Hardball: For Chris Matthews, Sunglasses Means Elite
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I'm getting really tired of cable airwaves being used for Chris Matthews to exorcise whatever nerdy kid demons he still holds on to since high school. Apparently, for Chris Matthews, Kewl Kid Barack Obama wearing sunglasses is an elitist act:
Here's MSNBC's Chris Matthews, moments ago, suggesting Barack Obama is "elite" in part because Obama was wearing sunglasses:
Can Barack Obama, a man of elite education if not elite background, break into the middle class and talk regular? Can he talk to regular people in their kitchens tonight, in their living rooms?[...]
Everybody thinks Barack is too cool. In other words, there he is with the shades, getting on the plane. A little bit too elegant, a little bit too proud of his own bearing. Is that a problem, that he's just too cool for words. In other words, elite.
Wow, project much, Chris? Seriously, invest in a little therapy. Take Pat Buchanan and Andrea Mitchell with you. This kind of criticism is like a bad episode of "The Hills". High school was many years ago, let's move on.
God bless all the unhip caucasian halfwits. Where would television be without them?
Chris Matthews gets paid a helluva lot of money to call other people elites.
In the campaigns Matthews worked on, they must have had easily defined, stereotyped categories of voter demographics, and now whenever Matthews speaks extemporaneously (which is most of the time) he just can't help but think along the lines of this stupidest, wackiest lines of campaign-generated faux-demography sh*t that he used to think was God's direct wisdom.
They have their marching orders from above. Distract from what should be the main issue which is the Corporate dominance of the national life.
They will conceal the plundering anyway they can.
I guess if Obama were wearing Boosh's aquavelva, he'd be the guy in the next barstool. what the next criticism, not being accessible at the salad bar in Arby's?
chrissie is at it again.
Chris, America would rather have the old man with a $100 million and 9 homes who's clothes are too big run the country for the "little guy".
Right.
Chris, you are so cool you are culo!
Google "McCain sunglasses".
El Cid @ 3:
previously, matthews only had to choose between two white men. cool is "a black thing". this is coded racism, just like matthews did the coded sexism to hillary. someone put matthews back "on message". I surprised matthews didn't compare Obama to John Shaft or Superfly.
I remember watching this live and being livid! THEY ARE SUNGLASSES, CHRIS!!!! He's too cool because he's wearing SUNGLASSES?? Give me a break. These kind of thoughts and comments are just stupid. Are we in high school? Why is that thought never expressed when McCain is wearing SUNGLASSES??? Ridiculous.
That's awesome.
I guess Palin and her 'hip' glasses that are flying off the shelf makes her a commoner?
Chill @ 8:
nice catch here!
Well, even those "pimp shades" (that's what my grown sons in L.A. call $300 Maui Jims that they and their friends sport) won't save Obama from his poor performance in last nights debate. If I hear him say "You're right John" one more time I think I'm gonna barf:
http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&It...
Chris, you really have to get out more!!!!
Oh no, He di-int.
And I guess the Farragamo loafers makes McCain a man of the people. Now I gotta let the wife and kids know I'm an elitist based on the fact I own a pair of $12. sunglasses. Boy, they'll be surprised!
Ok, our candidate is elite. Why can't Dems embrace this. Isn't it time to force the nation to face up to the fact that letting the beer guzzling jock who pretends to care about Nascar and Football run things hasn't been such a good idea? Can we get beyond the elitist bullshit and and embrace the fact that our candidate is a learned scholar, valedictorian, and likes the finer things in life such as keeping up with current events and caring about people? Next time some nabob yells 'Elitist!' can we grow some balls and shout back 'Damn straight!'.
rcm @ 16:
Geez rcm you are cheap. Mine were $ 13.00
jonah goldberg was too scared to watch.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 9:
Exactly.
Tweety should have just quit while he was ahead when he called McCain, "troll-like".
The glasses thing? Can Tweety suggest something better to protect Obama's eyes in the sun?
i live in the southwest. most people wear sunglasses
out here.......i didn't realize we moved up to elitism
because we were protecting our eyes. i would have
avoided all that college had i'd known it was that easy.
I swear, Tweety is mentally ill. He calls McCain "troll-like," then pulls this high-schoolish crap. Back and forth, back and forth.
Yesterday, in the post-debate discussions, he went off on some long, self-indulgent foreign policy tangent. Just rambling on and on.
I can't stand him. He's nuts.
Jeez, I've seen any number of pictures of McCain in sunglasses.
I more or less like Chris Matthews, I guess, but he does make it tough, some more times than others.
Last night, he asked Eugene Robinson why Obama was so "unethnic" at the debate and announced that we wouldn't know who won the debate till we knew what blue collar white voters thought.
I think what Matthews really means is "uppity".
chris is a douchebag and I wish you would quit singing his praises everytime his broken clock ass gives the correct time twice a day.
also, did anyone see bill maher last night?
his closing comment on voting by color was priceless.
