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Gustav On GOP's Horizon?

Reuters is speculating that, three years after Katrina highlighted Bush's who-gives-a-f*** attitude towards his poorest "subjects" (he was presenting a birthday cake to McCain) and brought the Third World to America, Hurricane Gustav could bring all those memories back just in time for the GOP's convention.

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emoboy44's picture

I guess that prayer for rain came a little late and a little off course.

mudshark's picture

I hope this thing fizzles. But it won't. Gustav does come at a time that is very odd though. GOP= disaster.

John J's picture

Evangelical Christians and "Pray for Rain of biblical proportions" at Invesco Field.

Looks like GOD has the last laugh on the right
Not even Rain but a Hurricane for the GOP

What do the so called Christians say now?

Sharktattoo's picture

I sincerely hope and pray that no one else is hurt or killed by Gustav - but oh, wouldn't it be a neat little twist of fate if Gustav does strike during the GOP convention?

Marc's picture

Isn't it the fundaMentalists who keep thinking hurricanes are god's judgment? Then maybe god is reminding people why we shouldn't vote republican.

Hope Gustav misses LA

Lisa D's picture

Maybe God was confused about which convention he was supposed to send rain for. Here in Denver the forecast is for sunny skies.

Marc @ 5:

Isn't it the fundaMentalists who keep thinking hurricanes are god's judgment? Then maybe god is reminding people why we shouldn't vote republican.

Hope Gustav misses LA

Poetic would be Gustav came right up the fuukin river and smacke the twin cities.,..

liberalNmoderation's picture

I think this is kinda fucked up...schadenfreude even....
Hurricanes are terrible forces of nature that should be wished on no one....using a storm that has already killed at least 22 people in Haiti alone, and who knows how many more if it hits the gulf coast as a political tool....I'm disgusted with C&L and Cernig for doin that.
We are better than that.

oZer's picture

how about we take the high road and hope that the storm fizzles and becomes a non-issue for everyone.

liberalNmoderation's picture

I mean really....am I being too harsh or whatever here? I just think it's fucking despicable.

amcinmi's picture

I truly hope Gustav doesn't cause a lot of devastation wherever it hits, but if, in fact, hurricanes are God's judgement (I personally don't beleive this), the timing is very telling. Alsok this close to the election, will the Bush administration suddenly be active and involved in helping the victims of Gustav, and will people be able to see through the political BS.

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liberalNmoderation @ 8:

I think this is kinda fucked up...schadenfreude even....
Hurricanes are terrible forces of nature that should be wished on no one....using a storm that has already killed at least 22 people in Haiti alone, and who knows how many more if it hits the gulf coast as a political tool....I'm disgusted with C&L and Cernig for doin that.
We are better than that.

Yes, because wishing makes it so, huh? Sorry, no magical thinkers here, except maybe you.

mudshark's picture

Gustav has already killed over 20 people. :(
This is a killer Hurricane.
Gustav is going to explode when he hits warmer water in the Gulf. Reports are that the water temp is at least 85 degrees in the gulf.
Yeah, we need more offshore riggs in the gulf. /

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oZer @ 9:

how about we take the high road and hope that the storm fizzles and becomes a non-issue for everyone.

And it the storm doesn't fizzle you better hope there is a high road to take.

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Bogie @ 12:

liberalNmoderation @ 8:

I think this is kinda fucked up...schadenfreude even....
Hurricanes are terrible forces of nature that should be wished on no one....using a storm that has already killed at least 22 people in Haiti alone, and who knows how many more if it hits the gulf coast as a political tool....I'm disgusted with C&L and Cernig for doin that.
We are better than that.

Yes, because wishing makes it so, huh? Sorry, no magical thinkers here, except maybe you.

How exactly is that "magical" thinking Bogie? [It's magical, in that you made it up. An important part of the commenting policy is that you respect our contributors. Wacky, unfounded accusations like this can and will find you on the outside looking in. Cernig has addressed this downthread. I suggest you consider rethinking this poorly thought out post (#8) and consider apologizing to him and the site-Sitemonitor]

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I hate hurricanes! But I have no control over the weather and for all we all know this thing could take an eastward turn and blow the shit out of south Florida. Having said that, I sure hope whoever it draws a bead on will be able to get the hell out of its way.

Okay, one thing this storm is going to do is suck the air out of the news for the next few days and probably into next week. It's hard for a convention to compete with weather damage news. When all those people were praying for rain, maybe they forgot to tell god where they wanted the rain to fall. He's trying to oblige them without GPS instructions.

So how soon after the storm makes landfall will McCain dispatch Cindy to the gulf coast to assess the humanitarian efforts?

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liberalNmoderation @ 10:

I mean really....am I being too harsh or whatever here? I just think it's fucking despicable.

I seriously doubt anyone here want the storm to hurt anyone.

Some of us are just pointing out how its timing directly highlights the failures of the neocons, and hoping people have learned from those terrible lessons.

BobD's picture

The republican talking point three weeks ago was that Katrina came and went and nary a drop of oil was spilled. Now this reporter said "serious damage to underwater pipes and platforms".

Who is telling the truth? How can we drill if oil's gonna spill? :)

I hope the storm fizzles, but that the oil rig damage story grows legs. Especially if they can show repubs saying "no damage done", and show storm battered rigs in the background. "Nary a drop spilled" and maps of the oil spill floating.

Dr. Wu's picture

Here in Denver the forecast is for sunny skies.

I guess the Jesus-addled wingnuts who have been praying for rain must have an outdated number for the man upstairs.

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Marc @ 5:

Isn't it the fundaMentalists who keep thinking hurricanes are god's judgment? Then maybe god is reminding people why we shouldn't vote republican.

The "Gustav" means "staff of God", btw.

