David Brooks on FTN: Palin not qualified, but she won the debate.
By bluegal Sunday Oct 05, 2008 7:00pm
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David Brooks continues his journey as a conservative apostate. He no longer believes in the Republican Party anymore, but then looks in the mirror and realizes he's a bishop in their church. After admitting that Sarah Palin isn't qualified to be President, Brooks praises her for winning the debate, and opines that so much is "stacked against" John McCain.
It's fascinating to watch Brooks as a stark contrast to the vicious nature of Heather Wilson, who immediately preceded him on Face The Nation.
Wake up, Mr. Brooks, it's time to hang up your "conservative" credentials and abandon the Dark Side.
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David is mistaken. Sarah Palin couldn't win the debate. She didn't answer the questions that were asked of her. She treated the debate like it was a beauty pagent and quoted the talking points that were drilled into her practice sessions. The woman is a empty headed disgrace. Sarah doesn't seem to realize that McSame is abusing her by putting her out there to be the fool she really is. She is walking, talking, living proof the old man has lost his freaking mind and has proven without a doubt that he is not competent to be president. Ths woman is lucky to have reached the positions in the wastelands of AK she has reached. What a laughing stock McSame has made his party.
Brooks is NOT mistaken - he's simply lying outright. Something rethugs can do without even thinking about it - it's as natural as breathing to them. And I'm NOT just saying that. Think about it. I believe it's' completely reflexive - like breathing, swallowing or blinking. Re-Thugs LIE.
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And they are damned good at it too! Like stealing taxpayers dollars on behalf of their cronies. No soul, no problem!
Indeed so. How can you win a debate in which you don't participate because you say at the outset you aren't going to answer the questions? Is this how she would blow off the American people if she became President? It's a scary thought that she would refuse to answer to anyone. Deciding to run in a beauty pageant instead of a vice presidential debate does not make a winner. If McCain/Palin wins, we in the US are truly headed to hell in a handbasket.
Wake up, Mr. Brooks, it's time to hang up your "conservative" credentials and abandon the Dark Side.
What? Like the Democrats are going to let him in? After all his invective, he'd have to pull a Huffington to get through the door.
"Wake up, Mr. Brooks, it's time to hang up your "conservative" credentials and abandon the Dark Side."
Please, Brooks is what he is: The Right Wing's designated Good Cop. He soft pedals Republican bullshit (e.g., Palin won the debate).
Object not found. Is the video up yet or is ti just me?
404s all the way around.
[It's being worked on right now-Sitemonitor]
If you are able to watch the other debates going on (like for Governor, Mayor, Senate or Congress), you do not see any other candidate act out of turn on camera. In fact, you see them (except in rare cases) seriously debating their opponent and adhering to the moderator(s).
But in Palin's case, I believe that she didn't have any respect for the moderator because Gwen Ifill is Black. Judging from her comments about Obama in the past and on the campaign trail today, she has a problem with people of color--especially if they are in power. It was even in her behavior and her body language. She, like McCain, conveyed that disrespect via their condescending natures.
It leaves one to question that if they lack the humanity and humility to deal with people different than themselves, how could they even conduct relations with not only members of the other Branches of government, but across the world?
I find it amazing that Brooks could not see Palin's flagrant disregard for such a tried and true tradition of the election season. I didn't see her behavior as folksy or like a "maverick". It was just plain sickening. It is as if saying by her words and deeds that she is entitled to do whatever she liked without restraint no matter who it hurts. Even more, she didn't even have the self-consciousness to notice how her behavior might be interpreted by the viewing public--especially the undecided voters.
Brooks is simply out of his mind if she won the debate. He is also blind if he didn't see how that woman set women's rights as far back as fifty years with her flirty stupidity.
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Formally and proudly known as "The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein"--until we can change our on-screen names.
Gwen Ifill had a very serious conflict of interest regarding this debate. She is writing a Book on Barack Obama which is to be out on Inauguration day. She did not notify the National Debate Committe or the Mccain Palin ticket of this conflict. If you truly believe Palin was disrespectful, look at it another way. Gwen Ifill totally disregarded the necessity of being open and transparent in her financial motives. She is planning on making plenty of cash on this book.
