As 'Tea Parties' lose steam, fringe conspiracists step up to the fore
By David Neiwert Monday Jul 06, 2009 10:00am
If it wasn't already obvious that the right-wingers who organized the Tax Day Tea Parties vastly overstated their actual significance -- except as a harbinger of the slide towards right-wing populism -- then this past weekend should lay any doubts to rest.
Even before the holiday weekend, it was clear that the planned 2nd edition of the Tea Tantrums Parties was going to be somewhat less than energetic. David Weigel at the Washington Independent observed that a lot of this had to do with mainstream support peeling away:
But the collaboration between the official Republican establishment and the Tea Parties has not lasted into June. The RNC has no plans to get involved with any Tea Parties. A spokesman for Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio), who jaunted around northern California to attend several Tea Parties, said that his holiday plans were private but would probably not include Tea Parties. Gingrich will not attend any of the Tea Parties, although he recorded video messages for events in Birmingham and Nashville “at the request of the respective organizers,” according to spokesman Dan Kotman.
Media coverage has also gotten a little bit more scarce. Coverage on Fox News has largely been limited to interviews with Tea Party organizers on the network’s morning shows. While sources at Fox would not discuss their plans for covering the weekend events, they confirmed that no anchors would be attending and that the attendance and news value of the events looked to be lower than that of the April rallies. Tea Party organizers are counting, instead, on local news coverage and on distributed reporting such as the conservative news site PajamasTV, which hosts an “American Tea Party” show and has asked readers to submit their own videos from their rallies.
Part of the dynamic of right-wing populism is that, as whatever mainstream backing it gathers initially peels away, its more radical elements rise to the fore. And indeed, the Anti-Defamation League warned beforehand that extremists were likely to be making their presence felt at these gatherings:
White supremacists and neo-Nazi hate groups plan to take advantage of the anti-tax "Tea Parties" set to occur in more than 1,000 cities and localities over the July 4 holiday weekend to disseminate racist fliers and other materials and attempt to recruit others to their cause, according to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).
ADL's Center on Extremism, which monitors extremist groups and provides information to law enforcement and the public, has released information on its Web site describing the attempt by white supremacists to co-opt the anti-tax message of the events as a means to spread racism and anti-Semitism.
On Stormfront, the most popular white supremacist Internet forum, members have discussed becoming local organizers of the "Tea Parties" and finding ways to involve themselves in the events. Many racists have voiced their intent to attend these rallies for the purpose of cultivating an "organized grassroots White mass movement," with some suggesting that they would do so without openly identifying themselves as racists.
If you watch the above video -- featuring clips culled from various Tea Parties around the nation, including (in order of appearance) Norwich, Conn.; Broken Arrow, Oklahoma; Cape Coral, Florida; Raleigh, North Carolina; and La Canada/Flintridge, California -- you can see it all: the lackluster crowds, combined with a toxic dose of truly wingnutty rhetoric.
The conspiracists were obviously out in force. In Oklahoma, a man calling himself "July4Patriot" talked about his organization, the "Oath Keepers" -- a collection of freshly returned war veterans who are organizing to resist the impending New World Order. As you can hear, among the things they fear is that the government intends to conduct house-to-house searches of private homes and begin rounding up citizens and putting them in concentration camps. The only thing missing was the black helicopters (though give him enough time, and that probably will turn up too).
Then there was the "Birther" speaker in Florida who assured everyone that the Constitution is based on Biblical law, and added that President Obama isn't a constitutionally legal president because he won't show his birth certificate. Or the woman in California who warned that illegal immigrants were the real problem.
The conspiracist element was everywhere -- and so was the fizzling of energy. There was no party in Seattle this time -- though a gathering in Olympia was reported to have gathered 1,500. As you can see from the tea parties' organizing site for Washington, the sponsor of that "party" was an outfit calling itself "PatriotMarch"
-- and if you go there, you can quickly ascertain that this is an essentially Bircherite group of conspiracists too. (Quick shower recommended afterward.)
