Note to Sarah Palin: Here are some other domestic terrorists
Ari observes that Sarah Palin refused to acknowledge the existence of right-wing domestic terrorists in her NBC interview that aired last night:
Brian Williams: Back to the notion of terrorists and terrorism, this word has come up in relation to Mr. Ayers -- hanging out with terrorist – domestic terrorists. It is said that it gives it a vaguely post uh 9-11 hint, using that word, that we don’t normally associate with domestic crimes. Are we changing the definition? Are the people who set fire to American cities during the ‘60’s terrorists, under this definition? Is an abortion clinic bomber a terrorist under the definition?
Sarah Palin: There is no question that Bill Ayers via his own admittance was um one who sought to destroy our US Capitol and our Pentagon -- that is a domestic terrorist. There’s no question there. Now others who would want to engage in harming innocent Americans or um facilities, that uh, it would be unacceptable -- I don’t know if you could use the word terrorist, but its unacceptable and it would not be condoned of course on our watch. I don’t know if what you are asking is if I regret referring to Bill Ayers as an unrepentant domestic terrorist. I don’t regret characterizing him as that.
Williams: I’m just asking what other categories you would put in there. Abortion clinic bombers? Protesters in cities where fires were started, Molotov cocktails, were thrown? People died.
Palin: I would put in that category of Bill Ayers anyone else who would seek to destroy our United States Capitol and our Pentagon and would seek to destroy innocent Americans.
Well, just in case Mrs. Palin forgot, there was a running spate of domestic terrorism in the United States in the 1990s created by the far-right "Patriot" movement, much of it revolving around abortion and hatred of the federal government.
The signature event, of course, was the bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City in 1995. But that was hardly the end of it. Indeed, by the end of 1999, we were able to document over 40 such cases -- many of which were nipped in the bud before they reached fruition. Some were not.
It seems Palin needs a refresher course. The Jed Report video above mentions two abortion-clinic shooters, Paul Hill and Michael Griffin, who were among the murderous terrorists who inspired the federal law that protects abortion providers -- a law John McCain twice voted against.
But that was hardly all. Below, a rundown of other significant domestic terrorists:
Eric Robert Rudolph (born September 19, 1966), also known as the Olympic Park Bomber, is an American radical described by the FBI as a terrorist who committed a series of bombings across the southern United States which killed two people and injured at least 150 others.
Rudolph declared that his bombings were part of a guerrilla campaign against abortion and what he describes as "the homosexual agenda." He spent years as the FBI's most wanted criminal fugitive, but was eventually caught. In 2005 Rudolph pleaded guilty to numerous federal and state homicide charges and accepted five consecutive life sentences in exchange for avoiding a trial and the death penalty. Rudolph was connected with the white supremacist Christian Identity movement. Although he has denied that his crimes were religiously or racially motivated, Rudolph has also called himself a Roman Catholic in "the war to end this holocaust" (of abortion).
James Charles Kopp (born August 2, 1954) is an American citizen who was convicted in 2003 for the 1998 sniper-style murder of Dr. Barnett Slepian, an Amherst, New York physician who performed abortions. Prior to his capture, Kopp was on the FBI's list of Ten Most Wanted Fugitives. On June 7, 1999 he had become the 455th fugitive placed on the list by the FBI. He was affiliated with anti-abortion group "The Lambs of Christ." He has been referred to as a terrorist by the National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism.
Letters left at the scene of an April 1996 bank robbery/clinic bombing in Spokane, Washington, contained Identity propaganda, diatribes against the banking system and were signed with the symbol of the "Phineas Priesthood." [At the time of the robbery, a bomb was set off at a nearby Planned Parenthood clinic as a diversion, with death threats toward abortion providers contained in the note left with that bomb.] The three men arrested, Charles Barbee, Robert Berry and Jay Merrell, were linked to white supremacist and "Identity" groups and were also charged with setting off bombs at a newspaper office and a Planned Parenthood clinic. All three were convicted.
[More here.]
Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was a United States Army veteran and security guard who bombed the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on the second anniversary of the Waco Siege, as revenge against what he considered to be a tyrannical federal government. The bombing killed 168 people, and was the deadliest act of terrorism within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks.
Buford O'Neal Furrow, Jr. (born November 25, 1961) perpetrated the August 1999 Los Angeles Jewish Community Center shooting on August 10, 1999, when he attacked a day care center at the North Valley Jewish Community Center. The shooting injured three children, and a receptionist. He also shot dead US Postal Service carrier Joseph Ileto who was Filipino American. Furrow was a member of the white-supremacist group Aryan Nations in 1995.
