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Boxer Hits McCain's Record As Fighter

MaverickMyth Via Avedon and my colleague Libby Spencer at newshoggers, comes Barbara Boxer's statement on just what McCain - who claimed to be a "fighter" - is really interested in fighting for.

In the 16 years that we have served together in the Senate, I have seen John McCain fight.

I have seen him fight against raising the federal minimum wage 14 times.

I have seen him fight against making sure that women earn equal pay for equal work.

I have seen him fight against a women's right to choose so consistently that he received a zero percent vote rating from pro-choice organizations.

I have seen him fight against helping families gain access to birth control.

I have seen him fight against Social Security, even going so far as to call its current funding system "an absolute disgrace."

And I saw him fight against the new GI Bill of Rights until it became politically untenable for him to do so.

John McCain voted with President Bush 95 percent of the time in 2007 and 100 percent of the time in 2008 -- that's no maverick.

We do have two real fighters for change in this election -- their names are Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

McCain can't run on his record and claim to be any friend of veterans, equal rights or of those earning less than his $5 million threshold for being rich - not at the same time. That's partly why his campaign wants to make this election about personas rather than issues.

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P.D.'s picture

Yeah, some fighter! He wouldn't even sign his own immigration bill! He rolled over to appease the base. Fighter indeed.

Lilybelle's picture

How about that record of being a fighter? How many punches to the head did he take? Beginning stages of dementia?

mudshark's picture

I think Boxer and Clinton should team up and campaign for the ticket together.
give them both barrels.

Limp-Dick Blimpaugh's picture

I think it would be great if the MEDIA would step up and call alzheimer McBush and his inexperienced sidekick on their true, terrible records that really exist.

napu's picture

And yet, millions of women will vote for him and veterans will vote for him. Poor folks and retirees will vote for him. Simply amazing at the sheer ignorance of american public.

P.D.'s picture

Limp@4, That would be the moral thing to do. But the so-called journalists recieve their talking point from Coporate Media, and they so LOVE Repugs. Why pay their fair share of taxes when the unwashed masses foot the bill?

John's picture

New Advert for Obama :

Show this klutz of a guy, going about his day. Spills coffee at breakfast. Trips out the door. Wears odd socks. etc...

And behind him, there's a guy who's following him the whole time, repeating every mistake deliberately.

Finally, when klutz guy number 1 crashes his car (accidentally) and the guy following him does the same, he gets out of the car and says "What the hell, man? What are you doing?"

"I'm just doing what you're doing" says the guy

"Why?" asks the klutz.

Second guy laughs. "Because I'm a maverick."

Camera focus's on coffee stained mess of guy 1 and his busted car.

Voice over : Maverick. It may not mean what you think.

Mike Mid City's picture

McCain is the Manchurian Candidate.

He shouldn't be elected to the highest office in the land until we know everything about his captivity as a POW that Russia, China and Viet Nam.

right on!'s picture

Right on! Get this back on track as often as possible... it IS all about the issues, not the personalities. And for Rick Davis, that walking bag of crap... because you don't seem to get it, let me tell you that neither McSame or Caribou Barbie have great personalities, bubba! Both are out for only what they can get, with no concern for who they step on or over to get their sleazy lying selves ahead. They're pretty much the same people.

right on!'s picture

Lilybelle @ 2:

How about that record of being a fighter? How many punches to the head did he take? Beginning stages of dementia?

not the beginning stages any longer... he's into full-fledged dementia by now.

BrokenArrow's picture

GOOD......NOW STAY ON THESE ISSUES. EVERY COLLEGE CAMPUS IN THIS COUNTRY SHOULD HAVE POSTINGS LIKE THIS ON EVERY BULLETIN BOARD, ON EVERY PUBLIC INFORMATION PLATFORM AVAILABLE.

DO THESE KIDS REALLY WANT MCCRUSTY'S 100 year war? IT'S GOING TO BE ON THEIR BODIES GIVEN UP TO THE CAUSE...........MAYBE THEY SHOULD DISCOVER WHAT THAT CAUSE ACTUALLY IS.

Sorry, for the shouting rant........deep breaths.........deep breaths.

eric's picture

Today on C-SPAN during open phones after Ms. Kaufmann, the rightwing talkradio host who tried to scare up immigration fears, the hostess quoted the Christian Science Monitor to explain polling discrepancies. It read that Democratic voter registration drives are bringing in new voters that pollsters don't count because they count only likely voters, who are those who have voted previously.

eric's picture

We need to push on with the voter drives.

right on!'s picture

Limp-Dick Blimpaugh @ 4:

I think it would be great if the MEDIA would step up and call alzheimer McBush and his inexperienced sidekick on their true, terrible records that really exist.

And failing the MEDIA doing this (their real jobs), then I like the fact that some of the Dems are calling them out... I'd like to see all of the Dems do it, however I'm satisfied that at least several of them are.

Where the hell is Feingold? And Webb?? Why aren't they speaking up?

right on!'s picture

eric @ 12:

Today on C-SPAN during open phones after Ms. Kaufmann, the rightwing talkradio host who tried to scare up immigration fears, the hostess quoted the Christian Science Monitor to explain polling discrepancies. It read that Democratic voter registration drives are bringing in new voters that pollsters don't count because they count only likely voters, who are those who have voted previously.

more republican bull$hit!! Spin... time to counter this with reality.

BobD's picture

Anyone wonder if, since McCain is against equal pay that he picked Palin to save the taxpayers some money? What does Cheney get? Gore? well, lop off 30¢ per $1, and we'll start saving! Then do the same for her speaking gigs! We're talking serious bucks here, all going to the deficit.

What a great man. Thinking of us while thinking of his pecker. I mean when he came back from Vietnam he dumped wife one for a younger woman because he wanted to be "25 not 45". Now he wants to be 45 not 75. Only got eyes for you Sarah.....

John j's picture

McCain's record is a joke. They slam Obama for voting present but what about McCain who doesn't even show up?

Why isn't Obama making McCain's record more of an issue?

rbrooks's picture

THIS IS A KICK ASS AD! JEDREPORT, ARE YOU LISTENING?

1970cs's picture

Great, maybe she should get an interview with Tweety and get this out there. Like she did when she was helping re-elect Lieberman.

ckerst's picture

I would like John McCain to provide evidence that he is not a communist. He was in their control for years and obviously suffers from Stockholm syndrome if not a complete brainwashing.
How else can you account for the fits of temper and his reluctance to discuss his time as a p.o.w.?

moondancer's picture

They've thrown their best shots and are still losing, so its Rove time. They will say anything they want on the stump, and the whisper campaigns are already in operation. Next phase the big money 527s lies. The honor and integrity of this fucking walking tumor is nil. And paired with this christofascist maniac they are much more frightening than bin Laden.

Let's just keep hammering home the point.

John j @ 17:

McCain's record is a joke. They slam Obama for voting present but what about McCain who doesn't even show up?

Why isn't Obama making McCain's record more of an issue?

stop looking on fox for the Obama ads.

John j's picture

McCain is Pro-Pedophile

A new McCain ad deepens the culture wars, and challenges Obama's record on education.

"Obama's one accomplishment: Legislation to teach comprehensive sex education to kindergartners," it says.

Obama's camp hits back hard at a new McCain ad criticizing his support, in the Illinois State Legislature, for sex ed beginning in kindergarten:

“It is shameful and downright perverse for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls – a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn’t define what honor was. Now we know why,” says Obama spokesman Bill Burton in an emailed statement.

lj's picture

Bottom line is how soon are all the Dems going to go aggressive, and attack the age old Republican direct lies, "poor me/they're unfair offense" and a whole collection of transparent Rovian dirty tactics?

My recollection is that Kerry returned the attacks etc. but very late/too late to offset Bush attacks. That and the always looming Diebold/hanging chad "strategy."

By the way, great start Barbara Boxer--California Senator with courage.

sully18's picture

On Social Security,the most successful government program ever,he calls it "an absolute disgrace." He`s not out of touch;his goal for Social Security,investing in the "market" is the absolute disgrace he is planning.The Rethugs want to get their hands on that money(if they haven`t already) and use it for what they think it`s really for--to line their thieving pockets and to further enslave hard working middle class people.He is like Bushco in that he is a sadistic,heartless, megalomaniac.

TakeOurCountryBack's picture

Those Retardlicans........... up is down, black is white.
Here's a look at how Retardlicans see the world.

Many thanks to Mainetalker for this original piece.......

Republican principles:

* If you're a minority and you're selected for a job over more qualified candidates you're a "token hire."
* If you're a conservative and you're selected for a job over more qualified candidates you're a "game changer."

* Black teen pregnancies? A "crisis" in black America .
* White teen pregnancies? A "blessed event."

* If you grow up in Hawaii you're "exotic."
* Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, you're the quintessential "American story."

* Similarly, if you name you kid Barack you're "unpatriotic."
* Name your kid Track, you're "colorful."

* If you're a Democrat and you make a VP pick without fully vetting the individual you're "reckless."
* A Republican who doesn't fully vet is a "maverick."

* If you spend 3 years as a community organizer growing your organization from a staff of 1 to 13 and your budget from $70,000 to $400,000, then become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new African Amerian voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law
professor, then spend nearly 8 more years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, becoming chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, then spend nearly 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of nearly 13 million people, sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you are woefully inexperienced.

* If you spend 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, then spend 20 months as the governor of a state with 650,000 people, then you've got the most executive experience of anyone on either ticket, are the Commander in Chief of the Alaska military and are well qualified to lead the nation should you be called upon to do so because your state is the closest state to Russia.

* If you are a Democratic male candidate who is popular with millions of people you are an "arrogant celebrity."
* If you are a popular Republican female candidate you are "energizing the base."

* If you are a younger male candidate who thinks for himself and makes his own decisions you are "presumptuous."
* If you are an older male candidate who makes last minute decisions you refuse to explain, you are a "shoot from the hip" maverick.

* If you are a candidate with a Harvard law degree you are "an elitist-out of touch" with the real America .
* if you are a legacy (dad and granddad were admirals) graduate of Annapolis , with multiple disciplinary infractions you are a hero.

