Open Thread
By bluegal Tuesday Mar 10, 2009 7:30pm
I think of this one as "doomsayer meets the process guy." From the splendid hand-embroidered (!) comic strip at Stricken Pot Pie. Open thread below....
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Gitmo prisoners: We planned 9/11 -- Detainees file document with commission claiming to have plotted attacks.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/10/us/10gitmo....
yeah if thier ......mossad!
even if "torture-coerced confessions" could be taken seriously, don'cha think, o?
from a post by Tuesday-Morning at democratic underground:
Larisa calls bullshit and I agree.
http://www.atlargely.com/2009/03/we-are-being......
March 10, 2009
We are being spoon-fed stupid again...
Can someone explain to me how 5 suspected members of Al Qaeda (although there is no question regarding KSM) suddenly got their own PR machine from inside Gitmo and at the hands of a military judge, not to mention getting a world stage through which to frighten Americans some more? And the media? Well, they are too well versed is stupid to ask any sensible questions:
5 alleged Al Qaeda members issue a statement of guilt, an incendiary statement rejoicing at the lost American lives of those attacks 7 years back, through a filing with the court. This filing is accepted by the court despite some of the attorneys not being made aware that this was going to be filed or what was going to be declared on behalf of their clients. Moreover, defying President Obama's ruling putting a halt on all Gitmo military commissions, the judge on the case not only accepted this filing, but also released it to the public.
Does anyone else find this just all a bit too well timed, not to mention idiotic? Seriously, what purpose could this serve in helping the American cause or in keeping the nation safe?
more at link
http://www.atlargely.com/2009/03/we-are-being......
I can't get those links to work.
http://www.atlargely.com/2009/03/we-are-being...
thx.
I was just wondering what so called professional journalists thought about this particular issue and revelation. Of course they are for the most part like children on drugs hoping for leaders to follow and grant them credibility, prestige, and money. My god. Hunter S. Thompson would probably puke at this shit. Bill Hicks, no wonder he got sick. Muckraking has been turned into a joke. I tell you its just like the molesting priests. No one wanted to admit it, but finally the victims were heard, the damn broke and everyone acted like they knew it.
"In times of change, the patriot is a scarce man; brave, hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." - Mark Twain
oh, are these the "fall guys"? Too many people finding the real story, huh?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/melissa-rossi/o...
Yeah, I guess when the "truthers" start hitting some Mainstream outlets, it becomes time to put out more propaganda. The timing seems really suspicious.
look for madoff to die of a heart attack and have a closed coffin funeral service before he can get to be a prison bitch ,ken lay style!
And look for otherwise intelligent and competent journalists to look the other way and pretend to be incompetent when it comes to connecting dots. Barry Jennings died too. Dr. Bruce Ivins. Deborah Jeane Palfrey. Pat Tillman. Gary Webb. Mike Connell. In Vain.
Here's a tribute to Ken Lay.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7741...
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Want to talk about media bias? How's this for media bias?
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-03/11/...
enjoy some tuesday night reading...
MAYER AMSCHEL ROTHSCHILD
JACOB ROTHSCHILD
NATHANIEL ROTHSCHILD
ANNABELLE NEILSON (FORMERLY ANNABELLE ROTHSCHILD)
EVELYN ROBERT DE ROTHSCHILD
LYNN FORESTER DE ROTHSCHILD
DAVID MAYER DE ROTHSCHILD
feel free to addsome rothschilds to the list, there are plenty to choose from...
Here's Aaron Russo's take on the powerful Rockefeller Family.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA
Here's Luke Rudkowski's respect for the Rockefeller Elder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHNeFU6MnGU
And that's just the way it is...
I learned about the Rothschild's mostly here.
The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America
and disturbing. Thanks, O.
He's the real deal. A cool guy. You can tell. The whole interview is just over an hour and worth it. He really impressed me when I first came across him. Putting others above himself etc. Believing in actual things like that. Plus he's cool for helping out Bette Midler and Eddie Murphy and Dan Ackroyd. Got some legitimacy to him so to say. Hopefully you've seen his documentary too.
Who is this Nick Rockefeller person? Why isn't he being investigated? Questions, questions ... very troubling.
Where there ain't no will there ain't no way.
but some of the stuff he was talking about was a bit iffy.
