Report: Bush Justice Department broke the law by hiring only loyal Bushies
By SilentPatriot Tuesday Jun 24, 2008 8:45am
File this under: Illegal Politicization of Justice
"Individuals at the department were rejecting any of our candidates who could be construed as left-wing or who were perceived, based on their appearances and resumes and so forth, as being more liberal," Kevin Ohlson, deputy director of the department's executive office of immigration review, complained to Justice investigators.
The ramifications of politicizing the traditionally-independent Justice Department are manifest. The real question is whether or not Congress will do anything about it. When you take into account the US attorney scandal and the prosecution of Alabama Governor Don Siegelman, I'm pretty sure an entire impeachment case could be built upon this.
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Pelosi will never put impeachment back on the table.
Somehow she fears doing her job. I don't understand why they don't realize their approval ratings are lower than Bush's precisely b/c they won't exercise their oversight of him.
Impeaching the president is not going to mess up the election. It will probably HELP the election. It would certainly help the country.
If Ford hadn't pardonned Nixon...
If Clinton hadn't let Iran-Contra go...
If anyone held these assholes accountable, we wouldn't be here today.
It COULD be used in impeachment proceedings. So COULD any number of Bush's crimes. But they won't, because most of the Democratic party in Congress has no spine, and Pelosi has made it crystal clear that she's on Bush's side.
"Impeachment is not on the table." = "I am too weak and cowardly to go through impeaching the most unpopular president in the history of the USA."
Yeah, this or any of the other hundred illegal acts.
Impeach this fuck already. What are they waiting for?
I saw this report yesterday. These guys aren't a govt of the people by the people. They're a junta. And the last two elections weren't elections, they were coup's
Congress will probably do what they have been doing for 7 and 1/2 years and just roll over, defer to the unitary executive and concede to the will of the Republican party. Thanks democrats for showing us that there is no such thing as a good politician. Bush might be consistently wrong, but at least he is consistent
Oh for Bob's sake, hold the damn hearings and show the American public the evidence and impeach this administration.
And would someone please waterboard Karl Rove already? Sorry, I'm not for torture, but if I was, I'd start with him.
You can just add that to Bush's tab. Yet another crime the Democrats are too cowardly to do anything about.
If torture and tossing out the Constitution wasn't enough this isn't going to do it.
And now like the Roman Senate at the end of the Empire... our Senators seek to curry favor with the Emperor, at the expense of those they represent, by trading away their rights.
Pelosi, Hoyer, and Reid have traded away our Fourth Amendment rights with the FISA compromise to appease a criminal administration and absolve them of their crimes. They have become accomplices in the death of the Republic.
What matters it if another series of crimes by Bush and Cheney are uncovered? No one will be held accountable, no consequence for crimes committed, the end of the rule of law.
LibertyLover @ 8:
I have absolutely no qualms about Karl being waterboarded. After all the Administration claims that waterboarding is not torture right?
we're going to continue to do nothing though, right?
i mean, why should we start now?
Goodling was a tip of the iceberg. This was the worst-kept secret in DC. It was common knowledge, lunchroom gossip and well known to the media from the get-go.
mudshark @ 6:
Yup...we can thank the GOP for that. And a cowardly democratic congress and senate.
I shocked! Appalled, I say!
The real question is: Which hirings and appointments were NOT politicized?
liberalDAPofDESTINYmoderation @ 14:
I think it's high time that THE PEOPLE organized, and remind these fucks just who they work for...US! Not corporations!
I'd like to remind Pelosi, Reid, and Hoyer that elections have consequences ...
Perhaps impeachment might be seen as a distraction from the 'real work' at hand. But damned if I'll trust you to do a good job there if you can't stand up and impeach a blatantly corrupt and unethical president.
I think Feingold,Dodd or Biden should be in charge of the Seante..
Senator Reid seems to be too much compromising fellow..
There is nothing wrong with compromising..but when the issues are 'war & peace' and the 'Constitution..' then compromising means destroying this country,and someone in the Senate needs to stand up and do his job.
Pelosi,Hoyer..and Rahm all need to be replaced by more louder voices and more vigor for what's right and what's good for the people of this country...
Joe Scarborough was yucking it up about this, this morning. He was insinuating that it happens in every administration.
with friends like these mcC*ntIsMyWife'sMiddleName will continue to get a free ride.
sorry, wrong thread. have a laugh anyway
We're miles ahead of the curve on this.
