Barack Obama Launches New Ad On Energy
By Nicole Belle Sunday Aug 03, 2008 5:00pm
Obama made a big speech in Lansing, Michigan, on our energy dependence and need to move away from foreign oil.
Without a doubt, this addiction is one of the most dangerous and urgent threats this nation has ever faced - from the gas prices that are wiping out your paychecks and straining businesses to the jobs that are disappearing from this state; from the instability and terror bred in the Middle East to the rising oceans and record drought and spreading famine that could engulf our planet.
In response to these challenges, Obama announced his New Energy for America plan, which includes an immediate energy rebate to Americans struggling with high gas prices, the creation of five million new green jobs, and the elimination of our dependence on Middle Eastern oil in ten years.
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Only 3 decades late. Be sure to thank a republican next time you fill up.
Kind of a mild ad, considering that the g.o.p has been sucking at the teet of big oil since it was discovered and big oil has paid them back with tons of campaign contributions.
The G.O.P. will drink your milkshake.
If we want a diverse energy policy , lets start by investigating Oil company CEOs and their puppets in Congress.
tpm has a great posting today about the Hess corp and McCain.
Apparently a secretary at the company and her huband, an amtrack worker, each gave $28K to McCain the same day that 10 Hess executives also gave $28K to McCain. This is a woman who RENTS her house in Flushing, giving ~$57,000 to John S. McCain
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/hess_driver_maxe...
Ten years is a bit optimistic, methinks.
But still, it's the right idea.
Burning cop cars outside Obama rallies should be harnessed for fuel:
http://fiendfolio.blogspot.com/2008/08/burn-baby-burn.html
10 years? Make it 8! If it takes longer than 2 terms, the next administration (possibly R) may wipe it out.
Also, make us understand that there will be pain at the pump no matter what we do and that those rebates are the only way to ease it, even if it's very little.
my initial reponse it's a good ad and effective. mccain receiving large contribution....oil companies making large profits and being rewarded subsidizes...and it ends with
obama offering some quick/tangible relief....he needs to continue variations of this theme.
what's somewhat interesting is certain oil companies are buying their stock back....they're becoming more of a money/commodities trading vehicle. subsidized and buying back stock.
Yawn! It's John kerry all over again. I would like to see them hit McCain so hard the boil in his neck pops.
I cringe anytime someone says something like that. The energy crisis is a big deal, but it's not the most dangerous we've faced. It's not even in the top ten as far as I'm concerned. Sure, maybe for our current problems it's a big deal. But it's fluid. It could change in the near future without government interference. These emotional appeals are what drive me crazy about presidential politics. As soon as whoever gets into office they'll be swept under the rug unfortunately.
Dayum, Obama! That's the ticket! Attack them with the TRUTH! More of the same please?
If we say we can't do something, it won't get done. I like having a positive goal for a cleaner country. Rather than say more nasty drilling for more nasty oil is the only answer, let's entertain a new challenge with a positive attitude. This country needs something like this to have as a goal. All we have heard for eight years is beware the terrorist. It's kept the country in a stagnant state while everyone cowered in fear. It's time to do something positive and stop being the country who is the victim. Americans really can be better than that if they are given a rewarding challenge.
As to the ad. Anytime Americans are exposed to a photo of bush and McCain side by side, that's a good day for the Obama campaign. It connects these two to the money big oil wants and will continue to get with the two of them.
These two points need to be pushed hard if we ever want the people in "middle America" to accept renewable energy. They most likely don't give a crap about global warming, but they do care about job and national security.
this is what reid has to say about the fuel problem
he touches a few topics quickly i recommend it
http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/47491-djk-interviews-harry-reid-on-meet-th...
A step in the right direction, but harder. HARDER! Ask this simple question: If the oil compaanies back McCain and offshore drilling, do you think it's to help you? John McCain is four more years of the same oil-company sponsiored policies that have gotten us where we are over the last eight. FOUR-MORE-YEARS! FOUR-MORE-YEARS!