Tekras @ 17:
Amen.
I'm tired of bellicose, parochial, illiterate assholes running -- and ruining -- everything.
So much fluff, so little thought...
What did we REALLY learn this week?
That the "Republicans were bad at governing but good at business" is horse $hit. They are crooks and liars at both.
That McCain is willing to go to ANY lengths to win the Presidency - even if that means all that is left to be governed is a burned out husk of a country.
That Obama is our best hope, but is he willing to do what may be necessary to save the country - say NO to the Wall St crooks that want to destroy our last best chance to fix our country. Can he be our generation's FDR?
Some people wears sunglasses to shield their eyes FROM THE SUN. I know Chris Matthews does.
The immediate reaction from viewers was that Obama came out ahead. He was playing to the undecided voters. Judging from the focus group responses the "I agree with John" tactic worked in this case. McCain's "he doesn't understand" ploy didn't.
Chris Matthews is just on the front line for the counterattack to keep McCain in the game.
They did it to Gore and to Kerry after the public had similar responses to their debates. Do you expect anything else?
Chris Matthews would make a fascinating study for a team of psychiatrists. He has a set of three or four raging pathologies that he displays on various shows. It's almost like he is rotating through them one day at a time. "Today is Friday, so I must be the envious, resentful Joe Sixpack/armchair quarterback and criticize Obama's suave sophistication and fashionable eyewear. On Monday, I will be the fawning sycophant and get tears in my eyes praising the great war hero McCain and the spirit of bipartisan cooperation that makes our leaders such heroes. Tuesday, I will drop some more hints that I am going to run for office myself, because I am fed up with 'business as usual' on Capitol Hill." My question is, has a thought ever entered his head that did not immediately come flying out of his gigantic mouth??
I think it's elitest when NASCAR drivers wear big wraparound shades.
I've stopped watching Matthews, along with most other "pundits," a long time ago. He has no insights worth anything. A funny thing has happened to me since Mr. Obama burst on the scene. His mastery of English far surpasses that of any pundit I know of. After he finishes speaking, I have no interest in what any of the hacks, in print or on TV, has to say.
al dole @ 29:
That's why Tweety has to just cut the crap and say he's a good lackey for the GOP like all the other members of the MSM.
i saw this clip last night and couldn't help but wonder if one of the pundits would play the elitist card...I guess my curiosity has been answered. Voters I know who support Obama don't see him as cool or as some second coming of Christ as the wing-nuts want you to believe. They see him as i do, a candidate who is sick of the status-quo and who is looking to shake things up. Also, a guy who can actually articulate a thought or idea without sounding condescending much like McCain does.
On another note, i couldn't agree more with Nicole! Chris, get over this grade-school "I can't connect with Obama because he is too cool" meme, it's bloody annoying!
They are are not props, just sunglasses, and not very cool or "elegant" ones at that, Chris! How are the sunglasses Barack is wearing in that particular shot "elite" in any way, shape, or form? They are there for utility, Chris. Jaysus!
Chill @ 8:
srsly!
http://ndn.newsweek.com/media/46/080328_NA01_wide-horizontal.jpg
Maybe Obama's off to fight space aliens who leave their incognito status in our country.
Paul Newman is dead.
http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20229386_20199694,00.htm...
Randall Cryer @ 28:
And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...
In the important senses of the term, he is dead wrong.
Economically, McCain married money and so is the elite. Obama is the everyman.
Politically and socially, McCain is the party of money and power. Obama is in the party of the poor and those out of power.
Now, those are the ways in which elite is a negative. But what the Hardball host is doing is buying into the McCain/Rove smear that celebrity=elite=bad. But even to the extent that is true, there is nothing inherently bad about being a cultural elite. Some great artists and politicians are elites in that sense, and I guess my response is SO WHAT? The obnoxious celebrities are the ones who have become economic elites and lost their link to ordinary people -- and anyone who has heard Obama speak knows that doesn't describe him.
I think its time for everyone to send Chris Mathews their congratulations for now having the third highest rated show (and counting) in MSNBC's prime time:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/09/17/cable-news-ratings-for/5165
Note that he's actually fourth if you count the fact that Olbermann beat him twice!
I see what they are doing. MSM is building up McCain and putting down Obama just to keep the people focused on their news station. Obama is ahead of McCain this week, so they have to make it look like McCain is doing pretty well too, just to keep the campaigning close or they (MSM) think people will turn the station and watch something else. Poor fv(kers.
Tweety can't keep his beak closed long enough to actually say anything intelligent.
Don't you get the unspoken theme of his statement: "Obama is uppity."
rcm @ 16:
And Cindy' McCain's $300,000 outfit is down-to-earth! Costs more than many middle-class Midwestern homes!! And what about Sarah Palin's being in the Elite Six group in Anchorage?
Matthews is grasping at straws here. Most adults know you need to protect your eyes from the sun! I wear sunglasses whenever it's sunny.