The general voting public doesn't even have a clue that this is all going on, ask anyone at the local grocery store and see for yourself.
You can thank the Corporate Mainstream Media for that.
I'll bet they wouldn't have the votes to even bother with impeachment right now.
Relax
Ummm, I thought this was a given. I would have been floored if they hadn't - I think at this point one just assumes they've done every other dirty trick in the book, so why not this?
Its so sad when things get to this point.
BaScOmBe hearts Lara Logan @ 15:
None! Do I win a prize?
Listen, I live in a little red town in a very red state, surrounded by a bunch of other very red states. This way of thinking is as ingrained in these people as racism (but that's a topic for another time).
Monica Goodling (sp?) spilled the first of these beans and it's taken this long for the rest of them to spill out? Isn't she working for Fox now?
The Bush junta, we've been saying this for years. File this under No-Shit!
So now what? Impeachment? Nah! Indictments? Right! Former booshy to become a Fox News contributer? Most likely!
I can understand that there are people out there who act in ways that require laws... I can even understand how one of these punks might have connections and money enough to fool enough people to get them into office... OK... But the NUMBER ONE question we should all be asking ourselves is WHY, after all that has been uncovered so far, WHY are these cons STILL in office? This bothers me more than anything GW and that DICK (VP) of his have done.
Randy @ 18:
At this point it appears that in order to get justice and protect the citizens, we will have to impeach Pelosi, Hoyer, Rahm, and Reid first!
The Democratic leadership has stood idle while we have seen one criminal activity exposed after another. They propose a FISA compromise, which is in reality complete capitulation to the criminals in the White House and they try to put lip stick on a pig and call it victory?
Oh... another crime... and what consequence will be handed out for this? What accountability will be assigned? Who will be punished?... No one.
"The real question is whether or not Congress will do anything about it. "
that is not a real question.
Shocked I tell you, absolutely shocked
American politicians are too apathetic to even care about abuses, corruption & high crimes in their own government.
The only hope this country has is if the international community steps in & prosecutes the criminals amongst us.
What kind of example are we to the world? We've turned into the world's biggest hypocrites.
R.I.P. USA 1776-2000
pissed off patricia @ 19:
Scarborough....what a total asshat...I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire.
If you are going to break every law, it's always good to have a justice system that you hand picked. Not a bad plan if you look at it that way.
let's continue to do nothing right up until our nation falls due to failed policies
and ineffective leadership - this will be as we deserve and nothing more.
Bush_MUST_Go @ 31:
There's another way to redeem ourselves and this nation...revolt!
This is just one more straw on the camel's back. I hope like hell Obama wins, but what a mess he will have. I'm not sure anyone can bring the US back from the brink upon which we stand. When you think about all the cases against this administration, it just boggles the mind. I am beginning to think our country is full of zombies, just like hamsters in the wheel. How in hell can this be stopped.....I just don't see any answers. Congress isn't going to act, "Joe Six Pack" is too busy trying to make ends meet. We are the lone voices crying in the wilderness. I hope history will record that there were some Americans that were actively working agaisnt this tyranny, but I don't hold out much hope. As we know, history is written by the victors.
Vinny Corpuscle @ 5:
Yes, why? WHY?! Why is it all these laws are constantly being broken & they sit around & giggle about it?
BUT...Impeachment is "off the table".
So, what good is the report that basically confirms what intelligent people already knew?
This means nothing unless BushCo gets an escort to the Hague in handcuffs.
pissed off patricia @ 25:
Haha, I didn't read your post first when i posted #26. Fox is like the booshy alumni club.
pissed off patricia @ 19:
Patricia, I can't believe you torture yourself like that every morning before 9:00am. No one should be suffering Joe Scar that early in the day.
If this immunity for telecoms can't be stopped, how the hell do you think they could get enough votes to impeach the freakin' president? His power over them is frightening.
Illegally hiring their own partisan hacks, and this surprises who?
Can we impeach them now?
liberalDAPofDESTINYmoderation @ 32:
But would you piss on him if he were drowning?
Assassin @ 43:
Maybe, lol!
pissed off patricia @ 41:
What does this administration have on congresscritters? Was it the anthrax scare, is it Daddy Bush's CIA inside info on them........just what the hell is it. We know people are writting and calling in record numbers to congress, yet they do nothing in the face of overhwhelming public support.....just what the hell is going on?