-Scott
I can only hope that Obama continues to take the offense. Any time McCain and company try to change the media narrative to something small and petty, Obama needs to give a press conference the next day highlighting policy differences between himself and McCain. FORCE the press to cover the POLICY differences instead of the petty little attacks that mccain wants to divert our attention with.
idea for the next ad showing mccain and bush hugging with the latest bush approval numbers "do you really want more of this" with a side views of the war and the pump...
Hey, it's positive with substance. No lies, no smears. It's definitely not a McStain ad.
tribute @11 says: "I cringe anytime someone says something like that. The energy crisis is a big deal, but it’s not the most dangerous we’ve faced."
I have to disagree. Many other things threaten the survival of the human race (drought, pestilence, famine, disease, war, etc.), but our energy policy has the potential to virtually eliminate ALL species. It's importance cannot be overstated.
For instance, do a search for "runaway greenhouse effect".
i suppose the ad is intended to have a shelf life to go through to november, but i would have liked to have heard "mccain got $2 million from oil companies since his flip-flop on offshore drilling."
pissed off patricia @ 11:
Yeah, it's all about image. They need to keep flashing pictures of Bush and McCain together.
About 70% of human communication is through image, which is why television was far more popular than radio. In 1984, Leslie Stahl did a six minute hard-hitting piece on Reagan, but the stock footage used had a smiling Reagan and cheering, flag-waving crowds. Studies later showed that only 25% remembered what the piece was about, while the other 75% remembered the positive images of Reagan.
Oops. Make that:
"Its importance cannot be overstated."
Okay, now look at the ad, and try to imagine you're a major-league GOP dick.
How would you attack it?
What is there to take out of context?
what suggestive sound bite could you abstract?
start thinking, cuz they will be...
non-profit say billions not being paid by some oil companies for lease....tax payers suppose to get royalties
http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=2711
Subliminal visuals'd work too
Juxtapose flashes of Bush/McCain/$5 gas at the pump...
You wouldn't have to do much more.
Just get it up and out there, cuz the pukes will
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I'm sorry but this does not impress me. It's not a policy. It's a dumb and fanciful taxation scheme to boy votes with an overly optimistic promise of $1000. It's an empty promise because I don't think Obama on his own could actually get that kind of thing through congress - even if he really wanted to, which I believe he doesn't. It's a stupid empty campaign trick. The republicans' anti-taxation campaigns are the same kind of thing - promising to take money out of the public coffers and give it to you for your vote. That's not a policy, that's a bribe. Show me a policy - like sound investments in renewable energy and fuel efficiency - and then you can earn my respect. I find this add very disappointing
woody, tokin librul @ 24:
that's what i'm saying with bush disapproval numbers
Rewnewable energy NOW! Enough of this funding the lazy greedy oil corp execs!
How about taking the phone call scene from the movie "Happiness" and just photoshopping John McCain's head in and overdubbing it with his voice. On the other end of the line, you could have some little kid answering the phone.
And then a voiceover could say... "John McCain is a creepy perv."
Hit harder. Hit lower. Good ad but too "high road". Kerry proved high road doesn't work. McSame started it, get in the mud, start slinging.
woody @ 24 "Pukes." I like that. It's what they make me wanna do. I'm going to use that more in my everyday conversation!
Ruthless@30, you are right, Obama has taken the high roed. But as we all know, there is no high road in politics today I'm afraid.
McCain only got 1.3 million. It's still a huge amount but now the MSM will be focusing on "Obama's misleading commercial".
RuthlessPeople@30
What's the proof that th low road would have led Kerry to the White House?
IMO, Kerry lost because he wasn't very inspiring. High road or low, I don't think the guy could have led a class of third graders to McDonalds for free Happy Meals.
If he doesn't start about domestic drilling McCain will pass him by in the polls and never look back. Obama keeps using intelligent eloquent speeches when the average voter can only understand simple words. McCain can do more with the "drill here drill now" message than any 20 minute Obama speech. Obama doesn't have to push for drilling once elected just talk about it now.
