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Presidential Debate Open Thread

The first Presidential Debate is supposedly tonight at 9 Eastern on the usual outlets. We'll be posting clips this evening as available. While we certainly do not condone excessive drinking, The Seminal has created the Presidential Debate Drinking Game:

Every time John McCain mentions his POW experience, praise his courage and drink a kamikaze. This one is only for the heavy drinkers.

Every time Obama says "change" everyone has to switch seats and drink the other person's drink of choice.

Every time John McCain tries to associate Barack Obama with an unsavory character, take a sip of your dirty martini.

Every time someone says bailout you have to finish your drink and pour another.

Every time John McCain says "my friends", spit out your drink and shout "I am not your friend" at the television.

Every time "evil", "evil doers", or anything with evil is mentioned, drink a sip of French red wine. Read on...

Wonkette has another hilarious take on a drinking game. Let us know what catches your eyes and ears...

Debate Open Thread below.

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nin-mofo's picture

Frist!

L.A. Confidential's picture

Excitement is overwhelming

Orangutan.'s picture

Let's get it on...

L.A. Confidential's picture

Notice how alive the crowd is

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhh

xoites defends Constitution's picture

Word is now that the McCain Campaign is going to say he was too tired from rushing to the aid of the country to have done well in the debate tonight.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Jim Lehrer for President!!

I posted this elsewhere, it might rightfully be deleted but here it is.

Here is my prediction for the debate:

Obama will say we need to withdraw troops from Iraq and send them to Afghanistan.

McCain will say the same thing.

Obama will say the surge has succeeded.

McCain will say the same thing.

Obama will say that the phone companies needed immunity.

McCain will say the same thing.

Obama will say there must be an embargo of Iran.

McCain will say the same thing.

Obama will say he is against a single payer health care program.

McCain will say the same thing.

Obama will say that offshore drilling should be part of the energy mix.

McCain will say the same thing.

Obama will say the Iranian Revolutionary Guard is a terrorist organization.

McCain will say the same thing.

Obama will say Iran is a grave threat.

McCain will say the same thing.

Obama will say we must increase the size of our military.

McCain will have a brain phart and say that we must cut our obscenely bloated Military budget in half.

A trap door will open, McCain will fall through it and never be seen again.

Obama wins the election by default.

L.A. Confidential's picture

No cheers, no applause, no breathing, thinking.

The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein's picture

Jesus. I'm on pins and needles, as I said in the previous thread. :(

L.A. Confidential's picture

Liberal AND Proud @ 6:

Jim Lehrer for President!!

Oh please spare me

xoites defends Constitution's picture

Liberal AND Proud @ 6:

Jim Lehrer for President!!

I think you mean Tom in which case i agree. :)

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

Good evening folks

sooth Hussein sayer's picture

Am I shallow because I am happy Obama is taller?

Kanan's picture

and away we go.....

IdiotShrub's picture

Game on!

xoites defends Constitution's picture

And McCain has no proposals whatsoever...

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

Did mccain have a clowns mask on?

outtheoffice's picture

Obama sounding good so far....................

swampfox's picture

700billions potentialy a lot of money?

The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein's picture

He mentioned Kennedy. OMG.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

"Sad note, but thank you all. I have nothing to say and i have to fill up as much time as i can in the next two minutes..."

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

he's feeling better because he ghas been drinking

Kaz's picture

McCain is working toward taking credit for something.. I can feel it...

The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein's picture

He's doing that uniter business.

Kanan's picture

did gramps forget the question?

xoites defends Constitution's picture

And they told him to go away. LOL

Bill S. Preston Esq.'s picture

Whoa, whats with this great uniter opening speech?

snoozer's picture

Ooh, Obama missed an opportunity -- *he* should have mentioned Ted Kennedy.

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

was that a melanoma cough?

Dracho's picture

Obama looks a little stiff. Does not look good.

The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein's picture

He's blinking and not looking into the camera. Anyone noticing this?

outtheoffice's picture

IS it me or does McCain sound like Mr. Snuffaluffagus

No. 44's picture

McCain wins first Q.

Boooo.