Assassin @ 43:
Well, seeing as I can't really swim, if I were in a boat, and saw him flailing about in an open sea, I'd probably would. If I were to save him, I'd make him tell what he knows about that dead staffer in his congressional office, first.
lipstickhottie @ 36:
Except in the case of the Civil War, where for over 100 years we've been brow-beaten to think the south was fighting for a "noble" cause, the war was about states' rights, not slavery, and that the southern soldiers were braver and stronger than those idiots from the north. Oh, and the confederate flag is about "heritage, not hate."
Puh-LEEZ!!
Assassin @ 43:
I would. If it would shut him up and stop Mika from her teeheeheehee laughing every five seconds.
I'll be right here counting the minutes 'til someone actually gets arraigned for this.
Ya need me, I'll be the old guy in the corner with the inch-thick layer of cobwebs.
(snnnnnnzzzzzzxxxxxxxxx)
lipstickhottie @ 45:
I think it's a combination of what you mentioned, and other things we have no idea about.
I think we've been in the midst of a fascist takeover for just under 8 years now. And apparently...most politicians in office during this time are either complicit due to inaction or directly involved....BUT...I could be wrong...
Forge @ 49:
No, don't go to sleep. You'll miss all the fun of watching nothing happen.
pissed off patricia @ 48:
Yes, I can't decide which is worse, Joe The Murderer's grin or Mika's schoolgirl giggle...her dad must be so proud
"The real question is whether or not Congress will do anything about it."
If only all life's questions were this easy to answer.
As an attorney who interned for the Justice Dept when in Law School I gotta say how much this disappoints me. When I worked there in '02 the effects of the Administrations politicization of the department already became evident, and the people they hired were some of the most unpleasant people to work for: vulgar, offensive, rude, antagonizing, and prone to frequent temper tantrums. Worst part was that they were usually in positions of power so there was nothing you could do about them.
When I was offered a job there shortly after law school I declined (even though I was desperate for a job) because I knew I wouldn't have lasted long there.
lets follow the chain of command up to the WH, and impeach now.
Hah! Democrats are weak-kneed pusillanimous gits. They would rather wink at wrong-doing than get their hair mussed up with impeachment. They don't seem to realize that they've been in the majority for a year a half. The 2006 elections should have taught them that Americans want reform, not capitulation to criminality.
Democrats disgust me almost as much as Republicans.
Assassin @ 43:
Joe Scar can never drown.
Shit floats.
I thought this had been well known for a while now. At least since the Gonzo hearings. All those new hires from Liberty U. and all that. But good to see it's being brought up again. Maybe one day some one will actually be held accountable?
displaced @ 54:
Wow...good for you! This country could use more people with integrity and honor.
Will this be a big, stinking scandal in the media like the Clinton Travel-gate affair? If not, why not? This is about systemic corruption of a critical department of the US government.
Maybe this fiasco needs a name? Justice-gate? The Loyal Bushie War on Justice? Crony-gate? The Regent Screw-job? The Enemies of Progress?
nerac @ 2:
It's a result of never holding the Republicans criminal conspiracy accountable. It goes back to Watergate and has merely played forward. It's time for trials, and if convicted long prison terms.
Charles Wilton @ 56:
Hehehehee...gits....
I agree with most of your statement..however...even though the these weak-kneed dems had the majority...it was very slim....and they had to deal with an obstructionist GOP opposition...it's lose lose...
nerac @ 2:
Upholding the oath of office to the American people and the Constitution comes before superimposed transient party politics.
liberalDAPofDESTINYmoderation @ 62:
That's why it's so important that us real dem focus not just on the presidential spot, but every open office right down to dogcatcher.......we need an overwhelming majority in every office.......you know that was the stategy of the religious right back in the 80s....it worked for them, we need to try it
If impeachment were to happen, it would become known just how compliant the Congress was. They don't want the American public they rolled over and did nothing. Bush couldn't have done this without them. If he is impeached, so are they because the evidence will point to them as well. They are covering each others butts.
You know, this is like reading a book that you believe to be fiction and then discovering at the end that the story is true. All the horrible things you read about in the book really happened and you find yourself in a moment of shock and sadness. These last seven and a half years should have been events in some sort of morbid fictional book, but instead they are all true and they really happened. We lived them in our life. We've witnessed some of the most vile times in recent history in the US.
