Unity Realized: Hillary Suspends Roll Call and Formally Nominates Obama
By SilentPatriot Tuesday Aug 26, 2008 6:30pm
In an incredibly unifying and symbolic moment during the New York state delegate roll call, Senator Hillary Clinton asks for a suspension of the vote and requests the nomination of Barack Obama by acclamation. RIP "Democratic Disunity" meme.
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"With eyes firmly fixed on the future, in the spirit of unity, with the goal of victory, with faith in our party and our country, let's declare together, in one voice, right here, right now, that Barack Obama is our candidate and he will be our President. Madame Secretary, I move that the convention suspend the procedural rules and suspend the further conduct of the roll cal vote -- all votes cast by the delegates will be counted -- and I move Senator Barack Obama of Illinois be sleceted by this convetion by acclamation as the nominee of the democtaric party for president of the United States."
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gObama!!!!!!!
Great job. The tears in the stands got to me.
Why the show? Why not fully concede a month ago? Again, it's all about the Clintons...
And on we go. I wish I could have seen it live, but a little thing called work keeps me here
Srsly, for a good laugh, hillaryis44.com. "suicide watch." Oh they admit to trepidation in using the word, but by golly, it's what applies.
Then there's the malevolent miss from taylormarsh.com. "What's so great about not being President? You obamabots and your messiah. Meh. Spin all you want. I'm Independent, with, like, a mind and everything. You can't sway me!!!!"
The unhinged will NEVER ever stop. Hillary did a great job. She was saddled with Bill and Mark Penn. It's over, though. Let's move on to tearing McCain apart...figuratively speaking of course.
Hillary gets to go back to the Senate and be part of (FSM willing) a majority for years to come. Nothing wrong with that.
Chris V @ 3:
Thanks for proving my point. Move ON already.
WOW!
Don't F%$k this up, America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very cool. Despite the plants and trolls who will try to say otherwise, there can be no doubt about party unity now. Well done Hillary. Well done.
No way.
No how.
No McCain
No way.
No how.
No McCain.
No way.
No how.
No McCain.
http://www.cafepress.com/JShankel
More war and bigger government. Demopublicans and Republicrats are two sides of the same coin. Will someone wake up America as Kucinich implored! Vote for someone who represents your interests or don't vote at all.
tuddies @ 11:
Good luck with that very generalized message.
Heard David Brooks say,with Democrats ahead almost 10-20 points on some issues, why is the race (two party preffered) almost a dead heat.
i thought it was great!
Jeez, Look how much MSM is treating this. The world is falling apart, and these asses are going on and on about the Convention. The talking heads are like giddy schoolgirls talking about the prom. No news on Bush or Chaney. Health care mortgage mess are all taking a backseat. Makes me sick!
Chris V @ 3:
No, learn the rules of the convention. There are protocols involved. Delegates were nominated to represent the votes for her. They were obligated to do so. To "move on" would be a slap in the face to the process that the party has set up.
She showed without a doubt (unless you're just determined to hate Hillary) that it ISN'T about her.
Brilliant!!
Of course its a show. But that's what the people who are stupid enough to be undecided need.
And the Party needs it to counteract the Corporate Media spin of disunity.
very moving moment ..
In her speech last night she seemed relaxed ..
Today she seemed to be enjoying herself ..
very moving ..
Pundit Bong Weasel @ 13:
The one thing that the Repugs are better at is running campaigns, plain and simple, the voters hate them on every issue, but the run one heck of a propaganda machine. Goebbels would be proud of all that Karl Rove, Rick Davis, et al have done.
Bill Clinton didn't get his way. If he can't even bring himself to attend Obama's acceptance speech, how the heck can he go back to is office in HARLAM?
He has wasted eight years of his life in New York hoping it would bring him back to the White House. I bet he moves back to Arkansas.
What about Edwards' delegates? They were released without this dog and pony show. We've wasted six months when we should have been concentrating on John McCain.
Pundit Bong Weasel @ 13:
Brooks and his ilk are baiting.
They want someone to point out that alot of people are going to vote solely on the basis of race.
Then they'll pounce with the "race card".
As if pointing out racism is as bad as racism.
Nicole Belle @ 16:
Spot on Nicole.There is a persistent media generated story-line that continues to denigrate Clinton which utterly ignores the facts.I'm much to left wing to be a fan of the Clintons,but I AM a fan of the truth.
Wow...she made me cry twice in two days. And here I thought I didn't like her that much. I am now fully convinced that the entire Obama - Hillary feud was a figment of the media's imagination.