Howard Beale is My Muse's picture

Interesting that McCain is talking rhetorically about the great platonic remedy to this fiscal crisis--I thought he authored the damn thing singlehandedly (on his Blackberry). . .

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

speak up obama!!!

maru's picture

McCain's smirking too much. Will we hear about that from the pundits??

Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not!'s picture

Ooooops....Johnny's getting flustered. Could be a fun ending to this bore fest.

cw's picture

nice point about kissinger

snoozer's picture

majicman @ 332:

I'm surprised being a POW hasn't been mentioned yet.

I'm sure he'll play the card when he needs to -- the time hasn't been right yet.

Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1's picture

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WHO'S THE IAEA???

Why won't EITHER cite the standards the IAEA...?

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Bill S. Preston Esq.'s picture

Haha, is McCain drawing in a coloring book?

Take him to the house!

Liberal AND Proud's picture

McCain has played to the lowest common denominator which means the majority of the American people.

So...if the American people vote for McCain...then they better not whine when they're kids get shipped off to die.

Howard Beale is My Muse's picture

Laugh it up, McCain. You're like the slow witted bully who can't think of a cutting reply when you're slapped down so you just GIGGLE with lots of spray and invective.

galmud's picture

Funny thought: Imagine Sarah Palin in a debate on this level

maru's picture

Smirk... eye twitch... smirk...

Alexdem's picture

Obama's sounding good here. Common-sensical.

The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein's picture

Obama is finally kicking in. Thank God.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 358:

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WHO'S THE IAEA???

Why won't EITHER cite the standards the IAEA...?

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International Atomic Energy something or other.

Alexdem's picture

SPAIN.. LOL

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

Spain hehehehehhe

Mcmelonoma is going to stroke out.

snoozer's picture

Ohhh and Obama plays the Spain card.

McCain comes back with a "seal" joke.

maru's picture

Oooh, lousy "joke" by McC

galmud's picture

Great bring up Spain! Repeat it again. Spain is a NATO allied for f** sake!

pinkobait's picture

what the senator doesn't understand is that I'm not wearing any pants

xoites defends Constitution's picture

So now McCain is trying to tell us what Obama just said, even though he did not say what he is claiming.

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

McOldman is dangerous

galmud's picture

McCain and Palin has the exact same talking points "Iran calls Israel a stinking corpse" "We dont want a second holocaust"

maru's picture

3 inches taller...!!!

Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not!'s picture

snoozer @ 369:

Ohhh and Obama plays the Spain card.

McCain comes back with a "seal" joke.

nobody laughed

Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1's picture

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Three inches matter to McShrimppy...

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Howard Beale is My Muse's picture

Wouldn't it be great if, after the debate, instead of shaking his hand Obama kicked McCain right in the taint? What? Is that wrong?

outtheoffice's picture

Ronald Reagan yet again.................John he is not going to save you..........

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

YOU ARE A LIAR OLD MAN!!

AlphaMack's picture

Drink up!!!

maru's picture

Three inches taller?!?!?!

C'mon, Obama, kick some ass.

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

He is losing it!!!

xoites defends Constitution's picture

The Cuban Missile Crisis was solved with back channel agreements.

And McCain is a liar.

Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 366:

Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 358:

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WHO'S THE IAEA???

Why won't EITHER cite the standards the IAEA...?

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International Atomic Energy something or other.

... Yep, America never listens to them...

mlh's picture

I can't believe obama is letting Mccain get away with that bs about the sitdown with Iran.

maru's picture

Russia... they're RIGHT NEXT DOOR!!

Chuck's picture

McCain SCORES n kissinger!

nin-mofo's picture

Actually Kennedy has been released from the hospital.

StirFry's picture

* Everytime McCain does that creepy grin take a hit from your "water pipe" (bowl filled with completely legal American made tobacco, of course )

Anonymous's picture

McCain.....epic fail.....row row fight the powah

Mike's picture

Here it comes.....How did we get here?

The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein's picture

With the blinking, I meant McCain.

Bill S. Preston Esq.'s picture

The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 23:

He's doing that uniter business.

Jinx

UT's picture

15 - Love Obama

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

speak up obama!!!
mccain sounds so old

xoites defends Constitution's picture

Normandy Invasion time. Was Ike like McCain a POW? Or is he going to resign?

