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We first noticed Marine Sgt. Charles Dyer, aka "July4Patriot," back in March, when we ran one of the first reports on the "Oath Keepers" bloc of the Tea Party movement -- an organization devoted to recruiting military and police-force veterans into a Patriot-movement belief system predicated on a series of paranoid conspiracy theories, especially the notion that the federal government intends to begin rounding up citizens and putting them in concentration camps.

Dyer played a prominent role in connecting the Oath Keepers to the Tea Party movement, speaking at a July 4 Tea Party rally in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. And he's been involved in organizing militia "maneuvers" in Oklahoma.

Dyer cropped up again in the news -- this time in the police blotter for allegedly raping a 7-year-old girl:

An ex-military man has been arrested on charges of rape of a child and forcible sodomy.

Charles Alan Dyer, 29, of Marlow, was arrested Tuesday afternoon by Stephens County Sheriff’s deputies, said Sheriff Wayne McKinney. Dyer served in the United States Marines in Iraq.

Oh, and guess what police found when they searched his home:

During the search the sheriff’s deputies noted several firearms and a device believed to be a Colt M-203, 40-millimeter grenade launcher, a complaint filed in the United States District Court of Western Oklahoma by Alcohol, Firearms and Tobacco Special Agent Brett Williams said.

As the story from KAUZ-TV notes, Dyer had a history of making bizarre claims in his videos -- as well as violent fears of being arrested.

“We come home and those bastards want to talk about how we’re domestic terrorists and a threat to this country. It makes me so angry,” said Charles Dyer, who has been accused of committing rape.

... More incriminating evidence against Dyer has surfaced in a YouTube video. The video shows Dyer, a former U.S. Marine, talking proudly about domestic terrorism. “Join the military?”, said Dyer. “Depends on what you want to do with it. Me? I'm going to use my training and become one of those domestic terrorists that you’re so afraid of from the DHS reports.”

... “I’m certainly not going to be hiding from my command anymore. I’m not hiding from ATF. Not hiding from FBI. Any organization. If they want to come get me I’m not going to be afraid,” Dyer said.

“Patriots, we are not overpowered. If we united under one banner and fight for our children’s liberity and the constitution, our resolve is invincible to any standing army,” Dyer said.

GossipBoy is reporting that the rape victim was a close family member. They also report that Dyer had been in touch with a fellow militiaman linked to explosives dealing, and that when bomb-sniffing dogs searched Dyer's home, they indicated explosives had been stored there recently.

Meanwhile, unsurprisingly, the folks at American Resistance Movement -- a group Dyer was also prominently involved in -- are claiming that Dyer was set up, and the girl who accused him was "programmed" to do so. Accordingly, they've set up a "Free July4Patriot" fund, with a little button on their front page so you can donate.

Also, Dyer's YouTube page remains active.

Every movement attracts its freaks. But the Patriot movement attracts an inordinate number of them -- and particularly people with a pedophilia problem. (I can list at least 10 different prominent figures in the Northwest's Patriot movement in the 1990s who had a history of being charged with abusing and abducting children.) Evidently, being a pedophile leads to resentment of the government -- probably for its desire to lock you away.

We'll reserve judgment on Dyer's guilt or innocence for after the trial. But let's just say that the predictable claims that he's been arrested as part of a government plot to silence him are not exactly compelling in this case.

[Thanks to Susie for her help with this post.]

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See my comment to your spam above.

Translation:

We stand behind our child raper patriot.

Funny how the officer was completely correct to arrest Prof Gates but now 'the law' is corrupt.

)O(

Mebbe we should stick to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI

)O(

I wonder how he's going to get along with the GP. I'm sure he's fine with the whole rainbow of humanity, but you never know. He could be weird about it.

My name is SGT Justin Brown; the Hawaii Liaison for Oath Keepers. Certain facts need to be cleared up. Oath Keepers is not a militia movement; it was organized simply to educate Active troops and law enforcement on the Constitution and to allow them to understand that our Oath is to protect such. Also, to stand DOWN, NOT UP, in times when unlawful orders are given. SGT Dyer was also affiliated with Oath Keepers, but never officially a member; so everyone needs to get the facts straight. As a 3 time Combat Infantryman I am appauled that this article would allow people to believe such. See Stuart Rhodes official statement about such also. We're here to protect the Constitution and the people; that is it.