Henry Ford thought that he would be building out of Hemp, its too bad he was a fucken pussy and gave into Oil Companies
everybody gets oil money but who's getting the most take a quick look at this graph the answer is there
http://opensecrets.org/pres08/select.php?ind=E01
Does "foreign" oil include what you get from Canada? We're your #1 supplier. Maybe you consider us already conquered. Just that empty space at the top of your maps.
http://www.hempcar.org/ford.shtml
Surging Blue Lensman @ 33:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/150811 - Yeah, I read the same thing. The article has a few other things, like 400,000$ that Obama's received from big oil (individually mind you). Obama will probably pull the ad though... unlike McCain, who's surrogates tell everyone to relax and enjoy it.
McMethuselah doesn't give a crap ; he's only interested in his own personal energy , fueled by Viagra..............
Wind fall prices do two things:
(1) get passed along to the consumer
(2) drive U.S. companies to move overseas - taking U.S. jobs with them.
This is a really bad policy.
I didn't like Kerry. Few people I knew were enthusiastic about him. People are absolutely enthused about Obama. The very best thing we can do is share that enthusiasm by openly scoffing at McCain's commercials and saying, "Oops! There goes McCain again. What a sad, silly man." And then go town explaining why YOU support Obama.
If the media determines the race, McCain will win. If we talk back, we will win. It's simple. But you can't let people off the hook when they badmouth Obama. There are more of us that there are of Rush Limbaugh. But he talks, and we listen. We need to talk back and talk louder.
Wind fall prices do two things:
(1) get passed along to the consumer.
(2) drive U.S. companies to move overseas - taking U.S. jobs with them.
This is a really bad policy.
Maybe what he's suggesting is we go to Lopalooza to listen to bands playing through equipment powered by "clean coal" burning power plants? In vehicles charged with clean coal burning power plants? Surf the web on PC's powered by clean coal burning power plants?
Or maybe we need to tame our reputation as the biggest gluttons on earth?
Why doesn't he just say, look life is never going to be the same, what it used to be just vote for me.
Are you going to claim Bob Barr has a better one ?
On another topic...
Everyone should push the www.talkingpointsmemo.com headline story on Hess' contributions to McCain. It is absolutely shady. It overlaps with Obama's ad. And it should be up on the media's list of topics.
But it will only get there if we call and write to the media to cover the story.
Obama cannot be seen to be 'dissing' McStain.
White folks dont wanna see their white heroes dissed by uppity kneegorws.
his surrogates can and should kick gop ass ragged.
but if Obama m ush more than mealy-mouths, he'll be playing into the gopuke fear meme...
LOL...few people realize our #1 oil importer's our Northern neighbor, our #3's our Southern neighbor, only 1 of the top 5 nations we import from is Middle Eastern, and the other two are South American and West African. What dependence on Middle Eastern oil? Only 3 of the top 15 nations we import from are Middle Eastern. I smell a strawman alert!!!
A question for you all: What percentage of U.S energy imports are derived from the middle east?
Dubh @ 38:
Yeah, ya'll are #1, and Mexico's #3. We're such ungrateful SOBs, aren't we? Not to mention we think China's our top trading partner, when ya'll up North are.
But developing those resources would take time. A report last year by the Energy Department's Energy Information Administration said that "access to the Pacific, Atlantic, and eastern Gulf regions would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030. Leasing would begin no sooner than 2012, and production would not be expected to start before 2017." It added, "Because oil prices are determined on the international market, however, any impact on average wellhead prices is expected to be insignificant."
Umm @ 39:
Diesel, inventor of the eponymous motor, DESIGNED his engine to run on hemp oil...
47 woody, tokin librul Says: Obama cannot be seen to be ‘dissing’ McStain.
White folks dont wanna see their white heroes dissed by uppity kneegorws.
his surrogates can and should kick gop ass ragged.
but if Obama m ush more than mealy-mouths, he’ll be playing into the gopuke fear meme…
you know, this kinda shit doesn't benefit anyone.
Peter G @ 50:
Of the top 15 nations we import, 3 are Middle Eastern, 1 is North African. It's not that high a percentage, overall. Most of our oil comes from majority-Christian Canada and Mexico.
Peter G @ 50:
20, 22% sumpin like that...the us gets most of its oil from canada, mexico, south america, and west africa...the atlantic is our /national "personal" oil pool..
45 MCMetal Says: harley @ 41 Says:
Wind fall prices do two things:
(1) get passed along to the consumer
(2) drive U.S. companies to move overseas - taking U.S. jobs with them.
