The problem here is that the McCain campaign was denied a visit to a military base under the same policy back in April. Of course, there was no outcry or false outrage from Brian Rogers at that time.

From CNN:

With Department of Defense rules prohibiting political campaigning on military bases, it was determined that in some cases McCain could visit the installations as a senator but could not engage in any political activity or have news media present.
McCain campaign officials said Thursday they intentionally did not campaign on military property.

"We follow the rules," said senior McCain adviser Steve Schmidt.

Because all three presidential candidates are sitting senators, DoD officials have privately noted for some weeks that the whole matter of drawing the line between Senate business and campaigning is sensitive.

A U.S. Army official told CNN there are no pending requests from any of the campaigns to visit Army bases at this time. He noted that Sen. Barack Obama recently visited Fayetteville, North Carolina, but did not go to Fort Bragg; and Sen. Hillary Clinton visited Killeen, Texas, but did not go to Fort Hood.

For his Wednesday visit to the U.S. Naval Academy -- of which he is a graduate -- McCain was allowed to make a political appearance at the academy's football stadium because it is privately owned property and is not owned or run by the U.S. military.

Earlier in the day, when McCain had breakfast with midshipmen on academy grounds, it was closed to the press and considered a private event.

The military spokesman points out that any U.S. senator could also request to visit the academy or any military installation.

But the Navy declined a McCain campaign request to speak at the Naval Aviation Museum at the naval base in Pensacola, Florida, because it is a military owned installation and is located on the base, the official said.

McCain did attend an airshow over the weekend at the Navy base in Meridian, Mississippi, because it was open to the general public. But he declined to answer political questions from reporters traveling with him.

What? Andrea defending Obama? Did she grow a conscience or what?

Well, I am certainly surprised that it is this particular journalist that is speaking out. Perhaps following Obama on this trip, away from the Washington cocktail party circuit, has given her a new perspective on the importance of telling the truth. Maybe she is seeing American politics in the way the rest of the world sees it. I can dream can't I?

I am fucking shocked. Mitchell defending Obama? No more of the Pity Potty Brigade about how "remarkable" McCranky is?

NY Times Editorial - Low-Road Express

Published: July 30, 2008

Well, that certainly didn’t take long. On July 3, news reports said Senator John McCain, worried that he might lose the election before it truly started, opened his doors to disciples of Karl Rove from the 2004 campaign and the Bush White House. Less than a month later, the results are on full display. The candidate who started out talking about high-minded, civil debate has wholeheartedly adopted Mr. Rove’s low-minded and uncivil playbook.
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Mr. McCain used to pride himself on being above this ugly brand of politics, which killed his own 2000 presidential bid. But he clearly tossed his inhibitions aside earlier this month when he put day-to-day management of his campaign in the hands of one acolyte of Mr. Rove and gave top positions to two others. The résumés of the new team’s members included stints in Mr. Bush’s White House and in his 2004 re-election campaign, one of the most negative and divisive in memory.

Almost immediately, the McCain campaign was using Mr. Rove’s well-honed tactics, starting with an attempt to widen this nation’s damaging ideological divide by painting Mr. Obama as a far-left kook.
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Many voters are wondering whether a McCain presidency would be an extension of Mr. Bush’s two disastrous terms. If the way Mr. McCain is running his campaign these days is an indication, Americans don’t have to wait until next January for the answer to that one.

L.A. Confidential @ 4:

Obamas bought and paid for.

not paid for yet! he hasnt delivered that pipeline in afganistan yet but hes working on it, and the botts will approve

This has nothing to do with the truth, it's all about positioning. It's time to take sides with the winner or go down with the ship.

McCain's transparent desperation only demonstrates that his team knows that the "official" poll numbers are garbage.

The Theory of Relativity, 2008: Mc=W*2

interesting since andrea was what seemed to me very critical of obama the two-three weeks prior to this trip. she said it herself and i believe.. the pentagon via the white house made a big deal out of this visit to the hospital. that or they made it somewhat confusing. obama was going to visit with a retired general who is also a consultant...that's not allowed. he wasn't going to bring cameras/journalist.......mccain has taken this to a dirty level.