* If you manage a multi-million dollar nationwide campaign, you are an "empty suit."
* If you are a part time mayor of a town of 7000 people, you are an "experienced executive."

* If you go to a south side Chicago church, your beliefs are "extremist."
* If you believe in creationism and don't believe global warming is man made, you are "strongly principled."

* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.
* If you have been married to the same woman with whom you've been wed to for 19 years and raising 2 beautiful daughters with, you're "risky."

* If you're a black single mother of 4 who waits for 22 hours after her water breaks to seek medical attention, you're an irresponsible parent, endangering the life of your unborn child.
* But if you're a white married mother who waits 22 hours, you're spunky.

* If you're a 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton, the right-wing press calls you "First dog."
* If you're a 17-year old pregnant unwed daughter of a Republican, the right-wing press calls you "beautiful" and "courageous."

* If you kill an endangered species, you're an excellent hunter.
* If you have an abortion, you're a murderer (forget about if it happened while being raped.)

* If you teach abstinence only in sex education, you get teen parents.
* If you teach responsible age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

* If you're a Republican senator who solicits gay sex in an airport bathroom, you get to return to your job in the Senate and are encouraged to run for re-election.
* If you're a Democratic Senator who is out of public office and have an affair, your political career is over and your wife who has terminal cancer is to blame.

Still want to vote Republican?...... Wake Up America!

Shan's picture

“It is shameful and downright perverse for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls – a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn’t define what honor was. Now we know why,” says Obama spokesman Bill Burton in an emailed statement.

Make your statements even simpler than this!

Steve's picture

Where is Jim Webb these days? He needs to be out there, fron and centre, talking about how Mc Cain did NOT support the troops with resepct to Webb's new bill. The Democrats need Webb- who is a tough, straight shooter-to stand up, front and centre.

Sidd's picture

McCain, the bogus maverick
Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:47:56 GMT

Alexander Cockburn
The following is Press TV's exclusive interview with Alexander Cockburn, the founder and editor of Counterpunch magazine, on the day of John McCain's acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota:

Press TV: Tell us a little bit about the heroism of John McCain.

Cockburn: Anyone listening to the convention will have heard the story of his intrepid conduct as an aviator and his great bravery when he was captive of the North Vietnamese. We and others have published several challenges to this story saying in fact that the narrative of McCain facing down his torturers is a lot of nonsense.

Actually McCain was saved by Vietnamese civilians and well cared for after his quite serious accident, descending after bombing civilians from his airplane.

There are allegations by people who shared his captivity that he received extremely favorable treatment and even allegations that he confided information to his captors which enabled them to respond more skillfully to American attacks.

We recently published a piece by the wife of a veteran who was in prison camp at the same time as McCain, challenging the entire story. I do not think actually these stories have got much traction. People are very nervous of challenging McCain's war record. Even people on the liberal side who would have a motive to try and cut down the heroism stuff are very cautious because they think that there would be a backlash.

There was a famous political race where the Republicans were going after a Democrat who was a veteran who lost two or three limbs and they were merciless in abusing this poor man because he was a political opponent.

Press TV: The advisors of John McCain have not come under much scrutiny. Just tell us a little bit about who his advisors are.

Cockburn: His advisors are an appalling bunch of people. I start with Phil Gramm, a former US senator from Texas who is one of his major economics advisors. If any one single person could be blamed for the subprime market disasters which have afflicted ordinary people in America it's Phil Graham because he was the most influential of the US senators who removed regulations which might have curbed the ability of large financial interests to start the subprime crisis going. He was also the Texas senator who made it possible to remove restrictions which prevented people from doing this whole derivatives market which many people see as one of the core sources for financial instability in the capital markets today. If there is one person whom you could actually label as responsible for the present disaster it is Phil Graham.

On the foreign policy side, of course, you have Randy Scheunemann who was one of the leading architects of the attack on Iraq in 2003 and was drawing a lot of money for the Georgian government at the same time as he was drawing money from the McCain campaign.

There are numerable other major corporate interests behind McCain. He has quite tight relationships with the telecommunications industry particularly AT&T.

The main thing about McCain is that this reputation for being a maverick that he's built up is completely bogus. We've pointed this out many times on our website that he would rise up in the Senate and make a magnificent speech opposing earmarks (you go to Washington you want some money for your town or your state and you do some deal and you get the money - Miss Palin did that from Alaska, everybody does it.) Then McCain would give this fervent denunciation of villainy and outrage of an earmark and the special interest and then he'd go and the he'd sit down and vote for them. So it's all a complete bunch of nonsense.

Every now and again you see a black face popping up in this convention giving somehow the impression that there's some kind of diversity. Actually in the whole of that convention which is about 2500 delegates, there are precisely 36 black people; that's 1.5 percent.

The Democratic convention was genuinely diverse. You actually had about 25 percent African Americans. You had about 12 percent Hispanics. Everybody's admitting that this Republican convention is the whitest, oldest convention in Republican memory. But if you look at networks - particularly when they mention Obama, boom!, you see a black face. I must have looked at the same black guy about 150 times. The whole thing is a very very decorous theater. Nothing to do with political reality.

Press TV: John McCain was the chairman of the board of the International Republican Institute. Just tell us a little bit about that organization.

Cockburn: It's one of these endless groups in Washington that are devoted to expanding the American power and corporate influence abroad.

McCain is particularly interested in intervention policy in Latin America as well as the rest of the world. Not to say that there aren't exactly the same interests operating on the Democratic side. One of the more powerful ones, which people do not talk about much, is the National Endowment for Democracy which funds a lot of these interventions which is congressionally funded these days and poured money into Georgia.

When you start turning up the various interest groups, look at the AIPAC (American-Israel Public Affairs Committee), the Israeli lobby organization. One of the very first things that happened to Miss Palin was she was hauled in front of them and they pretty much put her on the spot and said sing for your supper, which of course she duly did.

Press TV: Let's talk a little about your hemisphere. There has been a resurgent independence movement in so many countries such as with Hugo Chavez and others.

Cockburn: After decades of torture and kleptocracy, the situation has adjusted… the weakness of the Bush regime has been very beneficial for these countries because they were so wrapped up in adventures in the Middle East that they let things slip in Latin America.

Obama has made speeches which caused some people on the, I hesitate to say, left, and the more liberal left end of the political spectrum that there might be a change in policy. But obviously the McCain end of it is to see a total reassertion.

The convention is fairly ludicrous. Yesterday we had speech after speech running against Washington and the press. If anyone owns Washington it's the Republicans. The Republicans have owned it for eight years, they've run congress for six of those eight years. They've got seven of nine of the justices on the Supreme Court. So if anyone owns Washington it's the Republicans. It's kind of ludicrous to listen to that and not one single word about what they propose to do about anything. It's a disheveled, pathetic little convention. It reminds me of the Goldwater convention in 1964.

Press TV: McCain said that the US troop presence in Iraq could well last over a century. We know Moqtada al-Sadr has laid down arms as a timetable seems to have been drawn up and, in fact, the Bush administration even talked about it. How do you think Iraq and Afghanistan would view a McCain presidency?

Cockburn: He probably knows as well as anyone that the surge is fairly bogus. I mean, the conditions have changed in Iraq for a whole bunch of reasons including the fact that the whole civil war is effectively over and the Shias have effectively won and Iran basically told Moqtada to cool it… to withdraw his men. In a sense, the Americans and Iran have a common interest in the existing government of Iraq which is clearly being more and more assertive and is now laying down these timetables - troops out of Iraq by 2011. The tactical position of the Iraqi government has changed immeasurably even inside six months. McCain's stuff about a century sounds completely absurd.

Afghanistan is a whole different matter. That's where Obama didn't want to seem like a defeatist because he has this nuanced position on Iraq. He was against the war when he was not in the US Senate. Since he got in the Senate he has voted for money for the war the same as every other senator has, so substantively his position has not meant anything at all.

[Following John McCain's speech]

Cockburn: I think that the courageous interventions by Liz (Houricane, Code Pink) and her comrades did actually throw him off a little bit. I think they broke his momentum. He got thrown off at that point.

I thought in general it was a pretty weak speech. The shape of the speech was weird. It seemed to go backwards and forwards. He ended with the POW stuff at the end. The crowd got a bit confused about the attack on the Republicans which was him cashing in his chips as a maverick.

On the whole, I think it was a tired speech… didn't have much energy in it. He was boosting his own program which I don't think anyone will believe a word of. Both parties are totally committed to drilling and nuclear power. Obama is for nuclear power. There was a lot of fairly crude misrepresentation of Obama's positions which will be the theme of the first debate.

There was a story by the Associated Press this morning which went through Palin's speech and isolated a number of direct distortions of what Obama is actually promising.

I think they are fairly desperate. They haven't got the slightest idea of what to do, so they went for basically the character issue with McCain, a bit of flag-wagging. They are nervous of having him offer himself as a real militarist candidate because people have had eight years of that kind of stuff. They're in a jam. I don't think they will get a huge bounce out of this.

Don't forget that Ron Paul, the libertarian who is actually a Republican, had a huge rally in Saint Paul. If you drive from where I live up to Seattle, Washington… the only signs you see on I-5 are signs for Ron Paul. There is a big scale in the Republican party who are libertarians who do not believe in intervention in foreign wars and who do devoutly believe in the protections offered by the constitution. So there is a lot of disillusionment with the Republican party on that end.

You know the African Americans and Hispanics are going to turn out big time for Obama. Even though CNN did its best how many black and Hispanic faces did you see? Their base is pretty slim and I don't think he really secured the independent vote there although that is his problem.

He could have gone for the red meat and said the Americans are going to face up to the Russians and we're going to go back to the days of the Cold War and stand toe-to-toe with the totalitarian beast and if it means going to nuclear war we'll do it. He couldn't dream of doing that so he said he was for peace. They're kind of caught between the number of stools and I do not think it was at all a convincing performance.

HN/WY/RA/AA

Tequila's picture

I've said it before, but if Barbra Boxer were the female Dem candidate, I would have been more likely to vote for her over Hillary.

ysbaddaden's picture

Well that was short of Boxer.

Why does that picture make me think he's about to say, "I never jest, and don't call me Shirley." (?)