This is a really bad policy.
Are you going to claim Bob Barr has a better one ?
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Wind fall profits is socialism - plan and simple.
Wind fall profits - get passed along to the consumer - which will cause gas prices to go higher.
Wind fall profits - will ensure U.S. companies move overseas - which will ensure U.S. jobs will be losted.
Anyone is better than this policy. This is like NAFTA on steriods.
50 Peter G Says: A question for you all: What percentage of U.S energy imports are derived from the middle east?
And why is the US EXPORTING oil? Oh, that's right. Profit.
interesting too was fareed zakaria's discussion yesterday on global implications of the transfer of wealth borne by oil trading. conclusion is we must wean away from oil consumption.
abarts @ 54:
what, it's not true? you don't wanna hear it? what? it's the way it is...
You'll NEVER see Obama lecturing poor or lower-class whites the way he did the NAACP?
Well, he did try it once. Remember religion and guns? Those were white people he was referring to, and he got CRUCIFIED for it...remember?
50 Peter G Says: A question for you all: What percentage of U.S energy imports are derived from the middle east?
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Less than 12%.
the banks and wall street shut this topic down this is part of the problem...republicans siding with banks middle east officials know it.
Participants also agreed on the need to improve the transparency and regulation of financial markets. Saudi Arabia and other producer nations had blamed the billions of dollars of investments in oil as a hedge against the weakening dollar as a major reason for recent price spikes.
54 abarts No, but it is probably the truth.
Black @ 38 If we had any brains, we'd get most of our beer from Canada as well.
General_Rennenkampf @ 51:
When energy exports are taken out of the equation China is your biggest trading partner now. The point of the question I asked above was to illustrate the myth that the U.S is dependent on Middle East oil. This is not true. It isn't doing us Canuckis much good though. The energy exports distort the trade figures to show a large net gain under NAFTA which leads some people to believe that we've been taking jobs away from Americans. Equal access for the U.S to Canadian energy sources was a key element of NAFTA. Actual manufacturing jobs have effectively been neutral.
The biggest and best reward will be winning in November. As irritating as McCain can be, the best way to deal with it by responding with some good-natured, glad-handing and a cup of delicious prune juice.
McCain's attack ads are serious, but they can be easily refuted. And, in refuting them, we are free to raise questions about McCain's character. But if you can keep it light and present your argument in a kind and charismatic way, you can ease resistant people into the idea that Obama people are good people and Obama is a winner, while McCain is a bitter, desperate loser. And since this is pretty much true, you don't have to push hard to plant this seed.
But it is important to talk about Obama's campaign the way you would talk about Reagan or Clinton. And to talk about McCain the way you would talk about the prospect of a Ford victory or an Agnew victory or a LaRouche victory. People need to imagine President Obama, and imagine Senator McCain.
But... but... Obama has big ears....
saudi's know about speculation and hedging....banks trying to regain losses from subprime/credit fiasco
By Faiza Saleh Ambah
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, June 23, 2008; Page A08
JIDDAH, Saudi Arabia, June 22 -- Saudi Arabia on Sunday promised to increase oil production as needed while Western countries agreed to improve the transparency and regulation of financial markets, signaling a readiness from oil-producing and oil-consuming nations to make concessions and work together to tackle runaway prices.
Obama needs to stop being so mushy, flip-flopping and "compromising" on issues like wire-tapping and offshore drilling. It makes him look weak and political no matter which side of these issues you're on.
And I'm sorry, negative works. Period. Obama needs to atack, attack, attack, and attack fairly with this indiputable ammo: 1) McCain has voted 95% of the time with Bush, and his stated agenda is four more years of the same. 2) He has flip-flopped on practically every major issue (insert long list here), far more than Obama, usually to end up siding with Bush. 3) His energy plan is backed and financed by the same oil companies that brought you the last eight years; 'nuff said. 4) He is on video being dead wrong about Iraqi WMDs, being greeted as "liberators", the war being short and easy, the threat of Al-Qaida in Iraq, and on, and on and on and on... There's more. Use it. Make McCain unelectable. He should be.
