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It's just so hard to take the buffoons on the far right seriously when it comes to their incessant hysteria regarding anything involving Barack Obama (D). Their latest rant is that Obama is breaking federal law by using the likeness of the presidential seal with his new seal (above).

Seriously. The whack jobs over at the Weekly Standard are pretty much hyperventilating over it, even quoting the explicit language of 18 USC Sec. 713 [..].

Well, it took me about 15 minutes on Google Images to discover that John McCain's (R) own caucus -- the National Republican Senatorial Committee -- uses three different likenesses of the official seal...for fundraising purposes:

I don't know why anyone would be surprised.  Don't you know IOKIYAR?

UPDATE (Silent Patriot): Barack gives in to the haters, and has decided to drop the seal. Ambinder has the scoop.

I've had my fun with the Obama campaign's seal, and now that fun ends. I'm told that Obama recognizes that it was a silly mistake, that the universal reaction at Wacker and Michigan was, "Boy, was that dumb," and that they don't think the seal staging will matter to actual voters.



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This all ought to be on television, nightly!

The RNC should worry about where all the NRCC cash went to, who else stole the millions beside the main guy.

I tend to ignore republicans with their fake outrage and lies.

Please go to www.monicamemo and do a brief typekey registration and help me DDEEMMOOLLIISSHH this:

"Worst President Ever? NOT!

While hosting "The Laura Ingraham Show" and my own radio show over the past few days, I have listed a few of President Bush's jawdropping achievements. Because of popular demand, I list them again here.

We have been beaten over the head by the liberal mainstream press and the lefties in government that President Bush is "the worst president, maybe ever." For years, we've heard that he's an imbecile, a moron, ineffective, an incompetent boob who has ravaged the Constitution.

And yet, how is it that this complete idiot can continue to rack up victory after victory, both over America's enemies and his opponents here at home?

Just in the past week, President Bush secured funding for the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan through the end of his presidency (actually June 2009. You're welcome, Senator Obama.) He got that funding without preconditions attached and without a deadline for troop withdrawal. You'll recall that the Democrats' campaign platform in 2006 (and over the past two years) had been pulling funding for Iraq, setting limits on the president's ability to act, and effecting a timeline for withdrawal. They didn't get any of those things.

Also last week, President Bush got Congressional approval of his reform of FISA, which allows the program to wiretap terrorist suspects calling into the United States to proceed unabated. It also granted immunity to the telecom companies that were participating in this program TO PROTECT OUR LIVES. The Democrats had opposed the program since the New York Times splashed this state secret all over the front page. Last week, the President won the warrantless wiretapping approval and the telecom immunity.

So let's recap: The president gets Iraq war funding and no withdrawal deadline, beating the Democrats. He gets the wiretap program and the telecom immunity, beating the Democrats. He's winning in Iraq, beating both the Democrats AND al-Qaeda (a two-fer!). He's changing Afghanistan, another two-fer. He got two waves of tax cuts through, beating the Democrats. And he's prevented another terrorist attack on American soil since September 11, 2001.

He hasn't been perfect: he's failed on illegal immigration and energy independence, and now we're in crises on both scores, and federal spending has been wild. But show me a perfect president, and I'll show you a perfect person. They don't exist.

On balance, he's got a pretty stunning record.

Moron? Idiot? Boob? Incompetent? Looks pretty successful to me. And clever: nobody has parlayed that Reaganesque "cowboy simpleton" routine better than Bush. Like Reagan, Bush has accomplished some staggering things, while everyone was writing him off and no one was looking" -

Monica Crowley

That's monicamemo.com - let's ruin some asshole wingbats evening!

Go Obama, take back our symbols from those anti-American right wingers who have hijacked them!

This is why I would give President Obama about a 0% chance of bridging the left-right divide. The GOP will do anything and everything—no matter how dirty—to make Obama's first term a living hell. You think Billary deployed a "scorched earth" policy??? You ain't seen nothing yet. The GOP will do whatever they have to, to position themselves for 2012.

Just one more reason why I firmly believe this country is on a fast decline...with almost no hope for recovery.

Please tell me that I'm not the first one to notice that Saint Ronnie's version of the eagle has dropped the pretense of olive branches in favor of a key? (Oh, and the arrows are in the eagle's right foot). Dang, they make it hard not to read too much into that...

Timmy_D11 @ 4:

Please go to www.monicamemo and do a brief typekey registration and help me DDEEMMOOLLIISSHH this:

"Worst President Ever? NOT!

While hosting "The Laura Ingraham Show" and my own radio show over the past few days, I have listed a few of President Bush's jawdropping achievements. Because of popular demand, I list them again here.

We have been beaten over the head by the liberal mainstream press and the lefties in government that President Bush is "the worst president, maybe ever." For years, we've heard that he's an imbecile, a moron, ineffective, an incompetent boob who has ravaged the Constitution.

And yet, how is it that this complete idiot can continue to rack up victory after victory, both over America's enemies and his opponents here at home?

Just in the past week, President Bush secured funding for the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan through the end of his presidency (actually June 2009. You're welcome, Senator Obama.) He got that funding without preconditions attached and without a deadline for troop withdrawal. You'll recall that the Democrats' campaign platform in 2006 (and over the past two years) had been pulling funding for Iraq, setting limits on the president's ability to act, and effecting a timeline for withdrawal. They didn't get any of those things.