The fundies would have a field day with that if it happened to hit a Gay Pride parade. Come to think of it - it doesn't actually need to happen. You can just make one up and say that it was 'scheduled', like McCain's buddy Hagee did.

Alexdem's picture

whups.. the NAME "gustav" of course.. if you didn't follow.

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Dr. Wu @ 19:

Here in Denver the forecast is for sunny skies.

I guess the Jesus-addled wingnuts who have been praying for rain must have an outdated number for the man upstairs.

Why does God hate and humiliate Republicans so badly ?

Maybe He's saying ... "You dont speak for me !"

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Alexdem @ 20:

Marc @ 5:

Isn't it the fundaMentalists who keep thinking hurricanes are god's judgment? Then maybe god is reminding people why we shouldn't vote republican.

The "Gustav" means "staff of God", btw.

The fundies would have a field day with that if it happened to hit a Gay Pride parade. Come to think of it - it doesn't actually need to happen. You can just make one up and say that it was 'scheduled', like McCain's buddy Hagee did.

HOw would Hagee have umm, known ?

pissed off patricia's picture

I am pretty damned positive no one visiting this site wishes damage or pain on anyone as a result of this storm. But not one person here can do a damned thing to change the storm or its direction. We are simply talking about the coincidence of events, nothing more, nothing less. If this storm were heading directly toward my home, and as poorly as they predicted the path of tropical storm Fay, it eventually could be, I would feel the same way that I do now if there were an unusual coincidence surrounding it.

Sharktattoo's picture

On a completely unrelated note, isn't it interesting how there is very little interest or excitement about McSame's VP pick, as compared to last week and Obama's pick?

alligatorpear's picture

Yeah, but if it does hit, even as a tropical storm, you can bet that the Bush Admin. will fall over themselves making a dramatic effort to send help / aid, with lots of heroic photo ops, thereby promoting the myth that Republicans are the only ones who can protect you.....

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BobD @ 18:

The republican talking point three weeks ago was that Katrina came and went and nary a drop of oil was spilled. Now this reporter said "serious damage to underwater pipes and platforms".

Who is telling the truth? How can we drill if oil's gonna spill? :)

I hope the storm fizzles, but that the oil rig damage story grows legs. Especially if they can show repubs saying "no damage done", and show storm battered rigs in the background. "Nary a drop spilled" and maps of the oil spill floating.

50 billion gallons of crude oil flowing UP the Mississippi and right into Minneapolis/St Paul for a Monday night arrival.

☻Bangkok Bob ☻'s picture

Having been through many Typhoons and Hurricanes (depending on which side of the globe I'm on) I wouldn't wish one on anyone. But i do see the comedy here, Hagee and Falwell both made comments about their angry gods wrath etc etc. So I feel they open the door for us to feel some kind of amusement in that regard, but only for comment sake. I don't think anyone here actually wish's any harm on fellow humans.

☻Bangkok Bob ☻'s picture

alligatorpear @ 26:

Yeah, but if it does hit, even as a tropical storm, you can bet that the Bush Admin. will fall over themselves making a dramatic effort to send help / aid, with lots of heroic photo ops, thereby promoting the myth that Republicans are the only ones who can protect you.....

It's all about the 35 Electoral Votes.

lj's picture

Fema and the rest had better be prepared! The levies are secure. Right? Hurricanes are inevitable. The Bush Administration is in charge of our security. Right? I truly hope that they have done, and will do it right this time.

ashton's picture

Poor things. They are likely scrambling to find a lobbying firm to represent Gustav as we speak.

Hopefully, everyone will be safe this time.

liberalNmoderation's picture

pissed off patricia @ 24:

I am pretty damned positive no one visiting this site wishes damage or pain on anyone as a result of this storm. But not one person here can do a damned thing to change the storm or its direction. We are simply talking about the coincidence of events, nothing more, nothing less. If this storm were heading directly toward my home, and as poorly as they predicted the path of tropical storm Fay, it eventually could be, I would feel the same way that I do now if there were an unusual coincidence surrounding it.

Ok...I didn't think so...I'm just feelin a little irritable this mornin.

mudshark's picture

Hey LibNMod, a little hung over this mornin? Lots of partyin been goin on this week. Especially last night.
me too.ouch.

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Dr. Wu @ 19:

Here in Denver the forecast is for sunny skies.

I guess the Jesus-addled wingnuts who have been praying for rain must have an outdated number for the man upstairs.

God moves in mysterious ways.

Alexdem's picture

pissed off patricia @ 24:

I am pretty damned positive no one visiting this site wishes damage or pain on anyone as a result of this storm. But not one person here can do a damned thing to change the storm or its direction.

No one here, yes. This is a liberal blog. Seems the pray-for-rain wingnuts are of a different opinion.

☻Bangkok Bob ☻'s picture

liberalNmoderation @ 32:

pissed off patricia @ 24:

I am pretty damned positive no one visiting this site wishes damage or pain on anyone as a result of this storm. But not one person here can do a damned thing to change the storm or its direction. We are simply talking about the coincidence of events, nothing more, nothing less. If this storm were heading directly toward my home, and as poorly as they predicted the path of tropical storm Fay, it eventually could be, I would feel the same way that I do now if there were an unusual coincidence surrounding it.

Ok...I didn't think so...I'm just feelin a little irritable this mornin.

SAve it for when john picks joe.

John J's picture

Honestly, i don't wish this harm anyone.
but Katrina was a lesson that we should learn from.

GOP may love this country but blatant disrespect for the American People is outstanding

If Hurricane Gustav can remind us that we can do better for this country, that people today are still being left behind, that the government is not working for us and when a crisis comes along we need action.

It should not be political but when McCain says his pledge that “Never again will a disaster of this nature be handled in the disgraceful way it was handled”.