General_Rennenkampf @ 55:
The figures I have found show only two Middle Eastern countries, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, in the top fifteen. The international oil business is so convoluted that I suspect accurate statistics will be hard to come by. http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_l...
i would like to see, too more investment in building a comprehensive mass transport system. the automobile has, for far too long, been a symbol of the insularity of the american; of an indivudual against others; of a family against other families; of a country against the world. the world shares resources and the automobile has been a sign of selfishness; i can drive a gas guzzler to whereever i want without considering these shared resources. as americans realize how precious energy sources are, then they would especially appreciate the cost effectiveness of sharing the expense of travel whether short or long. it would also sensitize americans to other people's plight, and perhaps some of the arrogance and the egocentricity will lessen.
The eco tech economy is already underway and Obama's college friend, Deval Patrick, recently pushed legislation through to get an eco tech growth initiative here. Massachusetts is well poised to become a Silicon Valley of eco tech. We have several highly innovative photo voltaic companies, Spire, Konarka and Evergreen along with a maker of ultra efficient white LED lighting systems and they are doing a lot of export business while dumb America eventually figures it out.
There is also a major presence for wind turbine design and manufacture. And it is already creating job growth to hedge job loss in other sectors leaving the commonwealth in much better shape than many states.
It's funny, when I'm not spending a few moments here running through hyperventilating threads of armchair general commentariats here and elsewhere, I'm working on B2B eco tech sites and tracking the emerging future. I'm very confident that Obama will be fine and I'm equally confident that the piss stream of hand wringing threads from one dimensional horribly informed 'progressives' will amount to little in the grand scheme of things.
I invite all of you to take a bit of time each day to just go find out about economic aspects like demand destruction, the emerging state of eco tech and its job growth potential and what each of you can do to reduce your carbon foot print and make yourselves less vulnerable to price spikes for energy and food.
Don't you think it would be an improvement over endless pontificating about what the candidates should do? Are you out working the precincts? Are you doing much of anything beyond donating a bit of money and working yourselves into a tizzy over every little tiny bit of poll movement and every little pitiful TV squeak or newspaper squawk.
Imagine what sorts of contributions you could make by just optimizing your own personal worlds and informing yourselves on all that is possible?
Anyway, I think that Obama's people did a great job on this ad. It links McKeating to GWB the sleazy oil man simply by telling the truth. It does not come off as "angry black man attacking war hero." They could do so much in that vein that they could fill the airwaves with it from now til November.
Peter G @ 65:
I know it's a myth, but then myths are seemingly unstoppable in US politics, remember some idjits here still think Obama's a Muslim. Still. After endless rehashings of Jeremiah Wright. After speculation that Obama's a false Christian. Still thinking he's Muslim.
BTW, I know NAFTA's screwed the hell out of Mexico, what's it been doing up North with the difference in economic status of Canada and Mexico? I'm not as well versed in relations with Canada as I should be. Also, how's Harper as PM? We've got a guy that's basically the same as the current President running against a guy that the only difference between the two with all the flip-flopping the two have done and the gaffes is skin color and party initial behind the name, so I'm curious...how's the Bush-clone in Ottawa working out? He as unpopular as Dubya?
70 Peter G Says: General_Rennenkampf @ 55:
Peter G @ 50:
A question for you all: What percentage of U.S energy imports are derived from the middle east?
Of the top 15 nations we import, 3 are Middle Eastern, 1 is North African. It’s not that high a percentage, overall. Most of our oil comes from majority-Christian Canada and Mexico.
The figures I have found show only two Middle Eastern countries, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, in the top fifteen. The international oil business is so convoluted that I suspect accurate statistics will be hard to come by. http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil.....mport.html
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Yeah the general public does not understand the GOP has demonized countries that we don't even buy oil from. Amazing, like WMDs Part II.
Peter G @ 70:
Iraq isn't Middle Eastern? >.>
Yes, we're occupying it, but still, occupation does not negate geography.
Allowing pure capitalism , unfettered and without any control over it , is suicide - corporations care only about the bottom line , and are greedy and untrustworthy ; are you gullible and foolish enough to believe that industry will police itself or themselves ?
Are you going to complain about prices when prices have never been higher anyway ?
