Glenn Beck: The breaking point
By David Neiwert Monday Apr 13, 2009 4:30amOK, enough. We finally reached our breaking point with Glenn Beck on Friday night.
Crooks and Liars has always been a watchdog site -- we watch the liars and thieves and crazies who come on your TV sets and we run the clips so you don't have to watch their shows. We always strive to find the wingnuttiest, most hypocritical, most mendacious and outright asinine examples we can find every day -- and nearly always they come from our friends on the right.
But Beck has recently become a special case. Every day for the last couple of months, when we've surveyed the wreckage of that day's right-wing video, Beck's have been the craziest, wingnuttiest shows out there. If he is where the American Right is heading, he bears watching.
But at some point the circuits just overload.
Friday night's show, which was all about extending Beck's previously stated belief that Obama is marching us into fascism, and helping plump Jonah Goldberg's Liberal Fascism thesis, was that point.
Since I'm a student of the subject of fascism, I've written a lengthy response at my blog. But I'm not going to burden C&L readers with it.
We're not going to drop covering Beck altogether. We'll continue to report it whenever he makes a dangerous pronunciamento, of course, because our reasons for monitoring him in the first place have never gone away: His rhetoric is laden with particularly dangerous extremism, and he has the potential to wreak great damage. Indeed, that reason for keeping watch on him couldn't be more acute. And so simply reporting the dangerous stuff will keep him on our front pages enough.
But I dunno about the rest of you, but I've had my fill of the Daily Krazee from Planet Wingnuttia, particularly the silly stuff like the weeping and the ongoing affair with that great right-wing mind, the Spawn of Lucianne. Beck's "912 Project" looks likely to devolve into a cult we can just call Jonahnism. It's been fun, but it's simply right-wing dumbassery for its own sake.
We get it, Glenn. Hopefully everyone else will, eventually, too.
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Yes folks. Coming to an arena near you.
Glenn Beck is taking his show on the road.
http://www.tvsquad.com/2009/04/12/glenn-becks...
PLEASE come to Miami you fascist fuck!
I will throw rotten vegetables at your punk ass!
Likes to hit on the sales ladies at the stations he visits......
Come on Glen, you know you do it.
"-- we watch the liars and thieves and crazies who come on your TV sets and we run the clips so you don't have to watch their shows."
Which is why this is the best blog on the planet!
Thanks John and everybody at C&L.......even that Mike Finnigan character. ;)
It IS a right good blawg innit?
When a major site realizes that it's feeding the publicity beast in covering every unhinged utterance of a Glenn Beck, Ann COulter, Marc Levin, etc. Certainly Mr. Neiwert's other site, along with other organizations that monitor hate groups, can document when rhetoric leads to criminal activities.
But right now Blanche Lincoln is doing 100 times the amount of policy damage than "preaching to the converted" nutcases like Beck could ever dream of doing, and I'd rather see the focus on the policymakers.
Is a fashist someone who insists you don't wear white after Labour Day?
Isn't it just white shoes... and I certainly hope you do not!!!
Glenn Beck has done more positive work for progressive thought than anyone in America with the possible exception of Rush and Obama.
People continue to read, listen or report on this incendiary rhetoric and the mouthpieces that spew it --they will feed the Beast!
Simple reporting on the stupidity of Beck, limpbow and their ilke will be8... sufficient...Go to the legislators that CAN effect legislation and call them on their idiotcy and UnAmerican ideas and rants...1.800.828.049
Beck: John the Baptiste for GOP lies, paranoia, and failure.
Mon, 04/13/2009 - 05:44 — LeftandLeft
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beck not only lies, he's French?
Beck has done a service by helping, along with Rush and other wacknuts, to convince conservatives to stuff their mattresses with their cash (or buy guns with it), while missing out on the recent stock market rally. Not only the political power, but the country's wealth (what Bush left of it) is moving more to those who believe Obama will be successful.
