It's Tough Out There For A Republican
By Nicole Belle Friday May 30, 2008 4:20pmI'm just enjoying the implosion of the party after they've proven so well how inept they are at the actual business of government.
DCCC:
The DCCC has launched a multimedia campaign to highlight House Republicans' hypocrisy in claiming to support our troops and veterans, but then playing politics with funding them.
The ad is playing in the following vulnerable races:
AZ-03: John Shadegg
FL-12: Adam Putnam
FL-18, FL-21, FL-25: South Florida Republicans
FL-24: Tom Feeney
NY-29: Randy Kuhl
OH-01: Steve Chabot
In addition, the DCCC has put together radio spots and robo-calls that hit on what has developed as the GOP's kryptonite this election year: lobbyists. Indeed, we've won three seats that were considered safe Republican seats if the member hadn't quit to become a lobbyist: IL-14 (Hastert--really not making his GOP buddies happy), LA-06 (Baker), MS-01 (Lott). And that's not all, Republicans candidates all over the country are hurting:
• In NY-13, after Fossella retired, the GOP apparently couldn't find anyone to run for his seat. Except someone no one--and I mean, no one--had heard of.
• In bright cherry red state Wyoming--a state Kerry lost 69-29--the Democratic candidate is ahead of the Republican. Given that Obama is polling ahead of McCain in the area, that bodes exceptionally well for the Democrats in November.
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What's a Republican?
LindsayLohan'sButtFreckles @ 1:
They're the ones who are always talking about some fantasy time in the past was better and we should go back there. We'd all like to help them out but they can't really define when it was or what things were like. They just talk about one vague attribute which isn't enough for us to go on. So we keep progressing instead.
What's business?
Dear GOP,
Welcome to permanent minority status. Population, You.
Sincerely,
America
1 LindsayLohan’sButtFreckles Says:
What’s a Republican?
----okay, i'll bite....I dunno, what is a republican?
(what's the punchline?)
wheeee @ 6:
It's that thing you might have heard flying over your head a few minutes ago.
President to be Barrack Hussein Obama will be coming to Minneapolis on Tuesday to declare victory,
he will be declare and celebrate with proud Democrats and friends,
in the very hall that the Repugs will be holding their September wake in.
VICTORY
Victory decal (put it everywhere)
June 3rd the start of the end of Bushco, a glorious new dawn for all.
City pages
LindsayLohan'sButtFreckles @ 7:
Hey! I heard it too! Yay me!
When will the media start asking McSenile why he hates our troops?
This is all great news for Democrats but it's sad that so many of our brave men and women in the military had to suffer so horrifically to make the point.
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 8:
The dems will probably win all elections by a good margin to a landslide. While that's cool and everything, just remember that when mostly dems are in charge they're in the same situation the republicans were which makes it easy to implement your ideology.
I think the dems won't do as badly as the republicans but I think they'll go overboard. That's just human nature. If the dems want to be a permanent power then they need to behave like rational grown-ups. I know that's a lot more to ask of them when the republicans did just the opposite but I'm just talking about reality - not necessarily what's fair.
If they make Americans sick then the Republicans will be back and they'll have a good jumping off point because I doubt the dems are going to undo a lot of what the republicans have done.
In other words, they'll be starting MUCH closer to the goal than Bush did. Think about what that means.
Is this a joke C&L? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/DavidtheDuke/joke.jpg
[I think that's your browser, David. Even my crappy Internet Explorer-based browser is working fine with the site today. Try clearing your cache. Site Monitor]
Its a tough time out there for any politician. Surely they all realize that people are getting fed up with the lies and typical political BS they SPIN year in and year out. Surely they realize people want to be taken seriously and want teh problems at hand dealt with in a timely manner, not set on the back burner. Thanks a lot Dictator Bush.
JJ
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DavidtheDuke @ 14:
everything is fine here.
