'She's like Sanjayah': Why won't Sarah Palin go away?
By David Neiwert Tuesday Nov 11, 2008 5:00pm
On MSNBC this afternoon Chris Kofinis delivers the whammy on Sarah Palin and how she actually is a gift who keeps on giving to Democrats:
Kofinis: Sarah Palin is like that crazy relative who comes over and doesn't want to leave. She just seemingly does not want to leave the limelight. You know, maybe a better way to put it, one of my friends said, 'You know, she's like Sanjayah from American Idol. When is the fifteen minutes gonna be up?'
Of course, Republican strategist Ron Christie gives us the answer -- to wit, the wingnut core of the Republican Party sees her as their once and future leader, when Kofinis observes that "voters decided on Tuesday" that Palin wasn't qualified:
Christie: Voters did not decide that on Tuesday. It was a very close election. I mean -- 52 percent, you can't say that he had a mandate. The Republican Party needs to attract more people like Governor Palin, who are outside of the Beltway, who hold firm conservative values.
... I think the United States of America is still a center-right country. It is not a center-left country, despite what Chris Kofinis might think. This is still a very conservative country, a very pro-family country, pro-religion, pro-country -- that's where Sarah Palin. What the Republicans failed to do -- and this is why we lost -- we failed to articulate a message of why we were the party for limited government, small taxes, and keeping government out of our sights, and that's why we lost.
Kofinis: With all due respect, if that's -- I keep hearing this from Republicans. I hope you keep doing this. You keep talking about going back to conservative principles. You keep talking about going back to Reagan. If that's the strategy or philosophy that you think is gonna resurrect the Republican Party, I suggest putting Dr. Kevorkian as the head of the RNC, because it's a suicide mission. It will not succeed. Personally, I love it.
Christie winds up by promising to "smoke you guys in the next election." 'Tis good for a low mordant chortle or two.
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breaking news - they're never getting back into power until they renounce their ways.
Their base is old and dying, and the young people HATE their guts! They younger crowd realize everything that comes out of the GOP is a cynical lie - like their low taxes bullshit scam, and they will insure that their margin of defeat only gets larger in the coming years.
And where did they get this Christie idiot from? Is he one of five African American's in the entire country that supports the GOP? WTF!
They put this Orwellean tool on the tube everyday, so that we will think the republican's have something to offer blacks and other minorities. Man are they fucking stupid.
they need to change so they won't do the same things when they're back in power. They must first change if they want to be back in power. The Republican Party deserves no consideration unless it changes significantly from the radical, fringe party it has become.
So when Bush won with 50.7% of the vote, THAT's a mandate. They couldn't stop screaming "mandate, mandate, mandate!!!! Bush has a mandate! America has spoken!"
Now, Obama has 52.6% (and 4 million more votes), but that's NOT a mandate? Let's remind them.
BTW: "we failed to articulate a message of why we were the party for limited government, small taxes, and keeping government out of our sights, and that's why we lost."
No, you failed to prove it.
a) Limited government: Bush increased spending faster than any president in history. So much for limited government.
b) Small taxes: Only for the wealthiest Americans. Obama promised to lower everyone else's taxes.
c) Keeping government out of our sights: Remember Terry Shiavo?
YOUR PARTY DOESN'T STAND FOR ANYTHING THAT IT SAYS IT DOES. MAYBE THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
Something all those elected Thugs secretly want.
Well said. And another thing... Why do they keep saying that this is a "center-right" country? Isn't the center where ever the center is? That's like saying, "most people are taller than average."
Hypocritical on just about every issue. Tax and spend Dems? The GOP borrowed and spent! Pro-life? Only from 0 to 9 months gestation. Then, baby and mother, you're on your own! Hockey mom veep candidate who talks about the "real America?" Sure, if you mean one who hits Neiman-Marcus and Saks in the "fake American" big cities and picks up more than $150,000 worth of clothes for herself, her hubby and kids -- even their underwear!
Note how Sarah talks about a 2012 "opportunity" for "me, my family, my state and the country." Whom does she put first? ME. It's all about her. Obama talked about his campaign being about "us." The people of this country. No wonder his message resonated. People can see Palin is in politics for herself, not to serve others. She has a lot to learn. Maybe she should try being a community organizer.