You use your religious values to subvert the constitution. You should be charged with treason.

one wonders why the fck they didn't "stand-down" then on iraq...everyone i knew was aware of the truth.

these illiterate bastards get their education from faux news, sarah palin and the heritage foundation. they wouldn't have the tools or capacity to interpret even one word of the constitution if they're puckered little taints were at stake.

jesus, they don't even understand the definition of "fascism" and are supporters and accessories to the absolute surrender of this nation to the "real" fascist whilst accusing those truly defending democracy.

fuck'em...

All you clowns are doing is instigating a rebellion.
Go fuck yourself you treasonous bastard.

And I'm appalled you treasonous fucks are still out walking the streets.
So, NOW you guys decide to throw your BFF under the bus.
Too little too late. Hit the road traitor.

Go piss up a rope.

And whatever ye so soweth, ye shall reap. Or something like that. In other words, it's coming back, dude. I almost feel sorry for you and this sick, twisted creep, Dyer. Wait, now that I think about it a little more......nah.

Utter bullshit. You insane fucks are the very right wing domestic terrorists that we constantly see popping off in the news, just as this latest child-raping leader of yours.

No offense but stupid lies are stupid. You insane fucks had 8 years to "fight for America!" but when a black man gets elected, suddenly you stupid fucks think you're our nation's heros.

Bet you you're a Christian, too.

Seems like it's more of a club for pederasts.

)O(

Big wup, I'm former Air Force, Top Secret Clearance, and I haven't raped any kids.

And we have a number of vets on this site.

)O(

Quote from article:

"Dyer cropped up again in the news -- this time in the police blotter for allegedly raping a 7-year-old girl..."

Therefore your mock "concern" for due process is a crock of shit.

As for any comments here, there just the opinions of those who visit the site, enjoying their rights to free speech and assembly

But I doubt you have any knowledge of that

It's in the first amendment.

Interestingly enough although the presumption of innocence does have a precedent in stare decisis, it is not a Constitutional right. What is in the Constitution are the IV, V and VI amendments that the treasonous boosh pretendership ignored at will, under a misreading of the 1st and 2nd articles.

)O(

Oh, and it's properly Sgt. not SGT; the former is clearly an abbreviation and the latter looks more like an acronym.

SGT= Sucks Goat Testicles?

)O(

You don't talk much but I like the way you communicate.

)O(

Any better?

http://www.delusionresistance.org/images/Baph...

What these traitorous fascist pigs are dependent upon are Americans being ignorant of our history, such as in 1933 the industrialist/bankers group, led by prescott boosh, with the American Legion, that approached General Smedley Butler to help them overthrow the US government, and in France the Croix de Feur that helped install Vichy.

Either that, or their ignorant of the facts themselves.

If they had a modicum of intelligence they would not be a member of such a group.

)O(

I swore to uphold the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic

I don't know what the hell these guys swore on.

To molest the defenseless.

To blame their own failings on anyone else.

Did I miss any?

)O(

To disassociate and disassemble if one of them is caught.

That's how terrorist cells operate.

Apparently Dyer swore an oath on the NAMBLA quarterly newsletter

Oh yeah...that Prescott was one bad, bad, shady character!

SGT= Still Groping Tots

Bonus Round:
What sort of oath did they swear to?

SGT Justin Brown, my name is SSG Reece of the U.S. Army and it is my duty as an Noncommissioned Officer to inform you that 1) If you are currently serving in the Military, you cannot use your rank in support of a private organization such as the Oath Keepers, this is a violation of the UCMJ. 2) If you are a member of the U.S. military and you make any statements as some of the members of this organization regarding the violent overthrow of our government, you are violating the UCMJ 3) If you are activly recruiting members of the military to join such organization, you are violating the UCMJ 4) If you are ex-military and you did not retire from the military, you are not entitled to continue to use your rank. 5) You "Oath Takers" seemed to have forgotten the next part of that oath you took "That I will obey the orders of the President of The United States of America and to obey the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice." If the President gives you an order to put down an armed insurrection and you refuse to obey, you are violating your oath and the UCMJ. If you urge fellow members of the military to obey such an order, you are guilty of mutiny. 6) It is not the individual soldiers' opinion on what constitutes an unlawful order, but their superior officers' opinion on what constitutes an unlawful order.