It happened elsewhere as well. In Duval County, Florida, there were signs comparing Obama to Hitler.
The next step in the devolution process of right-wing populists -- just as we saw with the Minutemen -- involves acting out by renegade violent and unstable actors. That's the really ugly part. And as you can see, the Tea Parties are getting there, bit by bit.
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to appease the racists and proto-nazis.
They are well past their formation years, these are post-nazis. Even worse, they mutated into a weird American fascism from hell....
Love that "Oath Keeper" nazi looking guy with the black guy holding the umbrella over his head. Geez.........irony is SO not dead.
You caught that too huh :-) That guy was scary.
fact.
Let them show the world how batshit crazy these morans really are.
and all the GOP politicians and conservative pundts who supported the Tea Parties as racists and conspiracy theorists. This is the movement they supported. People should be asking Boehner and Gingrich whether they believe Obama = Hitler and whether they believe that the government is building concentration camps.
Beck, Hannity, Inhofe and Bachmann are already on board with the ultra extremist position. Just play clips of their more outrageous statements and follow with clips from the most racist or conspiracy minded tea party leaders.
let's expose to the world what they all really are.
Ya know, I'm sure the term "moran" will soon be listed in some dictionary of contemporary words (obviously as a derisive term for idiots), thanks to that one dumbass who couldn't spell. Think about how often we use the term; we all know what/who is being referenced.
I wonder if he knows how much pleasure he has given us progressives via his ignorance.
I thought that was photo-shopped anyway.
If it is real, HA!
Then I bet he may have some idea.
Unless, he's a complete idjit who is a computer illiterate moran.
-to organize crazies. Cat Herding is a breeze in comparison. Getting the *wing)nut-cases to work together is like getting a troop of insane monkeys on drugs to -well- to do anything other than jump up & down, shriek, gibber, throw feces and sticks at everyone, and maul anyone who gets too close.
And I think they even know it.
all the attendees turned off their TV's when they left home, and that seriously undercut FOXes audience numbers. You can't be two places at once.
If they hooked up the trailer and pulled it behind their pickup truck, they could be at the party and watch the tv from the comfort of the couch with a can of "I can't believe it's beer" in their hot little hands.
"Oh, let my teabags wave".
I did want to see pics of the lady with 50 teabags hanging from her hat. Earl Gray flavor.
I have an extremely right wing dope growing asshole buddy who will literally tape three stations at a time to view later, CNN, Fox News, and CNBC so the idjits can see if they were on TV.
This is so hilarious. They can't finish what they started either. They knew that the people coming to the gathering were "their" type of conservatives. They knew it was going to be the KKK, the minutemen, the hard right that want to deny their neighbors anything that might look like a helping hand up. Can't afford their trailer park team the chance to get close enough to them to touch. No no.
You have to wonder if the tea party thing was a response to the DHS report about the extremists. You know the gop can't tell the participants that they are being tagged and marked as extremists, but you do get the impression that they are willing to set these folks up for the government anyway. Perhaps the gop is more scared of it's supporters than it's enemies?
When Bush and Gen.
Elmer FuddMichael Hayden were busy crossing out the parts of the 4th Amendment that got in the way of their 'War on Terror'?When Bush and
TorquemadaAlberto Gonzales were tap-dancing their way around FISA?Yeah, that's right. They were busy CHEERLEADING. It's only when *gasp* a black man ("He said, 'The sheriff's getting nearer!'") that these racist wackaloons get all in a dither.
where da white women?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJkHykGRXrw
"where da white women at?
Fixed it for ya.
Kinda like the wannabe "anarchists" who show up at anti-war demonstrations.
I believe populism is really a lefty idea.
Right wing populism = lynch mob
The only time these rugged individualists group up is to hurt someone!
Populism, at its core, is a movement that distinguishes the 'common folk' from the 'elite.' (And the GOP likes to push the liberal=elitist meme whenever it can.)