Sarah Palin is not Sanjaya. She is Britney Spears, another trainwreck of an attractive woman who is attractive but NOT thoughtful, wise or deep but who has had a taste of the limelight that has her addicted, like that first hit of cocaine. Sarah, you need fame rehab so that when you emerge, you will have the sense to go back to your old life and leave the lower 48 alone.
"It was a very close election. I mean -- 52 percent, you can't say that he had a mandate."
But getting 50.7% of the vote in 2004 is a mandate? Christie must have some of Rove's "the math" working.
Ummmm maybe because we're always talking about her. She keeps being dragged back.
I'm no expert though. It's just a thought... :-)
But Palin is someone I would not want to totally ignore. She's the crazy lady who in the dying days of the election was igniting the crazy base. Yes, stop giving her stuff to respond to, but don't ignore her.
William E Miller, a guy whose name I had to google for, using another guy's name.
(But Stephanie Miller remembers him.)
Not whether you or I can stop feeding her trollness, but can the crazy base? I too would love to see her in obscurity, as McFootnote may already be becoming.
...as memorable as Admiral James Stockdale??
How could the crazy base support her with an unwed, knocked up teenaged daughter?
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Sorry, the only thing you will be smoking is a tailpipe.
if he's a strategist then stupidity must be the tactic!
that Palin is the future. That gives her four more years
to practice her craft and provide more fodder to use against her.
While they think she's just wonderful they seriously underestimate
just how much the rest of us think she's a joke. I'll have a lot
more money and a lot more time in 2012. Her presence anywhere on
a Republican ticket will mobilize my time and money. I seriously
doubt that she'll survive the primaries intact and it will be wicked
fun to observe.
No she's like William Hung.
People used to laugh at Reagan and say that he was an idiot and would never get elected, but a lot of people ended up voting for him. She has four years to remake herself and that's a lot of time to tour the country giving speeches and fine tuning her message. Obama won by only 6 points, and that's running against the party that gave us 8 long years of the worst presidency in our history. This country has come to the brink of a second Great Depression because of Conservative policies, yet Obama only got 52% of the vote. All she has to do is keep her base and persuade 3% of the electorate to switch their vote in 2012.
There's an old Tom Lehrer song about a right-wing Republican (natch) movie star who got elected Senator from California in 1964 named George Murphy. He was a song-and-dance man along the lines of Fred Astaire, and he was president of the Screen Actors Guild just a year ahead of Ronald Reagan. By '64 Reagan was already known for conservative politics (and had stumped hard for Goldwater) but in the song about Murphy, Lehrer had this lyric:
With that last bit delivered in a quizzical tone. Of course, the joke is that not long afterward, Reagan was Governor of California, Murphy only served a single term as Senator, and Reagan's the one everyone remembers.
darrelplant,
And here I thought I was the only one out there who remembered that song. :)
Let's hope Sarah Plain doesn't get a real chance,
To give the public . . . .
A song and da-ance!
I wish he were still doing his schtick. He would have had a lot to say about this election. Is he still alive?
He's about 80 years old now, but from everything I've read, still quite sharp.
I remember reading an interview of him a few years back. I'd quote directly if I had the link handy. For now, I'll paraphrase.
When asked why he stopped writing his satirical songs when he did, he responded to the effect of,
When asked whether he'd want to write some more about the Bush Administration, he responded to the effect of,
;)
gotta post his national brotherhood week tonite
The Vatican Rag for LNMC. I was thinking about posting something about Lehrer when I started reading the thread but I see the subject is well covered. Nice to know there are other Lehrer fans out there.
I know all of Tom Lehrer's song by heart!
"At last we got a senator who can really sing and dance”
...still quite pertinent. "Pollution" and the "MLF Lullaby" come to mind.
By then I expect more of the "over 65" vote, ie. the ignoramus rocking chair redneck conservative, to kick the bucket and be replaced by more 18 to 29 year olds.
Obama should be a shoe-in in 2012 if he accomplishes a few things.