Also last week, President Bush got Congressional approval of his reform of FISA, which allows the program to wiretap terrorist suspects calling into the United States to proceed unabated. It also granted immunity to the telecom companies that were participating in this program TO PROTECT OUR LIVES. The Democrats had opposed the program since the New York Times splashed this state secret all over the front page. Last week, the President won the warrantless wiretapping approval and the telecom immunity.

So let's recap: The president gets Iraq war funding and no withdrawal deadline, beating the Democrats. He gets the wiretap program and the telecom immunity, beating the Democrats. He's winning in Iraq, beating both the Democrats AND al-Qaeda (a two-fer!). He's changing Afghanistan, another two-fer. He got two waves of tax cuts through, beating the Democrats. And he's prevented another terrorist attack on American soil since September 11, 2001.

He hasn't been perfect: he's failed on illegal immigration and energy independence, and now we're in crises on both scores, and federal spending has been wild. But show me a perfect president, and I'll show you a perfect person. They don't exist.

On balance, he's got a pretty stunning record.

Moron? Idiot? Boob? Incompetent? Looks pretty successful to me. And clever: nobody has parlayed that Reaganesque "cowboy simpleton" routine better than Bush. Like Reagan, Bush has accomplished some staggering things, while everyone was writing him off and no one was looking" -

Monica Crowley

Chimpy has made the US a total international laughing stock, but she's right about one thing. He has continually bitch-slapped the Dems to get what he wants.

All of those seals are legal.

It's only illegal to use a seal of that type if the intent is to trick people into thinking a government agency is supporting the group using the seal.

The Truth Hurts @ 7:

This is why I would give President Obama about a 0% chance of bridging the left-right divide. The GOP will do anything and everything—no matter how dirty—to make Obama's first term a living hell. You think Billary deployed a "scorched earth" policy??? You ain't seen nothing yet. The GOP will do whatever they have to, to position themselves for 2012.

I'm still holding out hope that a thorough @$$-whooping in Nov. will trigger the long-overdue revolt of the moderates...or force the entire party into splintered irrelevance.

all levels of gop intellect get to play throw a punch at obama and let see if it hurts

Will Obama, as president

-- pull American troops out of Iraq?

-- reverse Bush grabs of power?

-- seek from from day 1 to keep himself from being reelected?

-- aim to make an America we love?

Republicans:

"Waaaaaahhhhh!!! He can't do that; that's our idea!"

"Waaaaaahhhhh!!! How dare he place a harvest sunrise symbol on our eagle!"

"Waaaaaaahhhhh!!! Why couldn't we have thought of something that freakin' cool?!?!?!"

"Waaaaaahhhhhh!!! Bob Dole!

"Like Reagan, Bush has accomplished some staggering things, while everyone was writing him off and no one was looking..."

Yes, with lies, deceit and signing statements. Unparalleled secrecy while he sold out this nation for Big Oil and war profiteering, treason, murder, to name a few. Sure Monica, he's the best of the best. Please refer to Dennis Kucinich's 35 articles of impeachment and tell us how great he's been.

If anyone should be annoyed, it would be the estate of the Ramones.

Mike Barnacle standing in for Tweety. He is going to cover this... er... problem.

McCain the Liar @ 3:

I tend to ignore republicans with their fake outrage and lies.

Some of them may be faking their outrage. But I suspect the vast majority of them simply parrot the outrage they're told to parrot by their Republican leaders. They're mindless followers through and through.

The Republicans never seem to amaze me.

The stretch from now til November is going to be a tableaux of GOP buffoonery and self inflicted bleeding from witless nastiness gone awry to a point of near collapse and possible relegation to some musty box containing whig remnants and a whiff of the "Know Nothings".

It will be surreal, I tell you, but studying the patterns could be rewarding.

The various blab blobs tossed by usual suspects whether Brooks, Broder or whatever other deluded Looter Courtier now seem to have an effective shelf life of one or two news cycles before utterly decaying.

There are already troll comment patterns with fat traffic volumes on certain topic runs that allude to Obama unworthiness with lots of hyperventilating concern. I have a feeling a lot of the volume is an equivalent to false flag robo calls and much of it may come from disgruntled Paulistas , (an obsessive bunch), out to monkey wrench both parties in some nihilistic tantrum over their crackpot's failed bid.

Someone harpooned the giant squid that is the Looter Class GOP and it is spewing stinking ink clouds like some crazy writhing.

It will blow up in their faces as they start to resemble the batty aunt of legend who had to be kept in the attic.

Who started this? Limpdick?

Jeez.

But really, what's with the Latin?

So do they think their base, to whom this idiocy was directed, are so insulated from reality that they'll never learn about the rank hypocrisy of their rant against Obama? Or are the just idiots?

I vote for both.

I object to the republican versions!

It should NOT be an eagle, but a vulture, and a copy of the Constitution should be under that vulture, to illustrate how their bird takes a great big dump on The United States and our disappearing rights.

they are black and white thinkers. they sell their product(mccain) as being superior "straight talk express"...they have been successful with this linguistic talking points bull shit and attack patterns no matter how ridiculous.....their base covers the entire spectrum of intellect....i think sometimes we could learn from the other side although i consider myself a grey area thinker....i do believe some type of linguistic strategy would serve us well.

Obama's logo would be better if it had red and blue in it instead of just blue.

I'd rather not see America turn into crypts and bloods.