CafeenMan @ 13:
Dr. (Bitter Hussein) Matt @ 4:
OK, I know how great it feels to see Rove's dreams of a "permanent Republican majority" shattered so decisively; but it is incredibly stupid to have that same dream for the Democrats.
Any American that desires permanent single-party rule ought to be ashamed of themselves, for that is about as un-democratic, and treasonous?, an ideal as their ever was.
mudshark @ 16:
What's it supposed to be? I see a C&L page. Am I missing something or is Firefox wigging out?
The site displays perfectly. I'm talking about the HOMELAND SECURITY ad.
[Ahh, now I see! Much of the ad space isn't sold to indvidual advertisers, but to companies that then sub-lease, in a way, to the individual advertisers, if you follow. Just drop a line to John and/or the site monitors with your concerns. The links to our e-mail addresses are located on the upper left of the page, just below the Koufax Award. Thank you. Site Monitor]
LindseyLohansLongAssName - I agree. I'd really like to see other viable parties and get us out from under the two-party system. I'd also like some changes in term limits. Like not having to depend on the houses to boot some bastard out of town. Return that power to the people.
"What are you saying?"
"I'm saything my theory of yes and no."
DavidtheDuke @ 19:
It's not on my screen.
[Some of the ads are like advertising at a ballgame, mudshark. The ad for Ball Park Franks behind home plate in the first inning is replaced with an ad for Budweiser in the second. Given time, and a few refreshes of your browser, you'll probably see that ad. Site Monitor]
On the right of the linked jpg there's a guy in a uniform. It looks like an ad for Homeland Security but it might have been a gif that had more to say - in other words advertising against them. I didn't see the original so just saying it could be.
CafeenMan @ 23:
It's still on my screen, it's an ad for a college offering a degree that could lead to a career in Homeland Security. Not an ad for DHS.
LindsayLohan'sButtFreckles @ 17:
Oh, jebus, do you even know what "treasonous" means you twit?
"Given that Obama is polling ahead of McCain..."This might be joyful news if there were substantial differences between Obama and McCain but, alas, there is not. Since McCain is viewed [justifiably] as wanting to Keep the United States in Iraq indefinitely, liberals then rush to proclaim Obama as their peace candidate. On closer inspection, Obama fails to pass that test. Even after his phased [not immediate] withdrawal finally takes place, Obama wishes to leave 80,000 troops either in Iraq or "over the horizon". This [alleged] agent of hope and change also wishes to leave many if not most of the military contractors in Iraq as well as shifting more troops to Afghanistan, where that "good war" is taking place. Leaving U.S. armed forces and contractors in Iraq does not strike one as the best way of supporting the troops or the families of those military contractors nor would it appear to be the best way to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqis and Afghanis by leaving American forces, unjustifiably, on their soil.
Yet liberals as well as other Americans fall for the trap that Obama is significantly dissimilar than McCain. The devil, as they say, is in the details.
Speaking as a Democrat in Wyoming, we're really excited about our prospects this year. We had record turnouts at our Democratic Caucuses. We're especially optimistic for the House seat. Gary Trauner came with in 1/2 % of the incumbent Republican last time. He's winning people over all the time. Check out TraunerforCongress.com . We also have both Senate races. Chris Rothfuss (www.rothfussforsenate.com) running against Barrasso the guy appointed to fill Craig Thomas' seat, and Nick Carter (nickforsenate.com) is running against incumbent Repub Mike Enzi. We only have a half million people here, and the Repubs get tons of money even before declaring, but we Dems are working on turning things around.
CNN and others are breathlessly reporting Obama is resigning from Trinity Church.
Oh, I thought it might be that. Thanks for letting me know. I don't think Obama/Hillary would get rid of HS no matter how gutted the Repubs are this November. Maybe its significance will be lowered. though. It's such a step in the wrong direction.
OK, I know how great it feels to see Rove's dreams of a "permanent Republican majority" shattered so decisively; but it is incredibly stupid to have that same dream for the Democrats.