Who do you think she was rooting for?
In spite of that I thought Gwen Ifill was did a good job.
I will not vote for Barack Obama because he is a far left Socialist, not because he is black/white/arab.
I do not believe in Socialism for this great country. America was built on the principles of Democracy. Let's get our priorities straight.
He seems to be fooling many but, his history is there for those who
look for it.
I would prefer that Captain Brooks go down with the ship.
Okay - Brooks gets the daily "Stupid Award" -- This is SO stupid that I don't even have to say WHY it's stupid.
I hope appreciates that there's a lot of competition for this title and he can be completely ashamed of himself and the remarkably low standards he exhibits that have earned him this award.
Take a bow Stupid. You might want to hold onto your Dunce Cap so it doesn't fall off though.
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Now they're going to start trying to paint McCain as the underdog. And if McCain is the underdog, Obama is the establishment. And since conservatives just love feeling oppressed (no, they really, really do) the base will start getting energized again, McCain's numbers will go up and everything will be tight for a second there.
We'll still win in a landslide, tho.
Yes - Rethugs are the real Whiners. McCain is currently the Whiner in chief. Gramme will be Chief Deputy Whiner - he's almost as good at it as McIdiot. Even Palin shows promise -- "Katie Couric annoyed me!" -- "The press is censoring me!", "What about my one phone call for help?"
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Maybe he dug Palin’s Advice: Put MORE Vice in the Vice Presidency
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=3752
The Republican Party has been intellectually corrupt for a L-O-N-G time. Mr. Brooks, here, proves it again.
Their "grain-of-truth" MEGA-LIES-logic has grown old and tiresome.
Their system-wide compulsion to parrot "talking points" on EVERY ISSUE by EVERY PUNDENT AND TALKING HEAD has turned our national discourse on real issues into a county fair demolition derby. They are presently driving their crippled 1987-Chevy-Station-Wagon-of-a-campaign backward around the track... knocking it into every target they can find... trying to keep from puncturing its radiator... even though three tires are FLAT, and the engine just blew a rod.
These people will say anything to feel right. We're nothing but masses of ignorant poor "Americans", and they rule. They don't give a fuck....country first my ass!
David Brook's brain: R.I.P.
There is a lot stacked against John McCain. His background, his VP pick, his lack of understanding of much of anything, his inability to use teh email, and, uh, the truth.
Need I continue?
The only thing Palin won was saying the secret word "also" 50 times of the 57 times it was uttered during the debate. What manner of dialect was that anyway?
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She's FOLKSY!! Yep, yep - you betcha'!
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she set a record for nodding winks.
adult valley girl
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by golly, garsh darnit!!
...is known as "Fake."
Watch some of her earlier gubernatorial debates, any press conferences, etc., and she doesn't talk like that. I've seen this woman in local politics for years, and I never saw this from her until she joined McCainCorp.
She's being coached by an acting coach. It's pretty obvious.
Main reason being I don't want my videos being filled with such worthless space.
I want the player to be the size of the video, not the size of the header.
Looks like 1994.
David brooks will dance to it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCoAAPLsFiI
"... and opines that so much is "stacked against" John McCain."
If so much is stacked against John McCain, it's because McCain himself did the stacking. Fully aware that opinion is unfavorable to Bush, McCain's chief foreign policy adviser is Randy Scheunemann from the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), the same think-tank that Bush drew his advisers from, and the architects of the Iraq war and proponents of Middle Eastern nation building, called "benevolent global hegemony". McCain calls it "rouge state rollback".
On fiscal policy, McCain want's to cut taxes for all, driving up the deficits further, mirroring Bush's fiscal policy. So, from a policy perspective, McCain is 4 more years of Bush.
McCain's pronouncements that the "fundamentals of the economy are strong" showed a clear indication that McCain didn't have a clue about the economy. I would whine that his choice of Mr. Enron, Phil Ghramm as financial adviser shows bad judgment. His choice of Palin as VP is bad judgment. McCain thinks the employer paid group health insurance is bad.