Populism can find expression on both sides of the conservative/liberal divide.
As far as right wing populism = lynch mob, that's a lot closer to the mark.
Argumentum ad populum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2GsJkmv9l4
Sotomayor is the sixth catholic on the supreme court.
Newt Gingrich is a slimy little weasel but he just turned catholic.
Now when Roe vs Wade is negated by the Pope's orders there will be singing and dancing and cheering in all of the clueless.
But when Obama converts and the clueless finally catch on,
it isn't going to be just the snake handlers and holy rollers who go ballistic.
You going to see Mormons and Baptists and Seventh Day Adventist make a recap of the
reformation look like a joke.
If I were catholic, I would move to Paraguay and change my name to Bush or Cheney.
I've been lightly dropping this on some of the duller right wing blogs. Haven't hit powder yet but I will.
I really want to see the current supreme court "justices" decorating lamp posts.
I saw coverage of the parties at least twice on CNN this weekend. A local TV station in West Palm Beach did a little coverage of the one down there and the local anchor said she hope they cleared out before the 4th of July celebrations began.
Pretty soon they will be nothing more than a frightening sideshow. I think the next one is supposed to be Sept 12.
"Patriot Day"???
They place their party dates around dates that are talked about a lot already, that's the only way they can get attention. First it was tax day, then 4th of July and now the day after 9-11.
In Foxboro or on the road? Oh, that's so pre 9/11 thinking on my part.
The only playing that's getting done is they are getting played by the republicans who support this stuff.
these get togethers "Tea Parties"? It makes them sound like a bunch of little 5-year-old girls in pinafores with their dollies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JchKa8Ox3Hs
THAT'S a right wing tea party.
Here's the reason.
In this TV era there are no "iconic" lithographers to record the moment for posterity. Guess we'll have to wait for the silkscreened Tea Party t-shirts.
nor stupid.
I just point out the assinine belief that they are doing something of historical note. I still say the term brings up Miss Polly Prissy Pants.
Funny how Glenn Beck went on vacation just before this last tea party.
All the big names seemed to pick this time to be on vacation. Can you imagine the steam coming out of Chris Matthews ears when Sarah made her speech and he wasn't in town to comment on it?
Am I the only one to notice that these tea parties seem to represent only one race of Americans? And that, based on the speakers, they seem to be comprised of the, shall we say, less literate segment of our population?
When Sen. Cornyn got booed off the stage in Texas this weekend, all I could think was "Be careful what you wish for..."
PEACE
i can't recall but i believe something is brewing for the tea baggers in d.c. this september. the kryptonite is to continue to remind them of the BUSH legacy reality. they can't stand talking about the BUSH legacy it's very painful and REAL. the (r) is trying very hard to form some type of identity. that has been very difficult with sanford, Ensign(who i believe they are trying to protect) and palin.
Was this a protest or a BarBQ? I went to a 4th of July party that had more people then this tea bagger event. We also made more noise and got more accomplished then these idiots too.
If you were able to light and twirl around a sparkler for a few seconds you accomplished more than they did.
I love how these people make it very clear how patriotic they are by telling you, and labeling themselves so.
Why, it's as if their actions somehow didn't seem to convey this patriotism or something.
... loud proclamation of their Christian faith and that this is a CHRISTIAN nation, founded on CHRISTIAN ideals, and all our founding fathers were CHRISTIANS, and all our laws are inspired by the BIBLE, and there would be no morality without GOD ...
Next teabbaggin' event in my city...I'm gonna make up a few hundred of those patriot "tricorn" hats like Paul Revere wore...out of tin-foil. At five bucks a pop, I bet I could make a killing. Best of all would be seeing all those tin-foil "patriots" on CNN.
Feel free to steal my idea and make some easy money in YOUR town.
on your noggin.
very hard for the guvument to listen in on your brain waves.
According to a news report I saw on a CBS local news show about a fortnight ago, there's research into brain scanning to be used by stores so they can determine what sort of items you may be in the mood to buy.
give away popcorn and have someone yell "Fire" every hour.