MountainMan23 @ 9:

NY Times Editorial - Low-Road Express

Published: July 30, 2008

Well, that certainly didn’t take long. On July 3, news reports said Senator John McCain, worried that he might lose the election before it truly started, opened his doors to disciples of Karl Rove from the 2004 campaign and the Bush White House. Less than a month later, the results are on full display. The candidate who started out talking about high-minded, civil debate has wholeheartedly adopted Mr. Rove’s low-minded and uncivil playbook.
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Mr. McCain used to pride himself on being above this ugly brand of politics, which killed his own 2000 presidential bid. But he clearly tossed his inhibitions aside earlier this month when he put day-to-day management of his campaign in the hands of one acolyte of Mr. Rove and gave top positions to two others. The résumés of the new team’s members included stints in Mr. Bush’s White House and in his 2004 re-election campaign, one of the most negative and divisive in memory.

Almost immediately, the McCain campaign was using Mr. Rove’s well-honed tactics, starting with an attempt to widen this nation’s damaging ideological divide by painting Mr. Obama as a far-left kook.
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Many voters are wondering whether a McCain presidency would be an extension of Mr. Bush’s two disastrous terms. If the way Mr. McCain is running his campaign these days is an indication, Americans don’t have to wait until next January for the answer to that one.

Very nice. It's about time someone in the MSM raise the issue!!

L.A. Confidential @ 4:

Obamas bought and paid for.

here's a newsflash for you; they're ALL bought and paid for.

grow up.

Left&Left @ 18:

swampfox @ 11:

L.A. Confidential @ 4:

Obamas bought and paid for.

not paid for yet! he hasnt delivered that pipeline in afganistan yet but hes working on it, and the botts will approve

Two honorary McGeezer supporters dripping with paranoia and bitterness regularly coming here just to urinate on the truth.

dont flatter yourself that your oppinions any better then anyone elses if nothin you are consistent obama rules yay!

The big irony here is this:

McCain consistently attacks Obama for being a pop star and for having little substance.

How does he do this?

By running the most vacant, tabloid-style attack ads I've ever seen. By trafficking in the cheapest, hollow, and poppy smears he can think of.

Give us a few more of these ads, and people are going to wonder... Who is John McCain? Does he have any character? Is he devoid of substance? Does he have any real ideas? Or is he just a sensationalist tabloid perv?

I love these ads. They are going to be McCain's undoing!

Just remember:

1) Counter every smear. If the TVs on at the bar. If you get an email forward. If you hear people repeating it in conversation. Counter it.

2) Always start with the positive flipside of the smear. Share good information first.

3) Then, quickly and accurately, call the smear out for what it is. (Is it a lie? A deception? An innuendo?)

4) And then ask what McCain has to offer that's better.

But never be complacent. We have to win this election.

Andrea got busted and is now looking to keep her job. Look for years Andrea, David and Chris have been the White House cheerleaders and even spreading the Bush/Cheney Propaganda. Look Andrea helped the White House lie about WMDs even refusing to testify at Libby's trial, why? Because she would have been fired by NBC. David Gregory and Chris Matthews openly lied about Democrats while covering up and supporting the GOP Crime Team. David fell all over Karl Rove and Chris Matthews loved the GOP so much he campaigned for them in hopes the GOP could continue to control the Branches of Govenment. Chris expressed his love for George W. Bush so much I though he had left his wife for GW. Cheney openly lied and Andrea, David and Chris defended him. Now with change coming these three White House insiders will be White House outsiders in 2009. Most of the NBC viewers have emailed the Executives and said as much about the GOP Three White House cheerleaders.

swampfox @ 21:

Left&Left @ 18:

swampfox @ 11:

L.A. Confidential @ 4:
not paid for yet! he hasnt delivered that pipeline in afganistan yet but hes working on it, and the botts will approve

Two honorary McGeezer supporters dripping with paranoia and bitterness regularly coming here just to urinate on the truth.

dont flatter yourself that your oppinions any better then anyone elses if nothin you are consistent obama rules yay!

You can't blame Obama for the gas/oil pipeline deal in Afghanistan. He hasn't even been elected yet. (Neither has Bush, for that matter, but I think you get my point).

Boy, if you didn't listen to her speak, you'd never get a clue as to what she was saying from that literal transcript...wow...get a sentence out, baby.