All so that they could set up caging lists.
Technique of voter suppression.
Control the courts you control the votes - we saw that in 2000.
And since the Dems will do NOTHING about it . . . so what?
From CHINATOWN (1974):
Jake Gittes: Evelyn, put that gun away. Let the police handle this.
Evelyn Mulwray: He OWNS the police!
Same thing, except this ain't a movie.
The real question is whether or not Congress will do anything about it.
Here's a stick.
There's a dead horse.
Have at it.
lipstickhottie @ 45:
ok @ 60:
How about "The Anal Rape of America, 2000 - 2008"?
How many people in this country can commit a crime right in front of the police without at least being charged? Pelosi, you're the police. At least put some papers on somebody in this administration.
liberalDAPofDESTINYmoderation @ 59:
Wellllll, I wouldn't say that... I just realized that it would ruin my resume. I am an attorney after all, gotta be selfish somehow. :-p
Just add it to the list and move on. Carlin said it, (paraphrased) "Power does what it wants". Couldn't the Senate get a least a few underlings and offer future protection from prosecution (i.e. after 01/09) for testimony today? Aw, they'd screw that up too. These Bush supporters are simply fanatic. Would do anything to come near the touch of power. You know them, they were the student government geeks in high school that we all ignored because they couldn't stop us from doing what we wanted to on week-ends, we didn't care about school and them. School officials used them. We thought they couldn't hurt us but here they are! Now with some real import... We should have beat them down then. Lets beat them down now. If we can't get Bush, and I really doubt there will ever be anything remotely near justice for Bush (beyond the many history books that will be written), BUT WE CAN GET HIS MINIONS! Prosecute all the flying monkeys! Regardless of how long it takes, they were willing participants in the taking over of America.
pissed off patricia @ 66:
Every time some poor misinformed fool trolls at this site declaring "Democrat, Republican, there's no difference" I want to hit something. Bush will be a warning poster for voters to stay away from the Republican Party for years to come.
What becomes of all the cases that these fucks preside over? doesn't that invalidate the rulings?
I think this administration is trying to set an example of how many impeachable offenses can be committed by a president while congress fiddles.
It's the best example available of how rotted and corrupt Washington really is. It really is a good old boys club and as long as you are one of the boys you can get away with anything.
lipstickhottie @ 64:
Indeed...but the dems..at least as far as I'm concerened...need to redeem themselves...they need to get to work and bring this country back from the brink of disaster...if they bicker and quibble over bullshit...they will lose me...I'll go third party...and no I'm not talking about this election...it's far too important...we have to get a dem in the whitehouse...
displaced @ 74:
HA...too funny...well at least your honest, lol!
Another example of the Bush junta breaking the law and the Congress will do nothing about it. Reid, Pelosi, Hoyer, etc. are happy with being neocon enablers.
first you put a few FUCKING LIBERALS into the justice system.... THEN what do you get.... FREE THINKING SONS-OF-BITCHES might question WHY we do something... or IF IT IS really legal..... and WHAT DOES THAT GET US....
when i say "get 'er done" i dont want some pinko elite educated literate son-o-my-bitch speaking up other than to ask "how high"
the most amazing thing as i see it is that every time a report shows a reason to impeach these crooks, the dems look weaker and weaker.
NANCY and HARRY must go.
You want THIS Congress to do something about it? Not likely!
"...I’m pretty sure an entire impeachment case could be built upon this." that and without exaggeration, a hundred other infractions or breaches of the constitution. I've come to the conclusion that for whatever reason impeachment just ain't gonna happen. if you don't believe me, just ask Nancy.
The US's slide toward an old-style, European autocracy just took another giant leap. Ain't history grand? And the next step is the establishment of a corporatist (read "special interest groups"), fascist government a la Mussolini. Conformism, fear, the work ethic, nationalism/jingoism and a bullshit flag waving, anthem-singing, hand-on-the-heart maudlin take on all matters political. All of this with a true citizen-based democracy under its boot heel. Athens, Corsica, France, the US -- gone is the dream.
Impeachment? Do something about this? Uh huh. Just like Congress is doing something about FISA. What dreamworld are you living?
there's no way, absent a purge of everyone with Regency or Liberty U credentials, that the US DoJ will EVER function for the PEOPLE again...
And probably Civil Service covers 'em, even if they were illicitly hired.
SO don't look the the US DoJ to do the right thing, not for the next 30 years or so...
