough for me, but as an added bonus Pink Floyd has biting politcal and social insight. Pretty much everything one could want in a band if you ask me.

well i liked the swing bands dorsey, goodman ,glen miller , torch songs , and country , hate rockabilly though!

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 67:

61 tyree Says: yeh kind of like punk rock is educational!

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Brilliant lyrics and amazing musical writing and performance is good enough for me, but as an added bonus Pink Floyd has biting politcal and social insight. Pretty much everything one could want in a band if you ask me.

When the Tigers broke free

Nothing wrong with Glen miller and Tommy Dorsey either. I like most artists from back then from Duke Ellington to Miles Davis.

That is another thing, Tyree. Pink Floyd sings a lot about the misery of being a soldier at war, you really need to think about listening to them when you are in the mood for something new.

well i got used to rock and roll, even elvis parsly spelled it wrong thats what i called him , pissed me off all the gals creamed evertime he swiveled his humper!

dont think i needed a singer to tell me about that!

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 71:

That is another thing, Tyree. Pink Floyd sings a lot about the misery of being a soldier at war, you really need to think about listening to them when you are in the mood for something new.

and one thing which united a lot of the musicians of the sixties was that a lot of them had missing fathers killed in WW2 or Korea.
theres nothing like organized and immoral warfare for making orphans and peed off people.
even if fathers come home relatively intact but maybe suffering from PTSD, kids suffer.

When the Tigers broke free (original film footage)

i dont listen to music anymore, cant really say why , just stopped ,

tyree @ 75:

i dont listen to music anymore, cant really say why , just stopped ,

music is good for the soul and good for keeping peoples spirits up in bad times.
explains why the RW xtians and the totalitarians are very keen are censorship and steering kids away from 'bad' music.

ww 2 had its songs to remember , white cliffs of dover ,kate smith , ill be seeing you, since you went away, my buddy , none for us in korea nothing to remember the war by , sad!

73 tyree Says: dont think i needed a singer to tell me about that!

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No, Tyree, you don't. On the other hand the music of an orphaned son of a soldier might interest you anyway.

anyway enjoy the music any kind , one song i remenber , too soon old and to late smart! and all to soon the gray hairs start! night all way past my bed time!

We'll Meet Again
Vera Lynn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcunREYzNY

Roger Waters (Pink Floyd) - Vera - Bring the boys back home

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-RSuoxHOFU

tyree @ 77:

ww 2 had its songs to remember , white cliffs of dover ,kate smith , ill be seeing you, since you went away, my buddy , none for us in korea nothing to remember the war by , sad!

Spike Jones !!

82 ferrofluid Says: tyree @ 77:

ww 2 had its songs to remember , white cliffs of dover ,kate smith , ill be seeing you, since you went away, my buddy , none for us in korea nothing to remember the war by , sad!

Spike Jones !!

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That was pretty funny. :)

'The Fuhrer Face' a serious German WW2 patriotic song,
but was so easily warped with just the addition of raspberrys sounds into classic parody.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 84:

82 ferrofluid Says: tyree @ 77:

ww 2 had its songs to remember , white cliffs of dover ,kate smith , ill be seeing you, since you went away, my buddy , none for us in korea nothing to remember the war by , sad!

Spike Jones !!

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That was pretty funny. :)

Spike Jones came across with the US invasion forces to the UK and influenced british comedy big time in the 40s,
from that influence sprang the various late 40s 'music hall' and BBC radio shows then the Goon Show proper which was manic comedy with sound effects and two jazz / early 50s R'n'R musical interludes per episode.

The island of Lesbos sues gay women for appropriating their name.

"IF YOU FAIL TO PLAN, YOU PLAN TO FAIL!"

Happy Birthday Mission Accomplished!

Whether you are pro-choice or pro-life, I think we can call agree that we wish the Iraq War was aborted before it was born.

87 Tequila Says: The island of Lesbos sues gay women for appropriating their name.

I have to say that you are an avid reader. I read a lot but I don't think I could have ever come up with that article.

Yes, happy frickin' 5th anniversay, how ironic dubya landed on the USS Abraham Lincoln if Obama becomes our next president. Worth noting his "photo op" delayed the ship's return to San Diego by one day & "the aircraft carrier's 10-month deployment (which was the longest deployment of a carrier since the Vietnam War)" ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Accomplished#Description

Bill Maher mentioned on 'real time' the reason al Queda's 9/11 mission was successful was because of PLANNING! & the reason dubya is still in Iraq is because he had/has no plan.