So, Bush stacked some of the deck against McCain, but McCain himself has been doing plenty more stacking.
There go your job prospects in the Corporate Media.
should tell anyone all they need to know about mcC*nt's economic policies.
why?
p.s. i hate the new commenting format that makes me go through 3 pages just to get here... the window at the bottom of comments was so handy...
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Reversal in Palin Case
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: October 5, 2008
ANCHORAGE (AP) — Seven Alaska state employees have reversed course and agreed to testify in an abuse-of-power investigation against Gov. Sarah Palin.
Ms. Palin, the Republican nominee for vice president, is the focus of a legislative inquiry into whether she abused her office by firing the public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan. Mr. Monegan says he was dismissed because he would not fire the governor’s former brother-in-law.
Lawmakers subpoenaed seven state employees to testify in the inquiry, but they challenged those subpoenas. A judge rejected that challenge last week. Because of that ruling, the Alaska attorney general, Talis Colberg, says, the employees have decided to testify.
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2008/ 10/ 06/ us/ politics/ 06palin.html
Probably not written yet, but a software program that would allow seeing all new comments more easily is what is really needed in this new format. Running discussions have been the norm here for years, now our conversations have been compartmentalized much like Americans have been by those who would manipulate us.
Good. Maybe we'll see how Criminal Barbie looks in orange. Maybe her and Stevens can be cellmates as part of their cost cutting campaign.
While we're at it, why don't we have an election to also replace all of these usless, old, worn-out, dumb, blowhard people who also pretend to be journalists!
Also, Sarah isn't qualified to be VP, and David Brooks also isn't qualified to have an opinion about anything logical or political!
Begala: McCain sat on board of racist group
"After pointing out that Obama was eight years old when Ayers' planned the attacks, Begala believes "guilt by association" attacks are dangerous territory for McCain.
Begala said, "This guilt by association path is going to be trouble ultimately for the McCain campaign. You can go back -- I have written a book about the candidate. A dozen researchers go through him. I didn't even put this in the book. John McCain sat on a baord."
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Begala_McCain_s...
OK David---so that's the new talking point from Republiborg HQ? We have a loser, but we won? What are you, mentally ill? Oh that's right, you're a Neocon, never mind. Get into detox asap and cleanse yourself of that Rovian poison.
the nytime has precipitously falling circulation, along with the acquisition of KKKristol of Fux.
Hey, I'm getting used to the new layout, congrats, but the big C&L banner up top should link to home as well-it goes nowhere.
-Chester Suggestion
Joseph Goebbels would be proud of Mr. Brooks. If you tell a lie enough times some people will think its the truth.
Poor Schieffer. He must be crushed that Crash Flyboy's POW credentials aren't winning the election for him. Is it possible that the American people don't think being shot down and spending time as a prisoner of war are actually qualifications to be president? This must come as a huge disappointment to Schieffer. Maybe he and Wesley Clark can discuss the issue again after the election.
You know, if McCain had any sense at all he would have refused to bring that issue up even once. His humility would have put him over the top. As it is he is struggling to get out of the prison he has built for himself. Trapped inside the walls of the losing candidate's houses.
mcAsshat doesn't listen to anyone as smart as you.
A Bridge to no Underwear.... LMAO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPE6_jGBlDc
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/...
And she richly deserves this treatment with the common language she employs.
Props to that editor. VERY funny!
i can't stand liars. are any other descriptives really necessary? palin, it's the new word for LIAR.
not qualified in any way.
read that, snow strumpet. hope your jesus horse stubs a toe and throws you into a steaming pile of moose droppings.
sorry, temporarily no longer amused, just disgusted.
the word mcCain? that is synonymous with liar and predates palin by 30 years.
for bringing me back down to the ground on this.
except palin, lying...
not new to her... getting coached by old master, fine
she is an eager apprentice however... so...
still disgusted...
these pigs, they should look at themselves, and just give up the thing to obama.
rant rant rant
fooba fooba fooba
oh yeah, all ties in to brooks as...
dumping bullshit only slightly more convincingly than before = "won"...
most people don't know the difference, staggering at times how little attention they pay, but this j.a. knows better...
what happens to these people really, what goes on in the head.
all done.
what is not verified?