Ruthless People @ 26:

The latest McSame ad which can be seen over at kos mocks Obama's popularity.

Yea, cause it's much better to have a president who's hated and despised both and home and abroad like the one McSame promises to emulate.

this is why i don't like the "rock star" label i knew they would belittle him. they're trying to continue this framing of liberal,fad and inexperienced.....i personally felt obama himself could have spoken up about being called a "rock star" by someone like tom brokaw....i am not saying for obama to make a bid deal out of it but in his subtle way denounce it.

L.A. Confidential @ 4:

Obamas bought and paid for.

It's just too bad Hillary lost. She's above being bought and paid for.

swampfox @ 21:

Left&Left @ 18:

swampfox @ 11:

L.A. Confidential @ 4:
not paid for yet! he hasnt delivered that pipeline in afganistan yet but hes working on it, and the botts will approve

Two honorary McGeezer supporters dripping with paranoia and bitterness regularly coming here just to urinate on the truth.

dont flatter yourself that your oppinions any better then anyone elses if nothin you are consistent obama rules yay!

Look, I am someone who is going to find Obama to be too hawkish, too religious, and too nationalistic when he is president. I am certain I will be protesting many of his policies. But until November 5th, my opinion will be Obama Yay. In fact, I just sent him my second large (for me) donation. The truth is, a person who thought exactly like I do could never be elected, so, I'll take what I can get.

"because Mrs. Alan Greenspan actually defended Barack"

well, obama does have volcker as one of his econ advisors, does he not? i'm not surprised.

swampfox @ 36:

BigT @ 27:

swampfox @ 21:

Left&Left @ 18: dont flatter yourself that your oppinions any better then anyone elses if nothin you are consistent obama rules yay!

You can't blame Obama for the gas/oil pipeline deal in Afghanistan. He hasn't even been elected yet. (Neither has Bush, for that matter, but I think you get my point).

yeah i get your point , now heres mine ! the oil pipelines bushes project , the afgan wars bushes project , obama calls for more war if hes elected to acheive bushes goul that being secure the pipeline if you get my point we dont need more war or that pipeline!

caspian basin pipeline already in the making. obama has little to absolutely nothing to do with it. agreements have already been had on a u.s. presence in afghanistan. an all out war would call for 200-300k troops it's not going to happen. there going to show the taliban/al queda they're serious and deals will be made. it's very complicated and probably base on resources. india in ten yrs. will need close to twice the energy it currnetly uses. the u.s is trying to control this area before someone else does

Sounds like a Quid pro Quo to me. Andrea's hubby ( I like sitting in the bath tub all day ) Alan Greenspan has been getting hammered for his outrageuos financial policies and loose lending standards let alone not much in the way of oversight with banking regulators. Sending out the old girl to cover for Obama is probably the least he could get her to do as an act of contrition. It's all smoke and mirros folks. That's all it is.
Hopefully the fun will begin when and if Obama takes McShit to task over a number of his blunders when they begin debating one on one in the fall.

Miatch @ 35:

swampfox @ 21:

Left&Left @ 18:

swampfox @ 11:
Two honorary McGeezer supporters dripping with paranoia and bitterness regularly coming here just to urinate on the truth.

dont flatter yourself that your oppinions any better then anyone elses if nothin you are consistent obama rules yay!

Look, I am someone who is going to find Obama to be too hawkish, too religious, and too nationalistic when he is president. I am certain I will be protesting many of his policies. But until November 5th, my opinion will be Obama Yay. In fact, I just sent him my second large (for me) donation. The truth is, a person who thought exactly like I do could never be elected, so, I'll take what I can get.

boy, there's a headscratcher

i have said this a bajillion times now: even if you support obama you still need to make yourself heard. the right/msm/corporate world is not going to go quietly into the night, and their pressure will continue to move obama to the right. the left/liberals/progressives are silent at their own demise.

the last thing obama needs is more cheerleaders, yes-men and sycophants--they make for weak candidates. i strongly believe that by moving to the right--due to the cave in by the left--obama has made himself more vunerable, stepped on his own message, and hurts his chances in the fall.

constituent @ 39:

swampfox @ 36:

BigT @ 27:

swampfox @ 21:

You can't blame Obama for the gas/oil pipeline deal in Afghanistan. He hasn't even been elected yet. (Neither has Bush, for that matter, but I think you get my point).