Kaz's picture

are we supposed to drink every time McCain coughs?

galmud's picture

The only thing I drink is coffee to keep me awake when McCain speaks

The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein's picture

OMG. He's using anecdotes instead of having a concrete plan.

Obama has to relax just a little bit.

nin-mofo's picture

Bottom line: Obama is looking more Presidential as the debate moves on, McCain is not.

galmud's picture

McCain will brag about how he knows the Georgian president now

maru's picture

McCain: my VP, who deals with Putin's head looking into her back yard every day...

pinkobait's picture

Obama has to address this belittling sneering attitude that McCain is indulging in.

Chuck's picture

Obama is not winning over and Repubs tonight.

maru's picture

Soul!

AlphaMack's picture

Here we go with the Russian 'aggression' lies again.

galmud's picture

Georgia attacked first you lying fool

Porky Pine's picture

Bomb Russia!

pinkobait's picture

McCain is completely on the attack-Obama is being too fair and polite.

sparky's picture

don't talk to me like i'm 5 years old

maru's picture

Same old KGB joke. Flat.

Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1's picture

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What's an OIL WAR?
Who suffers for the greedy?

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Marvin's picture

ack dem in jad

galmud's picture

pinkobait @ 393:

Obama has to address this belittling sneering attitude that McCain is indulging in.

Yep. He says "Obama doesnt understand" all the time when he really is talking about policy differences. Obama should call him out

majicman's picture

maru @ 370:

Oooh, lousy "joke" by McC

Up until that joke, the audience had done what they were told to do...not laugh. They seem to come to lfe with it. It made me walk out of the room.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

pinkobait @ 399:

McCain is completely on the attack-Obama is being too fair and polite.

Obama is polite by nature and i don't want him to stray from what he knows.

roooth's picture

Did I mention my record collection?

My friend Alexander and I used to spin a few...

maru's picture

Damn Rooskis... bomb 'em... I was there, dammit. Effing clouds...

JL's picture

nin-mofo @ 390:

Bottom line: Obama is looking more Presidential as the debate moves on, McCain is not.

McCain looks like a pissed and confused old man out of his league. Obama is in control, full of facts and confidence.

The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein's picture

OMG. He's saying that he went to Russia too. That should be a drinking game.

Chuck's picture

Obama is not winning over any Repubs tonight or undecideds.

Shitburgers.

smk101's picture

obama needs to go on offense.....RIGHT NOW

snoozer's picture

*Again* with the "Obama doesn't understand." McCain's strategy is clear: neutralize Obama's supposed "elite" intelligence by basically saying he's dumb. It touches on the experience issue *and* has a racial undercurrent.

nin-mofo's picture

JL @ 409:

nin-mofo @ 390:

Bottom line: Obama is looking more Presidential as the debate moves on, McCain is not.

McCain looks like a pissed and confused old man out of his league. Obama is in control, full of facts and confidence.

Yes. And watch Pat Buchanan point out the SAME THING. Well said JL @ 409.

majicman's picture

galmud @ 397:

Georgia attacked first you lying fool

But....OB said Russia attacked Georgia too. I'm pissed OB for telling lies like McCain.
Or more important...is my man just misinformed?

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

let's nuke russia

AlphaMack's picture

Obama is perpetuating the lie as well.

swampfox's picture

smk101 @ 412:

obama needs to go on offense.....RIGHT NOW

too late!

galmud's picture

Seriously imagine Sarah Palin in a debate on this level

pinkobait's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 406:

pinkobait @ 399:

McCain is completely on the attack-Obama is being too fair and polite.

Obama is polite by nature and i don't want him to stray from what he knows.

Well not to the point of getting too emotional but maybe more direct and forceful.Stop saying "John is right".

scott's picture

a friend of mine just called me and said that about 912 pm central time on the debate, during obama talking about mccain's statement of not meeting with the spanish government, you could hear mccain mutter very low "bulls***" i dvr'd back and it sure sounds like it. anyone else catch that?

galmud's picture

majicman @ 415:

galmud @ 397:

Georgia attacked first you lying fool

But....OB said Russia attacked Georgia too. I'm pissed OB for telling lies like McCain.
Or more important...is my man just misinformed?