Shan's picture

For example:

“It is shameful and downright perverse a disgrace for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political an attack against a father of two young girls – a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn’t define what honor was. Now we know why,” says Obama spokesman Bill Burton in an emailed statement.

Keep all statements really tight and simply worded!

ysbaddaden's picture

Tequila @ 31:

I've said it before, but if Barbra Boxer were the female Dem candidate, I would have been more likely to vote for her over Hillary.

Sounds kinky

I'd buy that for a dollar.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Take each of those talking points and focus SOLELY on one of them each week.

Hammer it, hammer it, hammer it. Every proxy appearing on a talk show has to be on message.

This isn't hard.

ysbaddaden's picture

BrokenArrow @ 11:

GOOD......NOW STAY ON THESE ISSUES. EVERY COLLEGE CAMPUS IN THIS COUNTRY SHOULD HAVE POSTINGS LIKE THIS ON EVERY BULLETIN BOARD, ON EVERY PUBLIC INFORMATION PLATFORM AVAILABLE.

DO THESE KIDS REALLY WANT MCCRUSTY'S 100 year war? IT'S GOING TO BE ON THEIR BODIES GIVEN UP TO THE CAUSE...........MAYBE THEY SHOULD DISCOVER WHAT THAT CAUSE ACTUALLY IS.

Sorry, for the shouting rant........deep breaths.........deep breaths.

Lamaze method?

lj's picture

TakeOurCountryBack @ 27:

Those Retardlicans........... up is down, black is white.
Here's a look at how Retardlicans see the world.

Many thanks to Mainetalker for this original piece.......

Republican principles:

* If you're a minority and you're selected for a job over more qualified candidates you're a "token hire."
* If you're a conservative and you're selected for a job over more qualified candidates you're a "game changer."

* Black teen pregnancies? A "crisis" in black America .
* White teen pregnancies? A "blessed event."

* If you grow up in Hawaii you're "exotic."
* Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, you're the quintessential "American story."

* Similarly, if you name you kid Barack you're "unpatriotic."
* Name your kid Track, you're "colorful."

* If you're a Democrat and you make a VP pick without fully vetting the individual you're "reckless."
* A Republican who doesn't fully vet is a "maverick."

* If you spend 3 years as a community organizer growing your organization from a staff of 1 to 13 and your budget from $70,000 to $400,000, then become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new African Amerian voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law
professor, then spend nearly 8 more years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, becoming chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, then spend nearly 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of nearly 13 million people, sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you are woefully inexperienced.

* If you spend 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, then spend 20 months as the governor of a state with 650,000 people, then you've got the most executive experience of anyone on either ticket, are the Commander in Chief of the Alaska military and are well qualified to lead the nation should you be called upon to do so because your state is the closest state to Russia.

* If you are a Democratic male candidate who is popular with millions of people you are an "arrogant celebrity."
* If you are a popular Republican female candidate you are "energizing the base."

* If you are a younger male candidate who thinks for himself and makes his own decisions you are "presumptuous."
* If you are an older male candidate who makes last minute decisions you refuse to explain, you are a "shoot from the hip" maverick.

* If you are a candidate with a Harvard law degree you are "an elitist-out of touch" with the real America .
* if you are a legacy (dad and granddad were admirals) graduate of Annapolis , with multiple disciplinary infractions you are a hero.

* If you manage a multi-million dollar nationwide campaign, you are an "empty suit."
* If you are a part time mayor of a town of 7000 people, you are an "experienced executive."

* If you go to a south side Chicago church, your beliefs are "extremist."
* If you believe in creationism and don't believe global warming is man made, you are "strongly principled."

* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.
* If you have been married to the same woman with whom you've been wed to for 19 years and raising 2 beautiful daughters with, you're "risky."

* If you're a black single mother of 4 who waits for 22 hours after her water breaks to seek medical attention, you're an irresponsible parent, endangering the life of your unborn child.
* But if you're a white married mother who waits 22 hours, you're spunky.

* If you're a 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton, the right-wing press calls you "First dog."
* If you're a 17-year old pregnant unwed daughter of a Republican, the right-wing press calls you "beautiful" and "courageous."

* If you kill an endangered species, you're an excellent hunter.
* If you have an abortion, you're a murderer (forget about if it happened while being raped.)

* If you teach abstinence only in sex education, you get teen parents.
* If you teach responsible age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

* If you're a Republican senator who solicits gay sex in an airport bathroom, you get to return to your job in the Senate and are encouraged to run for re-election.
* If you're a Democratic Senator who is out of public office and have an affair, your political career is over and your wife who has terminal cancer is to blame.

Still want to vote Republican?...... Wake Up America!

Thanks! Great post! I'm going to save this and add to it when I can. This should be sent to everyone. Please post again.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

The American public is a two year old, with an attention span almost as long.

Treat them like one, it makes them feel like grownups and feel good about themselves.

Carol's picture

Thats the way to do it Barbara. Show the people what a fighting guy he is

StCyrlyMe2's picture

It is unfortunate the media wants to do to the American people exactly what they have done int the last two elections with this caging crap and all these weak distractions from the issues.

Now we all know their roll in the lead up to the illegal war was in fact as deliberate as Bush's was to start it.

They are never going to call McCain/Calin on their deliberate lies and distortions of truth so we are going to have to do it ourselves, where ever they turn out.

We need to be available armed with our cameras to catch these liars in action

Georgia Democrat's picture

right on! @ 10:

Lilybelle @ 2:

How about that record of being a fighter? How many punches to the head did he take? Beginning stages of dementia?

not the beginning stages any longer... he's into full-fledged dementia by now.

His wife looks disgusted standing behind McAncient and his Alaskan Pricess. Maybe she will put a stop to the farce.

ysbaddaden's picture

Maverick my ass

He's a gelding.

Amitola's picture

It appears from the link that Boxer's atatement was only issued in her website - who's gonna see that???

It would be nice if more prominent Democrats would start speaking out to support the candidates. But, the corporate-owned media either do not report their statements at all, or distort them to the point that they are so diluted that they have no impact. If a Sen. Boxer actually got a "political entertainer" to hold a microphone in front of her while she read this statement, by the time it was aired, all you would see/hear is the first lline >>> "In the 16 years that we have served together in the Senate, I have seen John McCain fight."

This morning on CNN, the woman who does the 9-noon slot showed a clip of Obama from yesterday to get the "analysis" from two "analysts" (or anal-cysts which is a more apt description. They played one line from Obama's talk: "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's till a pig," took it totally our of context, and framed the question about it to insinuate that Obama was referring to Palin and insulting her. Then the analysts went merrily about their merry way decrying Obama.

I also saw a comment when reading down the page on the Avedon link ref. above that was pretty funny:
"What's the difference between Palin and Muslim Fundamentalists? Lipstick??

I try to enlighten everyone I come into contact with every day about the REAL BIAS of the media, and point out examples. I also think it's important to alert family, friends, neighbors, co-worker, whoever you come into contact with in your daily life who may be undecided or leaning to McCAin, that they need to pay very careful attention to the debates - not just to the candidates answers and the audience response, but to the kinds of questions that are asked and how they are framed by the moderator.

As people who are involved/concerned about the outcome of this election as it relates to our near-term future, in particular (we don't need to worry about a generation form now if we don't get through these next 4 years), we should all take every opportunity to counter the massive influence of the MSM on a very personal level. People-to-people.

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Georgia Democrat @ 41:

right on! @ 10:

Lilybelle @ 2:

How about that record of being a fighter? How many punches to the head did he take? Beginning stages of dementia?

not the beginning stages any longer... he's into full-fledged dementia by now.

His wife looks disgusted standing behind McAncient and his Alaskan Pricess. Maybe she will put a stop to the farce.

The American public believes that replacing a self centered, narcissistic simpleton President with a self centered, narcissistic, Alzheimer's laden President is an upgrade.

ysbaddaden's picture

That Snorg tee with a bovine saying "Milk I am your father," makes no sense. Only cows give milk (female), not bulls.

If you get milk from a bull you yankin' on the wrong appendage.

rain's picture

Why do republicans lie so much?

Janet's picture

Change? Seems I've heard something like this before. Hmmm who else hides emails?

Days ago, Mother Jones reported that Governor Sarah Palin's office withheld about 1100 emails in response to an open records act request filed in June and claimed that these emails to and from Palin aides and the governor herself covered confidential and official policy deliberations between Palin and her staffers. But the list (PDF) of the undisclosed emails indicates that many had subject lines suggesting they were not about policy matters. (A series of emails referred to one of Palin's political foes, another set to a well-known Alaskan journalist.) And many of the emails were CC'ed to Todd Palin, the governor's husband, who holds no official position in her administration. On Tuesday, Andrée McLeod, the independent watchdog who filed the original request, submitted an appeal (PDF), asking Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee, to review the decision to keep these emails secret.

Sound familiar?

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rain @ 46:

Why do republicans lie so much?

Why do Alaskan bears wear flak-jackets?

Anais's picture

rain @ 46:

Why do republicans lie so much?

There is no penalty for lying during a campaign. No laws against it, so they do with impunity.
Back to the thread: Barbara Boxer, how can we get you onto the talk shows and each battleground state? You are wonderful!

lj's picture

ysbaddaden @ 48:

rain @ 46:

Why do republicans lie so much?

Why do Alaskan bears wear flak-jackets?

Love it!

Obama is really hitting them. I think this is the way to get back the momentum.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

lj @ 50:

ysbaddaden @ 48:

rain @ 46:

Why do republicans lie so much?

Why do Alaskan bears wear flak-jackets?

Love it!

Obama is really hitting them. I think this is the way to get back the momentum.

Where is this happening?

lj's picture

Liberal AND Proud @ 51:

lj @ 50:

ysbaddaden @ 48:

rain @ 46:

Why do Alaskan bears wear flak-jackets?

Love it!

Obama is really hitting them. I think this is the way to get back the momentum.

Where is this happening?

CNN and MSNBC

Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not!'s picture

There has got to be something that can be done with the great "Day in the Life of Joe Six-pack Conservative" essay. How can this be used to bolster Obama and show McCain/Neocreeps for the frauds they are?

