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#OccupyDC Discussed At Congressional Hearing

[Washington D.C. – Members of Congress became involved in the Occupy discussion Tuesday as Republican leaders of the House Oversight Committee held a hearing to discover why camping has been allowed at Occupy D.C., McPherson Square.

The hearing room was filled to capacity with a mix of occupiers, media, curious staff members and police officers. The two-hour hearing ranged from Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) calling the whole thing “baffling” to Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), a self-proclaimed “old country prosecutor” saying “the battle for this republic is going to unravel if the law… is not enforced.”

The law he was referring to is the ban on camping in some national parks. Gowdy grilled Jonathan Jarvis, the director of the National Park Service on the definition of camping.

Jarvis said it was the act of sleeping or preparing to sleep. Given that definition, Gowdy pressed on by asking why the Park Service hadn’t enforced that law.

Jarvis, who has been NPS director since 2009 and was participating in his first Congressional hearing, said they were using discretion with the unique protest. He told the Republican that the protest was a 24-hour-vigil and that absent an emergency or threat to public health or safety “they must be able to continue their vigil.” He did say that the Park Service would begin enforcing camping regulations there “very soon,” meaning that protesters may be given citations or arrested for sleeping in the park.

Timothy Zick, a law professor from William and Mary, agreed with Jarvis. He told the committee that this protest is different in that it seeks to occupy as part of its First Amendment message.

“No permit is required for a demonstration of this size, and no time requirement,” said Zick, “The agency is in compliance with regulations.”

Lurking in the background of the hearing was Rep. Darrell Issa, the Oversight Committee chairman, who fired the first shots in this debate. In December, he ordered a full investigation into Occupy D.C. McPherson after a group of three hunger strikers affiliated with the movement came to his office asking that D.C. representatives be given the right to vote in the federal government.

He was in top form at the hearing, with his hair slicked and his arrogance on full display. At one point, Congressman Lacy Clay (D-Mo.) said “normally I would like to thank the chair for holding this investigation…” but that the tone was on the wrong track and Issa interrupted to say “you’re welcome." Later, he interrupted D.C.’s non-voting representative Eleanor Holmes-Norton as she lamented the fact that no one from Occupy D.C. was invited to speak on their behalf.

“This is not a country where we talk about people and don’t invite them to defend themselves…” said Norton just before Issa cut in to tell her this hearing was intended to be what would happen with the next set of protesters.

Sam Jewler, an Occupy D.C. protester, said the group had tried to contact every member of the Subcommittee on Health and D.C. in order to put forth a witness for the hearing, but no one responded. Instead him and other supporters had to watch silently as they were talked about at one of the highest levels of government.

“We were not allowed to practice our right to free speech at this hearing,” said Jewler.

Elijah Cummings, noticing this disrespect, admonished it.

“I wish we had as much concern about the people that have lost their houses,” said Cummings, “It baffles me. We’ve now had over 118 hearings, 342 witness in this committee and when we ask someone we want bankers to come in to ask about robo-signing and violating the law, the chairman doesn’t want them to come in.

“I guess people who are protesting and are part of Occupy, they look at a hearing like this and say this is why they’re protesting. They see that government; particularly a committee that is supposed to be representing them are not addressing the issues that go to the center of their lives… Maybe the tiny bit of energy we put into this hearing we put in to addressing the things Occupy is worried about and then we don’t have to worry about whether there will be another Occupy.”

Issa walked out of the room each time a dissenting voice spoke and wasn’t even there for the witnesses’ initial statements. He’s currently the second richest member of Congress, with a net worth of $220 million.

Del. Norton used her time to draw links between the Occupy movement and the Civil Rights Movement.

“I came up in a generation of a new tactic too,” said Norton, “No one said during the Civil Rights movement that because of your health we’re going to get you out of this place.”

Then Rep. Joe Walsh spoke. He’s the guy from Illinois who doesn’t pay child support and yells at constituents. He told Jarvis that “D.C. is at a breaking point right now.”