Multi-millionaires Beck and Rush are facing a big tax increase under Obama as the rest of us get a tax break. That's why they're trying to scare and con their base into voting against their own best interests. If fellow Americans get because of their inflammatory rhetoric killed, then so be it. They don't care about America, only themselves. The people Beck and Rush are conning are the same people who think Obama's going to take their guns and who supported Sarah Palin so it comes as no surprise they're taking the bait hook, line and sinker. Thinking America is wise to em.
Free publicity is just what he wants.
This guy is little if not an unhinged moron, and anyone who takes him seriously is an idiot.
... never underestimate the power of stupidity in large groups.
(Not to mention Zappa's advice that stupidity is more abundant than hydrogen and has a longer shelf life.)
And also from Zappa,
Watch out where the Huskies go.
Don't you eat that yellow snow.
are doing a service by pointing out just how crazy the crazies are. How does that equate with publicity? Everyone here knows how bad this guy and others are for America. We are not going to go and watch this guy all of a sudden. All it takes is one time to see just how unpatriotic and partisan this guy is. That is enough. If I never have too see this guy again, that would be great. So all this and other sites are doing by highlighting there wingnuttistry is informing, not publicity.
This guy has to be one of the most disgusting, vile, poisonous, dangerous piece of crap on this planet. He managed to make Michael Savage sound like a sane person.
WWMSD?
the Wiener thinks Beck is too much.
http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/2009040700...
The guy was honest once, he referred to himself as a rodeo clown.
When George Carlin was talking about facism coming back wearing smiley-faced t-shirts he was talking about the people like Beck and his Republican minions!
And when Beck talks about facism proves he clearly doesn't understand what facism is.
by Dave McGowan. I highly recommend it.
Dave's a very interesting researcher. Here's a sampling of his writing I think most here, especially the rock n' rollers from the '60's, would appreciate:
http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html
thanks, Abbyb :)
We are enabling these folks by even discussing them. Ignore them and it will go away. Worked the other way around for the last 8 years.
Because ignoring them gave us Rush Limbaugh as the de facto head of the GOP.
I do not think Rush was ignored leading to his emergence as defacto head of the GOP. I think his rise along with the GOP in the 90's and 2000 led to his becoming the intellectual driving force behind the GOP which in turn led to poloicies which hurt this country and the GOP. He is all that is left.
I don't think ignoring them is a good idea, and I'm certain it won't make them go away, since they are obviously appealing to a certain audience, all be it, a deranged one. Any legitimate form of news media should be exposing this stuff, but as usual, they're far more worried about the President's new puppy than addressing serious issues.
And "ignores" it??
It usually kills them.
Look at Ann Coulter. We ignore her and she keeps popping up periodically.
Personally, I want to know what these people are saying. I don't watch Fox News and have no desire to. So I really appreciate what C&L is doing. Also it seems important to have a ready ammunition of documented clips to sort through when someone like that guy in Pittsburgh listens to what Beck et al are saying and takes matters into their own hands. Having the incendiary evidence against Fox is more beneficial than not.
it's the people who put him on tv who are the scary ones.
People used to think I was retarded
But then they found I out I was just ignoring them.
that we really must concern ourselves with.
is a good line for most of the clowns on this site, including the moderator..
who cares about Beck? he's just a comedian that riles up you i'll informed libs!
when are you folks going to get it? we need to vote out all of the politicians starting with the franks, dodds etc. to get our country back in shape. it's the politico's who have been doing the most damage and we fools keep voting them in.
let's start with a clean slate and have term limits
You're taking your political advice from a 'comedian.'
'Nuff said.
We're just observing you dopes daily car wreck. Each and everytime you people talk(of course, your dumbass included), the more people(who haven't had a lobotomy) run from you scary. sorry fucks...please keep up the good work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmBiORtHqTs
ain't ya?
You're wasting your time, coming in here and brandishing your stupidity like a weapon...
The Franks and Dodds aren't the problem, it's the cantors, the bachmanns, the liebermans, and well practically all the GOP...I know not all Dems are saints either...but the GOP....damn dude...chock full of lying criminal fascists.