A Day in the Life of Joe Six-Pack Conservative

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joes employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

Its noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great depression. Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.

The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal (FDR) stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, quiche-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to do so.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."

Steve's picture

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
I see Obama is now on tv apologizing for his "lipstick on a pig" remark- even though there was nothing at all to apologize for. It's a pretty familiar phrase, and he was referring to Mc Cain's policies. It had nothing at all to do with Palin. I now officially give up on the Democrats. This election is over. Say hello to president Mc Cain. The Democrats are simply too weak, too spineless, too soft, to even beat literally the most beatable Republican ticket in history.

K. Trout's picture

Vote Against Kakistocracy: Vote AGAINST John McCain.

cmhmd's picture

For Joe Biden:

Experience. Yeah, she's got executive experience.

She fires anyone who disagrees with her, demands those working for her swear loyalty and brooks no dissent. She tries to ban books and hires a Washington DC lobbyist for her town of 7000. She gets 27 million in earmarks for that same small town and leaves it 22 million in debt.

She moves up to Governor and fights for every earmark she can and blames Washington for wasteful spending. She tries to get money for the biggest project made of the finest pork in recent memory, the bridge to nowhere. Then when it becomes a big joke, she takes the money and has the unbelievable chutzpah to tell you she said "No, thanks!"

She's never traveled, knows next to nothing about international affairs, foreign policy, etc. She thinks the solution to the hole her party has dug us into is to keep digging! And she thinks she's ready to lead the nation.

Some of this ring a bell? Sound familiar? This was the leap of faith we took with the Governor of Texas, and it hasn't worked out so well. has it?

Experience? I'll take common sense, thoughtful and rigorous debate and exchange of ideas over THAT kind of experience every time!

Cheers,

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Steve @ 54:

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
I see Obama is now on tv apologizing for his "lipstick on a pig" remark- even though there was nothing at all to apologize for. It's a pretty familiar phrase, and he was referring to Mc Cain's policies. It had nothing at all to do with Palin. I now officially give up on the Democrats. This election is over. Say hello to president Mc Cain. The Democrats are simply too weak, too spineless, too soft, to even beat literally the most beatable Republican ticket in history.

President Palin. I wouldn't be surprised if the wonderfully in good health McCain suddenly dies.

Go back and relook at Lieberman's convention comments regarding McCain's health.

Can O' Whoopass's picture

Barack has Magoo / Snowbilly whipped because they HAVE no issues or platform except "we love what Bush has done for our elitist few and we want more of the same".

So along comes the corporate media and they justify Magoo's stance because they identify that they too are elites and want Cheney's tax scale (10% last year on billions or Walmart's taxes [8%] or Fox News' taxes [none]).

The media resorts to trash reporting, their sales are in the dumpster, they lose their jobs, they become normal working Americans again.

Moral: Don't buy newspapers.

lj's picture

Steve @ 54:

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
I see Obama is now on tv apologizing for his "lipstick on a pig" remark- even though there was nothing at all to apologize for. It's a pretty familiar phrase, and he was referring to Mc Cain's policies. It had nothing at all to do with Palin. I now officially give up on the Democrats. This election is over. Say hello to president Mc Cain. The Democrats are simply too weak, too spineless, too soft, to even beat literally the most beatable Republican ticket in history.

I didn't hear the word apology at all. He said...Enough with this diversion. Let's challenge each other to watch it again. Don't give up.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Are the Dems the designated losers?

Again?

They sure do act like it.

Oh well

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Americans are idiots.

lj's picture

cmhmd @ 56:

For Joe Biden:

Experience. Yeah, she's got executive experience.

She fires anyone who disagrees with her, demands those working for her swear loyalty and brooks no dissent. She tries to ban books and hires a Washington DC lobbyist for her town of 7000. She gets 27 million in earmarks for that same small town and leaves it 22 million in debt.
Good stuff out there this morning.
She moves up to Governor and fights for every earmark she can and blames Washington for wasteful spending. She tries to get money for the biggest project made of the finest pork in recent memory, the bridge to nowhere. Then when it becomes a big joke, she takes the money and has the unbelievable chutzpah to tell you she said "No, thanks!"

She's never traveled, knows next to nothing about international affairs, foreign policy, etc. She thinks the solution to the hole her party has dug us into is to keep digging! And she thinks she's ready to lead the nation.

Some of this ring a bell? Sound familiar? This was the leap of faith we took with the Governor of Texas, and it hasn't worked out so well. has it?

Experience? I'll take common sense, thoughtful and rigorous debate and exchange of ideas over THAT kind of experience every time!

Cheers,

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Liberal AND Proud @ 57:

Steve @ 54:

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
I see Obama is now on tv apologizing for his "lipstick on a pig" remark- even though there was nothing at all to apologize for. It's a pretty familiar phrase, and he was referring to Mc Cain's policies. It had nothing at all to do with Palin. I now officially give up on the Democrats. This election is over. Say hello to president Mc Cain. The Democrats are simply too weak, too spineless, too soft, to even beat literally the most beatable Republican ticket in history.

President Palin. I wouldn't be surprised if the wonderfully in good health McCain suddenly dies.

Go back and relook at Lieberman's convention comments regarding McCain's health.

Then Palin will browbeat Congress into putting through MORE legislation that abuses American workers, MORE pork projects, MORE deregulation...because..."it is what our HERO would have wanted".

Don Rumsfeld hater's picture

My prediction : (1.) Over the next six weeks - the lies, accusations, whining, appropriation of slogans , turning Obama's strengths into his weaknesses, etc. etc. by McCain, Palin and their supporters will get more and more extreme. We ain't seen nothing yet. The rhetoric that'll be flying 6 weeks ago will be jargon that we wouldn't understand now if we could look 6 weeks into the future.
(2.) It'll be 50 /50, 49 / 51..........leading by 2 points leading by one point........up 2, down 2 , up 1 etc. right up until election day .
(3.) The election will come out very close in favor of the Dem candidate just like in 2004 and especially 2000.
(4.) The repugs don't care if they have to explode a nuke in NYC if that's what it takes to win ....so one way or another -it's gonna be McCain/Palin. They'll steal the election. Why not?? Hey, it worked the last two times.
(5.) McCain will escalate the wars. "There'll be more wars my friends" "Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran"
(6.) Within 3 years - he'll have an aneurism in a blood vessel in his brain and die.
(7.) Sarah Palin, who is still trying to figure out how Washington works and trying to figure out the difference between Angola and Angora will become Commander-In-Chief with 3, 4 , or 5 wars raging.
(8.) The Illuminati, Bilderburgers, Rush Limbaugh,Karl Rove, Blackwater, Lobbyists etc. will be telling her "Do this ! Do that ! Do this ! Do that !"
(9.) Miss Pitbull with Lipstick will start to appear to seem like Gomer Pyle, Barney Fife or Forrest Gump.... or Lucy (from 'I LOVE LUCY")
(10.) There'll be terrorism galore on American soil, the economy will collapse, crime rate will soar, food shortages, etc. etc.
..........................................
The USA will become the laughing stock of the world. On line -I read in a Middle East newspaper that in the Arab World- on the TV talk shows - they're laughing at the absurdity of one of the VP candidates running on a social conservative platform yet having an unwed 17 year old daughtter that's preganant.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Anyone want to buy a Global Investment Giant?

Lehman Brothers, in a desperate bid to survive, announced plans Wednesday to sell a majority stake in its prized investment management business and said a sale of the entire company was possible.

Hows ur' pensions and investments doin' pardners?

ysbaddaden's picture

53 Chicken “Hussein” Little - Not! Says: There has got to be something that can be done with the great “Day in the Life of Joe Six-pack Conservative” essay. How can this be used to bolster Obama and show McCain/Neocreeps for the frauds they are?

A Day in the Life of Joe Six-Pack Conservative
_____________________________________________________________

Why does Joe Six-Pack have a beer barrel belly

And Joe Camel's coughing up a lung?

ysbaddaden's picture

64 L.A. Confidential Says: Anyone want to buy a Global Investment Giant?
_______________________________________________________________

Talk about being gigged.

lj's picture

lj @ 62:

cmhmd @ 56:

For Joe Biden:

Experience. Yeah, she's got executive experience.

She fires anyone who disagrees with her, demands those working for her swear loyalty and brooks no dissent. She tries to ban books and hires a Washington DC lobbyist for her town of 7000. She gets 27 million in earmarks for that same small town and leaves it 22 million in debt.
Good stuff out there this morning.
She moves up to Governor and fights for every earmark she can and blames Washington for wasteful spending. She tries to get money for the biggest project made of the finest pork in recent memory, the bridge to nowhere. Then when it becomes a big joke, she takes the money and has the unbelievable chutzpah to tell you she said "No, thanks!"

She's never traveled, knows next to nothing about international affairs, foreign policy, etc. She thinks the solution to the hole her party has dug us into is to keep digging! And she thinks she's ready to lead the nation.

Some of this ring a bell? Sound familiar? This was the leap of faith we took with the Governor of Texas, and it hasn't worked out so well. has it?

Experience? I'll take common sense, thoughtful and rigorous debate and exchange of ideas over THAT kind of experience every time!

Cheers,

My comment got lost. Sorry. Just said that there are some really good comment out there today.

L.A. Confidential's picture

L.A. Confidential @ 64:

Anyone want to buy a Global Investment Giant?

Lehman Brothers, in a desperate bid to survive, announced plans Wednesday to sell a majority stake in its prized investment management business and said a sale of the entire company was possible.

Hows ur' pensions and investments doin' pardners?

"Hey we're all going to learn to kill and field dress moose, squirrels, the neighbors pets, and other stuff don't worry bout it!

cmhmd's picture

Steve @ 54:

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
I see Obama is now on tv apologizing for his "lipstick on a pig" remark- even though there was nothing at all to apologize for. It's a pretty familiar phrase, and he was referring to Mc Cain's policies. It had nothing at all to do with Palin. I now officially give up on the Democrats. This election is over. Say hello to president Mc Cain. The Democrats are simply too weak, too spineless, too soft, to even beat literally the most beatable Republican ticket in history.

If he lets them cry sexism every time they whine, McCain will be borrowing Rudy's dresses to campaign in!