"While a five-point race is normally considered a margin of error race at the state level, nationally a five-point race is an electoral landslide."
--Chuck Todd, "Can McCain Close?" MSNBC.com, Oct. 29, 2008.
Wrong. Your assertion considers the electorate as being like a glacier, slow, unmoving and unchangeable. The fact is that people will vote according to the current conditions of the number one issue: the economy. This is what defeated Bush I and if Obama manages to improve the economy and bring back jobs to America, then in 2012 he will win by a LANDSLIDE. ESPECIALLY if Sarah Palin is the GOP ticket!
She truly is the gift that keeps on giving.
Sorry, Republicans. It's a center-left country.
First, the reason Republican primary voters selected John McCain was that he was seen as the non-Republican ideologue. He was seen as the maverick. He was the one that would distance the party from movement conservatism and neo-conservatism. Rash Limbo complained. Coultergeist complained. And the Dobsonite theocrats complained. Because they knew they were losing influence. Because it was their philosophy that was failing.
It is simply disingenuous to ask whether people defaulted to Obama because of Bush without also asking whether (and how many) Republicans were kept from defaulting to Obama because of McCain's perceived reputation as a non-conservative ideologue and his willingness to cross the aisle and veer center-left.
Second, Sarah Palin's selection re-energized that base, but scared everyone else away. She proved to be the Queen of Know Knothing Knation -- the gutsy, uber-right, Bushevik that the conservative base wanted. As the base was energized, moderate and libertarian (small l) conservatives fled to Obama.
Third, the question in the election was not whether to achieve universal health care, but how to achieve universal health care, and McCain's ultra-market-based approach was evaluated and rejected --- because it would have intensified the problems we have now due to our nation's sustained conservative approach.
Fourth, the baboons who ran the McCain campaign thought hurling the charges of "socialism" would scare people enough to default back to the center-right party. It didn't work. Either people saw through it, and understood that basic good government is not necessarily socialism, or they thought, well, let's give the socialist a try.
Sorry, Republicans. Spin all you want. This is a center-left country now. Obama does not have a mandate to, say, suddenly nationalize all of our industries and form a command economy. What he has is a mandate to do what he said he would --- to be a rational, disciplined progressive.
She is a hoot. Great to have her over there, leading the GOP further into the darkness.
That Ron Christie guy should go work for Palin. He is cut from the same cloth, clueless and unable to see the writing on the wall.
Because, as you know, people on the left are anti-family, anti-country, and don't have any wacky religious beliefs.
Every time this kind of line gets trotted out it needs to get treated like Palin's remarks about the "real America" and slapped down.
Yeah, I especially picked up on that pro-country bullshit, like democrats are a bunch of anti-American commies.
Exactly, this is how the right slanders the left continuously, by implying that they are the 'values' party or something, which we all know is completely false.
I'm pro-family, happily married with 1 kid.
I'm pro-religion (but do they count Hindus?)
I'm pro-country, I vote and pay my taxes and fully support the Constitution, if not the current leaders.
To me this really is a conflict between people who see everything in black and white and are therefore 'fundamentalists' about everything in life, and those that are open-minded, tolerant and willing to acknowledge there are (at least) two sides to every story. It just happens that the right has the majority of the wingnuts right now, but under Soviet Russia and China we can see this same 'undemocratic' mentality that can only tolerate their own dogma.
if that means pumping out kids I can't afford and then ignoring those same kids as they get knocked up as teens. Logic isn't their strong suit. How can people on their second and third marriages, by choice, be pushing "sanctity" of marriage as a key platform issue? What we need is a "responsible adult" party, not an "ignorant redneck" party, Obama versus Palin in stark terms.
And the Blues also receive less back in federal dollars than Red States. Yet the liberal states get criticized as being anti-marriage and it's implied we liberals are not as hard working as Joe Six Packs in the Red States. Can we bury these two myths?
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The Truth About Ron Christie
lol
Cross eyed Christie's are wild.
His eyes turned inward during an orgasm....and stayed that way.
I think it's going to take an even greater effort to get Obama re-elected in 2012. As long as he has a successful first term, he can count on my vote. I am,however, fearful that the Republican party will reinvent themselves and come back strong.
they go to Newt Gingrich and Sean Hannity for ideas!