Apparently verification requires login and confirmation of username. I tried unsuccessfully to do so, but others here are now verified/certified/branded.
Hopefully one of them can detail the process...
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Here's the rest of the story.
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Mudshark--
Did you confirm your old name, or register as a new user? The former didn't work for me.
Amazing how much winning a debate looks like avoiding answers to questions you don't want by trying to flirt like a cheap tramp with the idiots watching at home.
Rolling Stone. Make-Believe Maverick: A closer look at the life and career of John McCain reveals a disturbing record of recklessness and dishonesty.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27034445
Test,
Whoa don't be inviting him to cross over.
Best he remain in the ignoramus club.
Speaking of of ignoramus we're at the mercy of these guys this week. Fasten your seat belts. It's vomit comet week.
http://tinyurl.com/4qpvr8
I don't want him to "abandon the dark side". HE is partly responsible for this heinous administration and the crimes they have committed.
He is nothing more than an empty shirt shill for the neocon/fascist movement in this country, and he needs to go DOWN with the ship....he and all the other treasonous slime balls.
Agreed.
Brooks on the Dems "side" would be no different than a snitch. Yeah, he'd do all your dope, then turn around and rat you out to the cops for a buck.
Let the f*cker drown.
One suggestion re: site - I liked the comments being numbered because it's easier to return to a particular comment later by remembering the number, rather than going through the entire thread.
agreed
He's the guy that sweeps up after the elephants in the parade.
ROFLMAO She showed she's not Bush? Are you kidding me? She's Bush in a skirt!
Brokks like many other anaylisis are hoping for a play with Sarah just in case she dumps Todd. Sarah is a flirt and has gotten this far by using her sexuality on men. Don't think old man Senator Stevens hasn't been there. She runs with the boys and plays with the boys as she didn't with the affair with her husband's business partner. Sarah found out long ago she couldn't make it on brains so she used her body and looks to get over. Brooks most likely thought that wink was for him or at lease he hoped it was. Now don't think McCain isn't thinking about ordering more viagra while traveling with Sarah. Todd is willing to get the left over as he stands there and looks stupid.
And what debate did Palin win? It sure as hell wasn't the one with Sen Biden. Ah, but I am quite sure every GOP fan was wearing their PerspectiVision goggles, and since she didn't inanely ramble, they consider that brilliance on her part.
McCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
McCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
McCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
McCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
McCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
He was on with Jim Leher and x on PBS right after the debate. He didn't say she won then. Someone got to him; paid him off to change his tune...
Brooks was on with Jim Leher and Mark Shieldson PBS right after the debate. He didn't say she won then....he saud it was even! Someone got to him; paid him off to change his tune...
ever heard of intellectual honesty? Brooks tries to be real and you rip him. Is there anything anyone can do to win you bluegal...or anyone. Partisan hacks are so old. actually make me want to puke
The New political party - the uncommitted. One commentor offered the opinion that the uncommitted are those who chose to vote for Nader, Barr or McKinney and referred to republican or democratic voters as non-thinkers.
http://roschellenelson.blogspot.com/2008/10/n...
Palin was wired:
http://beertap.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/palin...
Otherwise how could she have put together so many semi-coherent sentences?
And was she chewing gum? WTF? If elected would she leave chewed gum under the chair in the VP's office or god forbid oval office?
Brooks stated here that he's afraid Conservatives are not adapting to the era. Apparently he's never bothered to look up the definition of the word "conservative" in the dictionary. Sticking to outdated totems when faced with new challenges, is precisely what separates conservatives from rational people, also known as liberals.
The notion that the VP debate demonstrated any sign of Palin's competence for such an important public office is absurd. Brooks is embarrassing himself.
WTF was the point of continuing the interview after he said that Palin wasn't qualified? And winning the debate? What debate was he watching, unless victory is when you don't answer the questions given to you.
Well, I hope Brooks is right (for once).
It's gonna be a horrid few weeks...