On January 24, 2001 Furrow pleaded guilty all of the counts against him. In exchange for pleading guilty, Furrow avoided a possible death sentence, but was instead sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. According to the indictment, Furrow expressed no regrets for any of his crimes.
This is just a sampling. There were many more such cases in which clinics were bombed, government officials and offices threatened or attacked.
These activities slowed considerably in the past eight years, but continue to bubble along. There was, for instance, the case of Demetrius "Van" Crocker, who was caught trying to buy explosives he planned to bomb Congress with. Or William Krar, who put together a cyanide bomb he planned to set off in a public venue. Or Chad Castagana, the self-described Coulter/Malkin worshipper who sent various liberal figures fake anthrax threats. There have been many others.
And they haven't gone away. As recently as last year, bombs were being left at an abortion clinic in Houston, and Alabama militiamen were being arrested for plotting to commit a massacre of Latino immigrants.
But we understand why Sarah Palin may not want to acknowledge the existence of this kind of domestic terrorist.
After all, every one of them proceeded out of the ranks of the far-right "Patriot" movement. The very movement whose members she "palled around with" in Wasilla -- and indeed empowered them at every turn.
Obviously it depends on which Americans you are bombing, right Sarah?
It's the difference between real-americans and anti-americans.
Exactly. Bomb an abortion clinic or murder gays, and the death penalty is immediately off the table. The US fights tooth and nail to extradite people back to the US, yet when James Kopp was on the run, Ashcroft revoke the death penalty as soon as Kopp's lawyers asked. That's especially revolting since all the perpetrators of such crimes have been white, yet John Allen Muhammad's crimes were only worse than James Kopp's in number of victims, while both murdered people in the same manner, sniper fire.
If anyone can name more than one extreme right wing christian terrorist who got the death penalty (McVeigh being the only one), I'd like to know who.
Wow! I would love to see that on TV, edited to include a list of the other terrorists.
Palin probably things their god's warriors rather than terrorists.
dear, let me be the first say -
turn out the lights and be sure to lock the door on your way out, sweetheart. You're in so freaking deep right now, you have no way out.
Thanks for playing, you betcha!
Before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment - chop wood, carry water.
Bitter Bud Hussein,
I dunno. I think this was a nod to her crazy fundie base. She sighed at the question to express annoyance, and refused to say that abortion clinic bombers were terrorists. That's what they likely wanted to hear.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
as in "sh*t" - she just keeps making herself look more and more foolish.
I give her absolutely no credit to be that smart/clever to give a nod to the base. She's too stupid, even for that. The First Dude has been pulling her strings in Alaska this whole time.
Before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment - chop wood, carry water.
..then that would make Miss Sarah a domestic terrorist; at least an aider and abettor (wink, wink),....doncha' know
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
I will bet you big money that three months ago, Palin would have drawn a blank if you had asked her, who is Bill Ayres. I admit, I would have.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
What do you mean!? Three months ago she would have drawn a blank if you asked her "who is John McCain?" Sheesh...
LOL
She still draws a blank if you ask her what a Vice President is.
I chatted with a street corner lunatic singing the praises of McCain- he asserted that obama 'hangs out with terrroists'. I asked him to elaborate- he couldn't! He couldn't remember that Ayers's first name was Bill, and had no idea who or what Ayers is- othher than being 'a terrorist'.
These right wing vermin are true sheep..
Why didn't Williams ask about the Murrah building? she keeps saying the Capitol and Pentagon, are those the only buildings that count?
No, but those are the only ones she is programmed to use to support her narrative. If she brought up the Murrah Building, it would alienate the anti-government crowd, from which she draws a good deal of support. She's counting on them in 2012.
GOP Rule #1 - Never let the facts get in the way.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
This woman is so ignorant that it's becoming very sad to watch as she continues to show people precisely how dumb she actually is. She still hasn't the first clue about the "job description" she's running for and now this...WTF is going on with this woman? Today she railed against spending money on fruit fly research - does she not know that it's precisely the fruit fly research which has proven successful in understanding autism?? Just when you think she can't smear herself with feces any more or make more of a jumping jackass out of herself, she outdoes herself!
America is very sick of seeing this woman in our faces - this woman who spends more in one month than the majority of americans pay for a home. This is a disgusting perversion of reality.