They're CONVINCED they lost because they were not conservative enough!
I hope they keep tugging towards the right because moderates will go liberal before they go neocon again!
i shit you not
either way, dems win big for years to come
Break up the media conglomerates, and suddenly, Hannity will be irrelevent.
People like Limbaugh, O'Reilly and Hannity NEED a massive power structure to support them. If the media falls back into the hands of the people, TV viewers and radio listeners will begin to hear opinions that more accurately reflect theirs. We'll see where center truly is then.
I understand where you are coming from and though I have no idea what he is doing about Joe Lieberman, I think Obama knows the gravity and urgency that is needed to put the country right. I don't think he will do anything rash and of course he will make mistakes. I do think he will do fine.
This is what seems to pass the wingnuts by: How many of the same mistakes did Obama make in the general election that he made in the primaries. Were the second and third debates with John McCain worse than the first? Did he run a Democratic campaign the same way Hillary did? The answer is no. This is a man that studies and learns from his mistakes. He will learn and grow in the next four years and there is nothing that that Sarah Palin will come close to learning to make an effective President. She ain't the learnin' type. One debate with Obama would show her to be the clueless dolt that she is, and they won't have the experience argument this go-round.
No really, keep it up, republicans. Keep lying to yourself and the 28%ers that still buy into that fantastical, amazing, steaming pile of bullshit.
Don't kid yourselves:
the other 20% that voted for McCain were a mishmash of bigots, scaredycats, team players (lifelong Republicans), and the woefully misinformed/ignorant/propagandized.
What the hell am I talking about???? Go ahead and kid yourselves! Have a ball! You're doing great! Keep doing exactly what you are doing. Yay, republican strategy!
Republicans are the pure definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Obviously they are completely incapable of learning from their mistakes.
Instead of retooling their failed philosophy and mean-spirited, divisive attacks on the democrats, the Republican's are continuing with their false rhetoric. Keep it up! Palin 2012!
1.) We live in an "American Idol" culture. She came out of nowhere like a Cinderella character. She was proclaimed to be, by the Republican Presidential nominee, his political "soul mate". They made her up and dressed her up to be the "hottie" she is, pulled the string on her "Chatty Sarah" back and let her go. Voila! Winner!
2.) The far right-wing religious wackos love her and are busy as I write this creating new bumper- stickers for her return: "Keep the CHANGE: Sarah Palin 2012".
3.) She is on a mission from God. Kinda like The Blues Brothers. (No offense to The Blues Brothers).
4.) Sarah Palin LOVES the designer duds and she needs an RNC budget to keep her in them.
5.) ANY excuse to get away from the kids!!
6.) Rev. "Witchcraft Hunter" Muthee laid hands on her the other day to "show her a way" to return to the lower 48.
7.) Todd REALLY wants to be the First Dude.
8.) Now that John McCain's out of the way...."her" style won't have to be cramped. "Nobody puts Sarah in the corner!!!"
9.) She secretly loves the fact that probably hundreds of thousands of men all over the world are bea..never mind.
10.) We just LOVE talking about her!
They say things like this: "The Republican Party needs to attract more people like Governor Palin, who are outside of the Beltway, who hold firm conservative values."
So this guy's strategy for the RNC is to attract more republicans? *shrug* Good luck with that! Thanks for not focusing on the center!
"This is still a very conservative country, a very pro-family country, pro-religion, pro-country"
One does not have to believe in selfish conservative economic ideology to be pro family, religion, or country. Plenty of good folks on the left are all those things. The "center right" bullshit these damn pundits keep trying to manipulate Obama with has got to stop now.
"Obama is an Arab."
"No he's not, he's a good man."
Same concept.
What do you mean by..." a very pro-family country, pro-religion, pro-country -- "?
Do you really think yhat liberal, progressive, center-leftists are AGAINST family, religion and country?
What arrogant, simple-minded idiocy!
No wonder they can see Palin as a possible saviour...They are no brighter than she is.