Just more proof Chris Matthews "analysis" is worthless fluff 90% ego, 10% facts. Stick Tweety in Maddow's late slot and give her the prime dinner slot, America will be better off for it.
I am so sick and tired of this Obama crap...[Then visit McOldWhiteHairedGuy support sites. How stupid are you to come here and complain about it? I can't believe some of you people-Sitemonitor]
only in america can people as dumb and mentally ill as mathews get a high paying job.
Pick a team Chris you putz.
Oh BTW, RIP Paul Newman-you were soooooooooooo cool.
Southern whites still hate blacks. They're still holding onto old the old Civil War myths about slave ownership and white women vulnerability. NEWS FLASH: you lost the damn war over a hundred years ago! You got your asses kicked. Why continue to hold onto your racist BS-to make you feel superior? Karl Rove Koolaide sheeple.
I disagree with the article here. Chris Matthews isn't expressing his point of view. He's attempting to frame the point of view of those who would consider him an elitist. Of course he doesn't point out that Obama is carrying his own suit bag.
The master of content-free journalism. Who told him he could think?
AndrewK @ 49:
I think you are right, but it does not matter. It's still enables journalism without substance.
Once again Chris Matthews being predictably unpredictable....i don't let it bother me. i could be
mistaken but i believe Chris throws out these
ideas because he does believe there are people
who think obama maybe 'too cool'. i don't religiously
listen to Chris Matthews...i prefer Charlie Rose. i
don't necessarily believe Chris Matthews personally
believes everything he says....he tries to stimulate
reaction and contraversy(ratings).
What a huge steaming pile of shite!
Do you hear the sound of millions of Repug sunnies snap in half. C and L prize for first new pic of McCain in shades.
Vale Paul Newman your politics and wonderful outlook on life epitomises the way we should live our lives today.
Dear General,
it has come to my attention, that certain well-supported fighting brigades in our military, are "elite" fighting forces.
Excuse me for being a patriot, but while the country is at war and we are are trying to pick a commander and cheif,
as a concerned American focused on the the threat of terror, I am ashamed that our military would resort to branding the liberal political agenda of elitism on our proud and honorable men and women who are fighting to secure our freedom.
Why is it that so many people are so shallow that they focus on what people look like rather than substance of what they say and their polices? This not a beauty pageant people. Stop worrying about how they look, and pay attention to what they say! We don't need a pretty president nor one who just looks presidential, but a president who cares about the country and the people. Washington, Lincoln, and Roosevelt were far from pretty.
That's our LIBERAL media at work. Calling the black man who has worked his way through a hard life elite. Way to stick to the issues Chris. You twat!
No, an elitist is someone who gives Paulson money to bailout his bad investments.
!!NEWSFLASH!!
ATTENTION CHRIS MATTHEWS - PAT BUCHANAN - ANDREA MITCHELL
YOU ARE NOT ONE OF US!
Stop acting like you pukes are middle class... You live far above the fray... Enjoy it.
Trying to "slum" it with the people is simply insulting.
MK @ 45:
MK, you really should take a breath. Try not to be so emotional. You'll live longer.
ysbaddaden @ 37:
I heard it this morning. What terrible news. I wonder how Joanne Woodward and his children are doing.
Chris Matthews is a rich pampered, priviledged pundit who for the good of America should retire. He's long past his prime and needs to step aside to allow fresh voices on the scene. How long must America suffer these twits?
Why do the pundits think Obama has trouble connecting with certain groups of voters but McCain doesn't?
MK @ 45:
"Socialism"? "All evil"?
Yada yada ...
Are you off your meds?
McCain is the one with no honor or integrity, you halfwit ...
MK @ 45:
Speak for yourself. America is ripe for real democratic socialism. Your standing in the way of progress. Sit down and STFU.
MK, you don't seem to have any problem when conservatives take from the poor to give to the rich. Democratic socialism will guarantee that that it works both ways.
Barack Obama does look pretty badass in shades.
Chris is suffering a form of PTSD resulting from regularly getting his ass kicked by the "cool" kids in high school. Is Obama too cool?! What kind of question is that? Sunglasses make him elite?! I guess this high school teacher is elite. And here I thought I was just protecting my eyes against dangerous rays. Who knew?!
bobsf @ 51:
Yes, but it also enables half-assed attack analysis on "liberal" blogs. This isn't journalism either, it's commentary.
MK @ 45:
YOU need to take a break from the republican/NEOCON
propaganda material. stay away from the NEOCON
kool-aid for a day or two. for a change of material
watch the palin/pastor muthee video...'the witchcraft
doctor'....get back to us on your opinion. one last
issue your president the guy you voted for BUSH
is proposing this financial bailout...'socialism'. they
bailed out fannie/freddie...loans to automakers please
spare the capitalism cheer. typical NEOCON
privatize the profit and socialize the losses
Gotugye @ 65:
As soon as you mention Hannity and O'reilly, your credibility goes RIGHT in the toilet! Take a good cue from Palin, and just shut up!!