That last comment, caused the local editor of DCist.com to quip on Twitter, “To congressman who said D.C. is at a breaking point because of Occupy D.C.: it’s not. Thanks for the concern, though.”

A few issues regarding health and safety have dominated media coverage of Occupy D.C. since it began on October 3. In early November protesters blocked supporters of Americans For Prosperity from exiting a Koch-sponsored event at the convention center, in January a city health official said there is a rat problem at the camp and a protester left a baby unattended.

Norton, after the hearing, said she had not received wholesale complaints from D.C. residents or businesses.

“I think the National Park Service has been on the right side,” said Norton, “If they don’t want to go to court.”

Protesters affiliated with Occupy D.C. said the possibility of camping citations will not force them to leave.

“I am maintaining a 24-hour vigil,” said Sara Shaw.

“I wouldn’t leave because of a ticket,” said Nate, “I would go to court and express my first amendment right.”

Jeff Light, the attorney who represents Occupy D.C., said he doesn't expect the Park Service to immediately start enforcing the camping ban due to a court order that requires them to give 24-hour notice to him and the court before they do so. He said they have not notified him as of Tuesday afternoon.

Next Tuesday, Light will be in federal court in order to attempt to extend the injunction preventing the Park Service from enforcing the camping ban until there is a full trial, which could be several months from now.

Video of the full hearing is available here - http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/CMc

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bluefeather's picture

of the Bush administration? Never again!


Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

Samson-'s picture

now we have obama free speech zones

joy

Edwin's picture

The speech is free, but so are the batons and pepper spray


far left loon >.<

Kreskin's picture

To compare the Obama and the Obama administration to the Bush / Cheney crime syndicate is Tea Bagger stupid , there is no comparison.


Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .

Samson-'s picture

so you are saying that obama's free speech zones are better than bush's?

fancy walking!

Samson-'s picture

so, just out of curiousity, asking you, the one very wise in the way of obama support...

how would you address this (one of several examples):

Four protesters taken into custody Monday at the University of Texas during President Obama’s visit were asked repeatedly to leave by law enforcement and UT officials, but did not, according to arrest affidavits filed Tuesday.

Of the four arrests, three resulted after the individuals strayed outside a designated “free-speech zone” during Obama’s visit at Gregory Gym, the affidavits said. McCarthy, Seymour and Bush were asked repeatedly to protest in the “free-speech zone,” but declined and were taken into custody, the affidavits said.

here's a video if that helps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gr1BIDi97M

now, if you prefer we can talk about what happened in front of the american legion in minneapolis, or belgrade, montana, or even the university of WI... or others, which ever you prefer

MountainMan23's picture

Interesting that video pre-dates "Occupy" by over a year ..


When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?

Not soon enough!

Samson-'s picture

very sad. the whole effin thing.

Edwin's picture

Thx.

No response from Kreskin yet? Hmmm...


far left loon >.<

Samson-'s picture
:)

i think the response might have been further down... 'the cops are not feds'

dunno

and, btw, the "no edwin" thingy on the other thread--funny, funny, funny

you'a make'a me laugh *pinches fingers*

Nangleator's picture

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), a self-proclaimed “old country prosecutor” saying “the battle for this republic is going to unravel if the law… is not enforced.”

Show me Bush, Cheney and O'Keefe in chains, and I'll listen to your talk about arresting protesters.

Edwin's picture

Yup. Ironic, ain't it?


far left loon >.<

Terrible's picture

That was exactly my first thought too.

Freewayblogger's picture

Are wherever you make them:

http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com/2012/01/gi...

(Funny song too...)

ourwitch's picture

This is what democracy looks like, bitch!

Edwin's picture

He told the Republican that the protest was a 24-hour-vigil and that absent an emergency or threat to public health or safety

This is what scares me. Remember the hazmat suits and the "mysterious white liquid"? Then they can call it terrorism and bring "all their guns" in ablazing. Then they can be renditioned. But in the interest of cutting this short, I won't get into torturing Americans just yet.


far left loon >.<

I'm pretty sure that's the opposite of what he intended to say. Silly man!