Nicole new and IMPORTANT article by LHP over at FDL on the Fisa debacle.

Have a great deal of respect for LHP...knows what she (I believe) is talking about. Spread the word
The Pending FISA bill. It’s Worse Than I Thought
By: looseheadprop Monday June 23, 2008 4:03 pm

Last Friday I had a total meltdown about the House passage of the deeply flawed FISA bill. Presumptive presidential nominee and newly minted leader of the Democratic party Obama's statement in support of the bill broke my heart.

http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/23/the-pending-fisa-bill-its-worse-than-i...

I know I shouldn't be surprised, but I just can't help it.

The "Weakly" Standard sure could use some hypocrite checkers on their staff.

Repukes can't stand being beat at their own game. This is a case of clean OneUpmanship by Obama. Atta boy, Barack! We'll not only stomp them to smithereens in November but we will send these irrelevant A$$hats back into the 19th century!

The Truth Hurts @ 7:

This is why I would give President Obama about a 0% chance of bridging the left-right divide. The GOP will do anything and everything—no matter how dirty—to make Obama's first term a living hell. You think Billary deployed a "scorched earth" policy??? You ain't seen nothing yet. The GOP will do whatever they have to, to position themselves for 2012.

Just one more reason why I firmly believe this country is on a fast decline...with almost no hope for recovery.

He'll bridge it, alright. The Republicans will continue to get hammered at the ballot box until only those willing to actually work with him remain.

It won't happen overnight, but a strong "mandate" in November will be sure to get the attention of those worried about the longevity of their stay in DC.

Ah, another day another Obama cave.

I really do wonder if the man has a spine.

As soon as the right wing media machine complains about anything, from lapel pins to podium emblems, he quickly caves in to their wishes. As he has done with policy votes countless times.

Where have you gone Hillary? Our party cries for your strength. We're out here stuck with this charlatan.

I agree with the points you are trying to make, but Barack's new seal looks vaguely fascistic and a little weird!

We cannot remove any pressure from the Senate regarding this highly flawed FISA bill. The fact that it roared through the house is tantamount to derelection of duty by all House members who voted "yes" - we need a roll call list, please - someone?? Then we shall work to remove every one of these anti-patriots who voted to further destroy our constitutional and civil rights. They will be driven from office one by one either in 08, 10, or 12.

Instant visual popped up in my head:
Republican pointing to a bullet hole in his foot, doing a poor job of hiding a pistol behind his back, and screaming, "Look! Someone shot me in the foot! Note my outrage!"

And then a second visual of some repub 29-percenter looking at said bullet hole and screaming, "GASP! Damn them thar libruls and Dumbocrats! Git 'em!"

all your eagles belong to us.

Who reads the Weekly SubStandard? William the Bloody Kristal and Britney Hume?

VietVet8666 @ 13:

Will Obama, as president

-- pull American troops out of Iraq?

NO

-- reverse Bush grabs of power?

NO

-- seek from from day 1 to keep himself from being reelected?

NO

-- aim to make an America we love?

NO

Obama lovers, come next year, you will be very disappointed.
http://www.libertystickers.com/sites/38289/images/youre_going_to_be_very...

Timmy_D11 @ 4:

Please go to www.monicamemo and do a brief typekey registration and help me DDEEMMOOLLIISSHH this:

"Worst President Ever? NOT!

While hosting "The Laura Ingraham Show" and my own radio show over the past few days, I have listed a few of President Bush's jawdropping achievements. Because of popular demand, I list them again here.

We have been beaten over the head by the liberal mainstream press and the lefties in government that President Bush is "the worst president, maybe ever." For years, we've heard that he's an imbecile, a moron, ineffective, an incompetent boob who has ravaged the Constitution.

And yet, how is it that this complete idiot can continue to rack up victory after victory, both over America's enemies and his opponents here at home?

Just in the past week, President Bush secured funding for the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan through the end of his presidency (actually June 2009. You're welcome, Senator Obama.) He got that funding without preconditions attached and without a deadline for troop withdrawal. You'll recall that the Democrats' campaign platform in 2006 (and over the past two years) had been pulling funding for Iraq, setting limits on the president's ability to act, and effecting a timeline for withdrawal. They didn't get any of those things.

Also last week, President Bush got Congressional approval of his reform of FISA, which allows the program to wiretap terrorist suspects calling into the United States to proceed unabated. It also granted immunity to the telecom companies that were participating in this program TO PROTECT OUR LIVES. The Democrats had opposed the program since the New York Times splashed this state secret all over the front page. Last week, the President won the warrantless wiretapping approval and the telecom immunity.

So let's recap: The president gets Iraq war funding and no withdrawal deadline, beating the Democrats. He gets the wiretap program and the telecom immunity, beating the Democrats. He's winning in Iraq, beating both the Democrats AND al-Qaeda (a two-fer!). He's changing Afghanistan, another two-fer. He got two waves of tax cuts through, beating the Democrats. And he's prevented another terrorist attack on American soil since September 11, 2001.

He hasn't been perfect: he's failed on illegal immigration and energy independence, and now we're in crises on both scores, and federal spending has been wild. But show me a perfect president, and I'll show you a perfect person. They don't exist.

On balance, he's got a pretty stunning record.