The Rockefellers behind Women's Liberation? WTF is he talking about?
he's talking about how the people at the top only care about money and power -they don't care about the "petty" crap peasants squabble over. they'll take any side of a moral issue; whichever one furthers their goals.
i believe russo would say the breakdown of the american family makes us easier to control, from the standpoint of NWO types.
i was hoping somebody'd show up with some informative links about america's very own real-life monty burns, DAVID ROCKEFELLER.
don't you just love how these guys get their pics kept off their wiki pages? c'mon, rocky! smile for the cameras!!
A family hobby? A different family?
here's a good one of jacob rothschild.
here's one of nat rothschild (rumored to be the richest rothschild of them all.)
here's evelyn.
here's his lovely wife, lynn forester (an occasional contributer to the huffington post.)
and here's young david, son of evelyn. (david has been a guest on alex jones' show).
... enforces Israeli veto of Obama intelligence pick.
Fuck the Israel Government. I don't know what the fuck they think they are doing in America trying to influence our asses. They don't need to be spying on us or meddling in our political process. I wish them all the best of course, the people, but as far as screwing our process over they can kiss my ass. And enough with that money too. My tax dollars have enough problems to deal with in our own Country for awhile. Does that make cents.
Israel gets their billions early, all at once, and with no strings attached. If I were given billions that way, the first thing I would do would be to dedicate as much as necessary - and then some - to guarantee my billions next year.
We're funding our own subversion.
There was other support for Freeman. Of course the MSM doesn't give them any credibility because they are always right.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/031009a.html
I've also had it!!!! I've had it with TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!! I've had it with listening to that 'Governmant' whine, whine, whine!!!!, and AIPAC funding all that whining!!!! All those millions ea. year and they still havn't grown up!!!!! GET OFF THE DOLE, ISRAEL!!!! You'd be a lot more credible!
One in fifty American children are homeless.
The UAW bends over for Ford. Madoff decides to get it over with. SCOTUS wants to insure no chances of a future Obama. One rep has a personal investment in stem-cell research. The Dalai Lama's getting tired of China's "college pranks". Tiananmen Square'09? Obama's granny helps nuke some tsetse flies. The IMF admits things aren't rosy. Another gun-nut-this time in Alabama. The Brits still haven't taken care of the Irish question. Seven hundred people don't mind being hired for janitor work in Ohio. Obama's tired of stupid teachers, too. Iran is still mostly harmless.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29493093/
aside from the republicans.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/030909.html
And Consortium News could use a buck or two from all of us. Go to Ron's link, and if you can, drop them a couple of bucks. With the newspapers going under, there will be little real investigative journalism going on and without the likes of TPM, Propublica and Consortium (and others), we will not have real information to link to.
The AP is already threatening blogs not to use their content, which is fine with me since they are hardly a source of journalistic integrity of late. McClatchy is laying of something like 15k people.
If you can, support the sites you visit and value. I know times are tough for everyone, but if we want to keep informed, we need this.
Do what you can for Amato and the others you read - including Consortium.
"If we don't fight hard enough for the things we stand for, at some point we have to recognize that we don't really stand for them."
-- Paul Wellstone
"I'm just a patsy" ~ Lee Harvey Oswald
“Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” ~ Martin Luther King Jr.
The United States.
if you can get me some fire crews up here we can get this fire out! fire chief tower 2
Exactly right. The best. The First Responders who everyone acted so in awe of after 9/11. Now they get mainly ignored. That quote is important. But too uncomfortable for polite society people to actually pay attention to. Just like so many others.
committed to win in 2010 and 2012.
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/rnc-sinks...
Remember all the fake patriotism after 9/11. Never Forget Bullshit and all that. Now they say forget about Osama. Forget About the Anthrax. I say Never Forget about the Anthrax. Never Forget.
"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nation will accept the New World Order." -- David Rockefeller
"the process of transformation.. is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor." -- PNAC document September of 2000.
Connect the dots. Disaster Capitalism. Shock Doctrine Style Politics. It ain't that hard. Those Naomi's explained it pretty well. Of course you have to use that thing called memory and recall once in awhile. I'm sick of fake Patriotism. It should be called out and laughed at at every instance. Just like hypocrisy.
Or you can trust your leaders and your government...
“Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do. ”
- Rudy Giuliani.
1984 was a pretty good book to help you decide which path to follow which fate to face.
and propaganda about "Card Check."
http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/acorn_secret_b...
Oh crap, what have I done?!?
GAAAAHH!!
I hope you haven't opened that can of worms again.
Brit spHume
of a can of worms.
The Ayatollah of the Republican Party
Outhouse.
bluegal.