Any American that desires permanent single-party rule ought to be ashamed of themselves, for that is about as un-democratic, and treasonous?, an ideal as their ever was.
Oh, jebus, do you even know what "treasonous" means you twit?
Yeah, you're right treason doesn't apply here. But I'm just saying single-party rule isn't what this country is about, no matter which party is in power. It's insane to think that American's would consistently elect the same party for the rest of time anyways.
Errol@26
Please tell me you aren't that simple. Obama is obviously a lot different from McCain. Being somewhat in the same ballpark on one VERY DIFFICULT issue is not the same as parity or even close to it.
There is no good way out of Iraq. Everybody knows that. We'd all like our troops home and we all know Iraq is fucked and it's our fault. At one point I thought the best thing to do was just get the hell out of there because Iraq will fix itself. Unfortunately, we kept "fixing" things over there to the point that it's hopelessly broken.
Nobody knows if pulling everyone out right now will end up being the best poor choice. We could try it but we could be wrong about that too.
Here's a huge difference between Obama and McCain. Obama knows what diplomacy is. In fact, he's the only candidate that has a snowball's chance in hell of getting people talking instead of killing each other.
Peace is always achieved eventually even if it doesn't last long. Peace will come faster because Obama was president.
I can't believe anyone is trying to say Obama and McCain are essentially the same. That's just insanely disconnected.
LindsayLohan’sButtFreckles@24
It’s still on my screen, it’s an ad for a college offering a degree that could lead to a career in Homeland Security. Not an ad for DHS.
I just glimpsed it, and it's for some sorta tech school, like DeVry Institute or ITT Tech.
I wouldn't see a problem if DHS itself was advertising for applicants at C&L.
Think of the type of people you'd get...Okay, what I mean to say is that I'd rather have regular C&L readers in DHS than Malkinites and LGFers.And, if you think about it, DHS, under the power of Stupor Mundi's administration, would NEVER advertise here.
What is wrong with cutting all the funding? Get this--we are FKN broke and the oil companys are pissed--going to lose Iraq and all M.E. oil.
*What's the B.S. that our troops are doing a honorable service for our country--more like just for the oilie companys*--No-one country now trust America--except Israel.
Former Bush donors now giving to Obama
From Reagan Democrats to Obama Republicans.
Beam me up Scotty.
This is a pro-war ad and the DCCC should be ashamed. They are playing as much politics with the troops as the Republicans. Bring the boys home, now. The Dems in the House can do so, they choose not to.
Despicable. How can we say this is good for the country? for the Constitution?
Ken Krayeske @ 35:
While I don't believe this ad is pro-war, I agree with you in that I could've easily confused it with a Republican ad. Just switch the names. It's the same Republican talking points we've seen for the past few years, now just coming from the Democrats. Really sad.
Wow. The Clintonistas at that hearing are an embarrassment to our party.
CafeenMan @ 23:
Maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing for people who read C&L to be getting jobs at DHS.
Under an Obama administration, of course.
LindsayLohan'sButtFreckles @ 24:
Try using NoScript with Firefox. It will block (or more specifically, allow you to block) ads like this.
Propagandistic, nationalistic, bullshit. Three words that describes that commercial. Using "the troops" is a card that works in many proud totalitarian societies.
CafeenMan @ 31:
"There is no good way out of Iraq." As with most Americans, you seem to believe that only Americans know what is best for the citizens of third world countries. You also seem to lacking that word which seems to be deficient in the DNA of so many Americans and that is empathy. You may want to try telling that to the average Iraqi since every major poll in Iraq has stated that most Iraqis want the United States to stop occupying their land and to leave as quickly as possible.