I wear "shades" too, and I don't have a pot to pee in. Am I elite, too? And should a potential POTUS be dressed in a Hawaiian shirt and flipflops?
This isn't a damned sporting event or a damned survivor-island television show.
Our economy is more than likely going to experience an unprecedented upheaval in 2009; there is no way to avoid it.
Judging by his antagonistic mood last night, John McCain is itching to play war with Korea, Iran, Russia, Iraq, and Afghanistan, to name just 5. His refusal to even look at Senator Obama tells me all I need to know about McCain.
The corporate media culture in this country is sick beyond belief.
Matthews: Have you any clue whatsoever as to how utterly stupid and insipid you appear? Not just you, but all of your corporate media cronies?
Matthews must be schtupping Cokie Roberts, who recently put together the words "Obama," "Hawaii," and came up with "exotic."
Now Tweetie sees "shades" and free associates to "elite."
Tweetie sounds jealous.
Yeah, I saw that too and thought what a snarky bastard, Matthews was to throw a punch at another guy so much cooler than he is, when he's the one who continually spouts all the places he's been and Washington people he smoozes with.
That's strictly an ego call.
MK @ 45:
your frantic post sans punctuation says it all. your blindly following your emotions and your misinformed. i know education is expensive but what's the cost of ignorance? you should probably keep quiet and try to learn a few things while all of this goes down.
good luck to you.
He has to wear shades because when you are President you can't blink. Besides, Chris, the alternative is far worse--a President with melanoma.
I bought a pair of sunglasses for $8.99 at 7-Eleven yesterday. Hmm. Was liking Obama before I heard this. Think I'll vote for McCain in November.
Its All Fair On MSNBC
This video exampled the rationalizing nature of MSNBC's racist commentary. Although often indirect, like Pat Buchanan's statement "he's got to come off like one of us," they constantly make reference to the "good oh boy network."
Actually, MSNBC has been doing a lot of racist programing in conjunction with covering Barack Obama. Two nights ago, and I am still looking for the video feed, while a black news commentator talked about the possibility of the debates being delayed, they showed another black reporter in the field. This reporter had makeup problems and the end result was she looked like she was in "Black face --" an old stereotype showing black actors with very dark faces and bucked out white eyes. Granted this could of been a mistake, but I could get passed the fact that MSNBC is supposed to be professional. In any event, I am now watching for continued paring. Not only is MSNBC is doing it but CNN is doing the same. Somehow, I think these networks are asking the question: "are you sure you want to put a black face in the oval office.
So far, the rationalization of presenting offensive material under the claim they are expressing freedom of whatever is getting old. Pat Buchanan has been on MSNBC too many times and always walks up to the door of racial commentary with a hint of ambiguity to save his ass. That is getting very old too.
Joseph
JESUS H. CHRIST!! ARE WE IN F**KING HIGH SCHOOL?? WHATS WITH THIS KEWL SH*T??!!!
Senator Obama wears sunglasses to protect his eyes from the sun; JUST LIKE REGULAR PEOPLE DO!! If he didnt wear them, tweety would say he was too macho to wear them like regular people do.
Every so often, tweety hits one out of the park and I begin to think that maybe he's not such an a**hole after all. THEN, he says sh*t like Obama is an elitist for wearing sunglass and then he goes right to the top of my fecal roster and I want to bit*hslap his teeth down his throat for being such an a**hole after all!!
MK @ 45:
In my socialist world, you would get a free education!
MK: Punctuation can be your friend. Trust me. It's not elitist. It's not socialistic. It eases communication. George Will does it. Pat Buchanan does it. Bob Novak does it. I know; I checked; you can too.
Is it caffeine? Speed? What's the problem?
Really. Calm thyself. Then, re-watch the debate with the sound turned down and tell me who's more presidential.
If you dare.
MK @ 45:
Ahh how times have changed, was it not just a moment ago that Chris M was trashing both Clintons and was oh so queer for obama? He got a tingley feeling up his leg when obama gave a speech and he and Keith O just gushed and gushed when they interviewed obama. No obama fan complained then. Saturday Night Live got it and ran with it and it was funny. But now it aint' funny because he is talking about obama. Get a grip this fool has been off for a long time.
I figured it out, people! Conservatives FINALLY are realizing they lost this election! This explains all the hostility. I'd feel sorry for all you guys, but you're not worth it! Congrats Obama!!!
After I became legally blind from cataracts, I asked my surgeon what causes them. He admitted that science hasn't pinned that one down. However, 2 things CAN cause it, diabetes and exposure to too much bright light. Surfing as a teenager and being a mechanic exposed to lots of electric welding immediately came to mind. Offhand, he said that sunglasses should be worn while you're outside, even on cloudy days. Anyway, 4 years ago since my surgery I now have 20/22 vision, which is almost normal. However, I need glasses for reading as I can no longer focus my eyes, but they're working on focusable implants.