... Metallica and let them scan THAT.
some good Zappa!
shoe salesmen bearing brown brogans.
They can save their money by just watching what department I go to.
if they pay particularly close attention to you.
"..you may be in the mood to buy.
Uh-oh; does that mean I'm gonna start buying porn mags?
How do you wear your beer helmet with the two can holders and the big straw without crushing your tin-foil hat?
sacrifices and casualties.
I guess, but must the most prized treasures go first? What good is a protest without a beer helmet filled with cheap hot beer. A man needs some pleasures at a time like that.
... of a teabag party type wearing one of those hats, it's internet gold.
I would like to have martini parties. There would be no protest or silly signs, just a few elite democrats getting together and chatting about things. Oh, and no silly outfits either.
My tickets to the Staples Center are online. I'm heading straight to E-bay and then to buy gold from the guys Glenn Beck promotes.
Call up Gordon Liddy. Sure he has a creepy past but you can trust him when he says you should buy gold from the company he represents.
from the molten gold in my bare hands?
Probably but it's only skin right? I mean it'll probably grow back one day.
he will even burn his hand over a candle to prove it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUUq5mRCimo
As 'Tea Parties' lose steam...
They become Iced Tea Parties:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSvD5SM_uI4
the 4th of July Teabagging was even bigger than the last one. Complete with "Birthers" and bigots and Dr. Larry Hunter: "a senior fellow with Americans for Prosperity Foundation, which is sponsoring the nationwide online Patients First "Hands Off Our Health Care" petition..."
And all the crazies were lining up to demand that they don't get any health care. The petition will be sent to Blanche and Mark. The crazy thing is most of these people looked like they get medicare and the rest probably have no insurance. But by God! They'd rather have none than have to accept it from the evil terrible government.
As Republicanism continues to slip in to the Third Reigh, that's a good thing. Though of course eventually if these Republicans keep it up, the United States will have basically a one-Party system. On the other hand Corporate fascism controls all political Parties so the end result is null.
Well the republicans should tip their hat to Fox News. They have whipped their base into a anti-gov't, anti politician movement. They are even booing Republicans at the rallies.
All that is left (right?) is to turn on themselves, and they have...
It is interesting to watch. Smart republicans would do well to stay away from Fox. Their message is falling on deaf ears save a few, imho.
Fox is now a fringe network that represents few. Yes they have a big audience but I look at them as Jerry Springer News. Many watching do so for the sheer disbelief. Kinda like being an atheist and watching Jim and Tammy Baker...they were a hoot!
We could post cuts on youtube. Also, Jimmy Swaggart apologizing for the whore would make a great youtube.
the Green Day posts.
Benson holding the Umbrella.
very few ppl r showing for these teabagging rallies...the steam is going out...now if sarah palin was to be the featured speaker...well then many thousand would probably show up and watch the lipstick pit bull put on her cute little tough talking short skirt milf show...big deal. did u hear the crowd in LA? 20 ppl maybe....i think the only reason this movement - as weak as it is - gets any play is due to the possibility one of these teabaggers may snap and use their god/gun values to go postal and do violence...and that could happen/has happened but i say let it fizzle out...
They had tea-bagger morons at both of our small town parades over the last two weekends. These are pretty conservative areas for Michigan. Yet, I didn't see hardly anyone take their pamphlets, and only one guy took their signatures clipboard.
He looked at it for about 5 seconds, and then gave it back to them without signing. I didn't see them get one signature at either parade. I was actually astonished.
The were collecting signatures to oppose a small $50 tax increase, in order to keep the schools open and not lose police or EMT's. The money would also help the unemployed find work under the stimulus.
In Michigan, with 20% unemployment, and our local Pontiac dealership going out of business last Tuesday, people are not so eager to jump at those $50 GOP tax scare scenario's anymore.