... the whole shit sandwich of Beck, FOX, and the idiot right just frackin' implodes on Wednesday when they teabag themselves into irrelevancy.
I think that maybe the time has come for the Dept. of Justice to consider charges of sedition against this, uh, American.
Is that the act of spilling one's screed upon the clowns?
Good pun, Mick.
Good Morning.
Wouldn't that be Jonanism
Or just jism for short?
Or should it be Onanism? Short (no doubt) and to the point.
and spawn him as well.
Jism on the blue dress, blue dress, blues dress...
It's truly frightening to think there are people out there who actually take this nut seriously. He is very dangerous. If this kind of insane rhetoric isn't tamped down, I do fear we will see the consequences. Some of these right wingers were unhinged enough when they were in power. Now that they're out of power, they've come completely unglued. All it takes is a nut case like Beck to push them over the edge. People like Beck are extremists and fanatics. I think we underestimate them at our own peril. I believe there's a direct connection between some of the recent shootings, and the kind of inflammatory paranoid hateful rhetoric spewed by Fox and right wing radio.
That's what happened when I read this:
Crooks and Liars has always been a watchdog site
David, C&L is a watchdog site for Democrats, not truth or patriotism or what is the best for this country.
C&L has become a mouthpiece for the Democratic party.
And, yes, Glenn Beck sucks ass.
But don't fool yourself by your own erroneous description of the place that you are writing at right now. You sure aren't fooling all of us.
There are but a few writers here that aren't in bed with the Dems. And, in my mind, that is even worse than those Bushies in bed with the THUGS.
... that your head is so full of propaganda that you can't recognize truth from shinola.
Please don't tell me that you actually think the Jonah Goldberg/Glenn Beck lovefest has serious intellectual merit and is worthy of discussion?
Or that a president complicit with criminals (your premise) is somehow more acceptable than a writer, who does not effect or implement policy, holding views in keeping with the Democrats?
is the part about glenn beck sucking ass.
"There are but a few writers here that aren't in bed with the Dems. And, in my mind, that is even worse than those Bushies in bed with the THUGS."
that statement says it all right there.
Up yours, ya got that?? Up yours. Don't fool yourself, the repukers are almost finished, that's why they are clawing, and foaming at the mouth to stay alive.....thus the likes of beck, etc....they will say or do what ever will cause more unrest in this BUSH-RAVAGED COUNTRY.
If it were my site, I'd ban you just because you're too far gone.
... doesn't hold water, chump.
Thanks for playing. Here's your parting gift.
Beck does not care about facts or what he says. It is all about ratings and money. The more extreme and wild the better.
I am sure he does not truly believe in half the stuff he says. The more controversial the more ratings.
Best way to treat Beck is to call him a clown.
It is really all about News Corp. and Murdoch for putting such filth on the air. It is they who bring television to a new low.
There use to be some respect given to the U.S. president. To call him a facist should be considered traitorist and extremely unAmerican. If Beck does not like how our democracy works, he should leave the country. I am not sure where he would go though....
The only way to hurt Beck is to get at his advertisers. Make his advertisers aware that they are attaching their name to an unAmerican radical. I am not sure many major brands would want to be attached to this wing-nut.
Start emailing and calling Beck's advertisers.
... is still inciting people to riot.
Humor has its use at the outset, when the hope is that a satirical comment is sufficient to break through whatever illusions or mental jujitsu has people parroting incorrect facts or premises based on same.
It is insufficient to dismiss Beck's antics as humor, no more than you'd continue to call a misbehaving child 'going through a phase' after he's vandalized a neighbor's home for the third time, or gone around poisoning animals.
Really, he needs to be treated like a puppy who has soiled the floor. He needs to be called out, attention directed to the unacceptable behavior, and then he needs to be spanked (FCC fines, or, as you sensibly recommend, contacting his advertisers) so it registers.
Because, like a misbehaving puppy, Beck will keep pooping on the floor until his behavior is corrected. Cleaning up Beck poop shouldn't become a national pastime.