Facts are lost on the teabagger set but we appreciate the truth here.

Thank You Staff Sargent Reece.
I'm so glad we still have people like you in the military.

... is his membership in an evangelical Christian church.

::: rolleyes :::

)O(

"...fight for our children's liberty." Precious.

Look! It's an independent voter! Let's enable him!!

f****n perv. Some of you folks might recall how I feel about this "alleged" crime. Yeah, I hope he likes GP. And his new bff bubba.
Then there's the whole treason thing. F**k this guy. I hope he goes to the Gallows Pole.Good mornin folks.

As I'm sure you know, a good percentage of inmates were abused as children. So, they don't take kindly to child molesters. Most are placed in solitary confinement.

I hope he's placed in the general population, and they ride him like a rented mule.

It's not just that a lot of the inmates were abused as children, but a lot of them are parents, themselves. You don't give that up when you go to prison.

I knew a guy, white, in his 50's, who molested three young (7,5 and 3 respectively) black girls. Judge gave him 20 years without parole (it was his third offense). They found him cut into numerous pieces (with some pieces missing) less than six months after he went to prison.

This is the kind of crime even BFF Bubba won't put up with.

I'm certain we'll soon learn that this, like the countless similar incidents from like-minded people from the same movement, was just an "isolated incident."

to love and to all life is something wonderful...

The chanting of any other kind is petty tribalism....
and for the small minded.

usually smells like rotting flesh because they are no longer breathing

... so I think he shouldn't have any rights. He should be shipped off to Gitmo and waterboarded, because I'm sure he has critical information about the rest of his terrorist organization.

/snark

helloooooooo Gitmo.

terrorist. They didn't even have to waterboard him into confessing that.

... from the MSM.

CNN or MSNBC just provides links to the websites of these traitors.

either. We need to flood their site with queries on this subject to get them to pay attention. If enough of us search for a story the pages we search on will respond.

...Erik Prince's service.

...just another typical cowardly militant teabagger letting out all of his festering anger from hatefully twisted Glenn Beck ideologies on defenseless children.....all in a day's work for these Glenn Beck Zombies.

My name is SGT Justin Brown; the Hawaii Liaison for Oath Keepers. Certain facts need to be cleared up. Oath Keepers is not a militia movement; it was organized simply to educate Active troops and law enforcement on the Constitution and to allow them to understand that our Oath is to protect such. Also, to stand DOWN, NOT UP, in times when unlawful orders are given. SGT Dyer was also affiliated with Oath Keepers, but never officially a member; so everyone needs to get the facts straight. As a 3 time Combat Infantryman I am appauled that this article would allow people to believe such. See Stuart Rhodes official statement about such also. We're here to protect the Constitution and the people; that is it.

Hey, he's one of yours. What took you guys so long to throw this criminal out? Now that he's making you guys look like criminals? Now You decide to come out against him? Too late bub. You should have spoken out sooner. It's your own fault. Not to mention the treasonous behavior.
You guys took an oath. Which oath are you going to abide by?
yeah, I'm a Vet too. You guys disgust me.

You are a traitor.

Go troll on your own site.

... but you have some pretty vile, dang near treasonous things online:
http://www.google.com/search?q=inf11b38

Nice try douche bag,you've been exposed treasonous bastard.

SGT Justin Brown, my name is SSG Reece of the U.S. Army and it is my duty as an Noncommissioned Officer to inform you that 1) If you are currently serving in the Military, you cannot use your rank in support of a private organization such as the Oath Keepers, this is a violation of the UCMJ. 2) If you are a member of the U.S. military and you make any statements as some of the members of this organization regarding the violent overthrow of our government, you are violating the UCMJ 3) If you are activly recruiting members of the military to join such organization, you are violating the UCMJ 4) If you are ex-military and you did not retire from the military, you are not entitled to continue to use your rank. 5) You "Oath Takers" seemed to have forgotten the next part of that oath you took "That I will obey the orders of the President of The United States of America and to obey the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice." If the President gives you an order to put down an armed insurrection and you refuse to obey, you are violating your oath and the UCMJ. If you urge fellow members of the military to obey such an order, you are guilty of mutiny. 6) It is not the individual soldiers' opinion on what constitutes an unlawful order, but their superior officers' opinion on what constitutes an unlawful order.