Moron? Idiot? Boob? Incompetent? Looks pretty successful to me. And clever: nobody has parlayed that Reaganesque "cowboy simpleton" routine better than Bush. Like Reagan, Bush has accomplished some staggering things, while everyone was writing him off and no one was looking" -

Monica Crowley

Oh dear Monica - what drivel you spew! The only things he's accomplished have been those which he would have vetoed in the first place or placed signing statements on to exonerate himself once again. How inexperienced you are in your political acumen as well. Everyone knows that he had a totally stacked deck and compromised the three branches of our government - thus rendering it a dictatorship. I ask you this fair and simple question: Name me a dictator whose power was unchecked for 6 years and then let's compare accomplishments, shall we?

You're speaking of a man who has committed 35 impeachable offenses - all of which have been documented for history with dates, times, and accurate details. The only reason he has not been impeached is because he's blackmailed Congress with his illegal wiretaps. Why else would he NOT be able to get a legitimate FISA warrant if he was spying on so-called suspected terrorists, dearie?

Blackmail does many things to people not the least of which is create a muzzle if they want to keep their jobs and not be disgraced by even the most unsavory of charges against them. Certainly the reason he has not been impeached has absolutely zilch to do with any form of accomplishment of this man. Bush has broken the record for being the most hated man "on planet earth" - did you get that poll? Obviously, not.

I suggest that you back up some of your spin with facts please or go back to the reichwing lockstep blog from which you slithered.

TimmyD11 - Thanks for this twisted sycophant's email. I hope she reads this blog.

wheyghey @ 36:

Obama lovers, come next year, you will be very disappointed.
http://www.libertystickers.com/sites/38289/images/youre_going_to_be_very_disa.jpg

lovers is alittle heavy for me....but i'll tell you this i will be disappointed if mcBush wins the election this year........those permanent tax break don't help me one bit

karl @ 41:

wheyghey @ 36:

Obama lovers, come next year, you will be very disappointed.
http://www.libertystickers.com/sites/38289/images/youre_going_to_be_very_disa.jpg

lovers is alittle heavy for me....but i'll tell you this i will be disappointed if mcBush wins the election this year........those permanent tax break don't help me one bit

I'll be disappointed when either of them wins. Their presidency will not help Iraqis, Afghanis, or Palestinians one bit.

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wheyghey @ 38:

VietVet8666 @ 13:

Will Obama, as president

-- pull American troops out of Iraq?

NO

-- reverse Bush grabs of power?

NO

-- seek from from day 1 to keep himself from being reelected?

NO

-- aim to make an America we love?

NO

Obama lovers, come next year, you will be very disappointed.
http://www.libertystickers.com/sites/38289/images/youre_going_to_be_very_disa.jpg

you got the question wrong ....will mccain as president.....no...no...no...no

Hahaha what idiots. Look at the illustration in the Weekly Standard article. It shows Obama's logo to be different from both the presidential and vice presidential seals. It's obviously based on the same classic motif of a bird holding olive branches and arrows, but it contains none of the other markings and does not assert itself as being sanctioned by the President.

The above shown Republican Presidential Roundtable logo, however, is almost an exact copy of the Vice Presidential seal.

Come to think of it, SHOULDN'T THE WEEKLY STANDARD BE FINED FOR USING AN ILLUSTRATION OF THE OFFICIAL SEALS IN A COMMERCIAL PUBLICATION?

UPDATE (Silent Patriot): Barack gives in to the haters, and has decided to drop the seal.

Wow! Are you serious? This is just pathetic.

Is he losing his nerve? The appropriate response would have been, "Go fuck yourself, you whiny little bitch." He'd want to rephrase it a little, maybe something more like, "Notwithstanding the use of a very similar logo by various Republican Senatorial fundraising organizations, the prohibition on the use of an emblem similar to the presidential seal only applies if you are trying to mislead someone. Now, I'm not trying to mislead anyone, but the people who brought up this issue are." I think my version has a little more verve, but the one he'd have to use will probably be more polished.

So at what point does he say, "Stop! This is a ridiculous issue, and the people raising these questions are guilty of the worst sort of hypocrisy and are intentionally misleading." There's lots of polite ways to call people lying punks. Or are we going to get another Kerry reaction? "Gosh, I knew those swiftboat allegations were not true, so I didn't see any point in refuting them."

wheyghey @ 42:

karl @ 41:

wheyghey @ 36:

Obama lovers, come next year, you will be very disappointed.
http://www.libertystickers.com/sites/38289/images/youre_going_to_be_very_disa.jpg

lovers is alittle heavy for me....but i'll tell you this i will be disappointed if mcBush wins the election this year........those permanent tax break don't help me one bit

I'll be disappointed when either of them wins. Their presidency will not help Iraqis, Afghanis, or Palestinians one bit.

you may be correct but i do know you can't be absolute in your statement...

karl @ 41:

wheyghey @ 36:

Obama lovers, come next year, you will be very disappointed.
http://www.libertystickers.com/sites/38289/images/youre_going_to_be_very_disa.jpg

lovers is alittle heavy for me....but i'll tell you this i will be disappointed if mcBush wins the election this year........those permanent tax break don't help me one bit

That's easy enough to solve. Start making more money.

GMB @ 49:

karl @ 41:

wheyghey @ 36:

Obama lovers, come next year, you will be very disappointed.
http://www.libertystickers.com/sites/38289/images/youre_going_to_be_very_disa.jpg

lovers is alittle heavy for me....but i'll tell you this i will be disappointed if mcBush wins the election this year........those permanent tax break don't help me one bit

That's easy enough to solve. Start making more money.