Why hasn't MoveOn or someone started a petition or something against Pelosi's ridiculous obstructionism against impeachment? Or have they and I missed it?
Pelosi and Reid have to be made examples of somehow. This is ridiculous that this administration can get away with these blatant perversions and Pelosi and Reid are still in the "let's reach across the aisle and find compromise." mode. Who are these people? What planet are they from?
There are so many unknowns in our government today. I heard a discussion the other night on radio about all the secrecy about UFOs and why the public is never informed about things that have happened over the years. Even the POTUS are kept in the dark about this popular subject. Whether or not you believe in UFOs makes no difference. It is the secrecy in the government agencies that we should be afraid of. The question came up about the POTUS being able to find out anything about UFOs and it was said that NO ONE but the secret agencies (of the government's making) will ever know what is going on. They think Bush#1 probably knows as he was head of CIA but no other president has ever been told anything. So how much else is being kept secret, by whom, and for what reasons? This country is very scary when you think about it. A lot of people think they know what is going on but if they talk about it they don't know anything. The ones who do know don't talk about it. So I agree that there is definitely something going on that makes the Democrats act the way they do.
Left&Left @ 76:
Every time I read some Democratic shill say that everything wrong with America is because of the Republicans, especially on this site, coupled with an insult to anyone who even raises the issue of the whole system being rotten, I want to puke.
The Dems completely betray the people who put them into power in 2006, buckle and give Bush every last dime he asks for for his illegal wars, advance legislation like the Homegrown Terrorist Act and the Telecom Immunity legislation that evicerates the 4th Amendment, and yet idiots like the above writer who doesn't get that there are no differences between the Democrats or the Republicans still keep bleating the Democratic party line like the sheep they are. Which virtually assures America is dead as a country. With a population this stupid and docile, it is far too late to turn things around.
At the root of all this is a deep arrogance of the American public which leads them to support things like torture. But eventually the bill comes due.
Go watch George Carlin's (RIP) fantastic bit about the real owners of America. It sums it up very nicely.
Left&Left @ 76:
Sirrah, they are indistinguishable in terms of the agendas they pursue. GOPuke or DIM, the parties strive to install more surveillance, more corporatism, more authoritarianism, fewer rights, less regulation, and less accountability at home, and more militarism, more opportunism, more globalism abroad.
To the extent that the PARTIES differ, and it is in fact insignificantly, they differ on the means appropriate to achieve those ends. The Dims bribe the people, the PUKES threaten...See any differences?
Me neither...
David @ 91:
Please produce the Democratic equivalent of Bush, Cheney, Rove.
willie @ 83:
Amen!!
I've been saying this about those two ever since they began thier current positions in congress!
woody, tokin librul @ 92:
It is insulting to suggest that the parties are the same. That type of senseless apathy helped to deliver Bush to us again in 2004. Sure, we have some terrible Democratic leaders(Pelosi, Reid, etc.) but it doesn't get worse than this. And as a black man, I SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PARTIES!
Big f*ckin' deal! Who's gonna hold them accountable? Certainly not the Justice Department and certainly not Congress, which can't even enforce its own contempt policies! I'm still waiting for the Sergeant-at-Arms to go arrest Karl Rove....riiiiiiight!!!
Well, thank GOD impeachment is off the table! Can you IMAGINE if we were wasting our time with a lefty, pointless stunt like THAT? See, because caucus caucus caucus....
Impeach please, before we bomb Iran...
Bush's Department Of Just Us?
Maybe we could BEG the EU to prosecute them FOR us cause Pelosi Bush Reid Hoyer Cheney are licking one another in a writhing ball (ever see slugs fuck?) of mutuality in the full light of midday. (I hear Pelosi's tongue is a surprising 8-inches long).
Instead of begging them for the jangling keyring by which we are being held hostage,
let's appeal to every country but ours to liberate us, then we might have a chance.
crazytown @ 100:
Why do you think the US, under Bushco, refused to sign onto membership in the World Court? These criminals will never face justice.
Dear Left&Left,
"It is insulting to suggest that the parties are the same. That type of senseless apathy helped to deliver Bush to us again in 2004. Sure, we have some terrible Democratic leaders(Pelosi, Reid, etc.) but it doesn’t get worse than this. And as a black man, I SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PARTIES!"