I forgot in my earlier post, "SGT" Dyer professed to being a member of the Oath Takers, but maybe the Oath Takers is like the mafia and a person is only an associate until he is made.

Every NRA nut just creamed his jeans.

A fookin grenade launcher. OK gun nuts, lets see you spin this one.

Bu,Bu, Bu,.... it's my right to be able to defend myself.
Yeah, cause we all know everyone needs a fookin grenade launcher to be able to defend themselves. What is this? Somalia? Afghanistan?
Might as well throw in automatic weapons too.
You know, just in case a guy with a hand gun breaks into your house and tries to rob you. That way you can riddle him with bullets in a matter of a second or two. No need to be a marksman. Just point and pull the trigger.
What's next? Mined front and backyards? Claymores?

good tune that taught us about that

This is what I don't get about the more extreme gun nuts. Why should anyone be allowed to own a grenade launcher or other assault weapon? For what purpose do they exist but to kill? If someone really just wants to use these to shoot something, why can't they just be restricted to target ranges which are regulated. I wonder if what he owned was legal?

And, to top it off, he's a child molester. Put him away for life.

Every outdoorsman needs a grenade launcher to hunt with, it's as natural and precise as a bow and arrow. LMAO!

Is usually within the family or close friendship. During my years of working in addictions, most of the women suffering from alcoholism or drug addiction were raped as children by someone within the family. Many of the women that come to me for weight management hypnosis, also report rape as a child from someone within the family.

Conservative legal firm Spears, Moore, Rebman and Williams, a "The Practice" of Nashville and Chattanooga, actively rewards those arrested for pedophilia, as long as they are acquitted once and once only. The firm, which includes a television-connected North of counsel, utilizes entertainment-industry residuals to gift accused pedophiles, after a girl who accused an uncle of a "Practitioner" was forced to recant an accusation on threats that her father would be jailed for late child support.

Three car dealerships in Southern Appalachia have their origins in this fund. My boss is a relative of one of the recipients. I am not making this up. The fund is administered by a White who is a cousin of the KKK Charles Whites.

I quote myself from a lower post in this very thread:

"These authoritarian controlling guys love to control people who can't defend themselves via sexual abuse, whether it be priests, David Koresh, or this nut."

)O(

They want so sexually abuse priests and David Koresh?

Well, the latter is already a stiff.

but but but ... he's a CHRISTIAN PATRIOT!!!! Clearly, Dobson can wash away his sins so he continue to do the Lord's work

... Brit Hume and Bill O'Reilly can visit him in prison to minister to him.

And, God willing, they'll lose the frakkin' key.

who molest minors make mockery of movement that maim their manifesto to be mahouts.*

...artistry....

A little alliteration lately?

ROFL Well played, sir.

That some posters find humor in this. There is nothing funny to the child that is being raped. This child has to live with the pain and conflicting feelings for a big part of it's life, that is, until she or he receives sufficient therapy.

The rape of children is one of the most despicable crimes.

But to be fair, he hasn't gone to trial yet.
Child rape and/or murder is the only exception I make to being against the death penalty. For those crimes, I have no problem with them being put down.

People may be seeing some humor in how absurd these assholes are.
Claiming to be patriotic, while they are just criminals. Of the worst kind I might add. So, I wouldn't read to much into the humor ( or attempted humor).
Have a nice day Cats. Off to work.

launching wars of aggression and institutionalizing torture(especially when death results) as legitimate reasons for the death penalty also.

I don't have to add those!! They are already in our legal code!

That's allegedly "institutionalizing torture", he hasn't gone to trial yet. What? Oh, never mind.

Dyer should be tried in accordance with the law and sentenced appropriately. No one has said otherwise (my own comment suggesting he be shipped to Gitmo was clearly marked as sarcasm).

The twisted humor in this is that Dyer is another self-proclaimed uber-patriot, and it turns out he's just a petty thug who also happened to have a grenade launcher in his basement.

And I'm guessing there was some degree or PTSD as well.

It is a despicable crime and it breaks my heart that a child and her family now has to suffer for this crime in the duration of their lifetimes.

However, there's little I can say that hasn't been said before. I don't advocate violence and the person in question hasn't been convicted of any crime (innocent until proven guilty). Aside from that, what more can I say, if I'm to remain consistent with my core beliefs?