Americans need a reminder

*McCain Voted Against Emergency Funding Bill, Including $28 Billion for Hurricane Relief

*McCain Voted Against Five Months of Medicaid For Hurricane Katrina Victims For Up To Five Months

*McCain Voted Twice Against Establishing A Commission To Study The Response To Hurricane Katrina

*McCain Opposed Granting Financial Relief To Those Affected By Hurricane Katrina

ckerst's picture

The timing of this storm is almost enough to make me believe in divine intervention. It's a giant reminder to America of how the repugnacans have lead the the most incompetent administration in our nations history.

Mick Piobr's picture

If wishing (or prayer) did any good, then I wish Gustav fizzles. That said, it will be interesting to see how the Repugnican government "handles" another disaster. Is the Louisiana National Guard still in Iraq or Afghanistan or Lower Bum**** Slobovia bringing "democracy" to people who could hardly care less?

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Mick Piobr @ 39:

If wishing (or prayer) did any good, then I wish Gustav fizzles. That said, it will be interesting to see how the Repugnican government "handles" another disaster. Is the Louisiana National Guard still in Iraq or Afghanistan or Lower Bum**** Slobovia bringing "democracy" to people who could hardly care less?

good point mick

emoboy44's picture

liberalNmoderation @ 8:

I think this is kinda fucked up...schadenfreude even....
Hurricanes are terrible forces of nature that should be wished on no one....using a storm that has already killed at least 22 people in Haiti alone, and who knows how many more if it hits the gulf coast as a political tool....I'm disgusted with C&L and Cernig for doin that.
We are better than that.

I agree. We should never hope for rain of biblical proportions. That is truly an evil thing to hope for. At best we can hope it fizzle. It won't. I've been tracking this storm for over a day now. Let's just hope that those that can get out do, and those that can't get help quickly.

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☻Bangkok Bob ☻ @ 40:

Mick Piobr @ 39:

If wishing (or prayer) did any good, then I wish Gustav fizzles. That said, it will be interesting to see how the Repugnican government "handles" another disaster. Is the Louisiana National Guard still in Iraq or Afghanistan or Lower Bum**** Slobovia bringing "democracy" to people who could hardly care less?

good point mick

It pisses me off the our "National" Guard is off in other lands in the first place. Even the name implies they are for guarding OUR nation, not off fighting a war brought on by and inept, ignorant, oil hungry, profiteering couple of madmen (bush and cheney) in the whitehouse.

I have decided to use lower case on all referencing to the present whitehouse administration.

Cernig's picture

liberalNmoderation @ 8,

Where, exactly, do I wish this? I reported exactly what Reuters was saying, as a summary of their video and tied that to the facts of Bush's poor response on Katrina, just as Reuters does itself. No more. Gustav and its possible effect on the GOP convention is newsworthy - Politico has a piece on it today too - and thus worthy of blogging here. However, I was very careful in writing the lede to introduce the video that I didn't fall prey to any hint of "wishing this on the GOP". I strongly object to your insinuation that I did so.

Regards, C

Alexdem's picture

Sharktattoo @ 25:

On a completely unrelated note, isn't it interesting how there is very little interest or excitement about McSame's VP pick, as compared to last week and Obama's pick?

Yes! I also found it interesting how largely positive the reactions to the pick of Biden were.
The McSame pick, OTOH, is almost guaranteed to spark dissent and complaints. (just as the nomination of McCain did)
Who's the party with the unity problem now? (Actually, if you ignore the MSM's invented narrative, they've been the party with the unity problem all along, what with having to disown their own administration, despite some of them still defending it, and the religious right starting to question their loyalty, etc.)

So really, the GOP pick should be the more interesting one, really. It is to me, in a schadenfreude kind of way.

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liberalNmoderation @ 10:

I mean really....am I being too harsh or whatever here? I just think it's fucking despicable.

Your being too harsh or whatever is a matter of opinion. For me, I find it ironic that the republicans and their evangelical supporters called for rain during the DNC and it sounds like they, instead, will be getting the rain by way of a hurricane. None of us here on C&L, or Cernig, want anyone to be hurt... we just see the irony of it all. Perhaps it's too early in the day for your humor to kick in...

Rusty "One House" Shackleford's picture

This is not something to wish for.

As a Mississippi resident who saw first-hand the destruction from Katrina, I'd rather see a McCain presidency than another disaster like that.

McCaint Remember's picture

☻Bangkok Bob ☻ @ 40:

Mick Piobr @ 39:

If wishing (or prayer) did any good, then I wish Gustav fizzles. That said, it will be interesting to see how the Repugnican government "handles" another disaster. Is the Louisiana National Guard still in Iraq or Afghanistan or Lower Bum**** Slobovia bringing "democracy" to people who could hardly care less?

good point mick

The Dems could perhaps hammer this point a little more on the last day they have to convince America that the Republicans are not working for their best interest.

McCaint Remember's picture

two MORE storms on the heels of Gustav as well btw.

liberalNmoderation's picture

right on! @ 45:

liberalNmoderation @ 10:

I mean really....am I being too harsh or whatever here? I just think it's fucking despicable.

Your being too harsh or whatever is a matter of opinion. For me, I find it ironic that the republicans and their evangelical supporters called for rain during the DNC and it sounds like they, instead, will be getting the rain by way of a hurricane. None of us here on C&L, or Cernig, want anyone to be hurt... we just see the irony of it all. Perhaps it's too early in the day for your humor to kick in...

Yeah...you're right...I do need more caffeine...guess I was a weee bit too cynical...or not cynical enough...

liberalNmoderation's picture

McCaint Remember @ 48:

two MORE storms on the heels of Gustav as well btw.

Yeah I know....check the latest...
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/tropical/

RB-Chicago's picture

Karmic bitch-slap....

sassafra's picture

John J @ 3:

Evangelical Christians and "Pray for Rain of biblical proportions" at Invesco Field.