How bad can that be with seltzer bottles, pies and streamers?
Beck is more of an evil-clown-under-the-bed kind of act.
Oh, happy day. What you resist, persists. We're all saturated with the toxic scum of Beck and the rest, so thank you so very, very much.
Oh, and Beck isn't a clown, creepy as clowns are, they don't inspire crazy skinheads of the GOP to go on killing sprees.
The right wing warning about fascism is like Hitler warning about Nazism.
I agree. I think Beck is just a tool used to spew disinformation.
igore user list. It does work.
... sticking my fingers in my ears and singing LA LALA LA LA really loud is making global warming go away, too.
limpbow. Is that what Obama did to the Saudi King?
Bottom feeding troll sucking at the base of the cesspool tank...enjoy.
You know something. I post at one of those 'redneck hick rightwing nut job sites' and we have trolls there as well. One guy in particular posts there daily. No one over there rips into him or calls him names. We treat him and others like him with respect. We value his opinion just as much as anyone else. I guess to expect such a thing from liberals is just too much. Instead of intelligent debate you just start throwing shit around like a bunch of caged monkeys. typical..
I find that quite unbelievable.
Seeing how liberals are treated on faux noise...I doubt seriously that on a rightwing blog they are treated as you say.
Give us a link and put your money where your mouth is.
But...but...but that would be like furnishing proof of one's assertions!
No fair - FAUX Noise never has to do THAT!
and they COULDN'T supply proof, even if they wanted to either...they got nuthin but lies, lies, and more lies.
I was banned on November 5th last year for saying "change has come. You people can now go to another country, like Alabama." Rightmind is of wrong thought.
Most conservative blogs (newspapers and magazine probably excluded) require elaborate sign-ins or don't allow comments all-together.
You're defending GLENN BECK as representative of intelligent debate?
Really?
Holding a different opinion does not mean it is automatically worthy of respect or consideration in 'intelligent debate.' You're standing on the side that was looking for 'moral clarity' in regards to torture, that disregarded federal and international law to enact that policy. The same side that ignored and/or weakened Constitutional protections.
Intelligent debate? No, sir, you have no such claim to intellectual merit.
They don't believe in intelligent debate, just intelligent design.
when you are old and infirm and tell me about intelligent design.
you know what? We have indulged you and others for the past few weeks coming over here from 9-12 or wherever to defend Glenn Beck's honor,like he has any. If you can't see that this guy is a complete and total idiot who throws around words like Fascism and Fascist to describe anything that he doesn't like, always on the left, completely oblivious to the fact that just about any textbook definition of Fascism fits the right like a glove.
I heard him urging his listeners on the radio the other day to never refer to America as a Democracy because it is not a Democracy, but a Republic. Funny, we've been hearing that argument a lot here at C & L lately. Democracy was a term that started being used in the 20th century by elite Liberals who wanted a socialist society with mob rule, was what I believe he said. His supporters seem to be really eating it up too. Never mind Alexis de Tocqueville's 1830's book entitled "On Democracy in America". Never mind the fact that Republic and Democracy aren't mutually exclusive to each other. Just because in Glenn Beck's mind he thinks something is true doesn't make it so.
The whole Tea Bagging and 9-12 bullshit is exactly that, bullshit. Sour grapes by bunch of babies that didn't get their way. A majority of Americans, regardless of whether you think they are "real Americans" or not, voted for this president got what they wanted. My suggestion to all of you would be to, instead of stomping around crying cause you lost, would be to grow the fuck up and do some serious thinking about why the majority of this country thinks that your ideas are shit. Perhaps read this and do a little reflection.
Although Republicanism proper can be identified with fascism, oligarchism, monarchism, it can also be a form of indirect democracy, voting by proxy rather than directly like in Town Meetings.
So we need to ask people who insist we are a republic, just which form we should have?
They're fond of saying Hitler was a Socialist because it appears in National Sozialistische Deutsch Arbeiter, but they ignore the fact that Communist China was called the Republic of China, and the USSR stood for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
Are republicans Communists?