Until all of the answers are given; people don't have enough evidence to condemn him yet. He's also not a part of Oath Keepers; just affiliated. Stewart Rhodes and him split ways because of the militia aspect. It's sad that no one looks into the truth anymore, just believing the media's perversion on such.

I just see an extremist video and a police report.

Concern troll alert.

But it didn't take you long to disown him did it?
Oh, just affiliated. uh huh. You speak of the truth?
How dare you insult the truth. Ok, maybe he's not a active member anymore. But you guys let it ride for all it was worth when the goin was good. That makes you just as guilty of the same shit he was saying on his videos. A Grenade Launcher?
WTF was he going to do with that? You guys know. You have to know. I'm glad you showed up to defend your treason. Cause the FBI has got your number now asshole.

And before you clowns start some shit. Just remember this. You aren't the only ones who have weapons. you know, just so you know.

The insane Christian pile of traitorshit was video taped being an "Oath Keeper" cult leader spewing his insane Christanic Republinazism, ya fucking idiot.

No offfense intended,

Makes me think of better uses for that grenade launcher of his.

Child porn also is the fastest growing segment of porn. Somewhere, there's more big, big money behind its production. Not all of this can be ascribed to men with tiny peckers and tinier brains.

What the hell can an adult possibly see in a little kid like that? It's nothing less than pure victimization of their youthful innocence and naivety. If anyone went near my son like that, it would be a race between me and my wife to see who could take the bastard out first.

Innocent Until Proven Guilty. I'm sure that since the government now preaches against it, people tend to forget such.

She me where the govt' says that? You've been duped.
I hope you live a long time. A long healthy life. So you can think about your treasonous behavior. So it lasts for years and years. Right, you got nuthin. just some bullshit about the "gov't". Where the fuck were you when Bush started the illegal war in Iraq?
Right, you were in Iraq. You got taken for a ride you simpleton.

Due process should move forward.

Where was your concern about "innocent until proven guilty" during the Bush Jr years, with torture as official US policy, warrantless spying on US citizens, indefinite detention and suspension of habeas corpus?

Interesting the "Oathkeepers" weren't around and kicking during the Bush Jr years, which kinda shoots down their BS about "defending the Constitution".

Fucking losers.

Yep

Yep, these scumbag domestic terrorist loons stood aside and applauded while their fellow Christianic terrorist George W. Bush committed war crimes against humanity, committed mass treason against America, and looted trillions from our national treasury.

Now we got us a black guy in the White House so now these scumbag "Oath Keeper" child rapists come ouot of the fucking woodwork.

It's obvious what these Republinazi Christian piles of shit are all about. They *hate* America.

to prison and his fellow inmates find out what he is in for, he'll get his.

hopefully they have more evidence than the statement of a child, I've seen too many witch hunts go that way. Rather than rushing to pat our selves on the back, lets just see how the case shakes out. Yes we don't like him, but its too easy for investigators to lead a child witness.

... is that Mr. Dyer will receive the benefit of law and, specifically, rights that some of our legislators, 'news' commentators, and even religious leaders think should be denied terrorist suspects.

The thing he hates the most, he's going to hide behind.

that any prosecutor would file such charges without more evidence then a 7 year old childs statement!!!

No smart DA is going forward with such a charge without some physical evidence. Too often kids are used to manufacture false charges in divorces or even business arguments. So while an investigation would certainly be opened on the allegation, the first thing the detective is going to do is request a full rape kit and physical exam.

Since the charge is "child rape" I'm thinking that there is sufficient evidence for the DA to prove that forcible sexual intercourse took place.

When he gets bailed out for that he gets picked up by the sheriff for child rape.

BTW his compadres are threatening the kid and the ones that blew the lid on this.

I've maintained the bigger and/or uglier the gun the smaller the deal and the mind.

This will give Alex Jones and the other tinfoil hat bunch of whack jobs months of rants.

!!!

They're supposed to be the armed resistance to the government-- some big paramilitary group whose going to resist the big bad government and never surrender. But they let their leader get arrested by the local constabulary. They bitch about it being all a "set up", but the most they can do is set up a pay pal account to pay for a lawyer?!? All talk.

No no! Why it's just been explained right here on C&L comments. The guy isn't an "Oath Keeper," no, they never heard of him. No, he's a Democrat trying to make the *real* "Oath Keepers" look like right wing domenstic terrorisxt child rapists.

