Military analyst to Rumsfeld: "You are the leader. You are our guy"
By Nicole Belle Wednesday May 07, 2008 2:30pm
Following the publication of the April 20 New York Times front-page article on the hidden ties between media military analysts and the Pentagon, the Department of Defense has released to the public numerous documents regarding the analyst program. One of the documents released is an audio recording of an April 18, 2006, meeting that several military analysts attended with then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Gen. Peter Pace, then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. During the meeting, one of the attendees tells Rumsfeld, "[W]e get beat up on television sometimes when we go on and we are debating" and says that he would "personally love" for Rumsfeld "to take the offensive, to just go out there and just crush these people so that when we go on, we're -- forgive me -- we're parroting, but it's what has to be said. It's what we believe in, or we would not be saying it." The individual adds: "And we'd love to be following our leader, as indeed you are. You are the leader. You are our guy." The transcript released by the Pentagon does not identify the person who made this comment; the Pentagon has provided this list of "confirmed" "[p]articipants." Media Matters for America has documented the consistent unwillingness of most of the outlets mentioned in the Times article to discuss the military analyst story.
Will media outlets try to determine if they have hosted the person who asserted that Rumsfeld was "our guy" and suggested that he would "parrot[]" Rumsfeld's statements?
Media Matters provides a list of all those attending the meeting that day. The Times article quotes one ABC analyst, Gen. William Nash, as being "repulsed" by the meeting and most of its attendees, but clearly there are others only too happy to play this psyops game on the American people.
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Holy Cow! These idiots sound like the sheep that followed their "great" leader Hitler and Mussolini in WW11. Do any of these aholes have a shred of dignity?
Does anyone recall that the most common form of government in the vast scope of human history (and even today) is brutal despotism?
Democracy and freedom are not the norm, they are a ephemeral anomaly that occurs only when the government is more afraid of the people than the people are of the government.
Does anyone recall that the most common form of government in the vast scope of human history (and even today) is brutal despotism?
Democracy and freedom are not the norm, they are a ephemeral anomaly that occurs only when the government is more afraid of the people than the people are of the government.
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King of Kings @ 4:
Rumsfield would enjoy being a brutal despot.
Already he makes his money selling medical supplies to the military. Luckily for him he also has the power to veto purchases of body armor for the troops.
So by denying the troops their body armor, he is increasing his profits. Every dead or wounded soldier makes for a little more silver in his pockets.
Just think, so,e of these idiots were in the military!!!!!!!!!!! These guys are as bad as Hitler and the Nazis.
Caption this photo: "...and I insert my arm up the President's butt thusly, and by pulling the strings, could make him say whatever I wanted."
King of Kings @ 3:
The government is only afraid when the government is transparent, the people are vigilant and thus informed. Three conditions that we seem to be having a shortage off.
L.A. Confidential @ 5:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxPA37n0oOU
Why is this fucker not under the jail?
Is Rummy doing his Senor Wences impression in that photo?
Pathetic.
I expected military analysts to show some bias, but not act as spokespersons for DoD.
I'm left speechless.
That's Wayne Simmons calling Rummy "our leader"
"We know where the analysts are. They're east, west, south and north somewhat."
L.A. Confidential @ 10:
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Wow, just wow! Never knew this kind of propaganda and agenda pushing could ever happen on US airwaves. Makes you wonder how much and how long the government has been doing it, even before the Iraq Occupation.
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Smithee @ 15:
I think so too...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1022786884932269751&q=Wayne+Simm...
Spot on.
psyops??
Today in America the Tavistock Institute spends $6 billion a year {in taxpayer money } to control 400 subsidaries and 3000 other study groups whose only work is to BRAINWASH the American people
these programs are carried out by founations like the Hoover Institute or the Rand Inst.{Rockefeller funded}
to work for companies such as Bechtel, Kaiser , CIA ..etc.etc.
stated goals are-
"to break down the phycological strengh of the individual and render him helpless to oppose the dictators of the New World Order"
the CFR, Bilderberger group ,Trilateral ass. are all extensions of the illuminati power and have been going on for about 50 years , altough the illuminatti's have been around almost 300 years
just ask all the world leaders the've murdered
world domination was a major goal of the illuminatti ,thought up over 100 years ago
they have been the cause of vitually all major conflicts in the world for over 200 years
clearly there are others only too happy to play this psyops game on the American people.
Oh, come on. They believe it and they believe it must be said. That's not psyops by the military analysts. It is, however, psyops by the news outlets that hire them. So, what are the chances the news outlets will confess to using psyops on their viewers?
I mean, what were they to do?
JM @ 20:
Old Wayner's a real pitsniffer, a regular ball-gargling suckup. THIS is our finest. "Our leader, our guy, mmmmff, glurg, mmmllf."
I'm guessing it was General "Buck" Turgidson.
poor uncle donny. such a mean mister mustard.
bet he slams a bottle of jagermeister, kicks his german shepherds & passes out in the war room every single night.
probably doesn't even kiss mrs. rumsfeld goodnight.
such a mean old man.
We had a name for guys like this when I was in the U.S. Air Force...brown-nosers. Or ass-kissers. Or suckups.
Obviously, nothing has changed since when I was in, but the idea that anyone out of the military continues to be a brown-nosing, ass-kissing suckup to someone as stupid and blindly righteous as Donald Rumsfeld is beyond me.
Nevermind the pathetic story of rightwing military suckups trying to toady favor with this assbite.. I see that putz's picture all animated and raised fist..... And the only thing that comes to mind is... 'Sieg Rummy'!!! I am sooo over these motherfuckers... Every damned last one of them... This one? Just another asshole who needs to face trial for war crimes!!!! JD
I have a view that is quite contrary to the other posters here.
First, I know Donald Rumsfeld was a horrible, crooked, ethically challenged piece of crap. I ascribe all manner of evil to him and the adminstration from which he lurks. I find the generals fawning comments sickening.
But the fact is that civilian control of the military is essential to our democracy. The generals must follow the lead of the Secretary of Defense. Rumsfeld was indeed the leader of the military. George Bush was elected (well maybe), and he appointed Rumsfeld who was confirmed by the Senate. The generals are not allowed to act independently of their civilian bosses - and we wouldn't want them to.
The solution to the problem of having the generals report to the likes of Rumsfeld, is to get a different President.
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