Hasa Diga Eebowai

Samson-'s picture

btw, that is a great name.

trey gowdy, wasn't that solomon grundy's sidekick?

and, true to form, gowdy is a champion of 'Prosecuting environmental crimes'.... it just looks his idea of 'environmental crimes' might be a tad bit skewed. backwards, one might say.

Kreskin's picture

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/01... It's plain to see . Am glad I'm not young . We ( mankind ) will do ourselves in yet . Sad to see the remaining protestors and that it's been to no avail for the most part . Xanax anyone ?


Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .

MountainMan23's picture

Chris Hedges recently talked with Kevin Zeese, one of the principal organizers of Occupy DC. When asked about what the next stage is for the Occupy Movement, in part Zeese said:

“We started an Occupy house in Mount Rainier in Maryland,” Zeese said. “Its focus is Occupy the Economy. This is the U.N.’s year of the co-op. We want to build on that. We want to start worker-owned co-ops and occupy our own co-ops. These co-ops will allow Occupiers to have resources so that they can continue occupying. It will allow them to get resources for the community. It will be an example to the public, a public where a high percentage of people are underemployed and unemployed although they have a lot of skills. People can band together in their community and solve a problem in the community. They can create a worker-owned collaborative of some kind. They can develop models of collective living.”

This move will satisfy two objectives. In the first place it moves the Occupiers out of public space where they are vulnerable to (most) harassment by The Powers That Be.

And second, by forming an Occupy House, by taking the Occupy Movement's cooperative living model inside they are living the model for our future, a future that does not depend on the corporations. This is the most important point, because this is what has to happen - to carve out a new community-based social order free from the old order. There are no "demands" that will work. The old system cannot be "tweaked" .. it must be replaced.

Here's the link. Truthdig is down for maintenance now, but the link should work later:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/thank_you...


When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?

Not soon enough!

Kreskin's picture

These cops are not feds , blame the Mayors , the City counsels and the police chiefs for the outrageous BS that's gone down . I know that's probably a little too deep for some of you , sorry .


Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .

Samson-'s picture

Over the past ten days, more than a dozen cities have moved to evict "Occupy" protesters from city parks and other public spaces. As was the case in last night's move in New York City, each of the police actions shares a number of characteristics. And according to one Justice official, each of those actions was coordinated with help from Homeland Security, the FBI and other federal police agencies

.

http://www.examiner.com/top-news-in-minneapol...

and, just so we are all on the same page, most of those mayors kreskin wants to blame are democrats. here in philly our shitty mayor, nutter, paid lip service to occupy until, literally, the day after he was reelected--then they were kicked out. great job!

bluefeather's picture

will be here soon.....


Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

Lobbyistless's picture

This meeting was conceived by our most generous campaign donors. We are here today to figure out how we can screw over the peasants' next protest. It should be clear we have no intention of even asking why they are protesting in the first place. If we let one of the peasants talk, they might tell us something that we aren't interested in hearing in the first place, but should the public at large both catch wind of it and strongly agree with it, we might actually be expected to respond.


"When you're president -- as opposed the head of a private equity firm -- your job is not simply to maximize profits. Your job is to figure out how everybody in the country has a fair shot." - President Barack Obama

at the son-of-a-cops that are spraying the pepper spray in our faces, while beating the crap out of us with night sticks.

"These cops are not feds , blame the Mayors , the City counsels and the police chiefs for the outrageous BS that's gone down . I know that's probably a little too deep for some of you , sorry ."

How is it that we can go from calling the cops "pigs" and the military "baby killing mother fu*cker" in the 60's to making them little uniform wearing "Demi-Gods" these days???

They still kill babies (40,000 plus children under age 8 killed during our "shock and awe); and the cops are still as brutal.

Most middle class White people rarely see the "dark" side of the police and military that people of color (Black, Brown and Yellow) see regularly.

Edwin's picture

I still think of them as pigs and baby killers. Never stopped.


far left loon >.<

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