Boo Hoo Hoo!! So I guess because you are a black person, your opinion of politicians is more finely honed than mine, a white man. AND YOU SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES, DO YOU? (I guess that settles it, then.)
Well, what many people have tried countless times to point out here and in many other places is that both "major" political parties seem to be working from the same playbook but using the Hegelian Dialectic process to instill within you and all other Americans THE ILLUSION OF CHOICE. And you being an arrogant American with an "I already know everything attitude" so prevelant in our culture today get "insulted" because people have attitudes that differ from yours. You even have a handy catch word to describe such people: trolls. (Makes it easier to kill them later, I suppose, by dehumanizing them.) So even when Democrats take positions that seem incredibly humiliating -- like giving money to Bush for the wars Dems were elected to end -- and other policies completely counter to the interests of average Americans, you just blame the Republicans and insist that everything is their fault, and go back to sleep.
Bush, Rove, Cheney, Pelosi, Dodd -- who now wants to track all our purchases -- Reid all share one trait: as "leaders" they are incredibly bad for the average American. And Bush could not have gotten away with as much as he has if the Dems hadn't bent as much as they have.
Electing a Democrat to the White House will make no difference until the people of this country wake up to the fraud going on all around them. Everyday. By almost all politicians in Washington today. On both sides of the aisle.
Sadly, most Americans, yourself included, are so deeply asleep that you get mad at people like me for trying to wake you up instead of at the politicians who are literally raping America. You are waiting for someone to save you instead of recognizing the truth and doing something about it. (No, electing Obama to the White House is not doing anything about it. That is still playing into the illusion. Pushing your narrow little intellectual limits and exploring ideas that you find uncomfortable might be a good first step.)
And sadly, in reference to your blackness perspective, I ask you to consider the idea that America today is the ultimate slave culture because most people in America support their enslavement in one form or another and violently deny they are slaves, that they are free. So the powers that be don't need as many chains anymore, just in a few places like Gitmo.
Wake up, my friend, before it really and truly is too late. It is you who is showing the apathy by allowing your mind to be spoonfed.
Left&Left @ 95:
But that's why god invented Bluedog democrats. In my state alone (CO) 5 out of 6 voted for FISA. That would also cover Udall's successful transition to foul up the senate and the lovely Salazar brothers, each one farting contentedly into their oh-so-satisfied seats in each of the houses.
PS. -- Bush won in 2004 because he stole Ohio, just as he stole Florida in 2000. It had nothing to do with apathy.
Dr. Acula @ 101:
Well yes. They do imagine they've got that covered, at least until another president signs us back on.
Until Pelosi is impeached and removed from office for hercriminal complicity and obstruction of justice/Congess, and until Steny Hoyet is booted out of the majority leader slot and pushed off to the side where he can do no more harm, nothing of substance is going t happen.
David @ 104:
Nothing to do with apathy? Yeah right. Apathy is one of the reasons the elections in 2000 and 2004 were close enough in order to be stolen.
David @ 104:
PS. — Bush won in 2004 because he stole Ohio, just as he stole Florida in 2000. It had nothing to do with apathy.
Nothing to do with apathy? Yeah right. Apathy is one of the reasons the elections in 2000 and 2004 were close enough in order to be stolen.
You are right, of course. In 2004, John Kerry couldn't conceed the election fast enough, despite the fact that there was lots of evidence of voter fraud.
Great comeback. I stand in awe of your intellectual prowess.
Left&Left @ 107:
Bless us father, we have sinned by ommission as voting machines remain irrationally unrequired to issue receipts and millions of voters unmysteriously are publicly punched in the face.
crazytown @ 109:
Ain't democracy a beautiful thing?
John Kerry always looks like he was a bad bad boy right out of a backroom spanking.
Such...an asshole.
I remember the final debate of the democrats and thought to myself, "anyone but him, dear god, anyone but him". Voila!
David @ 102:
I only mention the fact that as a black person I see a tremendous difference in the honest representation(check out the founding fathers) within the two parties. You can't deny that the Republican party is particularly unfriendly to many of us non-whites. I never use my race as a crutch(like you foolishly insinuated). You wake up. There is no right or wrong, we see the political landscape differently. Just don't try to impose your "only from my white eyes" bullshit on me.
Republicans are the very definition of partisan. Loyal only to each other and the heck with the country. Their policies are based solely on getting themselves elected. Newt Gangreenitch expanded pork (no pun intended) spending to never-bofore-seen astronomical levels, only to help re-elect Republicans to Congress.