Move overseas ? How many companies are left now anyway ?
And why would 'companies' leave with a windfall tax on the oil companies ?
Out of concern ?
so harley, do you prefer using government money, taxpayers' money, on bailing out mismanaged companies like bear stearns, fannie mae and freddie mac. windfall profits is being made at the expense of people who need gas to live. it's not a luxury item. alternatively, oil prices can be regulated.
harley @ 75:
The average American probably can't find St. Louis, Missouri on a map, how do you expect them to distinguish between Middle Eastern nations?
Chris Rich @ 72 Yeah, it's too bad that we can't all be like you; the world would be a perfect place!
#77 And why would ‘companies’ leave with a windfall tax on the oil companies ?
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Because they could be the next one in the cross hairs.
Pepsi is making to much money overseas - they need to pay a windfall.
General_Rennenkampf @ 76:
I thought it was going to be the fifty-first state. But it hasn't actually been producing much oil for export lately. Still, my bad.
78 masha Says: so harley, do you prefer using government money, taxpayers’ money, on bailing out mismanaged companies like bear stearns, fannie mae and freddie mac. windfall profits is being made at the expense of people who need gas to live. it’s not a luxury item. alternatively, oil prices can be regulated.
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The bailouts will cause more inflation and higher gas prices.
The reason the gas prices are high is because of monetary policy.
USD is the world reserve currency it is near an all time low meaning everything priced in USDs is near all times highs. That is just economics.
Outsourcing the manufactoring base, high paying jobs and insourcing people on working visas is ensuring the quality of life if being exported it - with it our purchasing power.
Chris Rich @ 72:
OK, let's say we all go eco-tech in 10 years. Let's look at the logistics, mmkay? US infastructure's in the pits as it is, and to create a modernized eco-safe society in 10 years requires first, fixing infrastructure across the greater part of a continent. Second, it requires that subsitutes be found for oil, which is easy enough. Now, what happens to all those unusuable I-C engine cars? Where are they put? A lot of car mechanics are environmentally unsound. What do we do with those? Then there's the issue of providing energy in different parts of the nation. Wind won't work in parts of the country. Solar won't work in parts of the country. Nuclear has its hazards and puts guys like most commentors here into shrieking frenzies. So, in addition to overhauling an ailing infrastructure, getting rid of devices dependent on the no-longer-used oil, and providing energy sources best suited for the nation's different regions, this all has to be done in 3650 days. Are you guys fucking kidding me?
Peter G @ 82:
There's no way Iraq would become a US state.
Pepsi isn't an integral part of getting everyone to work ; besides , there is Coke and other soft drinks to take up that slack.
Your assessment is foolishly silly at best.........
They probably discovered that Iraq truly did reach peak oil and maybe they can just steal some from Iran by bombing them to smithereens.
86 MCMetal Says: harley @ 81 says :
#77 And why would ‘companies’ leave with a windfall tax on the oil companies ?
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Because they could be the next one in the cross hairs.
Pepsi is making to much money overseas - they need to pay a windfall.
Pepsi isn’t an integral part of getting everyone to work ; besides , there is Coke and other soft drinks to take up that slack.
Your assessment is foolishly silly at best………
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It was just an example. Oil companies are not making really not doing that well.
Exxon Mobile stock is hitting 52 week day after day.
The oil refineries are at multi year lows.
My example Pepsi - is making 80% of its earnings overseas that is not taxed in the U.S. How soon before that starts raising an eyebrow with your new socialism concept of taking profits. Another point Pepsi has margain is 19.5% Exxon profit margin is 10.8%.
Fox News has a higher profit margin than Exxon.
Your little corner gas station is not even making a 2% profit margin and the hike in mimimum wage is squeezing that.
87 bob Says: They probably discovered that Iraq truly did reach peak oil and maybe they can just steal some from Iran by bombing them to smithereens.
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Bob you hit on something there. When it was found that Afghanistan was overstating their oil reserves we turned the sights on Iraq and basically handed it off the UN in record time.
CLASS WARFARE HAS BEGUN.... and 99% of the votes should be with OBAMA !!!!
finally a real ATTACK AD.... long live the DEMOCRACY !!!!!