OBAMA 08
DEMS 08
When we win, the whole country wins.
Chris V @ 3:
Tell that to CNN et al. The Democrats wanted to make a statement that the "rift" is pure bullshit, and they felt that this bit of theatre was a way to drive that message home.
Hey, this is Petulant Bill's big night, isn't it?
Nicole Belle @ 16:
not only conceding those fine points, it's also great theatre. it plays out well for both obama and hillary in the end and the audience gets to watch a little "drama".
As much as i liked Hillary, I hated how negative she went against Obama. McCain is using her own ads to knock Barack down. I just want this election over. 3 more months of this will make me go insane.
Helena Montana @ 26:
Last night Bill was cheering Hillary's endorsement of Obama stronger than anyone else.
I'm looking forward to see what he says tonight.
Hoping the MSM pundits' heads explode.
(But I won't be watching them .. I'll count on C&L to do *that* dirty work for us!)
How will the Goopers spin Hill's actions today? Hmm...
Pundit Bong Weasel @ 13:
I think that some of that is media generated. Studies have showed that the "liberal media" has been much harder on Obama than they have on McCain. We've spent more media air time focusing on 60 PUMA members (who are really GOP) than we have on the fact that Huckabee consistently got about 25-28% of the GOP vote and Ron Paul got 9-12% and neither's supporters have shown any inclination towards McCain.
I think the poll methodology is somewhat faulty as well. The turnout during the primaries was not reflected in the pre-primary polls.
And then finally, I think the Obama campaign must share some responsibility. Obama has (admiringly) said that he wants to run an above board campaign and not get dirty. Well that only works when both sides agree to the rules. The Repubs are playing dirty and those smears work on low info voters.
Hillary . . . Hillary . . . narcissist . . .
Gag me with a motherfucking spoon.
P.D. @ 28:
Yeah!
I was a firm Hillary supporter until those ads came out. I knew the Republicans would use them against either candidate.
But she has redeemed herself in my eyes.
NO MORE SCALIAS! NO MORE THOMASES!
Woopdeedoo.
So when Obama voted to give the telecom companies immunity for illegal wiretaps, is that the kind of "change" I can believe in?
Anyways, Hillary is a great actress, and this is so ridiculously staged it is beyond belief that people fall for it.
Pundit Bong Weasel Says:
"Heard David Brooks say,with Democrats ahead almost 10-20 points on some issues, why is the race (two party preffered) almost a dead heat."
Because the people with the big media slots like Brooks like to talk about things like why the democrats aren't trouncing the republicans by being with the voters on the issues rather than talking about the issues.
Hillary Clinton may have NOW redeemed herself with her CLASS act of moving for nomination of Barack Obama by acclamation! OsiSpeaks.com
Finally.
Her disgusting tactics swiftly forgotten :(
MountainMan23 @ 29:
Bill was cheering because he knew the camera was on him. He is the consummate media whore. I understand that after he speaks tonight he plans on leaving the convention before Obama speaks. He is a and has always been a huge dick.
Harry Reid took a break from wrting a sternly worded letter with Patrick Leahy long enough to speak at the convention. He's speaking now and he's putting me to sleep.
Yaaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn.
Widespread @ 32:
Amen! As I said in another thread, you could play a drinking game with the number of times she said "I', "me" or "my" in her speech last night. She (and Bill) wonder why they are polarizing figures. Jesus Christ.
....for God's sake get Harry Reid off the stage before we loose the viewing audience.
It takes a wise man to be a cynic and a wiser one not to.....something like that...for those who think EVERYTHING the Clintons do is calculated, there is no hope, and good luck to them....but Hillary has acted like a true statesman through this and it is much needed....good for her, good for the democrats, good for everybody.
wow, just wow
Vince @ 38:
You don't offer someone an olive branch then punch them in the face. Forgive and forget it. You can be pissed off about what happened 4 months ago during a heated primary, or you can look to the future and what we can accomplish as a unified party. I would think the decision would be obvious.
CMINCA @ 41:
Well, you better get used to her being around for awhile longer.
Just go and vote for McCain already and seal your fate.
Ruthless People @ 42:
I know it's a typo, but I can't resist: I've been waiting to turn a mob "loose" on Harry Reid for months now. :)
My guess is there are more Republicans who are dissatisfied with McCain, and who may not support their party's nominee, than there are Democrats who will not support Obama. Just a guess.
CMINCA @ 39:
I disagree.
I saw a different Hillary last night. I think she no longer felt the pressure to perform, to live up to somebody else's expectations - and I think Bill liked what he saw.