yeah i get your point , now heres mine ! the oil pipelines bushes project , the afgan wars bushes project , obama calls for more war if hes elected to acheive bushes goul that being secure the pipeline if you get my point we dont need more war or that pipeline!

caspian basin pipeline already in the making. obama has little to absolutely nothing to do with it. agreements have already been had on a u.s. presence in afghanistan. an all out war would call for 200-300k troops it's not going to happen. there going to show the taliban/al queda they're serious and deals will be made. it's very complicated and probably base on resources. india in ten yrs. will need close to twice the energy it currnetly uses. the u.s is trying to control this area before someone else does

yeah you keep telling me we have to go kill afgans to honor george bushes corporation agreements , complicateds got nothing to do with it, in ten yrs india will own america im not interested in what or who controls india im interested in whos dieing for bushes interests!

Andrea must be off her "meds" again.

Court Jester @ 40:

I think Mrs. Greenspan is just quicker to smell the coffee than many of the others, perhaps due to an awareness of her rapidly waning relevance.

She was clearer in some explaining some of the details than Hagel was; then again Hagel explained the disintinction between the CODEL that ended in Jordan, and the political trip that started after Jordan, which is a key point in the issue with the Pentagon.

I've tried to track down references for the alleged McCain visit to the same hospital in April that people have claimed was cancelled for the same reason. If someone else can find that, the McCain campaign should be confronted with it. After all, McCain just said that he knows of no Pentagon rule that would prevent Obama from visiting.

I also think the Obama campaign should run with McCain's "seismic event" comment. It reinforces the issue of his temper, and the fact that he's proud of blowing his top, PLUS it can be used to support the fact that he sees himself above the rules. Growing up in a privileged family, like Bush, he doesn't think that the rules apply to him.

Just saying...

Might check the first comment on this thread. It's about McCain's April trip.

Don't trust Andrea. She's married to Alan Greenspan. And hasn't done what's right for America in a long time.

first she's the devil, now she's not so bad. these sentiments only make this blog appear wishy washy. so she did what she was supposed to do. big deal. in my world, that simply means you keep your job. you don't get praised for it.

constituent @ 48:

swampfox @ 45:

constituent @ 39:

swampfox @ 36:
caspian basin pipeline already in the making. obama has little to absolutely nothing to do with it. agreements have already been had on a u.s. presence in afghanistan. an all out war would call for 200-300k troops it's not going to happen. there going to show the taliban/al queda they're serious and deals will be made. it's very complicated and probably base on resources. india in ten yrs. will need close to twice the energy it currnetly uses. the u.s is trying to control this area before someone else does

yeah you keep telling me we have to go kill afgans to honor george bushes corporation agreements , complicateds got nothing to do with it, in ten yrs india will own america im not interested in what or who controls india im interested in whos dieing for bushes interests!

the afghan. government wants a u.s. presence why the economy is terrible and poppy cultivation is one of their largest money makers. afghanistan is vulnerable as is pakistan...nobody wants the killing...well maybe bush does...

the afgan governments a bush puppet group, and they are paid off by bush, they do not reoresent the tribes that inhabit afganistan, afganistan is like vietnam was and anybody who believed siagon was the represenitives of the peasent villigers is a fool, each tribe in afganistan have thier own government each villiage in south vietnam had thier own government niether countrys peasants recogonise that thiers one central government !

In other news: The left and the right pile on Pelosi on The View http://youtube.com/watch?v=hr_EY9cc5Jw

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/breaking/story.asp?ID=15898

Ahh, the fine smell of leaked names of Federal and Military employees published in small town newspapers.

Take a gander at the heavy hitters all collecting tax funded salaries from the NSA to high ranking officers . . . and then some.

Any guesses as to why a Saudi purchased a medical degree to be a GYN from our "American Dream" diploma mill?

She is still a fraud. She starts her questions about the attack ads by saying what a great American McCain is. She thinks that is the job of a journalist. I think McCain is Mr McGoo.

I can never trust Andeau (Michell) Greenspan, just look back at what she did to Al Gore and John Kerry, trust HER NEVER IN THIS LIFETIME.

the posts so far make me wonder...

what will people say if/when obama chooses greenspan as one of his economic advisers?