I think the thing that really sunk them however, was a big hand made sign on a truck that said "Socialized medicine is really sick!" In a county that now has staggering numbers of unemployed workers with families who have NO insurance, nor can they afford to get any, I don't think this was a smart move.
But being tea-baggers, they don't have much in the way of brains anyhow! In fact, despite their lack of success and the cold reception they got from most people, these idiots were as pleased as punch with themselves - and seemed as enthusiastic as those screaming throngs in the old Hitler Nazi moivies. The women were the creepiest ones. And there were as many women as men. I wonder if that psycho nutjob in Arizona has family in Michigan?
I saw ONE truck driving down the road, towing an oversize trailer, that had a sign on the trailer..."Florida Keys Republican Club" the driver was some old guy...drivin in the FAST LANE goin 30 MPH!!!
As I passed this relic, I honked, gave him the finger, and got in front of him and drove slow...not for somethin as base as revenge for goin slow in the fast lane...no...I drove slow so he could see my Obama/Biden and Proud Liberal stickers...
Ohmigosh...you shoulda seen him and his battle-axe of a wife flailin about in the cab...
I about ran off the road I was laughin so hard.
And that was the beginning of a great weekend.
:)
Me likey:)
due to a speed trap near Alpine in the heart of Big Bend country (read uninhabited West Texas) I can tell you that LnM is advocating road rage inducement. It is nearly as bad as the helmet with two beer cans on top in terms of traffic deaths.
There, I've been a good citizen today.
That was hilarious! I hope you enjoyed your 4th.
if its not a nut its a fruit or a flake.
Got shouted down at one of them Saturday
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/06/gop-se...
These folks seem to be off their meds.
I was waiting for the line about "precious bodily fluids", never came up though.
I couldn't help noticing they salute the STAGE while the FLAG they profess to love flys IN BACK OF THEM.
They salute the "leader" (spaaker) rather than the FLAG.
Funny as hell.
The news story this blog refers to in The Olympian was part of the "In Brief" section, right above a warning for a sexual predator.
In April, the rally was reported on the front page. Below the fold, but the picture was above. The big news in The Olympian for July 5 was about building height-restrictions for the waterfront. (That is the big issue right now on most Olympian's minds. Go to http://olyblog.net/node for more info.)
Our local daily is a corporate shill, so this report goes part & parcel w/ what was blogged above: the media is losing interest.
We could understand what it is you're talking about. I just wasted my time searching the first 5 pages and gave up. You can get a link from an INDIVIDUAL story, or better yet, post it here if you want to SHARE it.
Our local event hosted prolific author and publisher, inspirational speaker and Joe the Dork ghost writer Thomas Tabback. I was unable to attend but I heard it went well.
http://www.quincynews.org/local-news/quincyte...
The Tea Party people are ALL OVER THE PLACE with multitude issues.
Just like the LEFT WINGERS who are ALL OVER THE PLACE at rallys from our side.
We are truly a sad sack bunch of people. Americans all.
We have got to stop back biting each other.
It's a common enemy we share.
The people of the left, mean well... but there are so many issues with our society and injustices which is hard to pick just a few, ergo the unorganized nature due to the amount of issues to cover.
The people on the right is the opposite, they have so many issues/people to hate that it is hard for them to pick just one.
Lack of organization from both sizes does not mean moral (or generally qualitative) equivalence by a looooooong shot.
It is like claiming the school nerds, who have trouble deciding which subject they like best.... are some how the same from a moral standpoint to the school bullies who also have trouble deciding.... which weakling is their favourite punching bag. Sure both contingents may display a certain lack of decisiveness towards their "preferences." But it is the diverging nature of their preferences that would make any attempt to equate the morality of both an exercise if intellectual dishonesty.
...is losing steam!
The U.S. govt is also...almost out of steam.
the economy...is out of steam.
and balldraggin' teabaggers will only continue to multiply. because "our govt" and the (banks and corporations that run it) ...will continue to fuck us. do what they want to and remain unaccountable
and johnny come lately assholes like Glenn Beck (co-intelpro) will continue to "join our ranks" and try to make the "movement" look bad.