Sorry if that didn't sound right Karl. Sarcasm can be tough to pull off in a comment thread.

I have to wonder if the GOP is more upset about the eagle or the idea that a politician can be for Americans over the idea of Americans for a politician.

GMB @ 50:

GMB @ 49:

karl @ 41:

wheyghey @ 36:
lovers is alittle heavy for me....but i'll tell you this i will be disappointed if mcBush wins the election this year........those permanent tax break don't help me one bit

That's easy enough to solve. Start making more money.

Sorry if that didn't sound right Karl. Sarcasm can be tough to pull off in a comment thread.

i thought so you read me correctly though i'm a little sensitive these days

The inexorable weight of a growingly grim reality is laying heavy on the public psyche between a clumsy failed war, an economic squeeze play and watershed transformations that will not play out smoothly or painlessly.

Little of this is subject to significant influence by any White House tenant. The best bet is to pick the one least likely to make it monumentally worse and young Obama has a clear advantage there.

The Constitution will get through it. Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus during the Civil War and was also noted for: "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

9/11 gave the GOP a window to fool all of the people some of the time from national trauma but blew it with a certain arrogant splendor and are now reduced to attempting to fool a small 'some of the people all of the time' but the effort is under performing and descending into a Mawkish GOP sqwauk fest that is astonishingly self weakening.

It would seem that the Looter Class courtiers, minions and grandee's are oblivious to growing impotence of their tattered raggedy ploy plays.

wheyghey @ 36:

Obama lovers, come next year, you will be very disappointed.
http://www.libertystickers.com/sites/38289/images/youre_going_to_be_very_disa.jpg

Because we will remember how satisfied we all were with the tsunami of Republican corruption? Oh boy I can't wait to miss that.

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Lets get to the REALLY important stuff- like FONTS.

dada @ 46:

UPDATE (Silent Patriot): Barack gives in to the haters, and has decided to drop the seal.

Wow! Are you serious? This is just pathetic.

I don't know. That logo did kind of suck, actually. Not because it's illegal in any way. Just tacky.

I agree with the 'tacky' comment.

I'd quite like it if he released a series of these, just to keep winding these sanctimonious little turds up.

osiris @ 39:

Timmy_D11 @ 4:

I suggest that you back up some of your spin with facts please or go back to the reichwing lockstep blog from which you slithered.

Read the VERY FIRST sentence I wrote before I wrote what that crazy lady wrote!

Breaking the federal law? No problem, it is executive privilege.

gwen @ 57:

dada @ 46:

UPDATE (Silent Patriot): Barack gives in to the haters, and has decided to drop the seal.

Wow! Are you serious? This is just pathetic.

I don't know. That logo did kind of suck, actually. Not because it's illegal in any way. Just tacky.

Did Obama drop the seal because it was tacky?

Don’t you know IOKIYAR?

You shouldn't say that, don't you know repugs don't understand snark? They hear that and think it really is okay to do whatever they want. Bad idea, republicans don't have the mental capacity to understand sarcasm, too often Dems help them with cynical snark they take literally because they're stupid. I can see them smiling thinking "what stupid liberals whimps".

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over DIEBOLD! @ 58:

I agree with the 'tacky' comment.

+1.

I was thinking that it really wasn't that good in the first place. I am not going to get vexed enough to consider this a "fold". This may just as well be Obama once again acting the role of Adult and letting the repugs keep their crappy little yellow truck rather than have them waste more of our time while we try to contain their collective pants-pooing hissy-fit. I will say, though, that he underestimates their willingness to hold their breath 'til they turns blue. Like, I mean, what? The repugs are going to drop this matter now? Uhhhh no. They have nothing but personal attacks and half-truths so they will shamelessly ride this into the ground as well, no matter what the Obama camp did.

BennyP @ 56:

Lets get to the REALLY important stuff- like FONTS.

Yeah, is Obama using black power fonts? Stay tuned to FOX spews.......

Are Sen Obama and Sen McCain having a flip/flop contest?

The sheer arrogance of all of these pols is simply amazing.

Ruling Class Rou @ 66:

BennyP @ 56:

Lets get to the REALLY important stuff- like FONTS.

Yeah, is Obama using black power fonts? Stay tuned to FOX spews.......

Font choice for a presidential campaign or Terrorist Font Jab? That story and bikini'd girls with machine guns cumming [wink wink wink!!!] up next on the FoxNews Super Power Hour! Thinking adults not welcome!

So Obama caved in. Get ready for president McCain. :-(

Ruling Class Rou @ 66:

BennyP @ 56:

Lets get to the REALLY important stuff- like FONTS.

Yeah, is Obama using black power fonts? Stay tuned to FOX spews.......

Nice:)

When will the charges of illegally using the likeness of the presidential seal be brought against Sen. McCain? I wanna see the fucker go to jail for it!

I thought at first the header refered to the far right balloons.

That'll work too, they're both filled with hot air.

Bonkers @ 69:

Ruling Class Rou @ 66:

BennyP @ 56:

Lets get to the REALLY important stuff- like FONTS.

Yeah, is Obama using black power fonts? Stay tuned to FOX spews.......

Font choice for a presidential campaign or Terrorist Font Jab? That story and bikini'd girls with machine guns cumming [wink wink wink!!!] up next on the FoxNews Super Power Hour! Thinking adults not welcome!