If Palin thinks she'll be coming back in 2012, she's sadly mistaken. By then, her expense account antics and her ethical misbehavior will result in either censure or impeachment and she will not be reelected up there again.
I'd say Palin's political capital has been totally spent.
She just thinks it would be a lot more efficient if they'd shitcan the fruitfly research and use non-Aryan babies instead.
I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.....
Was that a Freudian slip? My favorite line from Oliver Stone's NIXON is when Nixon looks up at the portrait of Kennedy and says "When they look at you they see themselves the way they want to be. When they look at me, they see themselves the way they are." Which is not only true, but probably the main reason why the public hated Nixon so much. He reminded them of both the best and the worst in America.
We all look at Sarah Palin and see an emotionally immature, morally smug, belligerent, ignorant, hypocrite, who is overcompensating for some deep-rooted inferiority complex. Sadly, that's the way a lot of the world sees the whole country, and it's not a part of our culture that we can be proud of. The difference between the GOP base and the rest of the world is that the GOP base, through identity politics, sees her as a ROLE MODEL.
Honestly, I was surprised she didn't deflect that question on to "There are all sorts of terrorists, but the worst ones are supported by Iran, and gosh-doodilee-doo, don't-cha know that Iran...blah blah...stinking corpse...blah blah...off the face of the earth...blah blah...team of mavericks..."
Ned Flanders in drag.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
No, more like that evil Ned Flanders ZOMBIE from the Simpson's Halloween special. The one that used to go around dropping those Gs while eating people's brains.
And in another word, this woman is downright dangerous to this country. Her intimate connection with secessionist in Alaska and her hubby's (First Dud) membership in this organization means that neither of them could ever get security clearance to even be near the White House in the first place.
Someone blew up a prison killing all the convicts, that wouldn't then be terrorism? Assuming of course all the staff got away safely.
What *doesn't* Sarah Palin need a refresher course in?
I'm sure Aldous Huxley or George Orwell could give us a better definition of terrorist...
I think McCain used to pal around with Sam Lowry...
-kuda
I would say that was a pretty major gaffe saying she wouldn't classify abortion clinic bombers as terrorists. I guess she knows that's her base.
came out in the VP debate weeks ago: someone who will not let others judge her except by her own standards; someone who will not jump though any hoops than ones of her own making; someone who will not accept any reality but her own. Such a person would have no problem accepting 150k in image makeover, it's what her world expects. I would hate and fear to be part of her world.
She's kind of like the Queen of Hearts in Alice in Wonderland. If she were president, she'd think: so many heads, so little time...
I'm beginning to believe we really DO have a pro-terrorist, anti-America candidate in the race after all. Her name is Sarah Palin.
It's not terrorism when you murderin' fer jeesus.
I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.....
Let's face it, Sarah is just a mess.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
The fact that she never answers a question is very disturbing.
We can answer those questions for her.
ALL of those people mentioned above were terrorist.
People, make sure all your family gets out and VOTES. We need to not only Win this Election, we need to WIN with a Big majority. Face it, the R's are scared, they will do anything they can to keep the power that they have so badly mishandled. They are not done wrecking America and trying to turn it into a Theocracy.
GET OUT THE VOTE !!!
Aye, Aye, captain. Did that votin' thingie yesterday and did it with pride.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
POP said thingie.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
...and who was this "pride" fellow she did it with??
Notice, in her definition of terrorist she kept going on about someone who attacks the capitol or the pentagon are terrorists. Ayers and Bin Laden are then terrorists by that definition (regardless of success in such goals in the case of Ayers) Abortion clinic bombers, since they are not attacking the capitol or pentagon are not terrorists.
So where does that leave the World Trade Center? It is not part of the government, not the capitol or pentagon.. it is just part of that leeebrul New York. So does attacking the WTC or New Yorkers count as terrorism? Or do they make an exception as it would be connected to big corporations.
in PalinWorld(tm)
Before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment - chop wood, carry water.
The one thing I don't get is that New York and Washington aren't 'real' America. Unless they get attacked by terrorists. In which case they get a temporary waver until the next election cycle begins...
how does palin order anything from
the clown at mcdonald's? she fucking
can't form a complete or intelligent
sentence. what a bitch miscreant.
and this is the person the reich
wants as vp of America or should
we say Amerika?