So yay for Coachella.

How about Austin City Limits? Anybody else planning on going?

And the Obama on the bottom of the pig was a subtle move haha.

Did, did, did you see the frightened ones?

Look mommy, there's an airplane in the sky!

In the vein of self sacrifice I am forgoing my vacation to Indiana this summer the reasons are many but the most important are:
1) I have heard that Indiana is as safe as Iraq is in the summer time
2) I do not think enterprise or avis have apcs for rent and even if they did the cost of fuel would bankrupt me.
3) Mc crazy has said that if we as americans would just not go on one vacation the whole recession thing would just go away ( I haven't been on a vacation for 10 years, somy just thinking about havin g one has sent this country into a downward spiral - I'll apologize now )

Why isn't this a big story in the MSM ?

Hillary hoodwinks Hoosier Voters.

vrunner @ 95:

Why isn't this a big story in the MSM ?

Hillary hoodwinks Hoosier Voters.

(Watch "World News with Charles Gibson" TONIGHT at 6:30 p.m. ET for the full report.)

ABC isn't MSM?

Hussein in a Handbasket @ 96:

vrunner @ 95:

Why isn't this a big story in the MSM ?

Hillary hoodwinks Hoosier Voters.

(Watch "World News with Charles Gibson" TONIGHT at 6:30 p.m. ET for the full report.)

ABC isn't MSM?

Ah I meant the usual culprits (i.e. CNN, MSNBC, FOX)

Clinton Superdelegate Jumps Ship, Backs Obama

WASHINGTON (AP) ― A leader of the Democratic Party under Bill Clinton has switched his allegiance to Barack Obama and is encouraging fellow Democrats to "heal the rift in our party" and unite behind the Illinois senator.

Joe Andrew, who was Democratic National Committee chairman from 1999-2001, planned a news conference Thursday in his hometown of Indianapolis to urge other Hoosiers to support Obama in Tuesday's primary, perhaps the most important contest left in the White House race. He also has written a lengthy letter explaining his decision that he plans to send to other superdelegates.

http://kdka.com/politics/campaign08/clinton.superdelegate.switches.2.713...

John The Republican McCain Means more of the same.

McCain The Republican = Bush The Republican

vote flick....er Hillary

shiloh @ 15:

OK, I'll bite When Pigs Fly Hillary will appear on O'Reilly or when she's losing to Obama & has no chance to win ie desperation & speaking of fixed noise ~ we don't need no thought control.

Billo asked Hillary are you surprised fixed noise has been fairer to you than Obama, duh they obviously want her to beat Obama. The reps & fox are obsessed w/the Clintons & can't believe the new kid in town is cleaning her clock.

Ever since dubya got elected pigs have been flying ...

On air force one.

Mister Anderson @ 88:

"IF YOU FAIL TO PLAN, YOU PLAN TO FAIL!"

Happy Birthday Mission Accomplished!

Whether you are pro-choice or pro-life, I think we can call agree that we wish the Iraq War was aborted before it was born.

I'll go you one better and say we all wish shrub was aborted before it was born. I'd be willing to try now if you like though. I'm sure I could manage to strangle him with a coat hanger if they'd just let me try.

Daily Reading pt 1...

WHY WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR 4 YEARS OF MCBUSH: Climate change hitting Arctic faster, harder - http://www.enn.com/ecosystems/article/35583
“This is extremely dangerous, as some of these arctic changes have the potential to substantially warm the Earth beyond what models currently forecast. That is because climate models don’t currently adequately incorporate important underlying drivers of the arctic changes we are already observing, such as the interaction between sea ice thickness and water temperature.”

What Do Off Grid Homes Look Like? Here are 5 Examples - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/04/off-grid-homes.php

Small Wind Power is Growing Fast, Even Bush Sr. Will Get a Wind Turbine - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/04/residential-home-wind-power-grow...

Senator James Inhofe's (R - Exxon) Blog: the Greatest Hoax Perpetrated on the American People - http://www.desmogblog.com/james-inhofes-senate-blog-greatest-hoax-on-the...
Either Inhofe's bloggers only see what they want to see, or their mouse buttons don't work very well, because if they'd looked at the other hits they got for their daily "global warming" Google news search, they would have found another article about the study, which explicitly says :
Climate experts have long warned, though, that warming is unlikely to be a gradual trend, but a movement in stops and starts.
So, for Inhofe, his bloggers, and their pals in the deniosphere: hold your horses. You don't even have to "read the fine print". Just read beyond the first paragraph or two of an article to see that science is not on your side, despite your desperate hopes.