Probably Pelosi sent him.

I can just imagine what Faux News' report on this story might look like:
Charles Dyer(D)OK accused of rape and sodomy of 7 year old.

of these nasty America haters. They hate us for our freedoms, they hate us for our democracy, and they hate our laws most of all. These scum are truly the worst of the worst.

My heart breaks for her. She will never be the same.

I hope he is never let out to do this again because if he is set free, he will do this again.

Meanwhile the child will never be the same.

Fucking jerks.

Aren't there police officers and high ranking military members in this terrorist cell?

Oh yeah, FOX "News" will give these insane rightarded loon a job, if Sarah Palin is any indication.

an oaf keeper was some kind of tupperware container for turds. I was almost right.

I just watched some of that video.....hard to do....and I remember when C&L first brought this to our attention last March.

He's using the language that people like beck use...."patriots," "tyranny", etc., etc.

I hope this entire group is investigated. I bet they find a large number of them in a similar situation as Dyer is.....holding huge caches of weapons, some perhaps illegal, rapists, sickos, etc..

I am so sick of people who claim to be "patriots" and rally against the tyrants in government yet turn out to be scum of society. This country has no place for people like this.

That is one of many reasons I so despise teabaggers.....not just because I disagree with them, not just because of their offensive racial signs, but because they parade around with guns and colonial outfits, claiming they are "patriots." S*@#$*#w these so-called "patriots."

What seems weird to me about this conspiracy of these FEMA camps people were going to get rounded up and sent to. That conspiracy started with the paranoid left when Bush was in office. Then when Obama got in office suddenly the story flipped and the paranoid right saying the exact same thing about Obama.

Is this hypocrisy in conspiracy theories?

Those theories didnt start when Bush was in Office, they have existed at least since Clinton was in office in the mid 90's.

I clearly remember on a drive through very rural Nevada, talking to a local bar owner who seemed like a nice guy, until he started going on asking me if I knew all about the 'FEMA camps' that were being setup. One of the more specific locations mentioned was near Indianapolis(Beech Grove or something).

From the looks of the 'literature' he was trying to give me, Id say this particular theory had been around even longer, probably since FEMA began.

Get your facts straight. The FEMA camp nonsense was a right-wing militia conspiracy during the Clinton years, and kept alive by Alex Jones during the Bush years. To say it was started by the 'paranoid left' is ridiculous, unless you consider Alex Jones part of 'the left'.

)O(

Funny, I thought he'd rape the pup and kick the baby

"No, don't kick the baby..."

)O(

When his prison mates find out he's a child molester.

Just goes to show that if you're crazy enough to listen to Mr. Jones, you're probably crazy enough to rape a child.

Perhaps the Pentagon should focus on purging these guys from the military instead of teh gays.

Just a thought.

These twisted sickos are coveted in our modern day military precisely for their blood lust. War is our only growth industry so we are increasingly having to scrape the bottom of the gene pool barrel.

Why would someone need so many guns? They're terrified of everything. I live in a small town and I know people like this (minus the child rape part, hopefully). And one thing stands out about all of them-- they pretend to be brave and powerful but really they're terrified of everything. I know an old man who carries a pistol everywhere he goes. What is he so afraid of?

My guess is this guy had an abusive father who beat him and maybe molested him. He was probably taken out "hunting" at a very early age and forced to kill because that's how you become a "man". Throw in some horrific war experiences and you've got a recipe for disaster. Sad.

This is what clinging to your bible and your guns gets you.

the hard way is never use a grenade launcher in your house...your cover is blown and you always die!
(in my video games)

sorry to hear a kid was hurt in this insanity.

No one could have predicted this guy's tracks in the snow would lead to something awful.sheesh

A grenade launcher is the perfect home defense weapon. Some would-be crook breaks into your house, you blow them to smithereens...along with half of the kitchen.

I didn't see a charge for resisting arrest. You would think that would be the first thing the leader of a *resistance* movement would do.

The MFer prolly wilted like a daisy in a sauna when the police came charging in.

(I can list at least 10 different prominent figures in the Northwest's Patriot movement in the 1990s who had a history of being charged with abusing and abducting children.)

Did any of them get convicted, or were they just charged? To be fair, charged doesn't really count, does it? (And before the pile-on, I think all of these people are snakes, but let's have our ducks in a row before we say stuff like this, OK?)