All the American terrorists are right wingers. Add to the list pathological homophobe Fred Phelps and murdered-in-prison abortion clinic bomber John Salvi.
But if anti-government revolutionaries are "terrorists" as Palin says, what does that make the participants in the Boston Tea Party, or the patriots who burned the Gaspee? Palin doesn't even know current events, so who could expect her to know history. She doesn't seem to know even the simple meaning of words.
McCain is going to be on Meet the Press, Sunday morning. I guess Tom is going to give him one last chance to try to turn his sinking ship around. Too bad Sarah isn't going to be on too. By now she should be ready.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Too little, too late.
If Palin thinks she's gonna get some free ride in 2012, she is sadly mistaken.
This twit has been in an insulated coccoon the whole campaign.
She'll NEVER make it out of a GOP primary.
I may not agree with them or like them...but the fact is...both Romney and Huckabee will chew her up alive and spit her out.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
sarah never spits anything out.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
is almost as nutty as she is.
maybe so...but he has played politics in the big leagues for a long time.
He'll slap her around like a cheap GOP whore.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
eom.
One kills moose and the other kills squirrels. One eats moose burgers and the other fries dead squirrels in a popcorn popper. You pick.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Have you noticed how Huckabee is is getting fatter and fatter. He must be going to the Roger Ailes menu.
what about those who terrorize people who chose to live openly gay? Gay men and women have been injured, preyed upon and killed for their life choices.
The majority of the right wing are terrorists in that regard.
Violent racism is also terrorism. Minorities have suffered and continue to at the hands of radicals. America was made great on the backs of blacks and in turn on the tradition of terrorism.
keep her talking. I can see Obama's lead only increasing. Oh, and McAngryPants head explode.
eom.
as is everyone in the aip...who would want to see the secession of alaska by any means neccessary
on a lighter note....watch the two mccains
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVhMrEozE7w
terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, is not that the expression?
Just most of them. And they all vote. Given the latest numbers did you really expect Sarah to throw away 6 votes? That would be madness!
Ps. I'm a Brit so I'm not allowed but would you guys please try and find six people who weren't going to vote to offset the wingnuts? They make me cry on the inside.
I think Obama himself has taken care of the get out the vote message. I'm thinking Florida may have its highest turn out ever or else it will be close to its highest turn out ever. People down here really are fired up and ready to go. In my area, the dems are turning out four to one in early voting.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
"Chad" will get his turn Nov 5th no doubt.
You just saw the problem with putting one side or other into a box. In this case the Dems relating to terrorists. People like McPalin who do not think about the opposite side of the argument always get burned. On this here topic it look like G. Gordon Liddy was left off the list.
if Palin kill Moose and Squirrel...who will protect us from Boris and Natasha?!!?
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Mr. Peabody.
Quiet you!
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Leave Bill O'Reilly out of this.
the time machine from Peabody and Sherman, and set it right.
eom.
That's okay. Date anyone you like. We don't judge people by who they date. ;)
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
that's the "wayback machine" to you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZtW8QwkwVo
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
If Palin kill Moose and Squirrel, Mitt Romney will protect us from Boris and Natasha.
the english language?
"by his own admittance..."
shouldnt that be admition?
That's the ticket! :)
Admission perhaps?
Admission Impossible maybe?
I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.....
Admission accomplished or not?
"I ain't goin to pay no two dollar admittance!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMocEINn-E8
Maybe she also attended 6 grammar schools in 5 years.
Yes I caught that last night when it aired. It sounded fucked up to me but I thought that maybe it was some obscure usage or that some can be it if ever it was. So as to it could not if it ever was.
But hey, its not like she conversationalized a true Bushism.
Where was he admitted anyway? (Eyes looking up)
Admission.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Don't forget Lee Harvey Oswald in this group. I wonder how many on this list have military backgrounds or intelligence ties etc. Don't forget the D.C. Snipers and the Anthrax Killers and the school shooters. Sarah Palin does need an education on a lot of this stuff that's for sure, but a lot of us could use more information and discussion as well.
is only going to make her a better terrorist.
Everything suggests that Lee Harvey Oswald was not involved except as he said - as a patsy.
Harvey was likely a sheep-dipped mole/asset. He was involved in outing the Cuban freedom fighters after Kennedy wanted that operation wound down following the Bay of Pigs.
However,
E Howard Hunt in on tape/video confessing to the plot to kill Kennedy with several others.
videos on YouTube from here:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/landmark-e-howard...