So, I don't see (pun intended) how protecting your eyesight is "elitist". Is that all they've got? Pathetic.
Sounds like "A little bit too elegant, a little bit too proud of his own bearing." is not too subtle code for "Uppity." Nothing more than PC racism. What next, criticizing him for wearing a belt to keep his pants up?
MK @ 45
Haha..that was a most pathetic rant, and you took the time to type it. But it was funny. thanks!
hey, look, it's john mccain, WEARING SUNGLASSES.
(warning: this picture contains a graphic close-up of a booger!)
How dare a black man be educated and look well put together! And how dare he wear sunglasses to protect his eyes from the sun!
How frickin' racist can the MSM get? I guess we're about to see...
MK @ 45:
LOL, the GOP troll pool is certainly reaching for the bottom of the barrel. I guess MK is one of the few trolls that would do the shilling for free and no McCain campaign swag.
Sad, sad...
BTW, how will president McCain defend us, when his only military experience is in crashing airplanes, creating international incidents, almost sinking an aircraft carrier, and his only military "achievement" was to be captured by the enemy. So you want to be defended by John "deadmeat" McCain? The only way I can see John McCain defending us, is by him fighting for the enemy... because I am sure he will fuck things up royally for which ever side he is fighting for. LOL...
Apphouse50 @ 81:
My money is on meth. I heard it is quite popular among closeted inbred rednecks...
constituent @ 70:
After using my famous FOX analyzing techniques, I'd ponder the opinion that the full depth of knowledge shown by MK45 would indicate that he's been hanging out at the nearby chimp cage too long or attending too many Republican rallies - same thing really, and thinks that's what life is really like - full of hate and bigotry.
Get a job MK... at Walmart for example. See what life is really like for the majority of your friends and neighbors, for a change.
ez @ 83:
really, the only thing left to do is pray every day some rightwing nut job doesn't do the unthinkable.
my atheist friends think i'm nuts, but i pray for obama every day. mccain too.
BigIslandDave @ 22:
I caught that too. what was that about as if he had a clue about the "average joe.
Tyler Durden @ 90:
My money is on stupidity. That's the only think that gives them a high and FOX News sells it by the crate!!
I thought that Matthews was pushing his own read of the debates last night in general, not just with the sunglasses tact. Even in the evidence of the focus group polls that gave the debate to Obama, even the one on Fox News, Matthews kept arguing against the opinions of all those people. I thought he was way overboard last night. Spitting and fuming his narrow read while ignoring all the contrary evidence. His coverage was decidedly below par last night.
AndrewK @ 69:
I'm not a journalist and have made no attempt to claim so. This is not a news blog. This is a political/media commentary blog. I'm paid to give MY OPINIONS.
And I'm sorry, but you're just wrong. Chris Matthews is furthering the media narrative that the man raised by a single mother and worked for all the accomplishments he achieved is somehow more alien and more elitist than the man who married into obscene wealth and used his father in law's purse strings to buy himself a political career.
The examples Chris uses, though, are pure Matthews id. Matthews has admitted in interviews that he wasn't popular in school and that he looked to the kewl kidz to see why they were so popular. He's a hanger on and all of these examples are just proof that Matthews is still reliving his high school insecurities. I'm about 20 years younger than Matthews and high school was decades ago for me. I repeat, move on, for crying out loud.
(_)_) @ 60:
Yes, MK, and learn how to capitalize, spell and punctuate correctly. Maybe then people will think of you as intelligent with a good grasp of the English language you were supposed to have learned in school. Anyway, it isn't Obama's campaign that is spinning this as a win for Obama. So are most news agencies and polls. And they are saying McCain came off as rude and mean.
Rosanne @ 79:
i agree. you just never know which tweety matthews is going to show up.
Maybe Chris would rather see Barack squinting into the sun with a piece of straw in his teeth or maybe a corncob pipe.
I don't want any farmer looking guy who can't express himself with words bigger than six letters for my next president, We did that once, it didn't work out did it.
Tweety, go get your jollies watching this and leave the commentary to the adults in the studio.
I wondered how long it would take for the elitist/intellectual tag to get slapped on Obama from last night. I guess we should be glad we're not hearing the "uppity" or "angry" meme but that is a sad, sad state of affairs. "Oh, they didn't call him a n*gger! How nice of them!"
The good part is all the polling of independents and undecided voters seem to indicate Obama pulled more of them his way. I noticed the Five Thirty Eight poll this morning moved even farther in Obama's direction. Who cares what the idiot box is saying when the voters aren't paying attention to it? They're hearing Obama speak to them about the issues they care about and they like what they're hearing. That is what wins elections, not Chris' blather.
Now Biden has to expose Caribou Barbie as the vapid symbol of the dying Rethuglican brand. Given what the right-wing pundits have been saying since the Couric interview that shouldn't be too hard. Of course there is always the chance that expectations for Quaylin have been set so low that all she has to do is not drool on herself and people will be impressed.