I'm actually looking forward to seeing what he says tonight - and I'm certainly not a fan of his.
Who needs conservatives to beat up on Hillary and Obama. We have progressives doing it here on a regular basis.
CMINCA @ 39:
How many points do people get for comments like this? Is it like Kool-Aid points? Do they get plastic cups and pitchers when they turn them in?
Chris V @ 3:
Helena Montana @ 26:
Maybe you guys can answer a question, since you're so enlightend.
Will there be a white cloak check room at the GOP convention?
krisken @ 51:
I'll give myself points for saying exactly how I feel and how I see it. Excuse me if I'm not patronizing. GFY.
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MountainMan23 @ 49:
Believe me, I tuned in looking forward to seeing a different Hillary. I wish I had. I truly wish I had.
Good lord some of you are cranky.
I think this was an awesome move, and something she totally didn't have to do.
All y'all overtly cynical I-hate-everyone types are such a downer. Go get thee some Zoloft.
Can anyone tell me where in the voting comes New York, or in other words, how many states' delegates voted before Clinton moved to suspend the voting? Thanks!
Jazzylady @ 54:
You'll need to do better to get your McCain points.
Everything you said is/was bullshit.
It's a damn shame that the sports teams in the Twin Cities were displaced for so long to get ready for the GOP convention.
I guess there was a delay in installing the race segregated restrooms.
Only desperate, rude, nut case Obamite's would assume she would say . . "I move that the convention suspend the procedural rules and suspend the further conduct of the roll cal vote — all votes cast by the delegates will be counted — and I move myself be selected by this convention by acclamation as the nominee of the democratic party for president of the United States.”
Liberal AND Proud @ 59:
Or perhaps they needed more time to complete the installation of the anger management room for Sen. McCain.
mudshark @ 46:
You DEFINITELY have the wrong impression. I'm voting for Obama. I would have voted for her, is she had won the nomination. I would have voted an Obama-Clinton ticket had she been selected for the VP slot. The issues are what's important. All of this disunity is taking away from the real issues of this campaign. It is very frustrating and disheartening.
It seems to me the the Clinton's and the Obama's have buried the hatchet.
For those of you who can't accept that. Well, that's your problem. We're moving forward without you.
Buh bye!
L.A. Confidential @ 60:
Actually, that was the plan. http://www.democracynow.org/2008/8/27/narrowing_the_obama_clinton_divide_a
AMY GOODMAN: Sacha Millstone [Clinton delegate], explain how this all takes place today. There is lots of information swirling about whether the roll-call vote would take place on the convention floor or at your hotels today.
SACHA MILLSTONE: Unfortunately, we don’t have all the details, and that is one of the most confusing pieces of this. What I am told is that it’s going to be up to the state delegations. So, apparently, some state delegations will be voting at breakfast, and I’m also—
AMY GOODMAN: And what do you mean, voting?
SACHA MILLSTONE: Well, apparently—again, unfortunately, one of the problems is this process has not been made clear to everybody, and every day something seems to be changing. So, what I say today could be different in a couple hours.
AMY GOODMAN: Let me read something from the Denver Post. “Supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton furiously circulated petitions on the floor of the Democratic National Convention last night,”—I assume you were one of them, Sacha—“hoping to stave off a plan to hold the convention’s roll call at breakfast Wednesday—out of the public eye—sources inside the delegations said.
“The move being worked out between the Obama campaign and officials behind Clinton’s suspended bid, would work in two parts: Delegates would cast votes at their hotels Wednesday morning; that night, at the Pepsi Center convention site, the roll-call process would rely on the votes cast that morning.”
“Colorado [Rep.] Diana DeGette, a former state co-chair for Clinton said she knows the camps are in negotiations about what to do.”
Hillary showed that she cares more about unity and victory than she does about herself. Now, if she could only ditch that sleazeball of a husband and fly solo she would find more people supporting her in whatever she chooses to do.
I have found new respect for her after this.
I'm sure Obama was elated when Hillary moved to affirm his nomination by acclamation. I don't know if any of this will impress undecided voters. Millions still have questions about Obama. Before casting their vote in November, millions want to know if Barack Obama believes in the Black Liberation Theology of his former church.
Jazzylady @ 54:
So, what's your point?
I'll give you an undeserved benefit of the doubt and assume you know that virtually every American civic building is based on Greek Revival architecture. Just about all of DC, incl the White House and the Washington Monument, and most govt buildings throughout the U.S. are based on Greek architecture. Also, ...