Hillary Clinton and John McCain Pander for Votes: Economists Criticize Proposal to Halt Gas Tax. Plan first offered by Sen. John McCain, supported by Sen. Hillary Clinton, would spike demand, offer little savings at the pump, many economists say. Amazing, a Political Debate About an Actual Issue, High Gasoline Prices and Potential Solutions or Gimmicks?
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/30/AR200804...
"I don't think it's brilliant economics; unfortunately, it may be good politics. The smart people say 'It's stupid,' and the people who aren't as schooled say 'At least it will do something for me,' " he said. "I don't know that anyone connects the dots: that there have been a series of politically expedient decisions . . . that have added up to an economic picture that is not at all rosy and in fact fairly disastrous."
I'll summarize for those who live in tax cutting fantasyland....IT WILL ONLY HELP BIG OIL...NOT YOU AT THE PUMP, STUPID...

KGB Lovin' GOP: Thom Hartmann Interviews Alabama Governor Don Siegelman on April 29: The Full Transcript. Siegelman Remains a Partisan Victim of ProsecutorGate. He Was Tried and Convicted Because He Protested the Theft of His Re-Election by the Republicans.
- http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/alerts/350

US troop deaths push monthly toll to 7-month high in Iraq - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/iraq
'Surge'.....

Report: Rush Limbaugh Dittoheads to Vote for Hillary Clinton in Indiana - http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/04/29/nondemocrats_will_decide_in...
The poll shows that self-identified Republicans favor Sen. Hillary Clinton, 50% to 44%, while independents favor Sen. Barack Obama, 54% to 38%.
Among Republicans, there "appears to be two kinds of Republicans: the 'Obamacans' as the Illinois senator likes to call them -- earnest Republicans deeply disappointed in their own party's performance on the budget, economy, social issues and the Iraq War -- and the Rush Limbaugh Republicans who are planning to crossover to vote for Sen. Clinton because they perceive her to be the weakest rival to U.S. Sen. John McCain in the November election."

Daily Reading pt 2...

Republican Culture of Corruption Update: War Profiteers: The Bush Baghdad Bubble - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charlie-cray/war-profiteers-the-bush-b_b_9...
As a contractor L-3 is a kind of conglomerate that was created by Wall Street (Lehman Brothers) execs who saw the war and burgeoning military spending as a golden opportunity. So they went on an acquisition spree, gobbling up Titan (who Lockheed stopped courting when it was revealed that they had to pay the largest fine in history for corporate bribery), the company that provided translators at Abu Ghraib.
L-3 is also the parent company of the mercenary (err -- military security) firm MPRI, which was contracted to train the Iraqi Army. MPRI also has a contract with the Justice Department 'to train' police forces in dozens of other countries.

A Nation of Hysterics: by Paul Campos - http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/30/campos-a-nation-of-hys...
Neurotic obsessions with risk and safety reflect a more general problem: the many cultural and political forces pushing us to behave like a nation of hysterics. At the beginning of the 21st century, the typical American suburb is just about the safest place that has ever existed in the history of the world — yet it’s full of terrified people. Statistics have little power in the face of a media environment in which extraordinarily rare events, such as strangers kidnapping children, are presented as commonplace by profit-hungry “news” outlets, for whom the bottom line is that fear sells. Politicians realize this too.

Obama picks up more superdelegates - http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/obama-picks-up-another-sup...

John McCain's (R-Idiot) White Supremacist Problem - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cliff-schecter/john-mccains-white-suprem_b...
In North Carolina, racism for electoral gain obviously did not go away with Jesse Helms' retirement from politics. And neither has Republican timidity in doing anything to control the extreme elements in the party--or their base if you will. So once again, just as other conservatives sat idly by and claimed Jesse was just being Jesse, now John McCain (R-Idiot) throws his hands up in the air as if there is nothing he can do when a racist ad is run by the North Carolina GOP against Barack Obama.

Rep. Lois Capps (D-CA) with long ties to both Clintons will announce her endorsement of Barack Obama - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9976.html

'The Pentagon military analyst program unveiled in last week's exposé by David Barstow in the New York Times was not just unethical but illegal.' - http://www.prwatch.org/node/7261

As if you needed ANOTHER REASON NOT TO VOTE FOR MCBUSH: The McCain Health Plan: Millions Lose Coverage, Health Costs Worsen, and Insurance and Drug Industries Win
- http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/mccain-health-plan-millions-lose-cov...