"The dead have risen and they're voting Republican!" -- Bart Simpson
wow. jon stewart's right. something needs to be done about tweety.
53 Peoples Front of Judea Says: What a huge steaming pile of shite!
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Why are you slamming a major though smaller branch of Islam, when your target is Tweety?
Oh and MK @ 45:, the media has been holding hands with mcgramps all along. They don't report his low standing in Annapolis, his crashing planes, his betrayal of our country by aiding his captors in propaganda broadcasts, his failure to attempt an excape as per the UCMJ, leaving his first wife because she was getting older, and was disabled by an accident, marrying a rich woman half his age to finance his political career, the Keating 5 scandals et al.
On the debate mcgramps mostly appeared testy. I was waiting for Obama to say how good a debator mcgramps was, first debating whether he was going to appear to the debates, then not appear, then to appear, then to fix the damage the repugs created, even though he's a repug, and even though he voted for most of the damaging policies like gutting regulatory agencies.
karen marie @ 19:
The National Review has been running some of the most racist idiocy about the Wall St. crash. Did you know that it's because WaMu had too many minorities working there?
And all the financial problems of the country are because too many poor people were given loans to buy houses.
So why would anyone be surprised that the old white guy did a better job than the black man in their eyes?
Ralph @ 32:
Exactly!! When they all slam Obama, saying he's "professorial" and isn't "connecting" with the common man, the little people, and, especially, Matthews' ubiquitous mythological average blue collar working guy in Scranton - are they being envious of Obama's superior communicating skills, does he remind them of the college professors who actually demanded they do the work to pass, so now they want to extract retribution by using "professorial" as some sort of denigrating aspertion? Or are they just envious elitists themselves; holding themselves above both the common folk and the politicians whose success or failure they think they should be the final arbiters of? Remember how pissed Matthews was when the pundits got the '06 race wrong? How dare the people defy him!
They remind me of the Catholics Church's doctrine of intercession and they are the priests. There can be no communication between mere mortals and the saints and dieties without the intercession of the holy menof the punditocracy, who get to interpret dogma to suit their own political needs and sell the indulgences of their attention and screen time to buy favors from Heaven.
What's so wrong with someone who is elite being the president? I want someone running the country who is, presumably, better educated, better informed and more capable than I am. This concept of the everyman executive really is bullshit.
Now, what I don't want is an elitist president, someone who believes that the needs and desires of more privileged classes trump those of the everyman. Right wing news seems to confuse the concept of elite, which the President of the United States is, by very definition and elitist, which they need not be.
Pechorin @ 1:
defending thierselves from other racists?
Yeah. Those northeast Philly boys. They got issues. I should know. I dated one for awhile. Jeez.
ysbaddaden @ 102:
Nah, he just secretly British. From the Urban Dictionary: "a very British and therefore great way of saying shit. shite sounds much more effective than shit "
Finally!!! I can be elite too! I love wearing my sunglasses...
It would improve all of Matthew's shows immensely if everyone on the panel wore sunglasses.
The Right HATES Chris Mathews HATES him ...tiggle up the leg for
Obama and all that stuff .
I think people here wana read more into something than was EVER there .
He asked a question ?
MK @ 45:
That's the most important phrase in that whole post. That is the very definition of ignorance, no matter if he hears the truth or not, he's not going to change his mine. It's that attitude, the rejection of logic and reason, that has put our country into the hole that it's in.
Oh, and I'm so tired of hearing how Rev. Wright hates America. He's a Marine (once a Marine, always a Marine?) - that right there makes him more patriotic than Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Weiner Savage, Rove, etc. Period.
Nicole Belle @ 96:
matthews may have an inferiority complex of some sort...it may play into this....no one can be absolutely
sure. i think we can agree there are people who do think in terms of what you mention here. i've mentioned before matthews is predictably...unpredictable. i still feel he may be revealing the criticisms made by others of obama. i'm
not saying he is a master at it but he does offer a
different approach for people to stimulate conversation
and opinions about the absurdity of republican negative
framing of obama. i don't disagree with our opinion
however i do believe there are some other possibilities.
hey, nicole, if i may go o-t for one brief comment (i won't likely be around for the open thread):
i haven't seen it mentioned on c&l today yet, but the great paul newman has passed away. i consider him one of the best american actors, and by all accounts, he was a heck of a quality individual.
everyone go out and rent "cool hand luke" and buy some newman's own dressing when you're at the grocery store (you will help his charities).
oh, and one other thing. i know we're all still reeling from last night's debate, but let's not forget we have a swarm of vampires down in washington this weekend holding up the blood bank...
(_)_) @ 60:
Why would you give this person advice that might help him/her live longer? If this guy can't see that McCain is way past the time when all those nice things he says about him were true, nothing he sees here will help.
John McCain.....Once was a Maverick, Now Just A Crabby Old Fart.
I didn't know that being on food stamps was elitist, I guess the way things are going it may be so.