........ GOBAMA!!!!!!!!
I am not even going to bother addressing your entire idiotic post ; your claim that Exxon stock being at "52" and remaining there "day after day" is absolute bullshit.
It opened today at 79 , you stupid lying sack of shit.....................
I am not even going to bother addressing your entire idiotic post ; your claim that Exxon stock being at “52″ and remaining there “day after day” is absolute bullshit.
It opened today at 79 , you stupid lying sack of shit…………………
Why the name calling, Mr Rove?
52 week lows. It is hitting 52 week lows day after day. It was down another 3.91% today. Since May 21 it is down over 20%.
It is less than a 10% profit margain now.
Chris Rich @ 72 Thanks for the lesson in hubris. I'd be willing to bet that there are a number of people who blog here that are very active in their communities. Personally, I've led a campaign to rid a local lake of sewege and make the EPA do their job. I've exposed a local government's reluctance to get a paramedic program on line and became that city's first paramedic, starting CPR programs in community public places. I've volunteered at a raptor rehab program and wildlife rescue group.
There's a lot more; it doesn't matter other than to demonstrate that people who blog have REAL LIVES too.
I'll bet that there are people here who do TWICE as much as you and I do; but they probably take their own good works in stride - because they're good people.
Why don't you save your lectures and patronising attitude and use it on your kids? How the F*** do you get your head out the door? puppy!
Why the tears for the oil companies , Mr Bush ?
Are the profits the company has been pulling in down in any way ?
this add is not nearly as good as anyone makes it out to be
barak should NOT be saying he's "going to add a windfall profit tax", what he NEEDS to say is;
"the bush adminsitration gave middle class assets to the petro industry because he is in their pocket, barak intends on getting those middle class assets back so we can invest in alternative fuel and our infrastructure"
obviously that needs work but that's the idea, NOT to "tax" but to "reclaim assets which belong to the middle class
This is weak sauce. Nevermind that Obama has now opened himself up to criticism for wavering a bit on offshore drilling. There should be ads clearly stating that the idea off offshore drilling creating anything but profits for the same people who have been happy to use our treasury as their disposable slushfund is a complete LIE! Send the "liar" brand home. Then, if you want to look centrist about it, sign on withthe plan that the opportunist Pickens is pitching and move with a New Deal type program to generate wind energy facilities in the midwest. It will create a hell of a lot of jobs and help get us off foreign energy.
Hell, why not propose something even more out there? We're down to drill for oil. So, why not drill for magma and create some geothermal plants? We had a program attempting to do that which stopped one kilometer short of hitting the magma because they ran out of funds. Hit them in their most vulnerable spot, show how exploring other avenues creates both jobs and energy independence, and call McCain and his cronies opposing these programs "liars." None of the silly smear shit they come up with after that will matter. Send the "liar" brandname home. In the end, this is the root of all disapproval with Bush and Republicans. HIT IT!
What's with the calm wispering voice over? Aren't we mad about the oil companies making record profits? Aren't we scared that another oil man will get the presidentcy? How about trying a screaming head vo listing McSame's mistakes, errors and lies? Isn't it worth it? Show some emotion.
McCain flips on offshore drilling and receives over $1 million from Big Oil.
Then McCain says his new Best Buds, the oil company execs, have told him that the Energy department's experts that say the offshore scam will not pay off at all for 10 years are wrong.
McCain's Pals in Big Oil tell him, "2 years tops."
Can't the Democrats fight back with that ammo?
Obama's energy plant is a corporate interests wet dream:
-More "Clean Coal"
-More Nukes
-More Corn Based Ethanol
-$1000 "Rebate" (a pathetic "buy your vote" sham like the "gas tax holiday")
-Cap and Trade.
-And "require that 10% of our energy comes from renewable sources by the end of my first term.'
Wow...10%. "Bold", Senator. Bold.
Its really nothing new nor very effective except for "Cap and Trade" which was retread of a pretty good Joe Lieberman/John Warner bill (S.2191) but there's no real innovation or urgency here.
Its a "Keep it afloat and don't piss of the big contributors" plan.
(Ok, let me head of the Obamanites here and just say...Yes. It is "better than McCain. High praise on these threads.)