You cant be pro Russia like you cant be pro Palestine in American politics. Truth doesnt matter

xoites defends Constitution's picture

galmud @ 419:

Seriously imagine Sarah Palin in a debate on this level

Sorry, can't. I tried. I really did.

Alexdem's picture

galmud @ 404:

pinkobait @ 393:

Obama has to address this belittling sneering attitude that McCain is indulging in.

Yep. He says "Obama doesnt understand" all the time when he really is talking about policy differences. Obama should call him out

Obama would look even more arrogant by correcting him. Let McCain act like an asshole. It's not the people who appreciate that attitude who we're out to convince.

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

galmud @ 419:

Seriously imagine Sarah Palin in a debate on this level

there is that

Dracho's picture

I gotta say that McCain looks stringer right now.

Bill S. Preston Esq.'s picture

Jesus he gaffed on the SEC Chairman thing, again; Obama didn't hit him on it. Nooooooooooooo................

maru's picture

McCain's eye is acting up again.

Dracho's picture

I meant stronger. Obama looks like he's getting on a roll now.

cw's picture

damn, McCain just claimed he saw the financial crisis coming, and Obama called him on his "fundamentals of the economy are strong"... stick it to him, Barack, be concise and merciless. Call out the clueless twit and let America see real leadership!

Kaz's picture

I was gonna guess stringer = stranger...

maru's picture

Shoot, McCain looks like he's ready to keel over. And I can't stop looking at that eye!!!

Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not!'s picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 10:

Liberal AND Proud @ 6:

Jim Lehrer for President!!

I think you mean Tom in which case i agree. :)

Timothy Leary for Pres.......ooops, wrong era.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

Fundamental problems in our fundamentally sound economy.

And he fundamentally mentally believes it.

smk101's picture

anything for whenever the word "fundamental" is said?

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 44:

Normandy Invasion time. Was Ike like McCain a POW? Or is he going to resign?

he's working his way to it. get ready to drink

Jamie's picture

McCain's fundamental beliefs are fundamentally sound. Drill baby drill!!!

abarts's picture

Has McCain mentioned he's a P.O.W.? You know, he rarely talks about it.
(at work, not watching)

xoites defends Constitution's picture

Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 55:

xoites defends Constitution @ 10:

Liberal AND Proud @ 6:

Jim Lehrer for President!!

I think you mean Tom in which case i agree. :)

Timothy Leary for Pres.......ooops, wrong era.

Pretty close and they both went to Harvard.

galmud's picture

800 billion spending gone in Iraq..

Kaz's picture

get spending under control.. how much do we spend a day in Iraq?

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

Kaz @ 45:

are we supposed to drink every time McCain coughs?

does he have throat cancer too?

No. 44's picture

Round 1, McCain.

AlphaMack's picture

Gateway drug? What's next, the War on Spending?

sooth Hussein sayer's picture

Obama missed his chance to hold mccain accountable for the fannie/freddie lobbyist on his campaign staff, and the ceo pay issue with Carly Fiorina.

galmud's picture

make their names known... blablabla

Dracho's picture

galmud @ 62:

800 billion spending gone in Iraq..

I hope Obama points this out.

majicman's picture

Pick up the pace BO....Rnd 1 to the 3 month in combat war hero

maru's picture

Hey: McCain's not wearing a flag pin!

Maybe its in THAT DAMN EYE

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

is mclame sucking on a lemon

AlphaMack's picture

A bridge...to Alaska!

Please...

maru's picture

a bridge... to nowhere!

majicman's picture

When you watch a boxing match, you look at the facial reaction of the guy who just took one to the pumpkin. I'm sorry to say it but, our man has a painful look on his face. I'm looking at what the audience sees in each others reaction to their punches. Forget about the points, most of the listeners don't understand the points anyway because they can't get beyond their own biases.

Jason's picture

Anyone notice how on the CNN ticker the Inds and Dems TANK whenever John McCain opens his mouth?

Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo's picture

McShithead looked stupid

The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein's picture

All I have to say is that the 29 per-centers and the bigots are going to be fired up about this.

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