Looks like GOD has the last laugh on the right
Not even Rain but a Hurricane for the GOP

What do the so called Christians say now?

look like either god's or the evangelical's aim is a bit off...or perhaps god isn't a registered republican after all?

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liberalNmoderation @ 15:

Bogie @ 12:

liberalNmoderation @ 8:

I think this is kinda fucked up...schadenfreude even....
Hurricanes are terrible forces of nature that should be wished on no one....using a storm that has already killed at least 22 people in Haiti alone, and who knows how many more if it hits the gulf coast as a political tool....I'm disgusted with C&L and Cernig for doin that.
We are better than that.

Yes, because wishing makes it so, huh? Sorry, no magical thinkers here, except maybe you.

How exactly is that "magical" thinking Bogie?

Wikipedia: "In anthropology, psychology, and cognitive science, magical thinking is nonscientific causal reasoning that often includes such ideas as the ability of the mind to affect the physical world, correlation equaling causation, the law of contagion, the power of symbols, and the meaningfulness of synchronicity."

Schadenfreude, yes. But "wishing" harm doesn't work in the real world.

Nyc Labrets's picture

This is like a real-life, badly written, Michael Crichton novel, inn't?

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, who is slated to speak at the RNC on next Wednesday night, has said that if events demand it he will then cancel his speech. The GOP is all about self-preservation and if it does turn out to be a repeat of Katrina I highly doubt that they will allow themselves to be caught with their pants down, that's typically the purview of Democrats like Bill Clinton and John Edwards.

If anything, if this thing hits, we'll see the GOP bend over backwards to redeem themselves and prove to the world that they learned their lesson the last time, so, given that the American Public has the attention span of a gnat, this could work to their advantage.

If it does hit expect to see weeks of political grand-standing with both sides doing the rolling up their sleeves and getting to work imagery bit.

At least as long as the lights and cameras are on, anyways.

~Nyc

liberalNmoderation's picture

I bet nearly everyone in Florida with a computer has that link in their favorites.

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liberalNmoderation @ 50:

McCaint Remember @ 48:

two MORE storms on the heels of Gustav as well btw.

Yeah I know....check the latest...
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/tropical/

That's why down here we call this Anxiety Season. Those cones of projected paths for storms are my own personal Anxiety Cones

right on!'s picture

Rusty "One House" Shackleford @ 46:

This is not something to wish for.

As a Mississippi resident who saw first-hand the destruction from Katrina, I'd rather see a McCain presidency than another disaster like that.

I don't get that anyone is wishing for this... it's just a reality, as POP has pointed out several times. And a McSame presidency would be one effin' huge disaster in my opinion.

YBNurmal's picture

Parallels and coincidences... Burmese learn from Bush about disaster management and Bush learns from the Burmese how to govern.

Seriously As a Louisiana resident (presently on the shores of Lake Victoria) I am afraid, for my friends, my brother, the dog and her friends and yes the boat and the house. It was a bitch cleaning up last time... Thank God (The Great Cloud Being) for the Hippies who unselfishly responded when the republicans wouldn't.

Peace

Run Barack Run!!!

Cui Bono?

liberalNmoderation @ 54:

I bet nearly everyone in Florida with a computer has that link in their favorites.

Yep, I do.

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pissed off patricia @ 55:

liberalNmoderation @ 50:

McCaint Remember @ 48:

two MORE storms on the heels of Gustav as well btw.

Yeah I know....check the latest...
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/tropical/

That's why down here we call this Anxiety Season. Those cones of projected paths for storms are my own personal Anxiety Cones

Hehehe....in the keys, everyone calls them the Cone of Death.

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liberalNmoderation @ 49:

right on! @ 45:

liberalNmoderation @ 10:

I mean really....am I being too harsh or whatever here? I just think it's fucking despicable.

Your being too harsh or whatever is a matter of opinion. For me, I find it ironic that the republicans and their evangelical supporters called for rain during the DNC and it sounds like they, instead, will be getting the rain by way of a hurricane. None of us here on C&L, or Cernig, want anyone to be hurt... we just see the irony of it all. Perhaps it's too early in the day for your humor to kick in...

Yeah...you're right...I do need more caffeine...guess I was a weee bit too cynical...or not cynical enough...

well whatever, enjoy your coffee!

liberalNmoderation @ 59:

pissed off patricia @ 55:

liberalNmoderation @ 50:

McCaint Remember @ 48:

Yeah I know....check the latest...
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/tropical/

That's why down here we call this Anxiety Season. Those cones of projected paths for storms are my own personal Anxiety Cones

Hehehe....in the keys, everyone calls them the Cone of Death.

YIKES!

cobsjo's picture

TOP MCCAIN ADVISOR: THERE ARE NO UNINSURED AMERICANS

Would someone wake me when it's over?

You can't make this stuff up.

John Goodman, the architect of McMoron's healthcare "plan" had this to say today regarding the news that Texas leads the nation in the number of uninsured.

But the numbers are misleading, said John Goodman, president of the National Center for Policy Analysis, a right-leaning Dallas-based think tank. Mr. Goodman, who helped craft Sen. John McCain's health care policy, said anyone with access to an emergency room effectively has insurance, albeit the government acts as the payer of last resort. (Hospital emergency rooms by law cannot turn away a patient in need of immediate care.)

"So I have a solution. And it will cost not one thin dime," Mr. Goodman said. "The next president of the United States should sign an executive order requiring the Census Bureau to cease and desist from describing any American – even illegal aliens – as uninsured. Instead, the bureau should categorize people according to the likely source of payment should they need care.

"So, there you have it. Voila! Problem solved."