Lets do ourselves and the world a favor. Nationalize healthcare and Oil. Keep the criminals out. Oh yeah, lets not forget putting these sleaze ball oil execs in prison.
How about an ad showing McCain economic guru Phill Gramm calling the American people "whiners, and imagining their economic problems!"
How in the freakin' hell did the Obama camp fail to take advantage of that one? Are these people brain fucking dead!!!
If the situations were reversed, the repukes would have ads on t.v. before Obama left the podium. They would run them 24/7, and within a week, would have picked up 10% in the polls, minimum!
Jebus H. Christ, what the hell is wrong with these people? Failing to point out what psychotic scumbags the opposition is because it wouldn't be nice?
How 'bout instead of some announcer dude, or dudette, Barack actually record the voice for the whole add? He's a great speaker anyway, and would help build a better connection between him and the votes listening to the add.
This is a very effective line of attack for Obama.
Especially since McCain is using the gas crisis to attack him.
I suggest Obama keep it up. Paint McCain as the big oil guy and link the attempts at expanded drilling to the connection between him and his oil buddies. Call it for what it is, a shameful land-grab by the oil giants to ensure long-term profits.
harley @ 92:
good time for them to buy back their stock.......no?
listener's mother @ 26:
I have to agree with this one. Is this going to be a bidding war to buy votes? $1000 goes pretty fast these days. How about a chicken in every pot? Come on. That was a good ad till the bribe part.
I'm still voting for the one with the better ideas. At least maybe something will change for someone having a little stretch of the imagination. It's interesting how everything is so black and white these days. Either you satisfy my every need or get out? I pity your sex lives at the least.
Windfall profits taxes are the worst economic idea I have heard in a long time. Right up there with McCain's gas tax holiday.
Simply cutting the tax breaks is all he should promise. Hammer the point home tha McCain wants to continue the tax breaks.
What kills me is that McBush uses the terms clean and renewable energy in the same sentence with building more nuclear (or is it nucular?) power plants. Drilling for off-shore oil supplies isn't the answer either. After all, it was the Decider himself who said We are addicted to oil. Isn't that like handing an alcoholic a case of Jack because he's having the DT's? I mean who should know more about addiction than Bush himself? I don't think anyone's really sure if the crude off the East and West coasts and in ANWR are really worth it. If there is substantial and usable crude, it would take ten years before it saw the inside of a gas tank. This country hasn't built a new refinery in over thirty years, and the ones we do have are literally ticking time bombs because they are so old and in disrepair. Exactly what are the oil companies doing with their profits again? The Gulf of Mexico is jam-packed with oil and natural gas platforms...and it's literally half-dead, YEAH...let's do that to the rest of the oceans surrounding Our country.
Surging Blue Lensman Says: McCain only got 1.3 million. It’s still a huge amount but now the MSM will be focusing on “Obama’s misleading commercial”.
That's what he got from the Hess family. He's received more than $2M from oil company execs.
harley @ 57:
Democracy is socialism - get over it.
This ad is just what I've come to expect from Obama - nice & safe. "Aint it a bitch we all haffta pay so much for gas these days?" 8 years of the Bush Junta, 8 years of verifiable lies, treason, corporate sell-outs, inside jobs, and blatant grabs at total one-party power consolidation and the best ad Obama can pull out of his ass is "Aint gas prices a bitch?"
Campaign's over, welcome to the next 4 years. Kerry didn't win because he wasn't supposed to. The corporations saw to that. Obama wont win for exactly the same reason - there's too much money invested to risk a loss. Expect the media to sell you the story that "it's a close race" just long enough for the general populace not to question the voter fraud and Diebold stealing of the elections. Same shit 4 years later, and the way you'll know Obama is in on it is he'll pull a Kerry - wont fight it, politely concedes, and toddles off, tail between his legs back to the senate. Obama's just playing the part he was hired to play.
So McSame only got $1.3 million ... I wouldn't be proud of selling out for a cheaper amount. I would have at least doubled it and said, "Who could resist $4 million?" ... rather than admit I sold my soul for less. He's not only a "sell-out", he's a "cheap sell-out".
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