That certainly doesn't jibe with my experience on right-wing sites.
Of course, mostly they banned me as soon as they figured out I was a liberal.
Hey Puddinhead, sounds like your taking the Beck option, and starting to let the tears flow. Your in our house, boy, so you can't handle the heat maybe it's time to leave the proverbial kitchen.
I've been summarily banned from every reich-wing site I ever dared to inject with reason, cogency, rationality and intelligent discourse.
If I dared challenge their extreme-right mind-set and world view, bam! Deleted.
Remember, "rightmind," facts have a liberal bias.
is a terrible thing to behold.
Not nearly as effective as kissing a Saudi full on the lips, or walking hand in hand through the garden!
Or massaging a head of state.
Or puking on a PM's lap. (GHWB)
Or honoring the fallen SS men who slaughtered your country's captured, unarmed soldiers.(Raygun)
Remember: ketchup is a vegetable and pollution is mainly caused by trees.
"In case of a nuclear attack, all you need to do is take a shovel, dig a hole and get into it to protect yourself." (Source: Robert Scheer's book, "With Enough Shovels".
A US President actually show some respect to a foreign leader...something bushit had no fucking clue about.
If that's all you got, ya might well give up now.
Why on Earth we would show any "respect" to a Saudi King whose country stones/executes/lashes women for being alone with another man other than her husband?? Even 78 year old women!!!
A country where there are basically NO human rights for women. Period.
Oh, and whose country provided 15 of the 19 "hijackers" on 9/11.
And, one of my personal favorites. A country that promotes madrasas to force little boys to memorize the Koran 12 hours a day.
but protocol and all that.
... you can't influence people or work to change those beliefs/policies without being on an even keel, moderated by the appearance of civility and respect.
Slam-the-door diplomacy was the methodology of the Bush Administration, and it didn't bring anything of use to the table. Fantasies of democracy busting out all over were dashed because people in the Middle East realized our policy-makers and leaders couldn't even be arsed to understand the basic difference between Sunni and Shiite.
The option, of course, is to abstain from visiting that region, and make the Saudis come here. Which won't really change the equation as far as showing respect goes, but it will be on our home turf and not theirs.
Saudi King: Bush held hands, Barack bowed.
German Chancellor: Bush gives shoulder rub, Barack shakes hand.
Japanese Leader: Bush 1/2 throws up in lap, Barack bowed.
Protocol is hard to follow.
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Are they off to a good start?
My favorite player growing up was the incomparable Roberto Clemente.
... showing deference, then we can only assume that Bush accepted an appointment as the Saudi Court Jester. He dances and capers about, and the Saudis laugh.
Job well done.
ummmmm actually he leaned forward to shake the Kings hand. But while you're on the subject of the Saudi King what was up with GW Bush kissing him on the lips???
I have moderated discussion lists since the early 1990s and all threads reach their conclusion when one of the parties aligns the other with either the Nazis or Fascists. Beck's thread is done and done.
aww. we just got started
And lo they will be led by a self-proclaimed rodeo clown.
-GSD
George W. Bush took the USA towards Fascism, Obama is correcting that. Anyone who does not understand that should READ "the 14 points of fascism" put that into Google and read it. Bush and the Neocons took the opportunity September 11 provided and ran with it. Chief amongst the things they did - they used torture on prisoners, they created an amorphous "War on Terror" that was a fear tactic and an excuse for rampant militarism and invading and occupying Iraq, they obsessed over national security to a degree never before seen and protected corporations. The republicans did that taking us way down the road towards fascism. Obama is reversing that. Do not listen to the rantings of Beck and the other Fox News broadcasts, they are intentionally deceptive. At the gym this morning I could not help looking at the TV showing Fox News, for at least a half hour they were hyping the so called "Tea Parties" the anti-roll back tax cuts for the rich and corporations movement that only really exists as a huge upswell of popular opinion on Fox News. Very scary.
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
beck is the US version of this guy.
http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/8bx...