But first..this just in, McCain advisor admits declaration of martial law would help his candidate in November...developing story...

Ruling Class Rou @ 75:

Bonkers @ 69:

Ruling Class Rou @ 66:

BennyP @ 56:

Yeah, is Obama using black power fonts? Stay tuned to FOX spews.......

Font choice for a presidential campaign or Terrorist Font Jab? That story and bikini'd girls with machine guns cumming [wink wink wink!!!] up next on the FoxNews Super Power Hour! Thinking adults not welcome!

But first..this just in, McCain advisor admits declaration of martial law would help his candidate in November...developing story...

Martial law and how it will benefit you and your whole family! On our panel to discuss: Dick Cheney, an anonymous upper management-type from Blackwater, a rabid republican Senator, and a lone liberal with her mouth taped shut. Stay tuned right after this add for the latest 10mpg SUV...

Ruthless People @ 6:

Go Obama, take back our symbols from those anti-American right wingers who have hijacked them!

yeah and while your at it , vote no on fisa ,

Ratface @ 70:

So Obama caved in. Get ready for president McCain. :-(

"Obama changed a logo. Therefore, he will lose to John McCain and sell out all his ideals in the process."

...bit skewed logic, isn't it?

Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo @ 19:

The Republicans never seem to amaze me.

HA!

The republicans must relate everything to running a business. It is not a corporate logo, it is a public logo owned by WE THE PEOPLE, not YOU THE REPUBLICANS!! Jesus these nut jobs are just getting more and more pathetic everyday.

tyree @ 77:

Ruthless People @ 6:

Go Obama, take back our symbols from those anti-American right wingers who have hijacked them!

yeah and while your at it , vote no on fisa ,

No on FISA first, then sweat the logo. Earn those wings, son.

osiris @ 39:

Timmy_D11 @ 4:

Please go to www.monicamemo and do a brief typekey registration and help me DDEEMMOOLLIISSHH this:

"Worst President Ever? NOT!

While hosting "The Laura Ingraham Show" and my own radio show over the past few days, I have listed a few of President Bush's jawdropping achievements. Because of popular demand, I list them again here.

We have been beaten over the head by the liberal mainstream press and the lefties in government that President Bush is "the worst president, maybe ever." For years, we've heard that he's an imbecile, a moron, ineffective, an incompetent boob who has ravaged the Constitution.

And yet, how is it that this complete idiot can continue to rack up victory after victory, both over America's enemies and his opponents here at home?

Just in the past week, President Bush secured funding for the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan through the end of his presidency (actually June 2009. You're welcome, Senator Obama.) He got that funding without preconditions attached and without a deadline for troop withdrawal. You'll recall that the Democrats' campaign platform in 2006 (and over the past two years) had been pulling funding for Iraq, setting limits on the president's ability to act, and effecting a timeline for withdrawal. They didn't get any of those things.

Also last week, President Bush got Congressional approval of his reform of FISA, which allows the program to wiretap terrorist suspects calling into the United States to proceed unabated. It also granted immunity to the telecom companies that were participating in this program TO PROTECT OUR LIVES. The Democrats had opposed the program since the New York Times splashed this state secret all over the front page. Last week, the President won the warrantless wiretapping approval and the telecom immunity.

So let's recap: The president gets Iraq war funding and no withdrawal deadline, beating the Democrats. He gets the wiretap program and the telecom immunity, beating the Democrats. He's winning in Iraq, beating both the Democrats AND al-Qaeda (a two-fer!). He's changing Afghanistan, another two-fer. He got two waves of tax cuts through, beating the Democrats. And he's prevented another terrorist attack on American soil since September 11, 2001.

He hasn't been perfect: he's failed on illegal immigration and energy independence, and now we're in crises on both scores, and federal spending has been wild. But show me a perfect president, and I'll show you a perfect person. They don't exist.

On balance, he's got a pretty stunning record.

Moron? Idiot? Boob? Incompetent? Looks pretty successful to me. And clever: nobody has parlayed that Reaganesque "cowboy simpleton" routine better than Bush. Like Reagan, Bush has accomplished some staggering things, while everyone was writing him off and no one was looking" -

Monica Crowley

Oh dear Monica - what drivel you spew! The only things he's accomplished have been those which he would have vetoed in the first place or placed signing statements on to exonerate himself once again. How inexperienced you are in your political acumen as well. Everyone knows that he had a totally stacked deck and compromised the three branches of our government - thus rendering it a dictatorship. I ask you this fair and simple question: Name me a dictator whose power was unchecked for 6 years and then let's compare accomplishments, shall we?

You're speaking of a man who has committed 35 impeachable offenses - all of which have been documented for history with dates, times, and accurate details. The only reason he has not been impeached is because he's blackmailed Congress with his illegal wiretaps. Why else would he NOT be able to get a legitimate FISA warrant if he was spying on so-called suspected terrorists, dearie?

Blackmail does many things to people not the least of which is create a muzzle if they want to keep their jobs and not be disgraced by even the most unsavory of charges against them. Certainly the reason he has not been impeached has absolutely zilch to do with any form of accomplishment of this man. Bush has broken the record for being the most hated man "on planet earth" - did you get that poll? Obviously, not.

I suggest that you back up some of your spin with facts please or go back to the reichwing lockstep blog from which you slithered.

monica crowley was keith olbermann's worst person in the world tonight---LOL

Jim @ 32:

Ah, another day another Obama cave.