If you actually possessed that trait called imagination, then you might actually imagine what it would be like if foreign soldiers occupied this country and a tank were to drive down your street and you were to see a foreign soldier wearing battle fatigues and especially carrying an assault rifle walking down the road. How would you feel? I suspect that you would feel emotions like fear, loathing, anger, contempt, bitterness, resentment, rage, hatred, at those foreign soldiers knocking down your door or your neighbor's door or being shot at checkpoints or not having enough drinking water and not having enough electricity. If you can actually imagine those things happening in this country, then one would think that you should be able to empathize with what the Iraqis are going through when they see American soldiers in battle fatigues walking down their streets and shooting at them at checkpoints. But you seem unable to do that. Perhaps if you had been displaced from your home [as millions of Iraqis have] and had to flee to Canada or Mexico, then just perhaps you might be able to imagine the hell that the Iraqis [and the Afghanis] have had to endure at the hands of the American military.
You claim that "Nobody knows if pulling out right now will end up being the best poor choice." As with so many Obamamaniacs, that statement seems based more upon wishful thinking than upon any basis of rational thought. You certainly cannot say with any certainty that things will get "worse" [however that word in this case may be defined] because you do not know that for certain. On the contrary, it has already been established that it is the presence of the United States military that is inflaming the insurgency. As independent journalist Nir Rosen [who has spent much time in the region, far longer, I suspect, than you] has attempted to point out in the past, apparently to no avail, if the United States were to finally leave Iraq, who would the resistance fighters resist against? The freedom fighters would have no one to fight.
Again, Obama's bellicose rhetoric of wishing to leave 80,000 troops in Iraq or the region will do nothing to ease the fears of the Iraqis that the United States has no intention of leaving their country and allowing the Iraqis to control their own destiny, along with, I might add, their oil. Also, Obama's idea of shifting troops to Afghanistan is not too bright either, since Afghanis have already had their villages and homes torn apart by American bombs [just as John McCain did in Vietnam] and bullets. But to neoliberals like you, this does not matter, since America is doing all this to "help" the Afghani people.
Support the troops. Bring them home-ALL of them-now.
Republicans seem to be mostly incompetent as businessmen. They rely on corruption to make a business profit because they are unscrupulous.
They rant about how bad government is, and then they bring their innate greed and corruption to that job as well. Basically, they are unfit as human beings. Mostly, the 22%'ers should be incarcerated until they learn to behave themselves.
It's a pro-war commercial to the extent that:
a - it indicates that it is honorable to serve in a war of choice, to take orders that are morally unacceptable. This may not be a popular stance, but any soldier in Iraq who takes orders may be guilty of violations of the tenets of the Nuremburg Tribunals - how is that honorable? Soldiers have a duty to refuse orders that are illegal. The entire war is illegal. Therefore, all soldiers there are committing illegal actions. We must acknowledge that war makes monsters of us all, worshippers of Colonel Kurtz (see Haditha, Fallujah, Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, Mazar-e-Sharif).
b - it fails to mention the ultimate goal of exiting Iraq. It stresses the importance of funding the troops, and implied in that goal is funding the war. Lots of anti-war Democrats voted with the 131 Republicans who voted Present. The ad ignores that. If Pelosi had the votes of anti-war Dems, it may have passed.
c - it uses DCCC cash to project positive images of patriotic militarism, which is exactly what got us into this mess.
#43-Ken K.
Extremely well said. It is simply unfathomable how so many Americans, and especially liberals, still fall for the patriotic trap that soldiers are somehow honorably serving their country when they are aiding in the illegal and immoral occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. The only honorable thing for those in the military to do is to to resist [as those in the powerful documentary Sir! No Sir! did] by saying NO to the U.S. war machine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VD8ZZeDcpc&feature=related
I think Howard Dean is doing a bang-up job.
http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=4515
'During the first 10 weeks of 2007, Iraq accounted for 23 percent of the newshole for network TV news. In 2008, it plummeted to 3 percent during that period. On cable networks it fell from 24 percent to 1 percent, according to a study by the Project for Excellence in Journalism.'