Republicans - today's modern day fascists...
Take a look at what Vice President Henry Wallace said about fascism...one could call him very, very prescient...
It reads like the step-by-step playbook of the modern con-servative/Republican...
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0719-15.htm
My favorite parts exposing con-servative hypocrisy in bold:
"The really dangerous American fascists," Wallace wrote, "are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those. The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power."
In this, Wallace was using the classic definition of the word "fascist" - the definition Mussolini had in mind when he claimed to have invented the word. (It was actually Italian philosopher Giovanni Gentile who wrote the entry in the Encyclopedia Italiana that said: "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." Mussolini, however, affixed his name to the entry, and claimed credit for it.)
As the 1983 American Heritage Dictionary noted, fascism is: "A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."
Continued:
In 1938, Mussolini brought his vision of fascism into full reality when he dissolved Parliament and replaced it with the "Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni" - the Chamber of the Fascist Corporations. Corporations were still privately owned, but now instead of having to sneak their money to folks like Tom DeLay and covertly write legislation, they were openly in charge of the government.
" If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States. There are probably several hundred thousand if we narrow the definition to include only those who in their search for money and power are ruthless and deceitful. ... They are patriotic in time of war because it is to their interest to be so, but in time of peace they follow power and the dollar wherever they may lead."
And Finally:
But even at this, Wallace noted, American fascists would have to lie to the people in order to gain power. And, because they were in bed with the nation's largest corporations - who could gain control of newspapers and broadcast media - they could promote their lies with ease.
"The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact," Wallace wrote. "Their newspapers and propaganda carefully cultivate every fissure of disunity, every crack in the common front against fascism. They use every opportunity to impugn democracy."
"They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection."
"The myth of fascist efficiency has deluded many people. ... Democracy, to crush fascism internally, must...develop the ability to keep people fully employed and at the same time balance the budget. It must put human beings first and dollars second. It must appeal to reason and decency and not to violence and deceit. We must not tolerate oppressive government or industrial oligarchy in the form of monopolies and cartels."
In 2004, we again stand at the same crossroad Roosevelt and Wallace confronted during the Great Depression and World War II. Fascism is again rising in America, this time calling itself "compassionate conservatism." The RNC's behavior today eerily parallels the day in 1936 when Roosevelt said, "In vain they seek to hide behind the flag and the Constitution. In their blindness they forget what the flag and the Constitution stand for."
It's particularly ironic that the CEOs and lobbyists who run the Republican National Committee would have chosen to put Hitler's fascist face into one of their campaign commercials, just before they launched a national campaign against gays and while they continue to arrest people who wear anti-Bush T-shirts in public places.
No thanks are necessary con-servatives...just keeping it real for you, and reminding you how insanely stupid you are for financing (buying into the con-servative 'philosophy' & their 'merchandise') your own lobotomies...
Btw: that awesome information is also available in Thom's book "Screwed: The Undeclared War Against the Middle Class -- And What We Can Do About It"
Just finished reading it, and its yet another 'clinic' for beating down con-servative nonsense...highly recommended!
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dump Wallace for a blue dog Demoicrat?
Who seem to behave with the same mind-set as the Republicans are accused of in your post above:
The RNC's behavior today eerily parallels the day in 1936 when Roosevelt said, "In vain they seek to hide behind the flag and the Constitution. In their blindness they forget what the flag and the Constitution stand for."
Seriously. Let's cut out all the bullshit.
I don't see President Obama or Rep. Pelosi, or Sen. Reid or any other leading Democrats (except perhaps Sen. Leahy and Rep. Grayson etc.) calling for a repeal of The Patriot Act, or the repeal of The Military Commissions Act, or the repeal of the FISA legislation, or the creation of a Truth Commission to Investigate Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz etc. for War Crimes etc. etc.
A fascist is a fascist. "You will know them by their DEEDS."
I was thinking something similar.
If the threat of fascism was only posed by the Bush administration, we wouldn't be talking about it today.