I really do wonder if the man has a spine.

As soon as the right wing media machine complains about anything, from lapel pins to podium emblems, he quickly caves in to their wishes. As he has done with policy votes countless times.

Where have you gone Hillary? Our party cries for your strength. We're out here stuck with this charlatan.

I almost feel like Senator John Kerry is running again for President.

Dear Stupid Democrats:

DON'T FOLD. By folding on this tiny tiny point, means they are going to push harder on other more important things. That Obama caved on this gives the Republicans the idea that it's "The same old spineless democrats".

NEVER FOLD. FIGHT. Let them make a stink and make fools of themselves.

But no, the Dems fold. They do this a few more times, and it's President McCain.

Morons.

you know when I saw this I was thinking STFU you whiny little bastards and as I looked through the posts and saw that ( can't use that word here) say that chimpy is so great no the leadership of the demos is that bad I mean I think they'll grow something close to a spine when they have the whiye house and a majority but they'll still cave when a rethug says boo if they were around when wayergate got all the press Nixon won't have had to resign impeachment won't have been on the table.
In a perfect world obama gets into office and elects a AG goes after all the crooks from the last 8 years and not what will happen a hearing and then nothing
The word of law means nothing unless it's for tkose with the power the constitution is just a piece of paper unless it can be used to advance those with power all the nice words about america are just that words or more to the point pillow talk to get you to believe the lie remember truth justice and the america way two of those no long belong whose justice? whose truth??

Check out McCain's campaign button at http://store.johnmccain.com/v/vspfiles/photos/BTR2372-2.jpg , positioning his head alongside the heads on Mount Rushmore! He's not merely suggesting you associate him with a likeness of the Presidential seal, he's asking you to already imagine him worthy of being added to a national monument depicting the four greatest presidents in all of freakin' U.S. history!

Plus he's shown to be a huge giant of a man with incredibly broad shoulders, wide and sturdy enough for an eagle to practice "touch and go" landings!

But what's going on in the right jowl -- that can't be a chaw of tobacco in there?! It must be an ample supply of worms for those baby eagles back in the nest.

So many people I talk to are certain Obama will win. Sorry, I hate to be a pessimist, but I don't think it's going to be that easy. The right has barely started it's smear campaign. Kind of pisses me off that Obama caved and pulled his logo.

Barack is turning into a typical, spineless Democrat.

osiris@39 that post was the post of the day the reichwing is nothing if not diluted with their own type of kool aid everything to do with security from ouside threats is nothing but a veil to the really purpose internal security didn't Rove want the rethugs to be the ones in power if internal terrorism doesn't work or is too news worthy ( anthrax attacks) blackmail the opposition into if not agreeing at least their silence the only problem with not doing something when your blackmailed is that it never stops if hoyer likes farm animals well the blackmailer still has the goods on you if pelosi was a little to lacks on accepting money for a lap dance well it's still out there. it doesn't do away It's like a lie until you confront it it has power over you but then again these people have had a piece of the power that is washington and like any addiction it's hard to give up what with all the parties the corporate funded junkettes seein far away places on the people's dime and just the power of it all

Brad Rousse @ 78:

Ratface @ 70:

So Obama caved in. Get ready for president McCain. :-(

"Obama changed a logo. Therefore, he will lose to John McCain and sell out all his ideals in the process."

...bit skewed logic, isn't it?

I think the point is that if Obama is going to cave on something small like this, what's in store for the future? Seriously, there's NO reason he should have pulled that logo. It does look very weak of him.

The pasty faced little babies are jealous! Obama a real man takes it down to satisfy the cry baby rethuglicans.
What a stupid little story, typical inane political shit we get every day from these lame right wingers.

i'm still upset that they passed on my logo submission: an elephant getting smacked over the head with a giant mallet, with the inscription, "DIE FACISTS DIE".

Even Jon Stewart was making fun of. Guess they didn't do any research at TDS lol.

How about a blog site thats pro Republican using the real deal???? I thought that was a no-no to use the Pres. Seal seeing its suppose to be non-partisan and represents the Presidential Office NOT the party occuping it.

http://blogsforvictory.com/

xoites defends Constitution @ 74:

Bush has not been perfect.

Oh sure. But other than those... Boy, what a nit picker. ;-)

I can't believe he caved into that BS criticism. I thought the seal was awesome because it gave people a sense of a President Obama. It seems to me that Obama tends to cave in at the first sign of controversy -- even if it comes purely from the right. Look how fast he ditched the guy on his VP committee. I have to say that it's starting to become a bothersome trend. He needs to stand up to these people at some point even if it's over a stinkin' logo.

Not one peep from these right wing freaks over bushs "Western White House, Crawford" logo.

They can kiss my ass!!

Neal @ 88:

Barack is turning into a typical, spineless Democrat.

Gawd, I hope Obama doesn't get controlled like Kerry!

This guy is really scary!!!
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Obama Pulls New Presidential Seal

Monday, June 23, 2008 8:09 PM

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Succumbing to an avalanche of criticism, Sen. Barack Obama's campaign has apparently decided to back away from its trial balloon of a new presidential seal.

Newsmax’s lead story Monday morning reported on Obama’s new version of the presidential seal, but a campaign spokesman now says it won’t be used again.