McCain wears shades in a Baghdad market, he's what, a bloody turista?
MK @ 45:
One day I was in a drive through line at a fast food place, chatting with a friend on the phone while I was waiting, when this guy came up to my car window and asked if he could ask me a question. I though he needed directions or something, so I said sure.
He started ranting at me about politics, asked me why I wanted to kill babies. Then I realized he had seen the Kerry sticker on my car. He kept ranting, raising his voice, getting wierder and wierder, and louder. The guy was going postal before my eyes, right there in the fast food drive through, and me with my phone at my ear, my mouth hanging open in utter shock and my friend on the phone saying, "What's going on? Should I call the police?".
The guy ended up screaming that I needed to start listening to Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh so I could learn the Truith, and then he left.
Something about your post just made me relive that whole incident. Thanks for nothing.
What the hell is he talking about???
http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/McCain%20sunglasses.jpg
http://maryschwalm.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/mccain.jpg
http://ndn.newsweek.com/media/46/080328_NA01_wide-horizontal.jpg
http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/ap/1a3ebf91-6138-42ab-ab5e-413c69564cdf.h2.jpg
http://images.politico.com/global/mccain%20and%20starbux.jpg
http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/John+McCain+Gives+Speech+Annapolis+40...
Thomas @ 105:
Correct! The word "elite" and "elitist" have very different meanings. In Obama's America, everyone gets to wear a pair of sunglasses and carry their own luggage. In McCain's America, he can own 7 houses while most other people are lucky if they get to live in a house and not their car.
It's disgusting that this is what passes for commentary today.
I bet McCain wore sunglasses alot..
.. WHEN HE WAS IN VIETNAM!!..
Just in case you forgot!
they're desperately subdued over at free republic
MK @ 45:
hey MK, would that be shorthand for M K Ultra because I'm pretty sure you are under mind control somehow
larry @ 111:
The problem is he repeated a meme (and a negative one at that) so the question was framed against Obama. This is a standard right-wing tool. Lines like, "Why does my opponent hate the troops?" The opponent is now forced to fight back against a negative perception just to get back to neutral. The humorous equivalent was Groucho Marx's famous, "So when did you stop beating your wife?" line. There really isn't a good way to answer it. You're in the hole and the best you can do is come out not looking like a fool. If Matthew's is supposed to be a neutral commentator he shouldn't be using Karl Rove's pickup lines. This is what people really miss about Tim Russert, he really wasn't on anyone's side. It could drive the left and the right equally nuts but I'd rather fair then the drivel that comes out of Tweety's mouth 90% of the time.
MK @ 45:
You are in TROUBLE! Socialism is the only thing that can save this country. But of course, you have no idea what socialism is, you were programmed to believing that it is evil. It is not. Socialism is whereby everyone contributes taxes to the government, which, in a true socialistic society, then redistributes the wealth to provide infrastructure and social programs for ALL. It is predicated on all people being equal in their basic needs. These being in no particular order, roads, public transport, health care, education, electricity, police, fire and ambulance, care of our elder citizens, parks and gardens, libraries, disaster relief and on and on.
In other words, we're being ripped off, where ARE our taxes going? Currently, 2 wars and Wall St...
You're focusing your hate in the wrong direction. You're distracted by bright shiny objects such as the election, but while your back is turned, the junta have stolen and are stealing your country out from under you.
Wearing sunglasses outside to deal with the glare from the sun is not elitist.
Wearing sunglasses at the lectern while he was debating would have been elitist.
Cocksucker. At my house sunglasses means retinal protection so I don't go blind. Preventative medicine.
I'll see ya later Chris, but apparently, you won't be able to say the same.
1 car
1 house
1 pair of sunglasses
Elitist.
13 cars
7 houses
1 airplane
Your average Joe.
Matthews is a prick who needs his ass beaten, seriously.
I doubt that Chris Matthews would consider himself racist. I doubt that in the way he conducts himself in life, and in his personal ideology that he is racist.
But I would bet anything that he would NEVER have said this about a white person:
Everybody thinks Barack is too cool. In other words, there he is with the shades, getting on the plane. A little bit too elegant, a little bit too proud of his own bearing. Is that a problem, that he’s just too cool for words. In other words, elite.
A direct word to Chris Matthews: You are a Rethuglican shill. You are a self-defined, well paid, self-serving, first-class Jackass. In all my 72 years I have never heard anyone called elitist for wearing sun glasses. Does it occur to your miniturized brain that they may be a necessity for some people? Or are you too much the Rethuglican shill to recognize that. I would wish that you would be honest with the viewers and say that your Pennsylvania upbring makes you dislike people of color. You made that abundently clear in your pushing Hillary, first for the nominee of the party and then for Vice-President. You are not fooling anyone while looking for all the world like a total fool, as well as a jackass.
We don't need another guy in the White House that looks like somebody we would have a beer with...
Just look at the whole spectrum of trouble the US is in right now....