You might see Leahy call for repeal of those but don't hold your breath waiting for him to actually DO anything about repealing them.
... will only happen when it becomes politically beneficial for them to do so.
A fearful, ill-educated populace is more easily controlled than a rational, intelligent one.
I don't think that was what Beck had in mind as the raison d'etre for his comments regarding the equation of liberals and fascism....
I recently wished to get some juicy quotes on Hitler's opinion of Liberals (like Stalin, Mao and the rest, he hated them), so I googled "Hitler liberals". I found nothing historical, just page after page of modern right-wing Hitler-was-a-liberal rants. It used to be an insult to accuse someong of being "to the right of Hitler." Now it's a compliment.
A Sunday posting over at DK reminds us that Tim McVeigh went on his killing rampage 14 years ago next Sunday. Consider who McVeigh adminred...the likes of Turner Diaries.
Glen Beck is the Turner Diarist of the 21st C.
Yay David!
I've been saying for weeks that C&L ought to be above giving this idiot air and the attention he so clearly craves.
At least Ann Coulter paces herself. At the current rate, I wouldn't be surprised if this clown shoots himself out of a canon next week.
But you know what? I knew that irony was officially redundant when I read that Glenn Beck was announcing, I shit you not, a comedy tour! LINK
I agree with your shift in covering Beck. Yes, he is dangerous but polluting this site with him daily was too much for this reader. It seems there have been days when it is right-wing bs from the top to the bottom of the program. Ugh. Personally, I prefer a balance of watching the crazies and supporting the progressive agenda... so bump Beck and make room for more progressive stories to come to light. Thank you.
was that a deliberate play on Onanism? Well done sir! Well done.
Jonah NOT John.
... the Biblical reference is a fellow named Onan.
in that picture about the Barbary pirates back efore his pecs collapsed and he had to find less honorable work?
I see your point but, be honest, if Glenn Beck were to eat peyote and go on a spirit walk, while on air, tell me you wouldn't watch.
Personally, I'd pay money to see that.
Beck's the right-wing crazy's newest shiny object that has caught their attention.
I agree with the above posters who stated that Beck is only in it for the ratings and the money.
I honestly believe the republicans thought they were going to win the last election (perhaps they figured Diebold would bail them out again) and right now they are in panic mode.
Beck is just feeding the beast.
When the repubs get serious about re-creating themselves and find a vision, I think we'll see Beck get tossed under the bus real quick, unless he's smart enough to see it coming, can "find Jesus" and re-invent himself as a tele-evangelist.
It's because of the Wing-NutO's proven insanity that the GOP, bedwetting, crying idiots, will continue to lose everything.
http://www.lemarssentinel.com/blogs/1295/entr...
I'm just still somewhat suprised that his producers haven't been arrested for using a menatlly deranged person in this manner. Same goes for the US Congress in not seeing that Rep. Bachmann gets the mental health care she so despertly needs.
To back off of the coverage of Glennis.
It's just free publicity. True, we need to keep an eye on him and his antics. But the more exposure he gets, the better it is for him.
What does need to happen is for the few remaining real journalists to call him out on his bs. Expose him for the fraud he is. Or, for being mentally unhinged. The guy is not right in the head. And to think, He's making millions off of his lunacy.
Yeah, last we need are insects with a nervous tick.
How do ticks react to dining on coffee drinkers?
Was that ever creeping facism or what? Or maybe Jeffersonian democracy. French?
It makes as much sense as "reasonable conservatism"... i.e. none.
Seriously, I for one would like all these conservatives going off the deep end with their projection exercises regarding fascism, to just shut the f*ck up. Or at least refrain from use 'fascism' until they learn the actual meaning of the term.
I agree with the new approach. It solves nothing, we know all about Beck and who he is.
Hannity would be a much better target :)
Now that is a nut case who has stepped off the pier and hit the water, far worse than Glenn Beck. I Wonder why he doesn't like his real name Weiner? Maybe it's too close to Weener.
than Dreck, albeit to a smaller audience.
