Wingnuts Thrash Around for Excuses Even Before Their Epic Fail
By David Neiwert Wednesday Nov 05, 2008 6:30am
Laura Ingraham was repeating what's about to become wingnuts' favorite theme: Republicans lost because they weren't wingnutty enough!
Bill Hemmer: Let me flip that argument around here. If the Republicans are swept out of power -- I mean, the Senate, the House, the White House -- how does the Republican Party change, do you believe?
Ingraham: Well, I think -- I heard Mary Matalin say this last night, and really, she hit it out of the park. If McCain loses, if Republicans lose seats across the board, this is a rejection of Republicans who don't follow traditional conservative principles. It's not a rejection of conservatism, or Reagan, or small government.
... I think Republicans are going to have to do some soul-searching, but not on conservative principles -- on how they governed.
Er, mebbe. But how they governed was precisely according to conservative principles!
The Big Shitpile is a direct product of conservative principles enacted in governance -- namely, the Panglossian belief that deregulation of business, and the financial sector, was an unrelievedly good thing.
Well, the people who are paying the price for that foolishness have managed to figure that out.
[H/t to Dave for the video.]
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Oh what a Good Morning it is!!
We all missed you! Lots of people were asking about you.
Are you talking about me? People were talking about me? Do I want to know what they were saying?
It was a disaster in the Senate!
Only getting 5 seats was well short of what was expected or needed. Mitch the son-of-a-bitch McConnell, will now be hell bent on obstructionism - so they can call the Democrat's do nothings in 2010.
It's all they've got now, and if anything, republican's will find a way to adapt (just like their closest relatives the cockroach) and survive.
Secondly, I have absolutely no idea what the hell Minnesota was thinking!
Almost half a million of them threw their votes away on that semi-retard Dean Barkley (who justs sits there with a stupid expression on his face like "those other kids are mean to me"), and evil shit Coleman wins by 700 votes! WTF! Idiots!
Now, when Mitchy obstructs every progressive piece of legislation proposed to help the other 95% of us American's (thanks to guys like Coleman), you can pat yourself on the backs. Good job!
They can throw Lieberman off the nearest bridge.
...to pull all of this off. If republicans pull this crap too much I'd more than expect to see the charge of the Obstructionist Republicans painted all over the media. I wouldn't expect Obama to sit back while rethugicans hold back his agenda. Look at Obama's margin of victory. Obama has the proverbial mandate that Bush claimed to have had. Obama has the mandate in spades. The republicans will try and wheel-n-deal but they wont be the obstructionist because it will hurt the following goons up for re-election in 2010:
AL -- Richard Shelby R <--- getting old and the environment is his Achilles though he won handily in 2004
AK -- Lisa Murkowski R
AZ -- John McCain R <--- he's done IMHO
FL -- Mel Martinez R <--- he barely won in 2004
GA -- Johnny Isakson R
ID -- Mike Crapo R
IA -- Chuck Grassley R <--- getting old. He'll win if he seeks another term though
KS -- Sam Brownback R <--- He'll have a fight, remember the Ks school board?
KY -- Jim Bunning R <--- Barely won in 2004. He wasn't a newcomer at the time either.
LA -- David Vitter R <--- Get the right Dem and he'll have a real fight
MO -- Kit Bond R
NH -- Judd Gregg R <--- one of the last two NE republicans
NC -- Richard Burr R
OH -- George Voinovich R <--- he'll be 74; ready to retire???
OK -- Tom Coburn R <--- he'll stall some measures and be painted as not good for the country.
PA -- Arlen Spector R <--- he'll be 80 in 2010 and his seat has been on shaky among republicans since 2004.
SC -- Jim DeMint R
SD -- John Thune R
UT -- Robert Bennett R
So, the republicans are on a downward spiral. They need to revamp themselves or lose more seats. If they stop the change Obama has promised them they will be seen as agents of stagnation and be booted IMO. We will see small fights; however, the ides of March will be for the obstructionists. We saw this after 9/11 right???
the Republicans marginalize their extremists, the better.
We missed you last night.
BTW, I cracked that bottle of 30 year old single malt scotch. It tasted especially schweeet!
Was the scotch as great as the evening?
get on board the train or get off the track.
We have an alibi! It was some other conservative group.
Someone queue up the Bush soundbite, "This is the Responsibility Era, where we have to be responsible for what we do and say."
And, Laura, I know they're big words, but try and fit your brain around them: intellectual dishonesty.