Cheers

Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not!'s picture

Steve @ 54:

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
I see Obama is now on tv apologizing for his "lipstick on a pig" remark- even though there was nothing at all to apologize for. It's a pretty familiar phrase, and he was referring to Mc Cain's policies. It had nothing at all to do with Palin. I now officially give up on the Democrats. This election is over. Say hello to president Mc Cain. The Democrats are simply too weak, too spineless, too soft, to even beat literally the most beatable Republican ticket in history.

Steve, let's look at the campaign as a game of chess. Tell me the move you think Obama should make and I'll tell you the move the Neocreeps will respond with.

I'll make it easy for you by giving you an example. Obama responds to the Palin lies with the passion and fire in his gut we'd all like to see. The neocreeps, backed by a totally complicit MSM, responds by acting astonished and afraid of the "angry black man" who attacks the sweet mother of 5, 2nd runner up of a beauty contest with venom and maliciousness. Once they get Obama branded "as an angry black man" and show his "scary" face in ad after ad, we are basically in a "check" situation, severely limiting any further moves by the Obama camp.

Fun game huh, wanna play? Go ahead, tell me what you think Obama should do?

Steve's picture

In response to:

"I didn’t hear the word apology at all. He said…Enough with this diversion. Let’s challenge each other to watch it again. Don’t give up."

You dont have to hear the word " apology" to know exactly what it was: an apology. Have you ever asked yourself why- after 8 years of Bush, and utter failure in every possible regard- this election is still, even now, too close to call? Why are the Democrats in a dead heat with such utter failures? It is quite telling how the Democrats are neck and neck with the most beatable, incompetent, unqualified Republican ticket in history. This should have been over ages ago. Yet they let Palin dominate the landscape. The Democrats are simply too weak, too spineless, too soft. I've had enough.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

L.A. Confidential @ 64:

Anyone want to buy a Global Investment Giant?

Lehman Brothers, in a desperate bid to survive, announced plans Wednesday to sell a majority stake in its prized investment management business and said a sale of the entire company was possible.

Hows ur' pensions and investments doin' pardners?

This isn't important. We must stop teh gay.

God will take care of our investments. He has a plan.

ysbaddaden's picture

Could you imagine palin coming across this critter?

http://crazyabouttv.com/Images/rockyandbullwinkle.jpg

CMINCA's picture

John j @ 24:

McCain is Pro-Pedophile

A new McCain ad deepens the culture wars, and challenges Obama's record on education.

"Obama's one accomplishment: Legislation to teach comprehensive sex education to kindergartners," it says.

Both Olbermann and Maddow reported that Obama/Biden are "gently" going to allow the 527's to start their ad campaigns. Also, a spokesperson for the Obama campaign spoke out about the most recent "sex education" ad, which was actually child predator/pedophile legislation, and ended with "in a recent inteview, John McCain was unable to provide a definition for the word "honor", I can now see why."

Obama's camp hits back hard at a new McCain ad criticizing his support, in the Illinois State Legislature, for sex ed beginning in kindergarten:

“It is shameful and downright perverse for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls – a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn’t define what honor was. Now we know why,” says Obama spokesman Bill Burton in an emailed statement.

Steve's picture

In response to:

"Fun game huh, wanna play? Go ahead, tell me what you think Obama should do?"

Not act scared- for once. Just once. If they hit him back, you hit them back- harder. And you keep hitting back until it's over. I know, I know: the Democrats want to take the high road. Well, sorry, Ive been down that road before: we traveled down it together with John Kerry. It's a dead end.

HelenWheels's picture

Good on Boxer. I'm such a fan of hers, she's an actual consistent democrat. Rare in these times. The only way Obama/Biden can win is to stay on message. McLame and Caribou Barbie have NO message. They will try to run on fearmongering and bullshit again. Caribou Barbie as distraction might work for awhile but not for very long. That's all they have. Her true self is going to emerge whether she allows interviews or not. That, by the way, could also be her downfall. Avoiding the press makes one look like they are hiding something.

I hope Obama does stay above the fray. And I don't see apologizing for what some (incorrectly as it was) may have deemed a sexist comment. To me that shows class, concern and politeness.

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ysbaddaden @ 45:

That Snorg tee with a bovine saying "Milk I am your father," makes no sense. Only cows give milk (female), not bulls.

If you get milk from a bull you yankin' on the wrong appendage.

.....good way to pick up pasture delegates...............

Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not!'s picture

Steve @ 71:

In response to:

"I didn’t hear the word apology at all. He said…Enough with this diversion. Let’s challenge each other to watch it again. Don’t give up."

You dont have to hear the word " apology" to know exactly what it was: an apology. Have you ever asked yourself why- after 8 years of Bush, and utter failure in every possible regard- this election is still, even now, too close to call? Why are the Democrats in a dead heat with such utter failures? It is quite telling how the Democrats are neck and neck with the most beatable, incompetent, unqualified Republican ticket in history. This should have been over ages ago. Yet they let Palin dominate the landscape. The Democrats are simply too weak, too spineless, too soft. I've had enough.

Steve, I don't know how long you've been posting on this board and because I misinterpreted a posting by LA Confidential a while back I'm going to tread lightly here. That said, me thinks I smell a troll or at least a foolish progressive who is unwilling to appreciate the challenges the Obama camp has to deal with.

There is nothing weak, spineless or soft about Obama. He is smart, savvy, well-disciplined and organized. You've got a problem with a leader with those qualities then go vote for the totally owned and paid for McSame. How about you either change tack or go away. We don't need that kind of drivel here.

lj's picture

Steve @ 71:

In response to:

"I didn’t hear the word apology at all. He said…Enough with this diversion. Let’s challenge each other to watch it again. Don’t give up."

You dont have to hear the word " apology" to know exactly what it was: an apology. Have you ever asked yourself why- after 8 years of Bush, and utter failure in every possible regard- this election is still, even now, too close to call? Why are the Democrats in a dead heat with such utter failures? It is quite telling how the Democrats are neck and neck with the most beatable, incompetent, unqualified Republican ticket in history. This should have been over ages ago. Yet they let Palin dominate the landscape. The Democrats are simply too weak, too spineless, too soft. I've had enough.

I really don't disagree with this point. They do need to attack, and I thought I heard him address their crap forcefully, and Barbara Boxer spoke up too. It's frustrating for sure and the MSM trys to keep it close so we'll watch them and their advertisements for as long as it's close. Watch it again, seriously. I am hoping that the rest of the Dems will step up.

Don Rumsfeld hater's picture

Message # 71 says : "I see Obama is now on tv apologizing for his “lipstick on a pig” remark.."
......................................
Please tell us exactly what he said in his apology as you remember it. I'm very curious!!
Was it : "I'm sorry if my comment was misinterpreted."

or WAS IT : I'm sorry for my poor judgement. I promise from here on out....from this point forward, I will be more respectful.

OR WAS IT : Indeed . I did ,in fact,call Mrs. Palin a 'PIG " and I deeply regret it and I am so very sorry.

WHICH ONE WAS IT ?? I'm dying to know.

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Radically Moderate @ 77:

ysbaddaden @ 45:

That Snorg tee with a bovine saying "Milk I am your father," makes no sense. Only cows give milk (female), not bulls.

If you get milk from a bull you yankin' on the wrong appendage.

.....good way to pick up pasture delegates...............

Don't palin know it...

tezza's picture

This list should be repeated on the campaign trail ad nauseam. And finished off with 'what would you expect from a man that thinks that only those earning over $5 million dollars are rich?' Could he be any more out of touch? McCain isn't 'country first', McCain is 'country club' first, with daylight second, because he sure doesn't care about the middle class who are losing their jobs. He thinks the middle class is having a recession in the mind! Tell that to the bank when they foreclose on your house -- not your 7th or 8th or whatever house you can't even remember that you bought as an investment, your ONLY house. The economy is in a bad way thanks to eight years of Republican rule and McCain -- the guy whose economic policies are no different from Bush and Cheney -- thinks it's a recession of the mind?

We need to turn the economy around, bring jobs back to America, work hard and smart on our energy policies and the environment -- you know 'drill baby drill' is not an energy policy -- fix this mess we've made in Iraq and Afghanistan -- and get our troops home safely. We need to help the poor, the elderly and the sick lead dignified lives -- not derisively mock those who help them.

And get others to attack hard, just like the drag queen Rudy 9ui11ani did at the conference (perhaps with less spittle...):
Perhaps once, a few decades ago, John McCain could have been considered a maverick. You know, he crashed planes, just scraped through navy flight school (unlike his father & grandfather who went on to become admirals), dated exotic dancers and -- by his own admission -- cheated on his first wife a lot. After going to Washington he was a bit of a maverick there as well, making a name for himself by being deeply involved in the Keating 5 corruption scandal. After that, McCain just settled into being a Washington insider, this is a guy who never met a lobbyist he didn't like! McCain is such a maverick these days though, he voted with Bush 95% of the time in 2007 and 100% in 2008. 100%? Even McCain himself -- who has admitted he's no economic genius -- could figure out that he couldn't be any more aligned with the Bush-Cheney administration if he tried.

Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not!'s picture

Steve @ 75:

In response to:

"Fun game huh, wanna play? Go ahead, tell me what you think Obama should do?"

Not act scared- for once. Just once. If they hit him back, you hit them back- harder. And you keep hitting back until it's over. I know, I know: the Democrats want to take the high road. Well, sorry, Ive been down that road before: we traveled down it together with John Kerry. It's a dead end.

Steve, you're not paying attention. If Obama does what you want him to do, the scenario I described kicks in. Obama can't be labeled that way and remain a viable candidate for most of middle America. This may not have been the year for us to have the choice between a woman with the baggage of Hillary or a black man but here we are. That said, you want to be pissed at anybody, get angry at the rest of the Democratic party. Where are all the surrogates kicking serious butt about all the lies of McPalin? Maybe it's a timing issue, maybe they're going to pull out the big guns towards the end when the neocreeps have less time to mount a counterattack.