McCain Endorser Pastor John Hagee: God Curse and Doom America - http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/4/30/142126/284
Any Catholic despite their political stripe planning on voting for McBush needs to have their head examined...
REMEMBER McCain/McSame SOUGHT HAGEE'S ENDORSEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!

LA Times: Did The US 'Photoshop' Syrian Nuke Images? - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2008/04/syria-more-ques.html

Politico: "Capitol Hill insiders say the battle for congressional superdelegates is over, and one Senate supporter of Barack Obama is hinting strongly that he has prevailed over Hillary Rodham Clinton."
- http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9968.html

MargeAggedon @ 103:

Mister Anderson @ 88:

"IF YOU FAIL TO PLAN, YOU PLAN TO FAIL!"

Happy Birthday Mission Accomplished!

Whether you are pro-choice or pro-life, I think we can call agree that we wish the Iraq War was aborted before it was born.

I'll go you one better and say we all wish shrub was aborted before it was born. I'd be willing to try now if you like though. I'm sure I could manage to strangle him with a coat hanger if they'd just let me try.

At least Bill just made a stain on a dress.

George H.W. Bush made a stain on the WORLD, also called G.W.B.

Ron @ 89:

87 Tequila Says: The island of Lesbos sues gay women for appropriating their name.

I have to say that you are an avid reader. I read a lot but I don't think I could have ever come up with that article.

And wasn't this something that they did about 15 years ago already? Didn't Lesbos make some kind of official announcement about being called "Lesbosians" and therefore anyone who called them 'lesbians' was incorrect? I do recall something about it. Not exactly sure how it went. Either way, it's funny.

Open Thread: When Pigs Fly

Pink Floyd and Roger Waters will have a reunion tour.

#63:"I like most animals, but i am not fond of pigeons. Noisey, dirty and in your face is not my idea of anything but a pest."
I have just done an informal poll in Cenetral Park, and every single pigeon is Republican. Figures. Now I have to fly to Venice for my next poll.

tyree @ 47:

sorry songs!

No worries, tyree. Most of us are not spelling snobs and English professors. I saw in another thread some elitist bloggers wearing monocles were whining about your posts. Fuck em.

thanks for the memmories, few of you were alive dureing ww2, and for that im sorry for you! if you had only seen the american people that were alive back then youd have been proud of them, i remember the day the germans invaded poland , and how certain americans became that war was comeing , then the britts declared war on hitler and spitfires and me 109s fought it out over the skys of england , america was wakeing up to the threat of the nazis, then the shock of dec 7th , thier was fear in america but allso a determination to fight and win at all costs , now that was a war, every body able lined up to fight at the recruiters , and on dec th i had my seventh birthday , americans back then were friendly to each other , you could say hello as you passed them by and they returned your greetings, today people look at you like your wanting something from them or that your gay, not that thiers anything wrong with that, every body pitched in for the victory effort, even us kids we gathered paper ,magazines , alluminim , rags , anything that could be used for our country,it made us closer the kids knew each other back then , now with school bussing the kids are devided and feel very little kinship to each other, thier were no supermarkets only corner grocyery stores no sub divisions , all us kids wanted to join up and fight, anyway music was an inspiration for us all , songs like this is worth fighting for, and so many more lifted our spirites , thier was no tv , sometimes i think tv was the worst thing that happened to us, yeah i get pissed when some goobers on here try to degrade my education my typeing my spelling , but i wouldnt trade my lifes experience for all your education, because i remember what america once was , praise the lord and pass the ammunition!

DC @ 100:

John The Republican McCain Means more of the same.

McCain The Republican = Bush The Republican

McOOOhShitNotAgain!

thanks stirfry your a champ!

Low Spending Is Taking Toll on Economy
By PETER S. GOODMAN

Beleaguered American consumers appear to have succumbed to the pressures of falling home prices and shrinking paychecks.

Amen to 109, tyree. Most of us are distracted by TV and iPods, and that's why McFake may be the next president. Then our country will completely go down the shitter.

Keep it coming. I enjoy your wisdom.

And "shitter" is not in my computer's dictionary

StirFry @ 108:

tyree @ 47:

sorry songs!

No worries, tyree. Most of us are not spelling snobs and English professors. I saw in another thread some elitist bloggers wearing monocles were whining about your posts. Fuck em.