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/badgert...
the original..
http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/
Not dirty. :P
No badgers in Kenya.
I like it. I think it's an endless loop.
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/kenya+live/
show you no stinkin badgers!
Barry finally speaks out against the Sudan genocide. The Army says "'Tis but a fleshwound" to its less-abled vets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMkth8FWno
I hope this is brought to her attention! That is just sick what they are doing to these wounded soldiers.
Jon Stewart's on going battle with CNBC. Just knew Jon wouldn't let Cramer get away with his whines on Scarborough. Wonder if Cramer will show up as scheduled on March 12 on the Daily show?
Bet ya Cramer takes the Santelli option and cancels his appearance on TDS.
Funny, seems Cramer can't take the heat. Looks like he's gone running home to mamma (CNBC, MSNBC, NBC) with his tail between his legs and a teardrop in his eye.
Can't blame Cramer (well, yes, actually you can). Jon Stewert's nothing but a homewrecker. Remember Stewart's appearance on Crossfire? Result: no more Crossfire and Tucker Carlson hasn't wore a bow tie since.
I was very surprised to see Shuster on Countdown last night dissin' Cramer. Since both are NBC stations. But GOOD ON HIM! I give old Dave a bunch of credit for that one!
That Crossfire piece is priceless!
Absolutely! I can't watch that clip often enough.
not going to let Bush administration off the hook.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#29624475
I think that is the wrong link. I was looking for that story...about the group which is investigating Bush for war crimes (which is what you are referring to, I assume).
May your future be brighter.
by Scott Horton in Harpers.
Delta and United are forced to cut down on int'l. flights. The LAUSD lays off 8,800 staff-members.
7 Terrifying Global Warming Pictures (Slide Show) - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/03/terri...
Hope it gets the point across...eh Deniers/Extinctionists/'Skeptics'?
BBC: "Scientists at a climate change summit in Copenhagen said earlier UN estimates were too low and that sea levels could rise by a metre or more by 2100. The projections did not include the potential impact of polar melting and ice breaking off, they added."
- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/793...
Obama EPA reconsiders air pollution rules - http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/143157...
"The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency will reconsider a request by North Carolina to hold 11 neighboring states to tighter air-pollution standards. The EPA's about-face under the new Obama Administration is the latest legal twist in a five-year effort by North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper to curb air pollution blowing across the mountains from upwind states.
About a third of the state's counties do not meet federal standards for ozone or fine-particle pollution. The U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C., directed the EPA to reconsider North Carolina's petition after the agency conceded that its legal justification for denying it had disappeared. The ruling was issued late Thursday and announced today.
The eventual agency regulations could affect utilities in 11 Eastern and mid-western states extending to Ohio and Pennsylvania."
Potomac Coal Ash Spill Could Reach Washington DC - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/10/poto...
Looks like it's happened again -- a large quantity of wet coal ash has spilled into the North Branch Potomac River in Maryland, according to the Maryland Department of the Environment.
The Natural Resource Defense Council points out that spilling coal ash into a river upstream from Washington, DC, is a hell of a way to get the attention of lawmakers: I don't know how long it'll take for the spill to reach DC proper, but its a hell of a way to send a message about how much we need to regulate the handling of this stuff.
Big News: Obama's Budget Passes Senate and Will Go to His Desk for Signing. "Senators passed the measure by voice vote after voting 62-35 to shut down debate."
- http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090310/ap_on_go_...
Corporatist Democrats vs. Obama; Corporate wing of Democratic party fights to keep tax cuts for rich - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/10/us/politics...
Obama's Treasury Secretary: "I think capitalism will be different, and the financial system will be dramatically different. It’s already dramatically different."
- http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/...
Alabama gunman kills 9 before taking his own life - http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asec...
He fired a 30-round burst with what appeared to be an M16 rifle, grazing Police Chief Frankie Lindsey with a bullet. Why does a non-SWAT/non-military person need this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M16_rifle
Just another reason to reinstate the assault weapons ban...bring back the AWB please...
Foreign Policy In Focus: Battle Over Bases - http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/5928
In total, the Pentagon claims it has 865 base sites outside the 50 states and Washington, DC. Notoriously unreliable, this tally omits bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, among other well-known and secret bases. A better estimate is 1,000.
While ultimately the motivation behind the Bush reorganization plan was the neoconservative dream of endless U.S. global domination, the previous administration was right to criticize the basing network as outdated, bloated, and profligate. In the midst of an economic crisis, there has never been a more critical time to dramatically shrink the U.S. web of overseas bases.