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and someone really needs to note that when you see pics or vids of the obama family, they are usually cuddling, holding hands, etc
no pics or vids of palin family doing anything close to that....and mccain hid his adoptive daughter from day one of this campaign
who has real family values?
No mention of McCain dumping his crippled wife for a sugar momma.
the dialogue
by now, they all should know that these fucks are gonna continue spitting out the same exact talking points
the idea is not to blurt back glib lines...attack the talking points
and this was supposed to be about palin...so when the wingnut house negro says "she had more exec experience than obama" you answer
here is a woman who charged her state a per diem to eat and sleep at home, who charged the state for her children's travel, who left the small town of wasilla with a 20 million dollar debt, who turned wasilla into a mess of box stores and meth houses, who has never represented the native population of the state, who bought her popularity by taxing big oil to hand out checks to every man woman and child...the american people felt that 8 years of that type of exec experience was enough
Bingo!
i love dean...but he never got the whole talking points concept down
i know its because dems like to use their brains...but sometimes you gotta have a good answer to wingnut idiocy
In four years time, Palin will be pushing into near fifty status. Unless she's prepared to go through a gruelling Madonna boot camp and inhale oxygen every day, she is going to move into older woman status. Ask Hillary how that works for her.
What about Ted Stevens? Is it possible she could replace him in the senate?
She is the golden puppet Repubs love. The dangerous joker like Reagan and Bush. You think they are harmless buffoons but they cause more harm under that facade, because you don't expect it. Dismiss these DJ's at your own peril.
You should google the name Pauline Hansen to see what damage one of these crazy wingnut ladies can do. She arose from nowhere,from being an owner of a takeout joint, she formed a right wing racist party called One Nation. It became very popular, and she was in the spotlight every day. It caused the conservative Australian Howard govt. to be re-elected by adopting her right wing fear policies. Fortunately, she lost her party, spent a term in jail for corruption, and appeared on tabloid magazine covers in her ill fitting fashion, then a stint on Dancing With the Stars. She threatens to come back at every federal election. She is a shallow husk these days, but we had to endure four more years of cruel conservative govt. thanks to her. These people ARE DANGEROUS. and they do not just go away.
i think her looks will hold up...even past 50
hillary was really never all that attractive
but palin wont be causing any repug wood when she hits 50...and that will be a prob for her
I for one hopes that she never goes away. Anyone who promotes the distinction between the 'real' America and the 90% of the rest of us will never be a serious national figure. Let's hope the GOP never sees this and continues in their delusion.
Paraphrasing: "I don't think I could get one black American to vote for me."
WAAAAAhhh...
what a fuckin asshat
can we please get someone up against this guy and get his ass out of congress?
I think he lost!! 51% -48%
strategy for '12.
I knew I should have left the TV on Family Guy...
"I suggest putting Dr. Kevorkian as the head of the RNC, because it's a suicide mission."
I don't care who you are, that's some funny shit.
Very nice.
is done. She's just doin' a dead cat bounce for a while. Moron.
Christian Right: 15%
African Americans: 13%
Latinos: 15%
The only way the Republicans can win against those numbers is by wooing the center, the swing voters (i.e., not the right).
No chance with the Latinos because of immigration. No chance with Blacks because they hate Blacks. The Christian right will abandon them when the Party honchos try to go for the Blacks and Latinos.
because they are at their heart, racists
but its not a racial issue
prob is, it is they, who opened up the flood gates, for the purpose of destroying the union and the middle class
so when they frame the argument, it always comes off racist
its what killed the repug party in california
but we libs should also be angry at illegal immigration...for the reasons i stated
there really doesnt need to be immigration reform...that is code for guest workers
its all a moot point anyway...with depression looming, no one is gonna be hopping fences for a good long time
Even Joe Sixpack and Betty Winebox are going to be ready to clean hotel rooms and pick lettuce by the time this shit is done. Yup.
never put Ron Christie on television again! Please!
'Morning Ron' on MSNBC,I understand there's an opening SOON.
A run in 2012? Well, she should be up to junior high courses by then.
Joe Sixpack agrees. Hiccup.
These RNC reps. are still claiming Palin has more experience!? Even if that was true, I'll take intelligence and character over experience any day.