I don't know, I'm just a stupid farmer, what do I know about campaign strategy. What I do know is what every farmer knows, nothing is certain and nothing counts until the harvest is in. I also know that a negative attitude and a defeatist approach is a sure path to failure cause once you quit you're done. If you're with us Steve, lighten up. If you're not, go the f*ck away.

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Liberal AND Proud @ 72:

L.A. Confidential @ 64:

Anyone want to buy a Global Investment Giant?

Lehman Brothers, in a desperate bid to survive, announced plans Wednesday to sell a majority stake in its prized investment management business and said a sale of the entire company was possible.

Hows ur' pensions and investments doin' pardners?

This isn't important. We must stop teh gay.

God will take care of our investments. He has a plan.

Yes, it is called the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation.
It is where smart companies dump their legacy costs onto the government.
There are 1.3 million Americans stuck in this Socialist bailout of corporations who underfunded, and looted their pension plans and were allowed to walk away from their obligation to their pensioners.

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cmhmd @ 56:

For Joe Biden:

Experience. Yeah, she's got executive experience.

She fires anyone who disagrees with her, demands those working for her swear loyalty and brooks no dissent. She tries to ban books and hires a Washington DC lobbyist for her town of 7000. She gets 27 million in earmarks for that same small town and leaves it 22 million in debt.

She moves up to Governor and fights for every earmark she can and blames Washington for wasteful spending. She tries to get money for the biggest project made of the finest pork in recent memory, the bridge to nowhere. Then when it becomes a big joke, she takes the money and has the unbelievable chutzpah to tell you she said "No, thanks!"

She's never traveled, knows next to nothing about international affairs, foreign policy, etc. She thinks the solution to the hole her party has dug us into is to keep digging! And she thinks she's ready to lead the nation.

Some of this ring a bell? Sound familiar? This was the leap of faith we took with the Governor of Texas, and it hasn't worked out so well. has it?

Experience? I'll take common sense, thoughtful and rigorous debate and exchange of ideas over THAT kind of experience every time!

Cheers,

I notice the email obstructionism noted above, so we have to fit that in there somewhere. ANd now I've heard that the Alask Legislature was whering yellow "Where's Sarah?" pins because she was never in the capitol to do business!

Sound familiar?

Cheers,

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Radically Moderate @ 84:

Liberal AND Proud @ 72:

L.A. Confidential @ 64:

Anyone want to buy a Global Investment Giant?

Lehman Brothers, in a desperate bid to survive, announced plans Wednesday to sell a majority stake in its prized investment management business and said a sale of the entire company was possible.

Hows ur' pensions and investments doin' pardners?

This isn't important. We must stop teh gay.

God will take care of our investments. He has a plan.

Yes, it is called the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation.
It is where smart companies dump their legacy costs onto the government.
There are 1.3 million Americans stuck in this Socialist bailout of corporations who underfunded, and looted their pension plans and were allowed to walk away from their obligation to their pensioners.

Ooooh...you're making my head hurt! I just want the gays to go away.

My investments are safe. The Republicans told me so. We're a rich country. We're the greatest country in the world. Why do you hate America.

USA! USA! USA!

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"That’s partly why his campaign wants to make this election about personas rather than issues."

The shitty this is, the Dem "strategists" will let them do it.

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Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 78:

Steve @ 71:

In response to:

"I didn’t hear the word apology at all. He said…Enough with this diversion. Let’s challenge each other to watch it again. Don’t give up."

You dont have to hear the word " apology" to know exactly what it was: an apology. Have you ever asked yourself why- after 8 years of Bush, and utter failure in every possible regard- this election is still, even now, too close to call? Why are the Democrats in a dead heat with such utter failures? It is quite telling how the Democrats are neck and neck with the most beatable, incompetent, unqualified Republican ticket in history. This should have been over ages ago. Yet they let Palin dominate the landscape. The Democrats are simply too weak, too spineless, too soft. I've had enough.

Steve, I don't know how long you've been posting on this board and because I misinterpreted a posting by LA Confidential a while back I'm going to tread lightly here. That said, me thinks I smell a troll or at least a foolish progressive who is unwilling to appreciate the challenges the Obama camp has to deal with.

There is nothing weak, spineless or soft about Obama. He is smart, savvy, well-disciplined and organized. You've got a problem with a leader with those qualities then go vote for the totally owned and paid for McSame. How about you either change tack or go away. We don't need that kind of drivel here.

Obama possesses qualities not seen in the Republican candidates McCain and Palin: honor, dignity, patience, grace, tenacity, high degree of intelligence. People are so unfamiliar with these qualities in our present leaders that they mistake them for weakness. Obama is not weak. This is not the first piece of shite flung at him. He's been a target for cruelty, bigotry, lowest-common-denominator politics since he threw his hat in the ring. Make a laundry list: Obama is Muslim, he attended a Madrasa, he's an elitist, he's a celebrity, the terrorist fist jab, he's inexperienced, there is a split in the party . . . . I could go on ALL DAY!

I'm sick of this too. The DNC knows it made mistakes with Kerry's campaign. Hell, Dean knows he made the same mistakes with his own campaign (remember, the Dean Scream) and they aren't going to give up at the 11th hour. I'm dismayed, but I'm with Obama. I'm not throwing in the towel. I believe in Obama. I believe in change. Otherwise, face it people, it will be the "Audacity of Hope II" for us.

lj's picture

Here we go. Sarah Palin and another SPEECH TO NOWHERE!

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Liberal AND Proud @ 86:

Radically Moderate @ 84:

Liberal AND Proud @ 72:

L.A. Confidential @ 64:

This isn't important. We must stop teh gay.

God will take care of our investments. He has a plan.

Yes, it is called the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation.
It is where smart companies dump their legacy costs onto the government.
There are 1.3 million Americans stuck in this Socialist bailout of corporations who underfunded, and looted their pension plans and were allowed to walk away from their obligation to their pensioners.

Ooooh...you're making my head hurt! I just want the gays to go away.

My investments are safe. The Republicans told me so. We're a rich country. We're the greatest country in the world. Why do you hate America.

USA! USA! USA!

Feeling more Orwellian by the day, when do you suppose FAUX News will start offering the daily "2 minutes of hate" feature?

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Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 83:

Steve @ 75:

In response to:

"Fun game huh, wanna play? Go ahead, tell me what you think Obama should do?"

Not act scared- for once. Just once. If they hit him back, you hit them back- harder. And you keep hitting back until it's over. I know, I know: the Democrats want to take the high road. Well, sorry, Ive been down that road before: we traveled down it together with John Kerry. It's a dead end.

Steve, you're not paying attention. If Obama does what you want him to do, the scenario I described kicks in. Obama can't be labeled that way and remain a viable candidate for most of middle America. This may not have been the year for us to have the choice between a woman with the baggage of Hillary or a black man but here we are. That said, you want to be pissed at anybody, get angry at the rest of the Democratic party. Where are all the surrogates kicking serious butt about all the lies of McPalin? Maybe it's a timing issue, maybe they're going to pull out the big guns towards the end when the neocreeps have less time to mount a counterattack.

I don't know, I'm just a stupid farmer, what do I know about campaign strategy. What I do know is what every farmer knows, nothing is certain and nothing counts until the harvest is in. I also know that a negative attitude and a defeatist approach is a sure path to failure cause once you quit you're done. If you're with us Steve, lighten up. If you're not, go the f*ck away.

...................................
Ya Steve go the f*ck away.</ I don't want Obama to be framed as the "Angry Black Guy". Obama must be very VERY careful. What he's doing, Steve, is working ! He should go further in that direction.
Here are some suggested phrases I'll send to Obama's campaign office for Barack to use :
1.) John McCain is a war hero. He risked his life for you and me. John McCain was tortured for you and me. He hung tough and we should honor that.
2.) George W Bush is a very positive guy. George W Bush is congenial. He's likable. Same goes for Mr John McCain. I respect them. I like them, but I don't always agree with them.
3.) My running mate Biden has been a close friend of Mr John McCain's for over 30 years and they , Biden and Mr John McCain the war hero ,agree on a lot of things.

Anyone like to add to this list before I send it to Nancy Pelosi for Proof reading ?????

Peter G's picture

Unfortunately he's not running on those issues or any other issues. He's running on Palin, maverick and POW.

CMINCA's picture

This is what Obama said according the the Associated Press:

Obama accuses McCain camp of lies, phony outrage

NORFOLK, Va. - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Wednesday accused Republican John McCain's campaign of using "lies and phony outrage and Swift-boat politics" in claiming he used a sexist comment against vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

Calling it "the latest made-up controversy by the John McCain campaign," Obama responded to the Republicans' charge that he was referring to Palin when he used the phrase "lipstick on a pig" at a campaign stop Tuesday.

"I don't care what they say about me. But I love this country too much to let them take over another election with lies and phony outrage and Swift-boat politics. Enough is enough," he said.

. . . On Tuesday, Obama criticized McCain's economic policies as similar to those of President Bush, saying: "You can put lipstick on a pig ... it's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still going to stink after eight years.". . .

lj's picture

What would Alaska do without MavPalin? Can't wait for the fact check! USA, USA...there must be protesters? That will be the signal from now on USA USA.

Turn your hearing aid back on John she's stopped screeching.

CMINCA's picture

lj @ 94:

What would Alaska do without MavPalin? Can't wait for the fact check! USA, USA...there must be protesters? That will be the signal from now on USA USA.

Turn your hearing aid back on John she's stopped screeching.

No kidding. He looks absolutely pained to be standing on stage with "the screech". Juxtapose that image/expression with the one where he was asked what his views were on contraceptives being covered under health plans. Their are identical.

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Peter G @ 92:

Unfortunately he's not running on those issues or any other issues. He's running on Palin, maverick and POW.

Then we should vote for Batman; he used to be full of POW, WANG, SNORGs.

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CMINCA @ 95:

lj @ 94:

What would Alaska do without MavPalin? Can't wait for the fact check! USA, USA...there must be protesters? That will be the signal from now on USA USA.

Turn your hearing aid back on John she's stopped screeching.

No kidding. He looks absolutely pained to be standing on stage with "the screech". Juxtapose that image/expression with the one where he was asked what his views were on contraceptives being covered under health plans. Their are identical.

Hey, he's a vet (I've heard)

He probably has the clap.