As Jon Stewart said, being in the minority is supposed to taste like a shit taco. But Beck wants to use that taco to begin a whole new food group.
NO ONE pulled this shit on W during his administration's first months in office.
no one.
I really think the Beck brigade is controlled by the Rove-ers and it's their game is to whip up some frothing crazies to the point where they really get into trouble.
But first, I hope beyond hope that Beck implodes in some kind of Scanners head explosion moment...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52pXvOFy1A4
That's the one!!
The face of fascism. A carnival barker with no education, or acquired knowledge.
glenn beck's comedy tour will be with:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-KtVrt85pg&fe...
that clip was part of his comedy tour.
Glen is a dick, I understand you want to give up, but you know tommorrow he'll be a even bigger dick than today. lol
Especially if you spelled it Glans.
Time has shown us, again and again, the world over. Those stories long ago thought to be right and true, were merely the scripts of a great storyteller. The theories of the theologian though held in high regard, was just that... theories. Like the economist who theorizes the future economy based on his/hers past experience and knowledge, will only be as accurate as his/hers inclusion or exclusion of facts known at that point in time.
In a docile environment the theologian can furnish great comfort too the masses, though at the same time inadvertently cause great harm. As time goes on, stories will continue to be told accordingly, based mainly on theory, at least until they are confirmed by facts. I can only suggest, that you not put all your eggs in one basket.
PS. And beware of the childish reactions of the poor sports, aka losers.
the912project.com
the912project.com is for morons.
FIFY....
has no transfer protocol, it seems...All the better for us.
What a shame...
... did you really sit there cowering in your bunker (it's still mom's basement, even with the crayon-scrawled sign on the door) for eight years until Glenn Beck launched his little project?
I mean, seriously. Your sorry lot has been clutching their panties over Islamic bad guys coming here to take the place over, even though that would mean taking on a nation bordered by two oceans and fighting for every city, town, parish, and street ... then hopping on a boat to take Alaska and Hawaii.
I've listened to your ilk whine for eight solid years, and now that that frat punk pretending to be a cowboy is gone, you're STILL whining. Terrorism, socialism, communism, fascism, liberalism ... do you have any inkling how ridiculous you people sound?
... but more than that, as Mike Malloy insists, he needs to be removed from the air. He's no longer about free speech or respectful disagreement or loyal opposition; he's crossed the line into sedition, insurrection and outright treason.
and finally it seems that folks are noticing.
Thank you. I think this is the right tact with this guy.
Really, "i'll" informed? Lol!
It is time to go after his sponsors. UPS dropped O'Reily. I don't think Wall Street really believes armed insurrection and riots in the streets will be good for business.
I will be more than happy to call, write, and demand they release their corporate rationale for sponsoring sedition.
As for Beck, since I saw the clip of him boo-hooing about his trip to the hospital, I'm convinced the man needs to be living on SSI benefits. He be Kee-razy.
http://the1031project.com/
i've been meaning to check that out - finally did today...
you will get a link that opens email - i'm waiting to see what happens next!
...Stay on Target!!!
what's a "constructionalist"?
and i'm confused....i thought they LIKED the whole take-action-then-ask-if-it's-legal method.
I feel ike breaking out the popcorn when i see radical right wingers like Beck veering off to the tinfoil hat wearing fringe of the radical right-All this will do is whittle their base down to a very small extremest fringe- To Beck, Limbaugh and Savage, I say PLEASE, get even more venemous and paranoid- You are doing a better job discrediting youirselves than we ever could...I hope Sara Palin and Joe the Plummer are their picks forthe 2012 election
to force the mic away from freaks like Beck or to let them rant on to their total destruction.
Good blogs wrestle with this issue, but since I cannot listen to such crooks and liars as Beck I depend on blogs to keep me informed no matter how infuriating the reports.
Beck is just the latest looney who knows he can make lots of money by spouting fear and right wing talking points on Fox. He's a joke, people - just another academic drop out like Hannity. Don't take these guys any more seriously than you would a clown at the circus.
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