No health crisis in USA

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right on! @ 60:

liberalNmoderation @ 49:

right on! @ 45:

liberalNmoderation @ 10:
Your being too harsh or whatever is a matter of opinion. For me, I find it ironic that the republicans and their evangelical supporters called for rain during the DNC and it sounds like they, instead, will be getting the rain by way of a hurricane. None of us here on C&L, or Cernig, want anyone to be hurt... we just see the irony of it all. Perhaps it's too early in the day for your humor to kick in...

Yeah...you're right...I do need more caffeine...guess I was a weee bit too cynical...or not cynical enough...

well whatever, enjoy your coffee!

hehe..thanks. it is quite tasty...

Floridiot's picture

liberalNmoderation @ 54:

I bet nearly everyone in Florida with a computer has that link in their favorites.

The transplants do (me), the natives could care less.

If Gustav wrecks any oil rigs I think Obama should take up McCains offer and go visit one that is destroyed and make sure to have the oil spill as a backdrop

lj's picture

John J @ 37:

Honestly, i don't wish this harm anyone.
but Katrina was a lesson that we should learn from.

GOP may love this country but blatant disrespect for the American People is outstanding

If Hurricane Gustav can remind us that we can do better for this country, that people today are still being left behind, that the government is not working for us and when a crisis comes along we need action.

It should not be political but when McCain says his pledge that “Never again will a disaster of this nature be handled in the disgraceful way it was handled”.

Americans need a reminder

*McCain Voted Against Emergency Funding Bill, Including $28 Billion for Hurricane Relief

*McCain Voted Against Five Months of Medicaid For Hurricane Katrina Victims For Up To Five Months

*McCain Voted Twice Against Establishing A Commission To Study The Response To Hurricane Katrina

*McCain Opposed Granting Financial Relief To Those Affected By Hurricane Katrina

Again, we are hoping that the horrors of Katrina don't return, but hurricanes are inevitable and everyone knew that it would happen again, and will in the future. If the Bush admin. and FEMA are not prepared after all that has happened in the last few years then all the spinning in the world won't ever save them, since keeping America save is all they have left to talk about.

Ruthless People's picture

The annual big gay event is this weekend in New Orleans, Southern Decadence, the same event John McCain's pastor Hagee referenced when he blamed gay Americans for Katrina http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/23/hagee-katrina-mccain/.

Get ready for the Christo-fascists to start coming out of the woodwork again blaming Americans for tragedy!

Jeffrey Stewart's picture

Echoing the right wing evangelicals, it is God's way of punishing Republicans for their inhumanity!

I have lived in Florida since I was in the third grade. I lived in NY and Philly for a few years and then back to Fla. I was never in an area of Florida hit by a bad hurricane until we moved into this house and so far we have taken three direct hits in the last like four years. Maybe Bobby Jindal could come to my home and do an exorcism to get the hurricane magnet ghosts the hell out of here.

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pissed off patricia @ 61:

liberalNmoderation @ 59:

pissed off patricia @ 55:

liberalNmoderation @ 50:

That's why down here we call this Anxiety Season. Those cones of projected paths for storms are my own personal Anxiety Cones

Hehehe....in the keys, everyone calls them the Cone of Death.

YIKES!

Yeah..well the keys have been VERY lucky for a LONG time....we're waaaaay overdue for a Katrina level Hurricane...it's been 80-90 years since a really bad one has really hit the keys...we've had ALOT of near misses...Katrina rumbled by as Cat 1 hurricane...

bloodclot's picture

Any disaster that plagues the poor, either by design or by natural forces, will only UNITE the republicans.

Another hurricane in New Orleans would only confirm their beliefs that god loves them best.

justabill's picture

What I don't understand is why the Dems aren't hitting McCain and the GOP over the head with Katrina during the DNC. I'm not alone.

Remember Katrina?
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/jstreet/?pid=349402

Here we are with the anniversary of the biggest man-made disaster in U.S. history looming (and dare I say Gustav looming too) and the Dems aren't raising holy hell over John McCain's record on the issue:

# McCain Voted Twice Against Establishing A Commission To Study The Response To Hurricane Katrina. [ 9/14/2005, 2/2/2006]
# McCain Opposed Granting Financial Relief To Those Affected By Hurricane Katrina. [9/15/2005]
# McCain Voted Against Five Months of Medicaid For Hurricane Katrina Victims. [11/3/2005]
# McCain Voted Against Emergency Funding Bill, Including $28 Billion for Hurricane Relief.

Coop's picture

Gustav, eh? That's just wunderbar!

Still, the gops are gonna have a hell of a time burnin' down the reichstag in another pathetic attempt to justify their miserable existence if the joint is a fathom or two south of the Lower Ninth Ward.

They just can't catch a break no matter how hard the sclm tries to keep this alleged Obama-Clinton rift alive.

Gee, that's a shame. Life is so unfair to gop-slime.

Floridiot's picture

No premature evacuating allowed

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Floridiot @ 64:

liberalNmoderation @ 54:

I bet nearly everyone in Florida with a computer has that link in their favorites.

The transplants do (me), the natives could care less.

If Gustav wrecks any oil rigs I think Obama should take up McCains offer and go visit one that is destroyed and make sure to have the oil spill as a backdrop

Maybe some...but alot of natives I know make their living off the sea...and I guaran-damn-tee ya they got that link.
Fay cause quite a few lobstermen to lose their traps.
It doesn't take much wind to cause the waves to drag the traps and bust 'em up...
Between storms and the cost of fuel at the dock (which is ridiculously more expensive than at a gas station) alot are callin it quits for now.

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Nyc Labrets @ 53:

This is like a real-life, badly written, Michael Crichton novel, inn't?

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, who is slated to speak at the RNC on next Wednesday night, has said that if events demand it he will then cancel his speech. The GOP is all about self-preservation and if it does turn out to be a repeat of Katrina I highly doubt that they will allow themselves to be caught with their pants down, that's typically the purview of Democrats like Bill Clinton and John Edwards.