Dean Baker: If Private Insurers Compete with Government, They'll Lose - http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/03/10
We all know that people have different ideologies about the proper role of government. Some people, who tend to be left of center, think that the government's role is to try to promote the general good, by providing basic services, protecting the poor and the sick, and ensuring a well-working economy.
On the other hand, there are others, who usually place themselves right of center, who believe that the proper role of government is to redistribute as much income as possible to the wealthy. These competing views of government are coming to a head in the debate over national health care reform.
Those who think that the role of government is to serve the public good are likely to favor some form of universal Medicare. Such a system would almost certainly save a huge amount in administrative costs at the level of insurers, providers and government oversight.
Bill Gallagher: Republicans Rant, Rot and Revolt Against Truth - http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/20666
LaHood Hits Back Hard Against Charges Of "Socialism," "Obama Recession" - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/10/laho...
Stem cells: A Victory For Science - http://pr.thinkprogress.org/2009/03/pr2009031...
Republican 'Great Economy' Update: More than 24 million Americans shifted in 2008 from lives that were "thriving" to ones that were "struggling"
- http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2009-03...
Treason anyone? We Surround Them; a movement of right wing cell groups to be unveiled on Fox "News" Channel Friday
- http://www.examiner.com/x-2071-DC-Special-Int...
Fox Noise...the televised edition of the Weekly World News....
Stimulus Dollars Energize Efforts To Smarten Up the Electric Power Grid - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Why the Corporatocracy must end: Despite Economic Turmoil, Top Pay for Top Execs Continues: Motto Among Big Brass Appears to Be 'Ignore the Bad News'
- http://bulldogreporter.com/ME2/Audiences/dirm...
Introduction of bill restoring the right to organize signals beginning of end of economic downturn - http://www.examiner.com/x-2071-DC-Special-Int...
BBC: Iran 'has no bomb-grade uranium' - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7935947.stm
Jon Stewart Rips a New One Into CNBC's PR Shill, Cramer - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/10/jon-...
Cramer (One of CNBC's Infotainment Wall Street Cheerleaders) Vs. Stewart Continues. Message to Cramer: Stewart Always Wins, Because He's Got Reality on His Side. - http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/l...
Set your DVRs & Tivos for (tomorrow night) Thursday at 11pm, Cramer due to be on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart...
Bending to growing public and legal pressure that began in San Francisco, six major companies have agreed to stop selling hard-plastic baby bottles containing bisphenol A, an industrial chemical suspected of harming human development.
- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/...
Obama Calls for Overhaul of Education System; There's a lot to do - http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/10...
You can start with scrapping (NCLB), which is an assault on public education...the foundation of our democracy...
Sweden's Inspiring Plan to Phase Out All Fossil Fuel Burning Cars by 2030 - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/03/swede...
5 Ways to Power the Green Cars of the Future - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/03/5-way...
Honda Insight Hybrid to be Sold for $19,800 - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/03/new-h...
Rush Limbaugh the Republican Global Warming Mouthpiece - http://www.desmogblog.com/rush-limbaugh-repub...
The mass amounts of hot air spewed forth daily by self righteous right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh are probably a significant contribution to the warming of our planet. Someone should do a study to confirm this.
Many on the right in Washington regard Limbaugh as a hero. In fact, the rumor on Capitol Hill is that Senator James Inhofe (R-OK) has a Limbaugh poster stapled to the ceiling over his bed, so he can wake up to his "glorious leader" every morning. But that' just a rumor. (I believe it completely)
Watching the Watchmen...the movie version of the comic book amps up the energy message. - http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2009/3/9/954...
Movie Review: The Age of Stupid - A Lot of Stick And Not Much Carrot - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/03/the-a...
Jesus, Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (And Why We Don't Know About Them) by Bart D. Ehrman
- http://www.buzzflash.com/store/items/1514
reporter asks Guilani why were you and your office staff not in your building 7office on 911? [Guilini] ,i was warned not to be there that day! reporter, who warned you? mumble mumble cant say !
Jon Stewarts new BFF may have talked a bit too much...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/business/
i never overestimate the intelligence or curiosty of the american people and im sure our enemys , and politicians dont either, the phraise , dont pay any attention to the man behind the curtains very revelent on the subject of realitys, its so much easier to let ones brains marinate in subjects of mirth and derisions of politicians being stupid, of course thier stupid !the only people stupider then a politicians any one who believes they really want to help you and! the ones who vote for them!
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