Nein dummkopf!

Politicians engaging in criminal acts crimiinilizes politics.

You know haw it works. The republicans will systematically accuse the government of every they and the bush administration committed. It's like a confession really - take notes. Today it was the republican criminalization of politics on display.

Cry babies.

Yes, politics has been criminalized. By criminals, most of whom are Republican.

I don't think being conservative in and of itself should be a punishable offensive (maybe psychiatric therapy should be required before claiming you're a conservative but not jail time).

The thing that most people are missing is that the Bush admin were not conservatives. They were hard line neoconservatives. They were hard line ideologues. People don't understand --- or they do but would rather demagogue the situation --- is that crimes should be punished; especially, when those crimes led the deaths of prisoners due to the thoughtlessness of the administrators who passed down policy directly linked to the deaths.

If the CEO of a company wrote corporate policy that directly endangered people and even cause harm to those people in the name of corporate protection then that CEO would be keel-hauled and punished for his/her crimes. Why not punish the worst president and his surrounding yes men for crimes if they committed them???

Bush supporters need to answer that question.

Evading responsibility is their prime directive.

There is, of course, no criminalization of Conservatism. Rather, Conservatism itself, is but ideological window dressing designed to legitimate criminal, and anti-social pathology.

Here in Texas, colleges have Islamic students who insist it's their religious right to keep their faces covered,

And conservative students who insist they have a right to carry a concealed handgun.

Sounds like it'll get interesting

And loud.

Democrats have yet to learn the lesson that when a Republican hits you, DON'T turn the other cheek- rather face them down and knock them on their ass....

Funny how Republicans thought impeaching Pres Clinton over a blowjob was okay, but NOTHING commited by any of Bush's people warrants any kind of hearing or criminal investigations..

of his many dutiful acolytes. They learned their lessons well.

our bankers were admired and respected and now are considered corrupt criminals.

Whats 'criminal' about chaining someone to a wall, smothering them with a sandbag, beating them to death, packing their body in ice with a fake IV, and shipping them off in an 'ambulance' ... ? Jeez .... !

from the Daily Dish...

"The Democrats had long labeled the impeachment debate a distraction from the urgent business of a great nation. But the Republicans argued that the pursuit of justice is the business of a great nation. In winning this point, they caught the falling flag, producing a triumph for the rule of law, a reassertion of the belief that no man is above it, and a rebuke for an arrogance that had grown imperial," - Peggy Noonan, December 21. 1998.

"It’s hard for me to look at a great nation issuing these documents and sending them out to the world and thinking, ‘Oh, much good will come of that.’ Sometimes in life you want to keep walking… Some of life has to be mysterious." - Peggy Noonan, April 19, 2009.

Remember also that the issue with Clinton was perjury in a civil suit. That required impeachment. But war crimes?

I won't hold my breath but wouldn't it be great if this was thrown in her face on Sunday? I like to see them spin.

If you follow the Fox Doctrines of Republican Non-Responsibility, then:
1) You can't prosecute the interrogators, they were just following orders.
2) You can't prosecute the ones who gave the orders, they were told it was legal.
3) You can't prosecute the ones who said it was legal, they were just giving advice.

The reason you won't see Congressional leaders of either party jumping on board is that they will likely go down in this as well. How much did they know and what did they sign off on. I think that this is one reason Pelosi ruled out impeachment, it would have taken down just as many Dems as Repugs in the Congress in the whole investigations. I am still wondering how Harman hasn't resigned yet with the revelation of the stunt she pulled with AIPAC.

Hardly anyone discusses anything on C&L anymore, sadly.

98% of the comments seems to be from dittoheads repeating talking points from the last 8 years in opposition and stereotyping people after political leanings, and lolling some after mentioning a bad joke we have all heard before, ususally based in the same stereotyping and demonizing of the opposition.

Since when did so many in here become just like the conservatives/right-wingers they deride?
Why do so few of the regulars of C&L today think outside the box? What happened?

I have one remedy for "progressives" who are intellectually stuck (seems its becoming a trend).
I strongly recommend listening to the Thom Hartmann radio program. WhiteRoseSociety.org have premission to put out archives of recent shows for free, with only one week embargbo.

Blind justice would say all those involved should be punished in some way.

Asides from the ICC, is there another venue in the US for justice? Concerns should be around those organizing the investigation and setting the rules. After all, what official would want to handcuff a position he/she desperately seeks in the future.