Artist formerly...
the time machine from Peabody and Sherman, and set it right
That's the Wayback Machine...get it RIGHT!! LOL! ; 0 )
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
:D. Too much coffee today for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwivHPit22A
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
and it's Professor Peabody and his pet boy Sherman!
Was Malcolm X a terrorist? I think he was a man who saw people oppressed, and felt people shouldn't have to ask for their freedom, they should take it. Time and time again, every right winger I meet has **NOTHING*** positive to say about Malcolm X. Why is this?
I think X was, like king, a freedom fighter- and *not* a terrorist.
I could be wrong, but as far as i recall Malcolm X did not commit any acts of violence. He condoned violence until his return from Africa where he changed his mind after seeing black people and white people living together in harmony and the color of his skin did not matter. He said he thought it was impossible before that.
In any case i do not recall him committing any acts of political violence.
it was when he made his Hajj to Mecca that he changed his stance on violence and began to embrace non-violent protest. Conversely, Dr King started to become more radicalised. Brother Malcolm never did commit any violent acts.
Most Righties are literally terrified of people like Dr King and Malcolm X. Therefore, using Rightie logic - Terrorists. People who cause terror. To idiots who worry too much about losing what they have now to perhaps have more tomorrow.
Rocky and Bullwinkle and Mystery Science Theater 3000, were some of the best stuff ever on tv, imo.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Too bad we can't force Palin to watch bad movies for eternity..
You have to wonder what the guys at MST 3000 would have done with Palin. Watching her these last few weeks has been exactly like watching a bad movie.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
At least the severed head in the film could make it's own gravy...The McCain campaign makes only lies and distortions
Hey Patricia how about a rundown about what is happening in Florida from your perspective. In California I am not getting a good picture of what is actually happening there. I hear President Obama is up in the polls then I hear he is even. It seems he should have a good lead there by now. What kind of ads are you seeing from both sides. What are they saying? I don't see many ads at all becasue I get DirecTV. I just can't get a feel of what is happening there from the TV.
Going on what I read in the paper and what I have seen, the young people are pouring out for Obama. Yesterday when we voted just about everyone in front of us were college aged to young family people. I took that as a good sign.
We are flooded with campaign ads. McCain's are usually dark and frightening. I can't remember a single one of his that was just about him and what he would do. Obama on the other hand has a great one running now about the future of children and the responsibility of parents. It's about what we owe children. I don't think there is even mention of Mccain in that ad.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Thanks. That is reassuring.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHEqJbAIHbM
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I particularly liked "Fractured Fairy Tales" on the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6724wPMhsE
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
That, to me, is a terrorist.
In that year, 150 men boarded the ships the Eleanor, the Darmouth and the Beaver, and threw over 100 chests of tea into the harbor, destroying the tea- rather than pay the tea tax- That, plus the beating of British officials in Boston were regarded by king George as acts of domestic terrorism.
hey david, good to see you here at c and l
Here's a definition of "terrorism" anyone can hang their hat on;
when person are targeted or affected by the incident, that is terrorism, it might> not be terrorism if there is only property attacked or threatened but it IS terrorism when people's lives are put at risk or threatened
the attacks on abortion clinics ARE terrorsism, there is NO question about that
How ironic that millions of religious adherents -- those who preach love, unity and peace -- continue to perpetrate murder, mayhem and violence on a grand scale. All over the world, faiths that teach (in one form or another) "love thy neighbor as thyself'' hate their neighbor and can kill their neighbors. This is the dark, violent underbelly of the evangelicals and conservative Christians in America.
They demonize different types of people just because they are "different".They promote propaganda-filled lies to incite hate and racism.
-I just don`t get the hate……….
NO ONE should tolerate the cries of hatred!
Fri, 10/24/2008 - 13:13 — LWing
How ironic that millions of religious adherents -- those who preach love, unity and peace -- continue to perpetrate murder, mayhem and violence on a grand scale.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWdh7ERLb3E
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Ty for the link -*hug
Okay--in order to be a terrorist, you have to intend to bomb both those two buildings and kill people.
By her logic, if you blew up the White House, you wouldn't be a terrorist as long as you don't bomb the pentagon then the capitol?
Does her definition even fit the 9/11 hijackers?
If E Howard Hunt gave a deathbed confession to his role in the assassination of JFK, would the press report on it?
His confession via YouTube found at:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/landmark-e-howard...