Are you just jealous that your greek god, Bush, is about to be dethroned?
Pundit Bong Weasel @ 13:
I don't think it's a dead heat. I think you've got some people hurt by Hillary's loss saying they won't vote or will vote for McCain; when the time comes, they'll do as they always do and vote for the Dem (see Wallace's shrinking numbers in '68). You've got many many many young voters who came out for the primaries who will assuredly come out for the general election; these people have cell phones only and DO NOT SHOW UP in the polls, which are almost exclusively land line respondents (for example, my house, with 6 voting adults, though mostly we're old farts, all voting for Obama, yet no land line whatsoever). You've got a # of people who think the Repubs will steal enough votes to win in a squeaker, so they're lying to pollsters and saying they'll vote for McCain so that the Repubs programming the voting machines will think they need to steal fewer votes than they actually need to steal. I think if they election were held as soon as the primaries are over, you'd find Obama winning by 6-8%, meaning that before Repub thievery he actually wins by 10-12%.
CMINCA @ 62:
What's your point then, All you're doing is sowing the seeds of dissension..
In case you've forgotten, BC left the country in the black.
I don't understand all this hatred for the Clintons. Again, today she has proven to be a team player. What more do you folks want, for her to get down on her knees and beg? WELL, Let me tell ya , That will never happen. Because she doesn't need too.
She has shown so much class in the last two days, that should make any rational mind accept that she is doing the right thing.
Look, both campaigns took shots at each other. Thats politics. If it were a clean sport, there would be a helluva lot more people willing to get into it. Neither one of these two are saints.
Jo @ 65:
Right now that she gave it to Bo everything is gRoOvY.
Chris V @ 3:
Did you ever stop for a moment and consider that this could have been a well thought out ploy to rat fuck the GOP spinmeisters - that Obama and her concocted this to make the assholes look utterly stupid by totally destroying the image of disunity and and Clinton powre grabbing that they've been carefully crafting for the past few months?
No, I didn't think so. Get over your Clinton hate. She just proved herself better than you. (and no I've NEVER been a Clinton supporter)
mudshark @ 63:
Diebold.
Good luck.
AmorDeCosmos @ 57:
They vote in alphabetical order. Although they can pass or offer their slot to another state. So I'm not sure when New York's vote came up.
Great move Hillary!!!
Very classy!!
Chris V @ 3:
The Clintons have results to back them up: 1992-2000: best economy ever, transformed Republican half trillion dollar deficits to Clinton half trillion dollar surpluses, lowest unemployment in decades: black, white, everyone; 22.7 million new jobs - not a fluke either: 92 campaign was: "It's the economy, stupid!". The Clintons delivered big time. What's Obama got to compare w that?
L.A. Confidential @ 70:
You of all people know everything is not groovy. I had to swallow a huge lump of despair when my chosen candidate, Dennis Kucinich was drowned out by the circus come to town. But, Obama is the candidate. McCain is insane and would have us in WWIII before the bible cools.
So if someone pushes a baby carriage into the street then grabs it and pulls it back just before a truck hits it, that someone is a hero?
Clinton has spent the last six months doing McCain's dirty work for him. One admittedly great speech and conceding a roll call vote (after forcing her name into nomination) hardly make up for that.
But it is a start.
Tied with the successor to the worst administration in history?
Buh. Bye.
O.K. Let's wrap this presidency thing up and get back to trying to live up to our progressive ideals.
OK
We wanted Hillary to support Obama.
Has she finally done enough to please everyone?
L.A. Confidential @ 75:
hillary was not president.
Very classy move by Senator Clinton, and President Clinton's speech was great.
It was necessary for Hillary to end the roll call. It was necessary to remove all doubt that it was her choice, and not a matter of the DNC forcing its hand on the nomination process. Much of the animosity among Clinton supporters seems fed by the belief that her nomination was being taken away for her. So they made it happen in the open. I'm sure she'll say some other headline grabbing things in favour of Obama in the next few weeks when they'll stand out as their own stories.
SlaveryIsFreedom @ 34:
pity the same can't be said of an overtly rethuglican troll...
Hillary knocked it out of the park. She did everything and more that was expected of her. She demonstrated why she is, and will always be, a great leader.
BAC
First off, I will vote for Obama. I thought Hillary gave a great speech and Bill is always a great speaker. You should have heard him in his younger fire and brimstone days. Since Clinton is the only really successful president since the 1960's (I think Carter was great, but was too good a man to be president) you really out to take it easy on the Clintons. The repugs have done enough damage to them already.