Yes. Because we should maintain as much animosity toward intelligence as possible.

thanks again stirfry , i didnt mention i want to cry every day for what our countrys become , the songs of yesterday dont seem so to go along with todays faschisim of this government , this is worth fighting for has lost its meaning , i know many of the guys fighting in iraq and afganistan are weary and feel trapped , by bushes elected war, some are scum who value no ones life, its the ones who want this to end but see ther is no end that i feel sorry for,

MargeAggedon @ 115:

StirFry @ 108:

tyree @ 47:

sorry songs!

No worries, tyree. Most of us are not spelling snobs and English professors. I saw in another thread some elitist bloggers wearing monocles were whining about your posts. Fuck em.

Yes. Because we should maintain as much animosity toward intelligence as possible.

What? I have animosity toward folks who obviously understand a post, but knitpick spelling and grammatical errors.

#109: Tyree: What a beautiful speech. And you speak from the heart. Your spelling and your heart have no match. I only came to this country in 68-69 and I envy the unity and kinship in those days you describe, when one felt proud to be an American. Today the torture and shredding of our beloved Constitution makes me hang my head. What happened? How could we allow this? If we loved our country, and we did, why did we look the other way? Look at the nightmare we have imposed on ourselves? Our status of pariah in the world...Don't we care? Why are we so apathetic and self-destructive? I have never understood it. But the plotters of this Fascist takeover understood it. We have 300 million sheeple on their way to the slaughter. And there is every indication the nightmare hasn't even started. God save us all.

tyree @ 116:

thanks again stirfry , i didnt mention i want to cry every day for what our countrys become , the songs of yesterday dont seem so to go along with todays faschisim of this government , this is worth fighting for has lost its meaning , i know many of the guys fighting in iraq and afganistan are weary and feel trapped , by bushes elected war, some are scum who value no ones life, its the ones who want this to end but see ther is no end that i feel sorry for,

My brother-in-law is in Iraq. He was in Afghanistan but they deployed him to the "scourge" in Baghdad.
Yeah, feel sorry for me since I want a president who will at least talk about ending the war instead of expanding it.

thiers an old saying that hold true , dont judge a man till youve walked a mile in his shoes, people alive today have every advantage we were denied back then , thier was the depression ,no middle class ,only the rich and the poor, just like america will be soon again , school was something you indured , as ive said before if you made it thru to the eight grade you were considered to be educated , high school was the equivelent to a college education , and college was out of the question , only one in fourty kids even had the hopes of going to college, kids never drove to high school in thier own car, the only cars on the schools parking lots were teachers, school books cost money , money parents had a hard time scrapeing up, we wore levis back then long before it was the in thing to wear , mine were patched the patches had patches and you had to be ashamed to go to school wearing welfare clothes, because the kids whos parents that had money made fun of you, kind of like the assholes who make fun of your spelling on here , they had it easy allthough not haveing the latest video game or some dipshit ipod seems to be a hardship for some anymore , anyway no ones running me off from here but the site moniter, and they can have thier fun cutting me up for my spelling , the thing is the asshats that i knew that used to treat me like that in the old days are takeing a dirt nap now in the gardens of stone! and i dont miss them!

StirFry @ 117:

MargeAggedon @ 115:

StirFry @ 108:

tyree @ 47:
No worries, tyree. Most of us are not spelling snobs and English professors. I saw in another thread some elitist bloggers wearing monocles were whining about your posts. Fuck em.

Yes. Because we should maintain as much animosity toward intelligence as possible.

What? I have animosity toward folks who obviously understand a post, but knitpick spelling and grammatical errors.

Everyone makes errors all the time. When a person consistently posts like they're typing with their eyes closed I can understand annoyance on the reader's part. I often feel that way but I don't comment on it. I just stop reading the posts.

#118 mistic , thanks it was from this old heart, wich by the way has attacked me four times , talk about your traitors , anyway welcome to america , or whats left of it, perhaps i seem bitter to some on here and maby i have become that way, weve lost our way mistic , and i cant see the road back anymore , the news whores and the politicians dont encourage me that well ever become the likable people we once were , i know the things weve done here are dispicable not only in iraq or afganistan but to the indians , the slaves and to each other , your right weve become a nation of sheeps , waiting to be slaughtered by the corporations and a criminal government, i cant see the light at the end of the tunnel ive heard so much about, i trust no politician anymore ,

#124 , as ive told the asshats that cant understand what i post and want to cut you up for thier enjoyment they can do as you do, skip over to the next poster , im sure you and every poster on here have posters they dont care to read! i ask questions and get insults instead of compitent answers , the fact is no matter who were for obama or clinton were allready screwed , neither ones going to be president , mccains votes are allready in the electronic voteing machines , and we lost, so lets just keep kicking each others cods in ,its what they planned,

112 tyree Says: thanks for the memmories,

I prefer thanks for the mammaries.