For Andrea Mitchell to say this hilarious! She spent the entire trip trashing Obama in every possible way. He's not giving access to the press (or ME!). He's messed up here. It's going to cost him. There was absolutely no reporting. It was all opinion, commentary, and venting day after day. So now she's trying to cover her ass on this. She should have recused herself from this "reporting" trip in the first place for her spousal connections to Greenspan, who single handededly allowed the global subprime meltdown, much of which involved European and Asians believing our claim that repackaged AAA-rated junk bonds were low-risk earning asset holdings. So now she tours what hubby wrought, yet comments about reactions by Germans, French, and Brits who took the economic pounding. What hypocrisy! Too late. MSNBC, please fire her or let her retire on her most recent face lift.

blackjack 63

"I can never trust Andeau (Michell) Greenspan, just look back at what she did to Al Gore and John Kerry, trust HER NEVER IN THIS LIFETIME."

There *is* something odd about this particular angle to this story... it's having a shelf life far beyond what it should have, considering it's mainly about a reporter (well, OK, a propagandist). Even the doughnut-sprinkle story got less play.

What is coming up in the future? Some scoop where Andrea's "objectivity" is needed? Where we'll believe it too because, well, she was the one who stood up and exposed the "troop poop".

Miatch @ 66:

Samson- @ 65:

the posts so far make me wonder...

what will people say if/when obama chooses greenspan as one of his economic advisers?

Have you heard Greenspan speak? Not gonna happen. ever.

how would then one explain obama's choice of economic advisers thus far?

i have heard greenspan mumble, which is why i asked the question to begin with.

"OOPS! You used the phrase 'begs the question' in an improper manner! 'Begging the question' (Latin petitio principii) is a form of logical fallacy in which an argument is assumed to be true without evidence other than the argument itself. It does not mean 'to raise the question.'"

http://begthequestion.info/

Obama is on the John Kerry Express to obscurity. McCain has had so many screw ups and the Obama camp has let him off the hook. They do keep saying that he is a great American and a war hero.

Gore...Kerry and now, Obama.... painfully idle. Democrats have stood by and watched their hopes get pounded....letting the Republicans eat their lunch. It's starting to look like we might "get fooled again."

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Just like Andrea.

I keep wanting to keep thinking the good thoughts! Like, maybe the MSM is giving Sen. McCain a little break right now while its still early and he's the presumptive GOP candidate. But then, and then and then, they'll start to slowly put the screws to him. They'll do this out of respect and given the fact he is the weaker candidate. I can think, can't I? perchance, dream, even?

Please, MSM, hear me! Start telling it like it is not the way you want it to be!

Well, well, it seems Mrs Greenspan has bigger balls than Mr Greenspan.

Who needs Andrea Mitchell to state the obvious? This just serves as "fairness" camouflage for her later attacks on Obama.

CNN - All uppity Obama, all day. Hey assholes. If "some say" he is acting too Presidential, who the fuck are they? Your CEO doesn't count.

Gather your children and get to the BOMB SHELTERS ! ! ! Surely its the "end of time". Andrea Mitchell defended Seantor Barach Obama? ! Stay in the BOMB SHELTERS too, Because SHE and the repubican biased news media will come back tomorrow and drop a BOMB in order to wipe her comments off the face of the earth!

I like to give credit when it's due and let us hope that she will continue to just tell it like it is.

You don't have to be a liberal to tell the truth or even support one. These people are expected to always just tell it like it is. Its that simple.

Andrea does not strike me as a person who gets a charge out of being blasted and demonized and I think she would rather travel the high rode.

There are some though, that are just gluttons for punishment and by golly they are going to get it from all sides as they deserve.

Now if she and Mika can convince their pal Joe Scarborough, to cool his nasty hot temper and settle down and except the fact that Obama will become president, he might be about to sleep a little better and live a lot longer.

Che's Lounge @ 2:

Broken clocks and all.

MC CAIN , IS NOT A MAVERIC, WHAT HE IS ,IS,,, MACHIAVELLIAN, AND IS BAD, BAD, LOOK IN THE DICCIONARY AND FIND OUT,WHAT MACHIAVELLIAN MEANS,
MC CAIN BECOME MC BUSH NOW