This helps explain the endless string of incompetent bafoons appointed by Bush to key government positions. Every civilain working in Iraq is a loyal GOP hack. They really are like the mafia, only more dangerous.
America can never become the great country she once was until this criminal empire is purged from our Legislative system.
A clean sweep by Dems in November is the only remedy for this virus that has infected America since the Nixon era.
Paul @ 106:
I think Hoyer is out by 2010. Can't say how or why. I just know it.
Corruption!
Since the criteria for being hired by the Justice Department was reduced to a proven admiration of all things Bushie what did anyone expect ? If you fish in the shallow end of the gene pool you have to expect to catch nothing but three-eyed carp.
David @ 108:
Your typical, fake superior, condescending attitude overwhelms me also.
"The real question is whether or not Congress will do anything about it."
Short answer: No.
That's because Pelosi and others like her don't wanna be "confrontational" (or whatever bad word they care to use in place of "strong"), and because of a fear that the U.S. public won't understand what all the fuss is about.
Bush's first act was to seal his daddy's records. This is a secret government. I dont believe we have a clue just how bad these guys are as result and are not likely ever to find out.
At the very least answer just one question ... what is the political effect of funneling trillions (yes with a T) of dollars over eight years to croneys and the faithful? Are you or your little organization that well funded?
Read this story this morning... At this point, I just shake my head. Here's the reality people... As more and more dirt about the Bush administrations illegal manipulations come to light, (and it will continue), it becomes more and more important and even geostrategically relevant that the current leaders we have put in place do something significant, something real to hold these Bushco synchopants responsible and accountable for what they have done... It's either do that or we're ultimately finished as a nation with any credibility to effect the larger world in any significant manner morally, economically or in any other way.
We either make them pay for these crimes which everyone in the world is aware of, or noones going to ever listen to anything the United States has to say about any subject even when we have a good idea.... And the refrain will be the same regardless of subject...i.e. "Why should we listen to you Americans, you can't even keep your own house clean"...... Mark those words. We let Bush and his cadre walk, we'll be hearing a lot of that in the coming decades... And all the guns and all the nukes and all the p.r. blitzes or international sabar rattling or pouting in the world won't change this coming reality.... There is only one way to avoid this and get our nation back... WE ALL know what that is...Nancy? Get a clue woman.....................JD
Oh no, the Bush Justice Dept. broke the law? What to do, what to do?
OK, hello Congress, I'm waiting for an answer. Any...answer.
Why are you so quiet, they broke the law. Its not like they've ever done this before and you don't know what to do. Here's a thought, DO SOMETHING!!!
Condemn them, praise them, give them milk and cookies, don't care, do SOMETHING, ANYTHING!!!
Anything is better than the apathy shown to this criminal administration.
And as a black man, I SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PARTIES!”
which is significant of probably only one thing: How successful the white man's propaganda efforts, everywhere, in everything, since BEFORE you (and I) were borne, has been, is, and will inexorably continue to be.
You don't hafta try to control what a person thinks if you can control what that person things ABOUT.
A criminal empire like this could not be so cavalier if they did not have the "goods" on their adverseries, the Dems.
hence, Nancy Pelosi just shuts the eff up.
Left&Left @ 112:
Like another writer pointed out here, one party bribes and flatters (Democrats) and the other party threatens (Republicans) and you equate bribery and flattery with honesty.
Sad. Pathetic even. You will have to see this country completely collapse before you get it, I am sure.
And I disagree with you, there is a right and wrong that we all know deeply in our hearts. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are wrong. War in Iran would be wrong. Warrentless spying and torture is wrong. But too often, in order to belong to the herd we shut down our hearts to that truth. And eventually we all pay a price for that.
By the way, Obama's top advisor today stated that warrentless wiretapping is OK with him. Ya, right, Obama equals change.
BTW, this isn't a black/white issue, but if you are going to insult people who disagree with you and then state your race as a way to support your points, be man enough to be called on it.
We can only hope CA gets serious and gets rid of Pelosi. On 6-3 this facially benumbed creature took 89% of the primary vote in SF. HOw hopeful is that.
Then we have Cindy Sheehan the undisciplined with her sea-of-pink damaging her own noble cause and giving Pelosi the challenge of the equivalent of being hit with an ostrich feather and achieving great longevity to drown the constitution at her leisure.