We are run by incompetents who use crisis after crisis to promote their inept strategies....
I want a man who is really smart, capable, and is physically ready to be our leader...
I believe Matthews has run out of intelligent things to talk about and is using the talking points the GOP pimps out....
Geesh....give me a break.....elite....if Steven Hawkin wasn't in a wheelchair and was available I would vote for him....
Wearing sunglasses helps prevent sun damage around the eyes, cataracts, sunglare and on and on. Surely the sign of someone with half a brain. Half a brain != elitist.
I guess Matthews is a snobbish elitist in this picture
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/nbc/death_of_tim_russert_matthews_in...
you people may be correct. i think he's revealing how absurd it is to frame
obama as an elitist. matthews knows there are simpletons who think in
those terms. trying to find neutral with matthews requires a long term
relationship...he's all over the spectrum from my viewing experience...
but the NET result is neutral in my mind. i don't take it too serious.
bullfrog @ 114:
I know about Newman and I'm personally very saddened. We decided editorially several months back to not do obit threads any more, because there were just a few sick individuals that ruined them, opting instead to do the In Memoriam segment on Sunday to acknowledge them.
My kitchen actually has quite a bit of Newman's Own, not only salad dressing, but marinara sauce and cookies. Did you know that a couple of months ago, Newman donated his ownership share of Newman's Own to charities, some $120 MILLION dollars?
He was an amazing man.
Chris Matthews... I like him about 20% of the time I hear him. The other 80% of him is a blabbermouth full of nonsense.
God I miss Tim Russert.
I gotta confess I used to sorta play/think in this juvenile way, too. The problem is this, though. Yes, 99.7% of all people who are overly confident in, and self-obsessed about, their coolness DO wear shades, and they often wear them in low-light conditions where they are not really warranted for eye or annoyance protection. They are a cool-dude accessory, that's true. BUT not everyone who wears shades is a cool-guy a-hole. They do serve a useful purpose, and if people want to protect their eyes and do that with glasses that look nice on their face (just as people tend to wear clothes they feel flatter them), that's okay.....right?
But not in Matthews-World.
I suppose Obama should just go around squinting, and instead of flying around on a jet for his campaign, drive a 7-year-old pickup truck with a couple of rust spots.
Maybe some one should clue Chris in: More U.V. rays are pouring in and more people, especially those past 50 are experiencing macular degeneration. I hate sunglasses, but I wear them on advice of my ophthalmologist, who insists that his children wear them. Just think about it. Cases of skin cancer have sky-rocketed in the last decade or so; all the result of more U.V. rays getting through our "protective" atmosphere. Why wouldn't this spell trouble for unprotected eyes, obviously more delicate than the skin?
Not only has the American corporate news media been complicit in war crimes for profit, but they hire the most ill informed people on earth. Climate change is not just some silly issue for politicians to argue about. It's real and it's already effecting the health of people all over the world in ways they don't even suspect yet.
Wearing sunglasses is not cool anymore. It's a sign of informed intelligence. That Matthews doesn't know that says more about him than it does Obama. Maybe he wasn't one of the cool kids at his high school. As I recall, the cool guys didn't talk a lot. That would sure account for why Chris wasn't considered cool. If someone taped his mouth shut his head would explode.
If Obama is elite for wearing sunglasses, will Chris feel better if we bring Michael Jordan back? I've seen McShame wear glasses too. How come he didn't say anything about that? Stupid fucker has nothing to talk about. Doesn't he have a home to go to or a life outside of the tube? Oh doesn't that poor guy has a little woman waiting for him at home? geezus.
"Sunglasses" are elitist? This, and all the rest of the specious garbage spewed against Obama, is the most idiotic drivel ever leveled in a so-called election.
Korry @ 116:
You missed what he said in the post debate discussion:
John the Elder @ 117:
I wonder what Tweety would have said about Jackie Bouvier Kennedy Onassis. She wore sun-glasses all of her life. And she really was of the "manor born" (as he described Obama last night.).
Chris Mathews wears sunglasses. What does that make him, besides an asshole ?
http://media.photobucket.com/image/chris%20matthews/lindacourt/Barack/IM...
Morons. People should see sunglasses as protection from ultraviolet radiation, which is damaging to the retina and in particular to the cornea. UV exposure contributes to yellowing of the cornea over time, and can also contribute to the growth of cataracts.
WEAR YOUR SUNGLASSES GODDAMMIT!
My wife and I canceled our cable subscription because of people like matthews. Try it, it's actually quite a liberating experience. Just keep your ISP.
Enough is enough,MSNBC, get rid of tweety. I wonder how many people will change their vote because of Obama's sunglasses?.......oh plezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Obama is normal, does that bother you tweety? I,ME,I think.....pack it in tweety,you just ramble on to hear yourself talk.
Nicole Belle @ 130:
John McCain is MARRIED TO PARIS HILTON, for fuck's sake. Why is no one pointing that out?
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