If anything, if this thing hits, we'll see the GOP bend over backwards to redeem themselves and prove to the world that they learned their lesson the last time, so, given that the American Public has the attention span of a gnat, this could work to their advantage.

If it does hit expect to see weeks of political grand-standing with both sides doing the rolling up their sleeves and getting to work imagery bit.

At least as long as the lights and cameras are on, anyways.

~Nyc

Yeah sure... we'll see what they do or don't do, won't we? It's my opinion that the republicans do whatever "looks" good only if it suits them. As for your comment about Clinton and Edwards being caught with their pants down, what a cheap shot... may I remind you of all the republican fucktards like Larry Craig and the numerous ones caught in their own twisted sexually based public scandals? Thought so!

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Has FEMA replaced the formaldehyde trailers yet?

cBc's picture

No worries..we'll just scramble Cindy Lou off on her jet to access things.

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IN A RELATED STORY....
Hurricane Larry Craig is expected to blow through the men's room stall number 5 at the MN GOP Airport Meat-and-Greet before the GOP convention.

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cBc @ 77:

No worries..we'll just scramble Cindy Lou off on her jet to access things.

Just like she did after Katrina? Oh wait, her husband wasn't running for president at that time so there was no need.

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The REPUBLICANS have been a Category 5 storm for 8 years.

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McCaint Remember @ 48:

two MORE storms on the heels of Gustav as well btw.

#50
Yeah I know….check the latest…
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/tropical/

Looks like there is a confirmed tropical depression #8 - to the east of Gustav. It appears there are 3 'oh shit, we need to watch these' weather patterns as well. Two to the east of depression #8 and one to the west of Gustav. That one to the west of Gustav may have the potential to suck some of the wind out of Gustav's sails??? One can hope??

Fay is not quite out of the picture yet either. So, there are currently *6* tropical weather disturbances on the radar at one time. I think that that is the news!!

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oZer @ 9:

how about we take the high road and hope that the storm fizzles and becomes a non-issue for everyone.

The high road only leads to GOP bullshit being flung our way.

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*WARNING - Two Face appears!
We've seen Bush/McCain, now meet Rove/McCain

McCain will be announcing his VP pick. Apparently, his VP choice will be informed today, and announced tomorrow in Ohio at 10 AM.

They plan to leak the choice in the late hours, early morning tomorrow in order to try and squash the coverage of Obama's speech.

My bet right before Obama's speech

POW McCain will get a pass on that swipe from the traditional media.

lmab's picture

I can't wait to see the split screen coverage! Bush/McCain on one half telling their latest lies........Bush /McCain on the other half, eating cake.

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Poor Cindy, first a sprained wrist from an overly eager McLame supporter, then off to those peasants in Georgia to deliver aid and now she may have to go and associate with those low class people in NO. Being the wife of a GOP presidential candidate is "hard work."

I wonder if they might cancel the repub convention due to the storm? bush is supposed to speak at the convention next Monday night.

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pissed off patricia @ 87:

I wonder if they might cancel the repub convention due to the storm? bush is supposed to speak at the convention next Monday night.

oh please oh please make it so... a cancellation in their convention would make me happy too.

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pissed off patricia @ 87:

I wonder if they might cancel the repub convention due to the storm? bush is supposed to speak at the convention next Monday night.

It's in St. Paul, right?

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We've got about 10hrs left to explain to the American people why...

1) We saved Social Security from being privatized and poured into the collapsing financial market and sucked dry.

2) The GOP isnt just distorting the drilling issue THEY ARE LYING, THEY ARE LYING, THEY ARE LYING and doing it at this moment when we need real solutions goes to heart of whats wrong with their party. The K-Street criminals are still in charge of the show

3) Katrina, Katrina, Katrina.

We need to make the BIG arguments that will force them to spend the rest of the election defending themselves.

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right on! @ 88:

pissed off patricia @ 87:

I wonder if they might cancel the repub convention due to the storm? bush is supposed to speak at the convention next Monday night.

oh please oh please make it so... a cancellation in their convention would make me happy too.

Aw come ON!!!
Then we wouldn't get to see the entire GOP make complete buffoons of themselves on the teevee!

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Max H @ 89:

We've got about 10hrs left to explain to the American people why...

1) We saved Social Security from being privatized and poured into the collapsing financial market and sucked dry.

2) The GOP isnt just distorting the drilling issue THEY ARE LYING, THEY ARE LYING, THEY ARE LYING and doing it at this moment when we need real solutions goes to heart of whats wrong with their party. The K-Street criminals are still in charge of the show

3) Katrina, Katrina, Katrina.

We need to make the BIG arguments that will force them to spend the rest of the election defending themselves.

Hells yeah!

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nyc@53 Diaper Davey Vitter and Gannon/Guckert are Democrats!? And are you FAUXNoise??

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WHY does GOD HATE the GOP? ... common folks... this one's a NO BRAINER!

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We need to stop the MSM from protecting McCain, the flip-flopper who would say anything to get elected.

There is a real difference between candidate McCain and the McCain of the past, and nothing emphasizes it more than this interview with Time magazine:

There's a theme that recurs in your books and your speeches, both about putting country first but also about honor. I wonder if you could define honor for us? Read it in my books.

I've read your books. No, I'm not going to define it.

But honor in politics? I defined it in five books. Read my books.

[Your] campaign today is more disciplined, more traditional, more aggressive. From your point of view, why the change?
I will do as much as we possibly can do to provide as much access to the press as possible.

But beyond the press, sir, just in terms of ...
I think we're running a fine campaign, and this is where we are.

Do you miss the old way of doing it?
I don't know what you're talking about.

Really? Come on, Senator.
I'll provide as much access as possible ...