Sarah Palin is more like Herpes
Painful swelling from the nether regions
Most commonly associated with sex without condoms.
Has been linked to neurological disorders
Sticks out like a sore thumb in an otherwise healthy environment
Resists treatment
Sarah the dumb dumb is a like a human run on sentence and a flamboyant narcissist. Ron Kristy needs to awake from his coma and realize that the American people rejected republican ideology and ideologues like Ron like a heart attack.
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... Sanjayah Palin.
LOLOLOLolololol
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Miss Ron Christie. When is Miss Thang going to come out of the closet?
"This is still a very conservative country, a very pro-family country, pro-religion, pro-country"
When repigs say that crap thats when they deserve a Progessive verbal smack down!!
Is the black guy a robot?? Miss Thang, is right.
"Why won't Sarah Palin go away?"
Really, why won't these weird pundits GO AWAY?
And by the way, it is just me or do more and more Repub Pundies seem gayer and gayer?
They must ALL just HATE THEMSELVES...
Why do Democrats, including Kofinas here, let G.O.P. mouthpieces get away with asserting that the U.S. is a center-right nation? If that's the case, how could McCain's argument that Obama is the most liberal member of the U.S. Senate translate into Obama's huge victory? The other thing that bothered me about this segment was the Republican's presumption that his party owns religion and family values. DEMOCRATS MUST FIGHT THESE FALSE CLAIMS EVERY TIME THEY COME UP!
Was he raised by white wolves?
The republican party is going to come back and kick our ass by putting foward the republican values?
Would those be the same values that randy duke cunningham has?
Or jack abramhoff? Or bob was it niegh? from Ohio was convected and sent to prison in the abramoff deal?
How about mark foley there was a good moral republican, child molester?
Are these the kind of values you want to teach your children?
Forgive me if this has been covered, but, as we're all very aware, Palin's not ready to let go of her 15 minutes yet, as indicated by the interviews being teased the last couple of days.
The Palin phenom is so loaded. There's so much to cringe, dislike and be internationally embarrassed about. It's the same insanity that allows Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jesse Ventura to hold office: The American people will vote for anyone in the public eye who has the ability to relate to a camera. Okay, I'm enough of a Warholian to get this concept and I can be (nearly) as susceptible to telegenic charm as the next guy. But Palin's like the plain, insecure girl at the frat party who got buzzed, hooked up with the second-string quarterback and woke up the next day thinking she's now Angelina Jolie. So, okay, our fame machine does indeed foster delusion that, like cocaine, can be very hard to kick...
but what completely melts my ice caps is the following:
Why has no one yet called this woman out on her Hate Speech? When will someone ask her to comment on the Secret Service stat showing every time she painted Obama with the terrorist-by-association brush, each anti-American accusation she used to whip up her crowds against Obama resulted in a spiking level of death threats surpassing any ever received for a candidate?
All we're hearing about is the clothing bills, the inner-circle snarking and backstabbing, and, of course, her victimization at the hands of the lying msm.
I'd like to hear this "guided by God to show me the open door" woman take responsibility for the hate - that's HATE! - she is directly responsible for.
Excellent point. Everyone is afraid to mention it, why? Because no one wants to take responsibility for acknowledging the racism flowing throughout the "conservative" party.
More than Reagan in 1980.
This is the third time I've heard someone emphasize Obama's 52% in order to plant the idea that it was barely a majority and thus a close election.
By any measure, Obama's win last week was a landslide. He brought in 8 million more popular votes and 200 more electoral votes. All but a handful of states trended Democratic compared to 2004 results.
There's no logical way Republicans can get away with calling it "close." They need to accept that they had their asses handed to them and move on.
The more attention the media pay to this monkey-punchline, the longer she'll hang around. Please stop.
She is a tragic mistake, a cynical dying gasp from the rotting corpse of the Republican party.
Let's all wave goodbye as she floats away, back to the North Country that spewed her onto the "lower 48."
Perhaps a song? (Sung to the tune of "Bye Bye Blackbird" - come on now, with FEELING!)
Juneau's lookin' mighty good
As it should
That's your hood
Bye-bye, Sarah
Africa is far away
So just stay
In AK
Bye-bye, Sarah!