John Salvi was not part of the Patriot movement. He did, however, terrorize. December 30, 1994.
...doesn't want to say they are terrorists because she doesn't believe they are. She likely believes that they are soldiers for Christ. She, in this one non-answer to a relatively straight forward question, has sided with those that would harm those that are choosing for themselves... Sad day that this was the first woman to actually have a chance of becoming vice president of our Democratic Republic...
Make no motto of love that worships war
Palin mentioned "innocent Americans" twice. I think this is a dogwhistle to her followers. To her and her followers, the terrorists are not the anti-abortionist bombers. They're the abortion providers who are killing "innocent American" unborn. Therefore the anti-abortionists are the heroes, regardless of their methods, who are saving the innocents.
Of course bombing abortion clinics and killing doctors that perform abortions is terrorism. It's about scaring people away from using such facilities and scaring doctors from performing abortions.
Can't McPalin see beyond the killing to what is really driving those right-wing terrorists?
This post is insightful, and I appreciate it. It also brings up a point that has been bothering me for a while: Why must the two of them (McCain and Palin) always do interviews together? I, like most people, know the answer after seeing Palin's disastrous interviews while flying solo, but I think this question should be raised more often. For one, it's clear that she's on a tight leash because her gaffe count seems to rise exponentially when she's on her own and secondly, it shows how her limited knowledge and experience requires her to have someone nearby to bail her out when she's unable to find a decent response to a question. When she turns to McCain for approval while speaking in an interview, it reminds me of a gradeschooler looking to his parents while delivering unsure lines in a school play.
Domestic right wing terrorism is just as dangerous as anything the foreign or liberal terrorists can provide. And there are a lot of groups that have no qualms about destroying property and lives. I imagine there are a few of those groups in the great state of Alaska and it's amazing to me that she's so flip about it. Anybody with any knowledge on the subject would be a strong advocate of funds to investigate all types of terrorism. It's that dangerous.
Jeanne
she's a fuckin' idiot.... This isn't some nuance issue that takes a considerable effort to reconcile the tension between all the competing moral and ethical values..... This is a slam-duck issue.... and if she has to think more than a mille-second.... she disqualifies herself for any public office and probably from even parenthood
Wow. Makes you kind of sick, doesn't it? Both Palin and McCain are really pieces of filth. They are degenerate lowlifes. Slime. Abortion clinic bombers are NOT domestic terrorists? Palin was defending them it appears. There is a special place in hell for you my dear, and the corpse too.
What's a bit worrisome is that some are predicting this "young, rising star" in the Republican party might make a run in 2012. Over the next 4 years, Dems need to be compiling stuff like this in the event she does run. With Obama raising so much money, you know repugs will do the same thing next election cycle, giving it all they've got because they hate Obama so much and because looks like they're going to suffer an overwhelming, humiliating defeat Nov. 4.
Arrests Made in Bomb At Texas Clinic
And of course the batshit crazy Army of God wants to paint him as a martyr for trying to murder innocent women and children.
Army Of God's - Prisoners for Christ List
Don't forget him. He's the fucking genius who LAST YEAR tried to bomb a women's clinics (among other things) using bomb making materials that bought from Walmart on a credit card. He got busted because a Walmart clerk figured out what he was doing based on his purchases of .
He's doing 40 years now. Hope ya fucking rot, Paul.
I'm surprised that Neiwert didn't include the Unabomber (Theodore Kaczynski) on the list.
Although Kaczyinski didn't focus on abortion, his whole "liberals and leftists" screed made it quite clear that he's ideologically allied with the other wingnut terrorists.
As a Canadian who continues to peer though the looking glass at this election, I am continually astounded at the lack of scrutiny that the McCain/Palin campaign has attracted not just from the media but also from the voter; or maybe "critical thinking" is far too elite for the average American voter.
Indeed, that Palin's unwillingness to characterized those anti-abortionist assassins/bombers/etc as terrorists has not generated both wide-spread condemnation reflected in the headlines of all major media outlets is compelling evidence of a country in rapid decline.
In Canada it would be political suicide for even the most rabidly right-wing politician not to vigorously condemn such heinous acts as those committed by terrorists.
That Pallin does not have either the intellectual acuity or maybe the moral courage to condemn such acts disqualifies her from holding the office of the vice-presidency.
Her lack of condemnation also is a harbinger as to her deference to the "rule of law" when she becomes VP..... and we all no how well that's worked over the last 8 years.
You people are unbelievable..
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