Well, you can say she towed the party line in what appeared to be a classy move. But she is not going away. Not for a long shot. She just threw her hat in the ring for 2012.
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 87:
You really are a bitter person aren't you?
AndrewK @ 83:
Now this is likely. Hillary willingly did not do this. But I'm glad she did. You're right in saying that it was necessary to promote the "party unity" angle.
But, I hope people don't forget what she did during the Primary. And I hope that in the interviews, articles and books to come, they keep on pressing her on what she did--especially for the 3am ads and the ties to McCain.
mudshark @ 88:
No. I'm not as easily fooled by this "sudden move".
Other than that, I'm elated that she rolled over and thought of something bigger than herself.
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 90:
So which one is it Ceci? You hate her or you accept her? Which one? You've been playing both ends towards the middle here.
There can be no middle ground on this one. Which one is it?
Symbolism bores me...
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mudshark @ 91:
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 94:
mudshark @ 95:
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 96:
mudshark @ 97:
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 98:
I would like to add that I think that those problematic tendencies should be discussed and analyzed, especially when it has to do with race and gender.
(Sorry SM, I forgot this last line to clarify myself. I wish there was an edit button).
mudshark @ 99:
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 101:
mudshark @ 102:
CMINCA @ 39:
You do appreciate how ridiculous this sounds, right? If he cheers off-camera, you won't see it, and thus claim that he didn't do it because he's a dick. If he cheers on-camera, it's because he's a dick.
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 101:
This is all so silly. Don't pretend that you're simply making an 'honest observation' about Hillary Clinton when we know that there's an attack in there as well. After all, why point out that she is as tactical as any other politician otherwise? Fantastic; you have proved that she's cognisant of her surroundings and tries to make the best out of things both for herself as well as for her party. You could make the case, from a psychological perspective, that all human beings are innately manipulative and/or selfish. First-year university students know this. You aren't holding Hillary Clinton to the same standard you hold others to.
{ You dug yourself a hole you'll never get out of here. And it's kind of a shame, I liked you. SiteMonitor}
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 100:
...because it serves your agenda of divisiveness...?...
Meat @ 105:
Thank You.
I think Obama now needs to prove that it's all not about him and his egotistical needs.
They barely allowed a nay vote
Is it just that it's late, or does Hillary look a lot like Christopher Walken in that picture?
I am so very proud of both Hillary and President Clinton, for taking the stand they both knew to be the right thing to do.
They truly showed how very much they love this country and how much they value the American people.
They both did Obama well and I could not have been more pleased with them, and I know that this is not the end for either of them. They will both be much needed and play huge rolls in his election process, as well as his administration.
Best thing to happen in a long while. Still being bitter about Hillary losing to Obama will reduce the momentum the Dems need to overcome McSame. We got to bury the hatchet, unite and move on.
McPOW has made it very clear he will make ladies' bodies government property, if not his property (as if 7 houses weren't enough). Remember that.
So when Obama voted to give the telecom companies immunity for illegal wiretaps, is that the kind of "change" I can believe in?
Anyways, Hillary is a great actress, and this is so ridiculously staged it is beyond belief that people fall for it.
This guys = Troll
Maybe I'm insane but i see trolls where ever i look. Please give me some vicodan!!!!
mudshark @ 95:
Take that! Korporate Rpublican Media.
You've got nothing to talk about now
Sadly, the wingnuts at TalkLeft don't see this moment as historic.
that was gracious and selfless. Had she consistently conducted her campaign to that standard, it might be her instead of Obama who was being nominated.
And still the propaganda outlets are pushing the OUMA meme, NPR among the notables.
Dhalgren @ 117:
Sadly, I don't see your comment as helpful, or accurate. If you'd bothered to read the thread in question you might've noticed that many saw the roll call as quite historic, just not democratic. Last night's actions made a mockery of the entire primary season: why vote when the votes can be thrown out and the candidate selected by acclimation?
Oh, and by the way, I'm not a Clinton supporter. And I'm voting Democratic in the fall.
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 106:
I know it's not my blog but I would like to go on record in support of the un-banning of Dr. Matt. Thanks.
No way!!!
I meant "No Way" meaning I can't believe Hillary suspended the roll call, not about the Dr. Hussein Matt comment above.
I like French Roast black coffee in the mornings and Guiness stout in the evenings
Does that make me bitter?
Hillary should have taken the VP post. Folks, she will rise up without an election. Watch out!
Pundit Bong Weasel @ 13:
Diebold is working overtime.
fiver @ 77:
So is BO the baby?
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