Teabaggers come in all shapes and sizes.
plenty of liberal teabaggers...join us! (and quit funding) the American military empire and the banks.... all you need is a pair (let em hang) and start walking...
"Constitution is based on Biblical law," says a speaker in Florida. Where in the Old or New Testament does it say, "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed?" He says the basis of civil law is a covenant to not compete in business. This statement only makes sense if he is talking about the government not competing with companies. In Jesus' time there were no corporations.
The two, possibly out of uniform, guys talk about the orders they will not obey. The orders they refuse to obey were issued by George W Bush. Bush was in office when Katrina hit. Were they protesting during the Bush administration? Why are they protesting against orders the Obama administration has never proposed, let alone issued.
I can't believe i used to try to be civil with you people.
It's very clear that some of you possess nearly all of the qualities that you profess to hate. To make blanket statements about an entire group of people who participated at an event that you didn't even attend is kinda silly. To say that ALL republicans are morons, and ALL liberals are shining examples of intellectual morality is a bit of a knee-slaper. I'm not fan of NeoCon Republicans, but if the liberals are to be an opposition party, they might want to temper some of their 'emotionally-dominated' brand of rationale.
For example, the Health Care Issue. A lot of Republicans simply dont want the Government involved in their health care to a larger degree than they already are.. I see people on this thread that claim, that their opposition to Universal Health Care, is because they are stupid backwards hicks who don't want the help of a smart doctor, and that's really not the case across the board. It comes down to this: every individual ought to be free to make the decisions that effect their own personal life. That includes the option to not participate in mandatory health insurance.
If this concept is hard to grasp, chances are we disagree politically, but it doesn't make either of us 'stupid' or 'wrong'. Divided we fall.
As someone who lives in a country that actually has universal healthcare, there is no such thing as MANDATORY health insurance.
You're AUTOMATICALLY covered for basic services. If you want private insurance, you can purchase it, just like in the U.S., so you're certainly not FORCED into anything.
I can assure you that the public healthcare that I receive is actually BETTER than the private insurance that I paid $12,000 a year for in the States (NOT INCLUDING copays and non-covered services, and if you don't think $12,000+ a year for private insurance isn't a HUGE tax, you're out of your mind). AND I encountered all kinds of red tape that I don't deal with here. It, in a nutshell, sucked. Even on my $200,000 salary.
Here, I also don't have to worry about whether my company opted for the cheap plan or not. I get quality coverage in whatever job I want to take, or even if I work for myself, as I am now.
I pay more in taxes, but it's a better place to live because of it. People aren't losing their homes because they can't pay their medical bills. People aren't stressed about losing their jobs and losing coverage. People are covered. ALL people.
"There is no such thing as mandatory health insurance."
well, atleast not yet anyways..
from: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31782553/ns/polit...
"Both those Americans who can’t afford to buy health insurance and those who have decided to get by without it will face the same order from congressional Democrats as they prepare legislation to overhaul health care: buy health insurance. And if they can’t afford the coverage, taxpayers will help them pay for it."
"The Senate health committee’s draft bill would require all legal residents of the United States to have insurance and would penalize people who did not obtain insurance, except those with incomes below about $16,250. The House Democrats’ bill has a similar provision."\
So, uh, not mandatory eh? You were saying??
For example, fighting tooth and nail for the "privilege" of paying over two times as much as the next country for health care that is ranked at the bottom 5 of the top 40 industrialized countries in the world, it is how do you say it... idiotic.
Alas, it is funny to see "you people" to claim to be the defenders of free speech after 8 years of "free speech zones." You know.... "you people" were conspicuously silent then...
The rich asshole republicans will still be free to purchase their insurance from their own shitty HMO's, they just won't be able to peddle them on us anymore.
Sorry pal, but their is no moral equivalency here. GOPer's over the last several decades have proven that they will let children and anybody else who gets in the way of their profits or bonuses die!