I hope we can live through it.
By the way, new site looks sweet!
I'm a liberal Democrat, and I think David Brooks is interesting and intelligent. I very much think the blind partisanship is blind partisanship on either side. People who think that anything remotely conservative or Republican is evil are just as bad as the wingnuts. Here we have a reasonable conservative, who while believing in conservative ideas, is willing to tell the truth about Republicans. We should be glad that he isn't a partisan robot like Monica Crowley (anything and everything is good for Republicans). Why do you hate on David Brooks? So, if agrees with the Republicans he's evil, and if he disagrees with Republicans, he's confused and a liar? What's wrong with you people? We Democrats are supposed to be the intelligent, thinking, reasonable ones. Aren't we?
please appreciate the frustration that many progressives have with respect to Brooks.... Yes he is purported to be intelligent and articulate; but therein lies the problem..... He can espouse conservative ideology while still recognizing the prevailing reality. I too am a progressive but not overly partisan and was a huge fan of McCain in 2000. Candidly I preferred him not just over Bush but also over Gore. But... anybody in the middle of the ideological spectrum or even on the extreme ends of same.... anybody watching this debate not impaired by drugs alcohol or some significant intellectual handicap could not honestly say that Palin won this debate. In fact she did not show up to debate by her own admission.... Biden won if not on substance by default as Palin would not answer questions put to her but provide answers to issues that she raised herself....
She is a category 5 moron and Brooks is either a serial liar or delusional.
I also understand that he is of the Jewish faith; he should really examine Palins associations with committed anti-semites with respect to the churches she associates with. Those associations should concern Brooks far more than the casual acquaintanceship Obama had with Bill Ayers years ago.
Hey, the guy just wants to get paid, so he'll say anything no matter how stupid he looks.
David Brooks is like many of his contemporaries in the GOP , only somewhat more polite .
He has even admitted to liking and admiring Barack Obama as have others
from the dark side . Of course that was early in the campaign war . You
won't hear that now .
Long time republicans cannot accept the fact that their party has been
kidnapped by fascists of the first order , hell bent for leather on a
mission to restructure the world in their warped image of Globalism .
The New World Order is not working . Free markets , free trade and other
cliches are not free at all , as we are finding out now .
Government is not the problem ............. bad Government is the problem .
Nevada Bob
It's guys like david brooks that get me sick. He's a bright guy, no doubt about it, but he continues to laud the republican cause. To play up Pallin as having won the debate is pure nonsense and he know it. How does someone win by looking cute and uttering "you guys," and "hockey moms?" Brooks, if you want to continue being thought of as astute, then quite the bullshit and start hitting the truth. otherwise, you're just a hack.
please use proper spelling.
Otay, Panky.
where is the pic of nicole? everyone knows she is hot...
Brooks is just saying that Palin isn't qualified to lick Obama's shoes.
Brooks is just a pretender. He pretends to be open minded occasionally but you can see that it is just a mask for his real intention. As a Republican "Bishop", he is supposed to be the rational person that convinces Democrats to vote Republican. Of course, it is a tough sell and so he occasionally makes ridiculous statements like the one about Palin "winning" the debate. I like "Bishop Brooks". We need to title the rest of the Republican 5th column that the media insists on foisting upon is as "independent journalists".
Deacon "Richard Cohen"
Arch Deacon "Pat Buchanan"
David Brooks wants it both ways. He wants his conservative readers and talk-show hosts to see that he is defending the Republican ticket by awarding the debate to Palin, undeservedly. He wants to hold onto his credibility with the rest of the world by tacitly admitting that she's, well, worthless as a Vp candidate.
David should just man up and admit that his beloved Republicans picked a couple of losers this time.
Two points. David, when have conservatives ever focused on core issues to win elections? They have always concentrated on defense, abortion, religion.
Second, by your own admission, Palin is not qualified to be Vice President much less the Commander in Chief. So how do you come to the conclusion that she won the debate if she lacks the knowledge and depth to run the country...
Reminiscent of when Brooks lost any shred of credibility that he had left by saying Dumya won his "Want some wood?" debates with Kerry.
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