In 2000, after the primaries, you went back to South Carolina to talk about what you felt was a mistake you had made on the Confederate flag. Is there anything so far about this campaign that you wish you could take back or you might revisit when it's over?
[Does not answer.]

Do I know you? [Says with a laugh.]
[Long pause.] I'm very happy with the way our campaign has been conducted, and I am very pleased and humbled to have the nomination of the Republican Party.

You do acknowledge there was a change in the campaign, in the way you had run the campaign?
[Shakes his head.]

You don't acknowledge that? O.K., when your aides came to you and you decided, having been attacked by Barack Obama, to run some of those ads, was there a debate?
The campaign responded as planned.

It's sad, really. At one point John McCain was his own man. And now's he just another politician, a puppet of the kill-or-be-kill political operatives he has hired to win this race for him, reduced to shaking his head silently at questions he once would have had the nerve to answer forthrightly.

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right on! @ 57:

Rusty "One House" Shackleford @ 46:

This is not something to wish for.

As a Mississippi resident who saw first-hand the destruction from Katrina, I'd rather see a McCain presidency than another disaster like that.

I don't get that anyone is wishing for this... it's just a reality, as POP has pointed out several times. And a McSame presidency would be one effin' huge disaster in my opinion.

Agreed. And if Gustav has to happen, it wouldn't be too bad for it to have at least one positive side effect.

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liberalNmoderation @ 8:

I think this is kinda fucked up...schadenfreude even....
Hurricanes are terrible forces of nature that should be wished on no one....using a storm that has already killed at least 22 people in Haiti alone, and who knows how many more if it hits the gulf coast as a political tool....I'm disgusted with C&L and Cernig for doin that.
We are better than that.

I had the same sentiments yesterday and got jumped on for not having a 'sense of humor'
I wouldnt wish being trapped in the attic of your house with the water rising on anyone,
even if they are a complete douchebag.

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fookin repuglitards can't even get a Rain Dance right

incompetence accomplished

I hope they conjure up a tornado next ...

(the repuglitards probably hired a subcontractor for the job, wanna bet they hired one of the Native American tribes that got burned by jack and ralph ???)

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Mick Piobr @ 90:

nyc@53 Diaper Davey Vitter and Gannon/Guckert are Democrats!? And are you FAUXNoise??

Yay Mick!! thanks for adding those idiots' names for me...

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Rusty "One House" Shackleford @ 93:

right on! @ 57:

Rusty "One House" Shackleford @ 46:

This is not something to wish for.

As a Mississippi resident who saw first-hand the destruction from Katrina, I'd rather see a McCain presidency than another disaster like that.

I don't get that anyone is wishing for this... it's just a reality, as POP has pointed out several times. And a McSame presidency would be one effin' huge disaster in my opinion.

Agreed. And if Gustav has to happen, it wouldn't be too bad for it to have at least one positive side effect.

Absolutely true! We can use all the positive side effects we can get...

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Following Gustav, the GOP may also have their convention attention further diverted by Hanna (an new tropical storm predicted to become a hurricaine headed towards the Southeast) around mid-week.

Mother Nature may be planning some retribution for the destructive earth policies that the Repugs have been cheerleading!

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BoilThemInTheirOil @ 98:

Following Gustav, the GOP may also have their convention attention further diverted by Hanna (an new tropical storm predicted to become a hurricaine headed towards the Southeast) around mid-week.

Mother Nature may be planning some retribution for the destructive earth policies that the Repugs have been cheerleading!

Yeah...check this link out...looks like Fla. could get pinched.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/144212.shtml?tswind12...

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earl @ 94:

liberalNmoderation @ 8:

I think this is kinda fucked up...schadenfreude even....
Hurricanes are terrible forces of nature that should be wished on no one....using a storm that has already killed at least 22 people in Haiti alone, and who knows how many more if it hits the gulf coast as a political tool....I'm disgusted with C&L and Cernig for doin that.
We are better than that.

I had the same sentiments yesterday and got jumped on for not having a 'sense of humor'
I wouldnt wish being trapped in the attic of your house with the water rising on anyone,
even if they are a complete douchebag.

Earl, nothin wrong with those sentiments at all...but no one here is actively wishing harm on anyone...

Jobless in California's picture

Will McCain send Cindy here as well?

elmerg's picture

Dobson and his sheeple followers prayed for rain and here in Colorado the skies are sunny and blue!

Guess God has a sense of humor, unlike Focus on the Family...

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_10325168?source=bb

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mudshark @ 13:

Gustav has already killed over 20 people. :(
This is a killer Hurricane.
Gustav is going to explode when he hits warmer water in the Gulf. Reports are that the water temp is at least 85 degrees in the gulf.
Yeah, we need more offshore riggs in the gulf. /

Yes indeed. Even T. Boone Pickens, in his latest "green" commercial starts off by saying "drill, drill, drill". Typical hypocrite.

Now watch the price of oil shoot up b/c of Gustav.

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Dr Acula @ 101:

mudshark @ 13:

Gustav has already killed over 20 people. :(
This is a killer Hurricane.
Gustav is going to explode when he hits warmer water in the Gulf. Reports are that the water temp is at least 85 degrees in the gulf.
Yeah, we need more offshore riggs in the gulf. /

Yes indeed. Even T. Boone Pickens, in his latest "green" commercial starts off by saying "drill, drill, drill". Typical hypocrite.

Now watch the price of oil shoot up b/c of Gustav.

It's already happening.

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Obama will forget to wear an American flag pin to an event and the cable news networks and standard broadcasters will make that into the 24/7 story.

McCain will confuse NOLA with Haiti and then try to brush off the damage and homeless by comparing how rough he had it for 5½ years and Gustav will be completely ignored.