The kill innocent children in 3rd world countries for profit, they think they are above the law, and they have no compunction what so ever about screwing over the American people for their own benefit.
The hypocricy of their entire belief system is neauseating from the rancid stentch it emits, and they spend billions on propaganda so they can get out of paying taxes that benefit society.
Liberals try to help people, especially the less well off.
Don't try to paint us as being the same. What do people like you do for fun? Go to courthouses and tell victims of crime that they are as bad as their perpetraitors for talking badly about them?
The morally equivalent republicans you are talking about should be stoned in the streets when they go out in public for what they have done to this country. If there was any justice they would.
Liberals are just as bad as repukes MY ASS!
BUT... they are here. We also must protect their right to gripe peacefully. But from an intellectual standpoint, it is like having a village idiot convention who wrap themselves in your teams flag... very humiliating.
holding his umbrella.
By the way, who's threatened to do all this stuff, arrest people without warrants and take their guns?
The only one of his points that had any relevance was the government incarcerating citizens without a trial and just a military tribunal, BUT THAT WAS BUSH. Obama wants to give them a trial.
I think that's the idea, noone's threatend anyone with that stuff. Well, except for Bush, that is. And I seriously doubt they would've had an issue doing any of that stuff against critics of the Iraq War during Dubya's Reign of Terror.
I especially like this one -
Wonder if the name Jose Padilla means anything to those people?
Bush was doing that for years, and you were UNPATRIOTIC for saying "boo" about it.
Now that a Democrat is president, they're scared shitless?
He was kept in solitary confinement for 3-4 years and driven insane before he was put on trial.
He was a mental midget who couldnt make a dirty bomb if his life depended on it and he had nothing to do with 9/11.
He was a patsy, 9/11 was an inside job and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and Pakistan are bogus.
The U.S. govt is five hundred times more dangerous to world stability than al-qaida is...
Not only do they get most of their facts wrong, the FEW they get right are not complaints that should be directed at Obama, but G. Dubya Bush.
Who was responsible for the Katrina debacle?
Shredding the constitution.... last time I check, it was Bush and his cronies that did most of the damage.
Gun seizures in Katrina? That was George Bush's Blackwater team.
These people are truly morons.... or 'Morans' as they like to spell it.
They should not be allowed to breed. They are some of the worst examples of humanity.
He said Barack didn't attend (enough) church services. Well the asshole that previously lived in the White House went to church a lot...and he destroyed our country.
So you, sir, put a lid on it!
I thought the Oath Keepers spokesperson was not so far off the wall or the mark. Having an African-American man hold his umbrella was disturbing for some reason.
Has anyone ever considered the fact that some people don't want to be 'treated' by the 'health care' system? A system based on allopathy is frickin retarded, and i'd rather use preventative homeopathic methods than have to worry about what drug the FDA is trying to slowly poison me with, for my own good. The pharmaceutical industry is killing people like it was the damn M-I-C, and here we are wanting to give them more money. its fucking retarded, and the government needs to get the hell out of health care, and stay out. Personal Responsibility is the name of the game, and until we have that re-instated, we cannot have true freedom.
And i do believe that the use of a Universal Health Care System would not be mandatory, but the funding of it most certainly would be, hence the use of the word mandatory. I believe the best method involves cutting government ran HMO's and insurance companies out of the business of 'health care' entirely... Too many middle-men between me and the doctor means more money involved, less options, shittier service, and less accountability.. What ever happened to the notion that only people who use the service should have to pay for it? Oh i forgot, Karl Marx will fix everything...
to describe this video, but I will try. I could only get about a 4 minutes into it when I had to stop--that ding dong standing on the stage talking about "we will not obey orders to conduct warrantless searches", etc. etc. (Funny, they would've done it under Bush...)
Clearly I thought I had seen paranoia! I was wrong. I joined C&L after seeing the pure unadulterated bullshit in this video. I hope I can help in the fight against these silly, petrified, although dangerouos buffoons.
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