There are many books up there for bannin'
And lots of firings that must need a- plannin'
Take your kids and move along
With a song
Don't take long
Sarah, bye-bye!
Also, also, also, there, there, allllllso
Also, also, there, there, also, allllllso
Put those clothes on Ebay, dear
Don't shed a tear
Have no fear
Bye-bye Sarah!
Keep an eye on Putin's plane
As you explained
He's such a pain
Bye-bye Sarah!
Your shotgun's needin' loadin' soon
For the bride
And the groom
Bye-bye Sarah
No one here can love or understand you,
Oh, what funny stories told about you,
You made your bed and lit the light,
You'll be home late tonight,
Sarah bye-bye.
(big finish)
SARAH BYE BYE!
...you're still allowing the Republicans to throw out their memes unchallenged.
Here's the quote:
"This is still a very conservative country, a very pro-family country, pro-religion, pro-country....."
So remember, if you're not Republican, you're NOT "pro-country". IOW, if you're a Democrat, you're not a "real" American.
"....and the horse you rode in on pal."
52% isn't a mandate but 51% was? Whatever. I was surprised to turn on NBC Evening News last night and see Palin and family being interviewed. NOW she'll do an interview? After months of hiding? Of course now she doen't have to answer policy questions or actually know anything. And I suspect it was the campaign who didn't want her doing interviews. I'm sure she would've been happy to show her ignorance on the national stage.
Damn, it's going to be 2050 and the Repugs will STILL be referring to Ronald Reagan.
Reagan's philosophy is most of the reason why this country is in the crapper. Deregulation, trickle-down economics, a limited social service system, tax cuts for the rich, etc.
I guess the implication is that liberals are not pro-family, pro-religion or pro-country. Now isn't that silly!?
To all of you conservatives out there, I have a question? Do you think your liberal relatives and children are somehow against these values?
Can you honestly hold your conservative head up while supporting a belief which pretends those with a different political philosophy are against family, religion and country? If so, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
You (conservative) people need to join the real world. Not everyone who holds a different belief is a child of Satan. Really, there is an entire period of history where civilized humans began to realize facts force one to accept things that ideology ignores. That period in history had a symbolic name ... The Enlightenment.
Obama got only 52%, so the Republicans say he doesn't have a mandate. Well, how much did Bush get for this first term -- 48-49%, or how much did he get for his second term in 2004? Bush and Cheney certainly acted like they had a mandate. If this is supposed to be a center-right country, then Obama getting 52% when McCain and his campaign kept trying to paint him as one of the most liberal people in the US Senate -- then that is quite an accomplishment. Having increased their majorities in the US Senate and House of Representatives, the Democrats have to be viewed as having a mandate. It has to be viewed as a rejection of the conservative philosophy used by Bush and Cheney and Rove. You have to wonder if Republicans are saying these things in private during their strategy sessions and whether they actually believe this stuff. I mean, have they "drunk the kool-aid", or are they putting on a brave face and hoping that if they say these things often enough then other people will come to believe it?
I heard Craig Ferguson make the Palin:Sanjayah comparison oh his show last week ... he gets credit for the meme.
As a black man all I have to say to the GOP strategist is...NIGGA PLEASE!
Is he flipping kidding? Small government???? Low taxes????? I don't know what Republican party he's referring to, but it certainly is not the current one!
Good ol' cross-eyed Ron Christie, a real oreo-cookie if I ever saw one. A real ass-kisser, yassuh-boss type.
This guy hasn't had an original thought in 25 years, he's the Republican's token-Afro man.
Both my brother and my best fried are cockeyed. I love them both very much, but both are a little nutty. Christie would be right at home with them both.
As somone said farther up, the center is the center. They probably think that old ray gun provided the eternal and objective definition of moderate though. Just more evidence that either the republicans are retarded and/or are manipulators. I loved how funny the democrat thought this all was. We all need to be careful though and not come off as being too gloating or overly smart on the national stage or some voters may react negatively. Off topic, I plan to sell fake reagan bath water outside the next repug rally so they can all have a drink. Anyone want to invest?
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