First of all, assuming he really is a Marine, he does NOT speak for the entire USMC, thank God.

I really resent the fact that these right-wing government hating assholes in the military seem to overlook the fact that they're collecting a TAXPAYER FUNDED PAYCHECK that I'm helping pay for. They'll also be collecting TAXPAYER FUNDED BENEFITS for the rest of their lives. If you hate the government so much, then put your money where your mouth is and get a job in private industry.

Secondly, don't give me that horseshit that I owe assholes like this guy "respect" because they're "fighting for my freedom." There is no such thing as freedom in the abstract. People are free to do certain things and forbidden from doing other things. If this guy's idea of "freedom" is allowing Rupert Murdoch to buy all major media outlets in America then argue, with a straight face, that I have the same "freedom" under the First Amendment as Murdoch does, then I don't know whose "freedom" he's fighting for, but it certainly isn't mine.

So....show some modesty and respect for your fellow citizens, dickhead. You might have fought for my freedom while in the Marines, but you took a vow to defend the CONSTITUTION. Like it or not, Obama was elected legally and according to constitutional precepts.

And I'm paying your salary, so STFU.

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does this article say Dyer is the "leader" of Oath Keepers? It only states Dyer played a "prominent role." It says nothing about him being the "leader" of Oath Keepers.

Go slow. Reading comprehension isn't a strong suit with this bunch.

I'll grant you that. I was too focused on the fine print and I ignored the headline.

Nevertheless, the guy is still an asshole.

them. Or they liked his courage in recording his diatribe in uniform and behind a mask.

The covering up they are attempting now will get them nowhere on this site.

You should save the taxpayers money and report post haste to the FBI.

Not too big on brains these asswipes.

FREE HAT! FREE HAT! FREE HAT!

What was the little girl's name? Madge Oberholtzer?

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose...

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" Samuel Johnson, 18th century English Political Writer. Why am I not surprised at this development?

*Obviously* the crazy violent guy could never be an incestuous pedophile; it must be a set-up!

These authoritarian controlling guys love to control people who can't defend themselves via sexual abuse, whether it be priests, David Koresh, or this nut.

Who didn't see something like this coming a mile away from these lunatics.

The best part of this is watching all of their lame youtube tribute videos. Nothing like inbred looking red-necks shaving their heads for their new folk hero, a child rapist. lol

Golly, a Christian hate mongering pile of Republican traitorshit caught raping kids. That's a first.

So these 10 are heterosexual, patriots are pedophiles.

And I bet they are homophobic for among other excuses, the known "fact" that homos prey on children.

Make descent people want to cry.

Where's all the TeaBaggers rioting over this guy fooling them? Teabagges support baby rapers? Oh, wait....Where's all the TeaBaggers saying the little girl is at fault? Yeah, where are the Teabaggers? Oh.....they are....one of......oh....

if somebody is trying to make a case to me and they feel the need to add dramatic music, they're full of shit.

inf11b38 - There is no reason for you fools to have a secret organization. If you adhere to the UCMJ like you are supposed to you will be just fine. You have military lawyers who are tasked with educating you on what is and is not legal under the Articles of War. Are you fucking kidding me? Try using this shit as a defense in a Court Martial and see how far you get. Read the goddamn UCMJ - you don't need your little underground cabal. That is how the SS and the SD took over the German Army in the 1930's.

in hiding their identities with masks.

Yeah right, you are an above board organization. You won't mind putting your names online so we know where to send the authorities after you.

They won't because they're treasonous little sissies.

Where is his CSM?

Wow!!

Probably the one with the explosives now. They have what they call "pure" units full of these festering cancers in some branches.

And I just can't imagine something like that flying. The amount of secrecy that would be required...I just can't imagine them not getting caught by someone who would insist on doing the right thing.
Goodness I hope I'm not monumentally naive.

Plus commanders are also in on it.

Remember when they booted the gay's and dropped the no felony charges preventing enlistment. This the end result, thugs running the units. Did you see his stripes on his uniform? Pretty young for so many promotions compared to many in the military. They knew and put him in a leadership position.

You think these people would be so concerned about their 'oath-keeping' if the crazy old white guy had won the election?

They would sit back while the country falls apart,and not give a shit.Just like they did when previous administration was in charge.

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