Would the fact that this is a presidential election year, and Iraq (even in spite of 'the surge' spin) is still a negative issue for the Republicans, have anything to do with this, at all? Hmmmm.
Every dollar spent on the troops (or on anyone in need) is one less dollar that Republicans can give to big business.
Erroll @ 41:
Dude, if there was ever an advocate for the rest of the world, it's me. I won't try to kid anyone and say I understand a lot of other cultures or bullshit like that but I've been a lot of places and everywhere I went, people were people.
Just like most of us, they're trying to get by day to day. Some or nice and some are crooks - just like us. They aren't all the religious zealots our MSM wants us to believe. In fact, they think we're all religious zealots. What do you know about that???
And I'm also not a liberal. I have independent thought and don't need anyone else's dogma. That doesn't mean you can't convince me you're right about an issue, but I don't care what the liberal vs. conservative vs. all others standard issue stance on an issue is. I decide for myself and vote accordingly.
For the past 7 years I've thrown my hat in with dems due to mutual contempt for BushCo specifically and neocons in general.
Anyway, back to the point of what I was saying which was nobody can guarantee what the best solution to Iraq is right now. The reason is EVERY solution is bad. If a solution turns out to be a good one and we happen to choose it, it will be dumb luck.
That is unless you can guarantee that pulling all the troops out now is best for everyone - that means mostly the rest of the world and partly us since the rest of the world big time out-numbers us.
And by the way, if you EVER read anything I write that says something to the effect of doing what's best for us and screw everyone else, please let me know because it can only mean what I wrote was poorly worded. I seriously don't think like that.
MS-01 was held by Roger Wicker who took Lott's senate seat who retired to lobby (and for other likely reasons including his brother in law breaking federal law).
Regarding foreign tanks rolling in your neighborhood.
Whenever I get into it with a neocon I ask this one question:
'How would you like it if people from a few neighborhoods over came to your neighborhood and told you that you needed to change because they don't like the way you do things? Then if you don't do it they start threatening you. If that doesn't work they start fucking with your money. If that doesn't work they might just attack you.'
Erroll - Before you start talking like you know somebody you might try actually learning something about them.
Regarding "who will the resistance fighters fight?"
Ok, first you said we shouldn't only be thinking about us and then you come back with, "We must save ourselves!" And that was in the same post.
Are you an expert on Iraq or something? Do you know what's going to happen over there if we leave? I don't but from what I'm seeing it doesn't look good. You have three different ideologies on one map who have one resource to share and nobody is going to like any kind of compromise on it.
So we've ripped apart a formerly stable country and you think we can leave it behind? That might work fine. I'm not denying it. I'm saying my experience says it's not likely.
I think we have a duty to fix what we broke and I also realize we're a big part of the problem.
Frankly, I think the best solution is to get the most neutral and diplomatic countries on the planet to agree to fix the problem at our expense with no strings attached. And we get out and let them do that.
So in essence I almost agree with you except for the other equally important part of the equation isn't there - someone who can fix what we leave behind.
PS. WTF is an obamamaniac? Is that somebody who realizes he's ok and will probably do a competent job but not stellar and also recognizes the other candidates are far more part of the problems that need to be solved?
PPS. Back to visiting other cultures. Here's a link to my personal website with my personal experiences in other countries:
http://www.airfieldmodels.com/other/travels/
The ad is rather bland, and the same sort of attack-ad can be seen coming from Republicans as well. It lacks specifics, and rings a bit hollow.
A republican,
See=
Rush Limbaugh
Diaper David Vitter, Larry(toe tappin) Craig, Mark(like the boys young) Foley, Joe Lieberman, Bill O, Murdoch, Roger Ailes, Ann Coulter, 5 Deferment Cheney, I Lewis (Scooter) Libby-inmate#28301-016, Richard (tricky) Nixon, (man can't cause polution) Inhofe, Newt (I'd suspend free speech) Gingrech, Karl (Turdblossom) Rove..........
There are other definitions. You know what they are.
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