Don Rumsfeld hater's picture

New Series of Jokes : What do you get when you put lipstick on a ____________?
*What do you get when you put lipstick on a Pit Bull?

A : Sarah Palin

*What do you get when you put lipstick on a pig?

A : Sarah Palin

*What do you get when you put lipstick on a sexually promiscuous white Christain high school girl?

A: Bristol Palin

*What do you get when you put lipstick on an old man?

A : Rudy Guilliani

lj's picture

McCain re-speech! Specifics Mac? King of generalities. We are going to save the country, my friends---trust me. Send me your money $19.99 with free extras! as seen on TV.

CMINCA's picture

ysbaddaden @ 97:

CMINCA @ 95:

lj @ 94:

What would Alaska do without MavPalin? Can't wait for the fact check! USA, USA...there must be protesters? That will be the signal from now on USA USA.

Turn your hearing aid back on John she's stopped screeching.

No kidding. He looks absolutely pained to be standing on stage with "the screech". Juxtapose that image/expression with the one where he was asked what his views were on contraceptives being covered under health plans. Their are identical.

Hey, he's a vet (I've heard)

He probably has the clap.

It is the look of a man who has sold his soul and sold his country out to the radical right wing religious end-times nuts. Now that's a m-a-v-e-r-i-c-k.

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I find fault with Boxer's rhetorical style. C'mon kids, we're not going to win any election with that kind of political mumbo jumbo.

Boxer's framing of the issues is all wrong if we want to win. Her current style--a litany of "I have seen him fight"s just plays into Repub framing and the mindset of their easily-manipulated base. All the base will hear is:

a) McCain is a FIGHTER
b) He fights against what LIBERALS want

Boxer's is a Mad-Lib formula for failure:

"John McCain fought against [ Name a Liberal Agenda Item ]".

Scroll back up and look at it. Imagine how much more powerful it would be if Boxer wrote with an active, passionate voice:

"John McCain fought to keep hard-working American families poor."
"John McCain fought to keep American women underpaid, and under house arrest."

Etc.

We don't have to explain and qualify every statement we make until it sounds like the tortured pol-speak that it is. I didn't get attack emails from Repubs saying:

While Senator Barack Obama may say he loves America as much as we do, we must disagree. He has relocated the American flag from the vertical stabilizer of his campaign aircraft to a less prominent location on the fuselage.

They said:

"This guy is Anti-American. A disgrace. He took the American flag off his plane. And here's a photo to prove it."

Lay it out there. Beg the question. Don't get into the details. All that matters is the soundbite. Say "McCain wants to keep American families poor." Be ready with the answer: "this guy has opposed paying Americans a fair minimum wage for 14 years." Don't try to answer the question with the claim. And keep it in the past tense, so you frame McCain as connected with the past rather than the future.

Better yet, Boxer should go on the offensive. Turn the "fighter" into a "loser."

John McCain wants America to lose the war on poverty.
John McCain wants America to lose the war against the tragedy of teen pregnancy.
John McCain even wanted our Veterans to lose their ability to return from Iraq and Afghanistan as heroes. Until he was shamed into supporting them.

Maybe that's too incendiary. But I love the smell of napalm in the morning. What do you think?

--"Am I the only one who thinks that Country First sounds like a failed mortgage broker?"--

CMINCA's picture

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080910/ap_on_el_pr/obama_lipstick

(more from the AP)

Accusing Obama of "smearing" Palin in "offensive and disgraceful" comments, the McCain campaign demanded an apology — though McCain himself used the folksy metaphor a few times last year, including once to describe Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's health care plan.

The McCain campaign on Wednesday issued an Internet ad that said Obama was talking about Palin and said of Obama: "Ready to lead? No. Ready to smear? Yes."

Obama began a discussion of education at a Norfolk high school on Wednesday by assailing McCain's campaign.

"What their campaign has done this morning is the same game that has made people sick and tired of politics in this country. They seize on an innocent remark, try to take it out of context, throw up an outrageous ad because they know that it's catnip for the news media," Obama said.

Obama's campaign has accused the GOP camp of engaging in a "pathetic attempt to play the gender card." In an e-mail to reporters Wednesday, the campaign noted two other instances of McCain using the phrase "lipstick on a pig" and its use by other Republicans such as House Minority Leader John Boehner and Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl.

CMINCA's picture

Don Rumsfeld hater @ 98:

New Series of Jokes : What do you get when you put lipstick on a ____________?
*What do you get when you put lipstick on a Pit Bull?

A : Sarah Palin

*What do you get when you put lipstick on a pig?

A : Sarah Palin

*What do you get when you put lipstick on a sexually promiscuous white Christain high school girl?

A: Bristol Palin

*What do you get when you put lipstick on an old man?

A : Rudy Guilliani

What is the difference between Sarah Palin and angry, ignorant end-times white trailer trash?

A. Lipstick

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Steve @ 71:

In response to:

"I didn’t hear the word apology at all. He said…Enough with this diversion. Let’s challenge each other to watch it again. Don’t give up."

You dont have to hear the word " apology" to know exactly what it was: an apology. Have you ever asked yourself why- after 8 years of Bush, and utter failure in every possible regard- this election is still, even now, too close to call? Why are the Democrats in a dead heat with such utter failures? It is quite telling how the Democrats are neck and neck with the most beatable, incompetent, unqualified Republican ticket in history. This should have been over ages ago. Yet they let Palin dominate the landscape. The Democrats are simply too weak, too spineless, too soft. I've had enough.

Stevie, you need to see a doctor right away! I think you need a refill for your meds.

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GermsChoice @ 101:

I find fault with Boxer's rhetorical style. C'mon kids, we're not going to win any election with that kind of political mumbo jumbo.

Boxer's framing of the issues is all wrong if we want to win. Her current style--a litany of "I have seen him fight"s just plays into Repub framing and the mindset of their easily-manipulated base. All the base will hear is:

a) McCain is a FIGHTER
b) He fights against what LIBERALS want

Boxer's is a Mad-Lib formula for failure:

"John McCain fought against [ Name a Liberal Agenda Item ]".

Scroll back up and look at it. Imagine how much more powerful it would be if Boxer wrote with an active, passionate voice:

"John McCain fought to keep hard-working American families poor."
"John McCain fought to keep American women underpaid, and under house arrest."

Etc.

We don't have to explain and qualify every statement we make until it sounds like the tortured pol-speak that it is. I didn't get attack emails from Repubs saying:

While Senator Barack Obama may say he loves America as much as we do, we must disagree. He has relocated the American flag from the vertical stabilizer of his campaign aircraft to a less prominent location on the fuselage.

They said:

"This guy is Anti-American. A disgrace. He took the American flag off his plane. And here's a photo to prove it."

Lay it out there. Beg the question. Don't get into the details. All that matters is the soundbite. Say "McCain wants to keep American families poor." Be ready with the answer: "this guy has opposed paying Americans a fair minimum wage for 14 years." Don't try to answer the question with the claim. And keep it in the past tense, so you frame McCain as connected with the past rather than the future.

Better yet, Boxer should go on the offensive. Turn the "fighter" into a "loser."

John McCain wants America to lose the war on poverty.
John McCain wants America to lose the war against the tragedy of teen pregnancy.
John McCain even wanted our Veterans to lose their ability to return from Iraq and Afghanistan as heroes. Until he was shamed into supporting them.

Maybe that's too incendiary. But I love the smell of napalm in the morning. What do you think?

--"Am I the only one who thinks that Country First sounds like a failed mortgage broker?"--

What can we do to get you hired by the Obama campaign? You are right on the money!! A chess player after my own heart. I'm going to see about spreading your ideas if you don't mind.

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So does this mean Mad Magazine can no longer reprint the cartoon where a research chemist is putting lipstick, perfume, and other cosmetics on a tied down pig, and then in the last frame marries it?

She must be be pissed:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/OldPetunia.jpg

Later this:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/1669/87892-109455-petunia-pig_large...

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CMINCA @ 103:

Don Rumsfeld hater @ 98:

New Series of Jokes : What do you get when you put lipstick on a ____________?
*What do you get when you put lipstick on a Pit Bull?

A : Sarah Palin

*What do you get when you put lipstick on a pig?

A : Sarah Palin

*What do you get when you put lipstick on a sexually promiscuous white Christain high school girl?

A: Bristol Palin

*What do you get when you put lipstick on an old man?

A : Rudy Guilliani

What is the difference between Sarah Palin and angry, ignorant end-times white trailer trash?

The latter is better read?

Why don't librarians use the slogan, better read than dead?

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Georgia Democrat @ 41:

right on! @ 10:

Lilybelle @ 2:

How about that record of being a fighter? How many punches to the head did he take? Beginning stages of dementia?

not the beginning stages any longer... he's into full-fledged dementia by now.

His wife looks disgusted standing behind McAncient and his Alaskan Pricess. Maybe she will put a stop to the farce.

oh please, please, please... I wish someone would put a stop to this idiocy! Even someone like Cindy, who'd choose to be with a guy who left his first wife in the situation McSame did... what is it with these women thinking they've got such a prize in a guy who does this shit? I'll never understand it!

Nada's picture

Ok so they want to do all they can to pretend that mcstain isn't the pro-war, pro-fascism, pro-shrub candidate.
Do any of these twits realize they've still got nothing to work with?
No one with an IQ over 50 is impressed with this obnoxious, over-stuffed, elitist, half-wit frat boy.
No one wants shrub 2.0.

However the people who own the voting machines and the crooks running the government will do as they please.

shaggles's picture

Good one Barbara. I saw a clip of McCain at a campaign rally this morning and he said "Yes. We're mavericks." to the cheering crowd. I just about hurled. McCain is not and has never been a maverick. He always does the politically expedient thing. A Dem would be called a panderer. The reason he's reputed to be a maverick is because he goes around telling people he's a maverick.

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Georgia Democrat @ 41:

right on! @ 10:

Lilybelle @ 2:

How about that record of being a fighter? How many punches to the head did he take? Beginning stages of dementia?

not the beginning stages any longer... he's into full-fledged dementia by now.

His wife looks disgusted standing behind McAncient and his Alaskan Pricess. Maybe she will put a stop to the farce.