# 127 been there done that!

StirFry @ 111:

tyree @ 47:

sorry songs!

No worries, tyree. Most of us are not spelling snobs and English professors. I saw in another thread some elitist bloggers wearing monocles were whining about your posts. Fuck em.

Fuck em indeed. Tyree is one of the most interesting (and funny) posters on here. I kind of like the crazy spelling and punctuation.

Rock on, Tyree!

thanks rusty its great to have real friends on here , its one thing that keeps me going , i wont let youall down, the trolls couldnt run me off and believe me they tried , and thanks again to any who bother to decipher my posts! everyone else can go fluck thierselves!

129 Rusty Shackleford

Have y'all ever read Archibald And Mehitabel?

The poet e e cummings was known for writing poetry without capitalizations nor stanza breaks.

ysbaddaden @ 131:

129 Rusty Shackleford

Have y'all ever read Archibald And Mehitabel?

The poet e e cummings was known for writing poetry without capitalizations nor stanza breaks.

I like e.e. cummings very much, Ysb. Are you saying that Tyree is our cummings?

I just look it up on Amazon, and although I do remember it as Archiebald and Mehitabel, they list it as Archie and Mehitabel.

I think this book is the reason I've always been partial to Krazy Kat and Ignatz, because they share the same artist.

132 Rusty Shackleford Says: ysbaddaden @ 131:

129 Rusty Shackleford

Have y’all ever read Archibald And Mehitabel?

The poet e e cummings was known for writing poetry without capitalizations nor stanza breaks.

I like e.e. cummings very much, Ysb. Are you saying that Tyree is our cummings?

Waddya say Tyree, need some Viagra?

ysbaddaden @ 133:

I just look it up on Amazon, and although I do remember it as Archiebald and Mehitabel, they list it as Archie and Mehitabel.

I think this book is the reason I've always been partial to Krazy Kat and Ignatz, because they share the same artist.

Herriman? He was awesome.

Reports: DC madam commits suicide in Florida home

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/DC_madam_commits_suicide_in_Florida_0501.html

Keep in mind, one of her employees "committed suicide", too! (wink wink)

During several recent appearances on The Alex Jones Show, Palfrey also said that she was at risk of being killed and that authorities would make it look like suicide. She made it clear that she was not suicidal and if she was found dead it would be murder.

Palfrey had threatened to release the names of well-known clients of her upscale call girl ring in the nation's capitol, and had indicated that Dick Cheney may be one of them.

"No I'm not planning to commit suicide," Palfrey told The Alex Jones Show on her last appearance, "I'm planning on going into court and defending myself vigorously and exposing the government," she said.

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/050108_madam_predicted.htm

This totally belongs on this thread:

Albert Hofmann 1906-2008

All pigs are equal but some pigs are more equal than others. { my apologies to Orwell's Animal Farm}

The best Coachella ever. I had so much fun. Somebody also 'chem trailed' or 'crop dusted' the show with obama fliers but they all ended up outside the park...

Rusty Shackleford @ 135:

ysbaddaden @ 133:

I just look it up on Amazon, and although I do remember it as Archiebald and Mehitabel, they list it as Archie and Mehitabel.

I think this book is the reason I've always been partial to Krazy Kat and Ignatz, because they share the same artist.

Herriman? He was awesome.

OMG! archy and mehitabel was the best book ever
Archy was such a smart little cockroach

Big Dan @ 137:

During several recent appearances on The Alex Jones Show, Palfrey also said that she was at risk of being killed and that authorities would make it look like suicide. She made it clear that she was not suicidal and if she was found dead it would be murder.

Palfrey had threatened to release the names of well-known clients of her upscale call girl ring in the nation's capitol, and had indicated that Dick Cheney may be one of them.

"No I'm not planning to commit suicide," Palfrey told The Alex Jones Show on her last appearance, "I'm planning on going into court and defending myself vigorously and exposing the government," she said.

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/050108_madam_predicted.htm

RIP Deborah Jean Palfrey, I hope the baskets who did this to you rot in hell.

I watch the world float to the DARK SIDE of the pig (mmm, bacon!).

Fearlessly the idiot faced the crowd

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