“That was a one-time thing for a one-time event,” Robert Gibbs asserted to CNN about the rather intricately designed seal that made its debut last Friday.

The new seal was unveiled on Obama's podium when he spoke to a group of Democratic governors.

The Obama seal did include the American bald eagle clutching arrows and an olive branch, but the resemblance ended there.

The Latin phrase "E Pluribus Unum," which translates to "Out of many, one," was replaced with "Vero Possumus," which translates to "Truly, we are able" — a rough translation of the Obama campaign slogan "Yes we can."

As Newsmax reported, the deletion of "E Pluribus Unum," long considered the de-facto motto of the United States, is not accidental for multiculturalists, who have long denigrated the concept that immigrants must strip away their old culture in favor of the "oneness" of American civilization.

In the 1990s, such activists promoted the alternative concept of the nation's ethnic "mosaic," rather than a single, overarching metaphor to describe American society. For example, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan has pointedly criticized the "E Pluribus Unum" motto as not reflecting the nation's diversity.

And CNN reported that Obama was not simply facing critics from the right, but also from some left-wing supporters who did not like his new and improved seal.

“Many wondered whether a seal — with Latin phrasing no less — was the best idea for a candidate fighting for the working-class vote and trying to fend off allegations of elitism,” CNN reported.

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Honestly unless you have a revolution in America and the power is sitting in the peoples hands and not the corporations, then nothing will change.

dada @ 63:

gwen @ 57:

dada @ 46:

Wow! Are you serious? This is just pathetic.

I don't know. That logo did kind of suck, actually. Not because it's illegal in any way. Just tacky.

Did Obama drop the seal because it was tacky?

No....because he has no backbone and would be a HORRIBLE PRESIDENT!!!

Ruth @ 101:

dada @ 63:

gwen @ 57:

dada @ 46:

I don't know. That logo did kind of suck, actually. Not because it's illegal in any way. Just tacky.

Did Obama drop the seal because it was tacky?

No....because he has no backbone and would be a HORRIBLE PRESIDENT!!!

get a grip..................

why does he need that logo? is it for his over inflated ego? his megalomania? what?

CNN,FOX made a big deal out of the seal, Wolfe just was beside himself When in the h--- is someone going to call these McCain lovers out, people like WOLFE.

I agree that there is nothing but hypocrisy in the outrage of the left. That said, this little logo really does remind me of some prop from Saturday Night Live. Someone on the Obama team needs a demotion for this nonsense.

He caves into republican pressure about his silly logo, but he turns a deaf ear to Democrats with regard to the FISA amendment. Interesting.

candideinnc @ 105:

I agree that there is nothing but hypocrisy in the outrage of the left. That said, this little logo really does remind me of some prop from Saturday Night Live. Someone on the Obama team needs a demotion for this nonsense.

I agree that there is nothing but hypocrisy in the outrage of the left. That said, this little logo really does remind me of some prop from Saturday Night Live. Someone on the Obama team needs a demotion for this nonsense.(Oops--hypocrisy of the RIGHT. My bad. I need my first cup of coffee.)

Thanks for showing the republican seals. That's fair and balanced. Unlike the tv news coverage which has only shown Obama's logo.

WHAT ABOUT John "the bush republican" McCain using these STOLEN catch phrases from VIAGRA--->

1 that's what i mean about taking a hard look at things
2 it keeps me from rolling out of bed at night
3 every inch a president
4 my cindypoo says "it's good to keep a hard man down"

DIDNT THE GOP JUST STEAL THE AD QUOTE FROM SOME DEPRESENT ?

a new presidential seal, people are batshit crazy , we dont need no stinking new seal we need an asshole whos going to defend the constitution , obama aint it!

"Cave"?

It's not like he pulled it because some right-wing wackaloon said it was illegal (it's not). He pulled it because it's stupid, ugly, tacky, and presumptuous. And before CNN or FOX even said anything about this seal, it had been widely mocked in the left-wing blogs I frequent (there was a big mock-fest at the Great Orange Satan, for instance). I think it might have even been pulled before FOX picked up the "story."

There's no cave to the right here, just the recognition of a stupid idea.

Don't forget the Christian Ku Klux Klan organization's logos. Any NRA bumper sticker you see is a Christian racist gun nut extremist.

yeah, you can add Jon Stewart to the list of self-important gasbags whining about this silly logo thing as well. he spent about 5 minutes of undeserved time on it last nite, in addition to his baseless hit piece against Obama over campaign financing. what is happening to Jon Stewart, he seems almost openly hostile to Obama, for no apparent reason.

candideinnc @ 105:

I agree that there is nothing but hypocrisy in the outrage of the left. That said, this little logo really does remind me of some prop from Saturday Night Live. Someone on the Obama team needs a demotion for this nonsense.

so, exactly why do you Republican trolls come here and read and comment on this Democratic site? do you just hate yourselves, or are you purely addicted to the feeling of annoying people?

The right-wing is really scraping the bottom of the barrel if this is the best that they can do. Anybody that has a ponderous elephant as their logo should not cast stones. Besides they wrap themselves in the American Flag everyday and use it in their campaign logos.

So go ahead and use the Obama logo. But I gotta say it kinda sucks as a graphic. The color is wimpy and the eagle looks a little overweight. C'mon let's use a power color pallet and get that eagle lean and mean. I want to see that eagle swooping down on some freightened right wing hawk for dinner.

GObama

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