........................................................
No ! Wait a minute ! ! Don't you dare say anything bad about Cindy McCain's looks !!!! She's hot !! Sarah Palin is hot ! These ladies must have caused heart attacks when they were in their 20s. They're still hot. That being said - under their surface beauty , under their physical beauty -- I think they are slimy snake like monsters like in those alien horror movies.

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lj @ 52:

Liberal AND Proud @ 51:

lj @ 50:

ysbaddaden @ 48:
Love it!

Obama is really hitting them. I think this is the way to get back the momentum.

Where is this happening?

CNN and MSNBC

Right on!!! Hit those lying ba$tards (mcsame and caribou barbie) and hit 'em hard!!!!

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ysbaddaden @ 73:

Could you imagine palin coming across this critter?

http://crazyabouttv.com/Images/rockyandbullwinkle.jpg

Yep... it's crossed my mind numerous times that McSame/Caribou Barbie = Boris Badenov (sp?) and Natasha from the venerable Moose and Squirrel cartoon you link to.

ysbaddaden's picture

On that book cover is mcgramps trying to appear thoughtful

Or seriously, seriously drugged?

Seriously.

lj's picture

If McCain believes that being ornery and hot headed and uncooperative and unpleasant, even to one's own, is a sign of being a maverick, then he's a MAVERICK. His "sidekick" Pistol Palin can claim the same as more and more of her personality is being vetted.

.

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dosido @ 117:

eric @ 13:

We need to push on with the voter drives.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/09/hillary_clinton_sarah_palin_a.html

This comment is a mistake and was submitted by accident. Sorry!! If mods have moment, clean up aisle 117. thx.

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Peter G @ 92:

Unfortunately he's not running on those issues or any other issues. He's running on Palin, maverick and POW.

and don't forget the scars... he's runnin' on those too, that shithead!

dosido's picture

eric @ 13:

We need to push on with the voter drives.

This is my public service announcement.

1. please register to vote!
and
2. Please verify your voter status before mid October! You can do so here:
http://www.votesmart.org/voter_registration_resources.php

Get Your Voting Power! Use Your Voting Power! Don't take no from imposters and cheaters.

Shan's picture

Destroy all monsters!

Shan's picture

I'm not worried yet.

Currently according to the most recent state polls (at electoral-vote.com), Ohio, Indiana, Virginia, North Dakota, Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada are very close and are in play.

Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire and Washington also need to be defended but there's still a whole stack of states that were deep into the red in 2004 which could be won.

So, they need to work hard to win it, they can still do it. Getting +5% in all of those states might be enough to override the voting fraud.

I don't know what's worse, the right wing and their sclm/msm noise machine or the "progressives" who bash Obama, (WHO HAS BEATEN EVERYONE SO FAR - HIS OWN WAY!) for not doing what they want him to do.

maybe we should learn from the repugs - think whatever you want but don't forget the mission.

Shan's picture

Oh yes, Florida is a split decision on the last poll. I don't know how I missed that one.

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GermsChoice @ 101: Said,
I find fault with Boxer’s rhetorical style. C’mon kids, we’re not going to win any election with that kind of political mumbo jumbo.

Boxer’s framing of the issues is all wrong if we want to win. Her current style–a litany of “I have seen him fight”s just plays into Repub framing and the mindset of their easily-manipulated base. All the base will hear is:

a) McCain is a FIGHTER
b) He fights against what LIBERALS want

Boxer’s is a Mad-Lib formula for failure:

“John McCain fought against [ Name a Liberal Agenda Item ]”.

Scroll back up and look at it. Imagine how much more powerful it would be if Boxer wrote with an active, passionate voice:

“John McCain fought to keep hard-working American families poor.”
“John McCain fought to keep American women underpaid, and under house arrest.”

Etc.

We don’t have to explain and qualify every statement we make until it sounds like the tortured pol-speak that it is. I didn’t get attack emails from Repubs saying:

While Senator Barack Obama may say he loves America as much as we do, we must disagree. He has relocated the American flag from the vertical stabilizer of his campaign aircraft to a less prominent location on the fuselage.

They said:

“This guy is Anti-American. A disgrace. He took the American flag off his plane. And here’s a photo to prove it.”

Lay it out there. Beg the question. Don’t get into the details. All that matters is the soundbite. Say “McCain wants to keep American families poor.” Be ready with the answer: “this guy has opposed paying Americans a fair minimum wage for 14 years.” Don’t try to answer the question with the claim. And keep it in the past tense, so you frame McCain as connected with the past rather than the future.

Better yet, Boxer should go on the offensive. Turn the “fighter” into a “loser.”

John McCain wants America to lose the war on poverty.
John McCain wants America to lose the war against the tragedy of teen pregnancy.
John McCain even wanted our Veterans to lose their ability to return from Iraq and Afghanistan as heroes. Until he was shamed into supporting them.

Maybe that’s too incendiary. But I love the smell of napalm in the morning. What do you think?

–“Am I the only one who thinks that Country First sounds like a failed mortgage broker?”–

Absolutely Brilliant!
You should seriously forward that post to the Obama campaign.

Dems need to stop being paralyzed with fear of being too mean and start showing the repuglicans in this country that they can slug it out in the trenches if need be!
They certainly won't respect Obama if he doesn't stand up for himself.

BTW that goes double for the pussified Democratic congressional leadership.
Wake UP!!

Steve's picture

In response to:

Steve, I don’t know how long you’ve been posting on this board and because I misinterpreted a posting by LA Confidential a while back I’m going to tread lightly here. That said, me thinks I smell a troll or at least a foolish progressive who is unwilling to appreciate the challenges the Obama camp has to deal with.

There is nothing weak, spineless or soft about Obama. He is smart, savvy, well-disciplined and organized. You’ve got a problem with a leader with those qualities then go vote for the totally owned and paid for McSame. How about you either change tack or go away. We don’t need that kind of drivel here.

Such utter nonsense. Your response is exactly why I am sick of the Democrats. And no, its not either or: I do NOT support John Mc Cain and the Republican incompetents. When will Democrats understand that when you fight, you fight to win rather than playing the game scared, not to lose? When will they realize that criticism of ones own party does not mean you automatically support the other side? Sorry, Kerry was also smart, savvy well disciplined and organized- and lost to one of the biggest buffoons of the century. Those qualities are irrelevent when you take the so called " high road". And you didnt answer my previous question, which gets at the heart of the matter: why is the race neck and neck given the utter in competentcy of the Republicans and the wekaest ticket in history?

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Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 105:

GermsChoice @ 101:

I find fault with Boxer's rhetorical style. C'mon kids, we're not going to win any election with that kind of political mumbo jumbo.

Boxer's framing of the issues is all wrong if we want to win. Her current style--a litany of "I have seen him fight"s just plays into Repub framing and the mindset of their easily-manipulated base. All the base will hear is:

a) McCain is a FIGHTER
b) He fights against what LIBERALS want

Boxer's is a Mad-Lib formula for failure:

"John McCain fought against [ Name a Liberal Agenda Item ]".

Scroll back up and look at it. Imagine how much more powerful it would be if Boxer wrote with an active, passionate voice:

"John McCain fought to keep hard-working American families poor."
"John McCain fought to keep American women underpaid, and under house arrest."

Etc.

We don't have to explain and qualify every statement we make until it sounds like the tortured pol-speak that it is. I didn't get attack emails from Repubs saying:

While Senator Barack Obama may say he loves America as much as we do, we must disagree. He has relocated the American flag from the vertical stabilizer of his campaign aircraft to a less prominent location on the fuselage.

They said:

"This guy is Anti-American. A disgrace. He took the American flag off his plane. And here's a photo to prove it."

Lay it out there. Beg the question. Don't get into the details. All that matters is the soundbite. Say "McCain wants to keep American families poor." Be ready with the answer: "this guy has opposed paying Americans a fair minimum wage for 14 years." Don't try to answer the question with the claim. And keep it in the past tense, so you frame McCain as connected with the past rather than the future.

Better yet, Boxer should go on the offensive. Turn the "fighter" into a "loser."

John McCain wants America to lose the war on poverty.
John McCain wants America to lose the war against the tragedy of teen pregnancy.
John McCain even wanted our Veterans to lose their ability to return from Iraq and Afghanistan as heroes. Until he was shamed into supporting them.

Maybe that's too incendiary. But I love the smell of napalm in the morning. What do you think?

--"Am I the only one who thinks that Country First sounds like a failed mortgage broker?"--

What can we do to get you hired by the Obama campaign? You are right on the money!! A chess player after my own heart. I'm going to see about spreading your ideas if you don't mind.

I would be happy to do this work. I you can establish a connection with the campaign, let's roll!

calibpatriot's picture

napu @ 5:

And yet, millions of women will vote for him and veterans will vote for him. Poor folks and retirees will vote for him. Simply amazing at the sheer ignorance of american public.

Right after the 2004 "election" the London Mirror had a headline reading: "How can 59,054,087 people be so dumb?". I often wonder, myself, why so many Americans vote without showing the least bit of concern for their or their family's own interests.

dc's picture

Lou Dobbs is going to have a "Border Fest" right now with radio right-wingers.
Drinking game anyone????

Martee's picture

Hit 'em HARD! Get off the defensive! The problem with responding to their LIES is that you have to keep repeating it to refute it. Hear "Maverick" and "McCain" a few more times. Don't do their work for them. We don't have to lie -- THEY REALLY ARE THAT BAD!!

jaja's picture

mccain/palin are going to give your grandma's social security check to Enron! what...? enron's defunct? i know-but enron is a code word for yo ass...ain't it? that should kick-start a few brain cells.

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Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 53:

There has got to be something that can be done with the great "Day in the Life of Joe Six-pack Conservative" essay. How can this be used to bolster Obama and show McCain/Neocreeps for the frauds they are?

A Day in the Life of Joe Six-Pack Conservative

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joes employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

Its noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great depression. Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.

The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal (FDR) stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, quiche-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to do so.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."

That's a keeper! Great one! I love it!

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

This has "527" ad for Obama written all over it.

Kgprophet's picture

I have seen John McCain fight to keep Martin Luther King Jr. day from being a holiday.

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