Where is the serious challenger with the weight and substance to take down Pelosi in a slam of disgrace which is what she so richly deserves. That MUST happen. California?
Where are thou?
@ 120 Jack Damage Says: Truths...
but it ain't gonna happen. Cuz all these folks hope someday to wield ultimate power, and if they brind down one who now wields that power, their own tenure must of needs be insecure.
on jan 20, one of two things will happen with regard to the predations of the Bush crime family. either, President McCain will simply continue the Bush songs--the very policies and practices of his predecessors--and award them assorted medals, etc.
or, President Obama will inaugurate the a resounding chorus of that old coopted hymn: "We Must Look Ahead. We Must Bind The Wounds. We Have No Time For Recriminations. Et Cetera..."
The bells of DC will toll only one of those songs...
NO WAY !!! You cannot be serious ?!?!?!?
In other news....the sky is blue. More on that after this commercial break.
anon @ 119:
Needed to be repeated...
The Political Junkie @ 46:
And then toss him the anchor.
Gotugye @ 61:
I agree with trials, but shouldn't the convictions wait until after Bush is out of office? That slimy SOB will just pardon the whole kit and kaboodle.
David @ 124:
OK...Time for me to throw my hat in the ring...the two parties are indeed corrupt. But CLEARLY, the GOP is, lately anyway, far more corrupt by several orders of magnitude.
And while the Dems have had their share of scandals and criminal activity...they just can't hold a candle to the GOP in that regard. And it seems to this southern white man that the Dems are seemingly chock full of people wanting to do right for their country, and their fellow citizens...I can't say the same for the GOP...can anyone?
And the very fact that a black man has been nominated fills me with hope, that maybe this country isn't as backward as I thought...that all hope isn't lost, that this country may just yet turn the corner to a new era of prosperity, equality and justice like never before seen in this country, maybe even the world.
And that folks, has me cautiously optimistic. Damn near happy even.
Left&Left @ 76:
You're right, the Repukes are corrupt, perverted, and evil, the Dems are just corrupt. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm going third party early and often. How about the Green party?
The K Street Project was the blueprint for the entire Bush administration.
solid @ 130:
Well even if the trials started right now, there won't be any verdicts for a long damn time. Unless said trials take place at the Hague...
solid @ 132:
Definitely no until after this election...I'm giving the dems a chance to do somethin right...if not, then I'll definitely go third party...but again...this elections too important to risk putting another republican warmonger in office.
David @ 124:
liberalDAPofJUSTICEmoderation @ 135:
Oh, I'm definitely voting for Obama even though he doesn't appear to be the change candidate that's on the ad brochures, but I will punish every Congress critter, State Rep, county clerk, dog catcher incumbent with a vote for a third party candidate or a write-in. Probably won't do a damn bit of good but as a wise person once said "Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is insanity". I'm through with the insanity.
solid @ 137:
I hear ya...far too much insanity in this country lately, lol!
solid @ 132:
Yes. Dilute the process with a third party to queer every single race back into the hands of the cabal who would like nothing more than extra help to stay in power. Don't look down, there's a giant windy vast canyon of emptiness to swallow the concept of an operative 3rd party effort as things stand.
Power back to the states themselves is the only remedy for the overwhelming mountain of rubbish that passes for government in DC.
liberalDAPofJUSTICEmoderation @ 138:
Just a thought...don't punish them all...if the incumbent is doing a good job, maybe ya shouldn't just arbitrarily vote them out...
crazytown @ 139:
Good luck with that states' power thing, has as much chance as my third party surge. But, you know what? I don't care. I'm tired of voting for spineless crooks who won't do a damn thing about the evil fucks in D.C. Like I said, I'll be voting for Obama, mainly because he might have the chance to appoint up to three S.C. justices, but I'll be getting VERY creative with the rest of my ballot.
Groups with bonafides are planning war crimes trials ...
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20118.htm
... maybe publicity will keep they 'safe'.
Left&Left @ 136:
liberalDAPofDESTINYmoderation @ 35:
"Bringing Down a Dictatorship"
Left&Left @ 143:
Pawn @ 144:
I must purchase and read that book!
Bush_MUST_Go @ 31:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20118.htm
Groups with bona fides are planning war crimes trials
David @ 145:
anon @ 147:
Dr. Acula @ 149:
Hopefully, Blackwater won't interrupt.
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