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I was in Germany during Katrina, and you can imagine how difficult it was to explain how an administration cannot take care of their own. The CHimpNCHief had lost most of us after the bullshit WMD, but Katrina was the kicker. I will be in Germany again when this hurricane hits, and I really hope they have learned something. But with the silver spoon in the ass Neocons, it's doubtful.

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goldenjoe @ 103:

Obama will forget to wear an American flag pin to an event and the cable news networks and standard broadcasters will make that into the 24/7 story.

McCain will confuse NOLA with Haiti and then try to brush off the damage and homeless by comparing how rough he had it for 5½ years and Gustav will be completely ignored.

Ya know...the scary thing is...that COULD happen.

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Hey SM...why are my comments awaiting moderation?
Never seen that before...have I been a bad boy? ;)

[I left a love letter to you on an earlier post. As for being a bad boy? I don't know you well enough to make that call. You were rude, though-Sitemonitor]

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Gustav, Hanna... nothing to see here folks... the President says Global Warming is nonesense... move along! If you want to exercise your so-called "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" then you will have to do so DOWN THE ROAD BEHIND THE BARBED WIRE FREE SPEECH ZONE! Move it Grandma or my boot will find yer tookus!

... this message has been brought to you by White House (and I DO mean WHITE) security.....

Kathy's picture

On the weather maps it looks like Gustav & Hannah will merge. Is that possible?

Bruce H.'s picture

I wouldn't mind having the spirits of the Repugs dampened some with high winds and pounding rain! I would be great to find the event only half filled up.

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Kathy @ 106:

On the weather maps it looks like Gustav & Hannah will merge. Is that possible?

Indeed...though the centers of circulation likely wouldn't...but the area with tropical storm force winds will be gettin hammered by two different storms...and the potential for tornadoes will increase dramatically.

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bismarck @ 104:

I was in Germany during Katrina, and you can imagine how difficult it was to explain how an administration cannot take care of their own.

My experience is that you don't need a hurricane to end up having to explain that, though.

An Italian friend of mine had a nice t-shirt. It said "YES, I'm Italian. NO, I didn't vote for Berlusconi" in five languages.
Not a bad idea.

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I was listening to Sirius Left this morning, and I believe it was Tom Hartman who reminded us that the Republican Christian Right had called for the faithful to "pray for rain" during the democratic convention...well...the prayers will be answered, just a little late...heh heh..

Dancer's picture

Oh, samdog, I was about to write (with apologies for how repuglike it would sound) that perhaps if this DOES disrupt the convention we might draw the analogy that GOD is disapproving of the suckers! Cause you just know that would be out there if the reverse were true. Also with all the fuss about the set of tonight's speech and the fluff about his "celebrity" speaking in front of multitude...THIS, this is from many folks who flock to the Crystal Palaces and MEGA CHURCHES of the fundamentals who have more than helped take this country down the wrong road!!! Ironic???

Ruthless People's picture

It was posted her a couple of weeks ago that right wing preacher praying for rain for the Democratic convention now Gustav's is coming just in time for the Republican convention and perhaps sending it's soaking rains towards Minneapolis.

Baby Jesus knows what he's doing!

employed's picture

John J @ 3:

Evangelical Christians and "Pray for Rain of biblical proportions" at Invesco Field.

Looks like GOD has the last laugh on the right
Not even Rain but a Hurricane for the GOP

What do the so called Christians say now?

Apparently still too many gays in New Orleans.

Gort's picture

This got me thinking… the Republicans should have picked New Orleans to host their 2008 Convention. They could have showcased what their administration has done in the last three years to help that city recover from Heck-of-a-job Brownie’s blunders to the rebuilt, vibrant city that New Orleans… now… has… become. Never mind.

Also, what great irony if Bush & Co. had to huddle for shelter in the Super Dome as Gustav bore down on them, and then wait a week in their own filth until the National Guard could rescue them.

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Gort @ 121:

This got me thinking… the Republicans should have picked New Orleans to host their 2008 Convention. They could have showcased what their administration has done in the last three years to help that city recover from Heck-of-a-job Brownie’s blunders to the rebuilt, vibrant city that New Orleans… now… has… become. Never mind.

Also, what great irony if Bush & Co. had to huddle for shelter in the Super Dome as Gustav bore down on them, and then wait a week in their own filth until the National Guard could rescue them.

Klaatu Barada NIKTO!

YY's picture

The GOP brings war in Georgia as a campaign event and the Dems do one better by bringing a hurricane?

je's picture

Didn't they pray for rain during a convention ?!

I guess GOD answer their prayer alright, just not at the moment nor the convention they want it to be.

mudshark's picture

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
Gustav has a friend now, Hanna with two more behind them.
This will show their projected paths. Both west coast and east coast of Florida are going to get blasted.
Good luck Florida. It looks like you're going to need an awful lot.

Shag's picture

Falwell(deceased), Robertson and Hagee, blamed Katrina on decadent behavior in New Orleans. You know, the gays and stuff. It's just karma, baby. What will the Repugs blame this on... they'll think of something for sure. Maybe Obama?

Beth's picture

Thanks to those of you with the decency to hope this misses New Orleans.

Idiots over at Kos have been hyping this thing already. You'll have to pardon this New Orleanian if I don't get on board with the "Yay! Let's sacrifice New Orleans so we can embarrass the GOP!" bullshit.

To all who cheer my city being in danger, all for a few cheap political points, I quote the late, great New Orleans blogger, Ashley Morris, founder of NOLA Sinn Fein (because surely, we are on our own): Fuck you, you fucking fucks.

Jacksonian's picture

Remember the evangelical leader who asked his sheep to pray for rain at Three Mile Stadium for last night's Obama speech? Because, you know, God would be on the GOP's side, right?

So WWJD? Smite New Orleans with a devastating hurricane during the RNC, of course. What better way to remind these phony Christians (Bush & Co.) that we are our brother's keeper. Even when the brother is from the ninth ward.

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