The conservatives weren't conservative enough so the people voted for the liberal guy???
Somehow, it's logical to them.
Remember that bailout thing? McCain "cancelled his campaign" and rushed to DC to push the bailout and save our country, all mavericky-like. The Republicans harpooned it (for better or worse), and spent the next day telling the media that the Democrats sank it with Pelosi's speech?! The political equivalent of "Mommy, she was mean to me, so I'm not going to play with her *pout*". So...the Democrats, who voted FOR the bailout, caused its failure, while the Republicans, who voted AGAINST the bailout....supported it? Figuring that one out is as tricky as interpreting one of Palin's responses to a question that did not include "oil", "snow machines" or "special needs children".
Alot of conservatives, including myself didn't end up voting, or voted 3rd party. I voted for Bush in 2000, and vowed never to do it again in 2004, or for a 3rd time in 2008.
Alot of people I know were happy to see Obama win, and I know afew conservatives who voted for him. They voted for him because of the war issue and the fact our name has been dragged through the mud overseas. Also, because of their sheer disgust at the direction the GOP has gone the last 8 years, and the disgusting manner McCain ran his campaign.
McCain may be more conservative than Obama, but he's not better for America. I wish Obama well, and I hope he can turn things around, and I pray that in 4-8 years, a principled conservative who actually campaigns on the issues (rather than calling the other guy a terrorist) will be nominated.
Almost every country celebrated with America after the Victory of Obama over the Ignorance and Intolerance that had ridden unabated through our Nation and the World. These are some reactions from the World Press as Translated by Watching America.
The World is breathing easier as you can see from the lead story showing a picture of Bush going through a Shredder.
I can now wear my American T=shirts proudly (my Canadian and Italian shirts are in rags.)
Thanks you fellow Americans!!!
I just wish we could've picked up 60 seats in the senate. Although reid and liebermann are meeting today to discuss his future, it looks like we're going to have to continue dealing with this quisling.
At least until Connecticut wakes up and votes his puckered ass out.
Well no wonder, if your t-shirts were made in America.
Your welcome. Believe me, it was the least we could do. How's the mood where your at?
One of the most heartening things I saw on TV this morning was footage of people celebrating Obama's victory all over the world. Sorry about the last eight years, y'all - we're back!
I think Laura Ingram's arrogant analysis sums up the last dying gasps of the far Right. She was wrong, wrong , wrong, and was so, so confident. People that put on such a confidence act have deep, underlying problems IMO. She'll become even more rabid now and hopefully operate in the extreme margins.
Yes the death throws of these wing nuts as they fade to irrelevance will be loud and screeching, but sweet to observe!
last night...when we switch to fox, we call it, "watching the enemy", and they were all flabbergasted, yet desperately trying to put a negative spin to Obama's MASSIVE victory....
It was refreshing, to see those fascist propagandist fucks trying to talk through their utter failure.
Judging by them having so many blond bimbo anchors I would think it be udder failure.
Add Christopher Hitchens to the shitpile. He appeared on Australian TV (ABC) his usual cynically disturbed self. Already dissing Barack by basically not having any faith in him, even though he voted for him and his daughter worked for him. As someone with medical experience, I think there is something malignant growing inside of him. I recognise the behaviour. You can alsmost smell it.
He is a mediocre author at best, an alcoholic blowhard whose only redeeming quality is that he still speaks with an English accent.
Him and Andrew Sullivan are two turds who couldn't hack it in their original homeland and are living off rents from their accents, for some reason Americans are suckers for British accents.
"a drink-soaked popinjay". So appropriate. I'll never forget it.
If the party of R's is going to exist they need to change big time. It was the intolerance, intemperance and bigotry that ruined them.
Their only hope is to shed the Ubber Right Evangelicals that fed the hate machine.
The only reason McCain was seen as a viable candidate was his appeal as a moderate. He was viewed favorably by independents and by centrists from both major parties. I'm not sure what genius came up with the idea that McCain would win by dressing up in conservative fundamentalist clothes, but I hope he/she continues advising the GOP for the next few elections.
Anyone who thinks the Right will fold up their tents and go home (or away) is sadly mistaken. If anything, the big win last night is going to make them even more hardened in their delusions.
For example, see:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1225843866275...
We must stay as vigilant as we have been for the last 2 years.
By inference, they are comparing Bush to HST...there's a stretch all the way to the Land of Oz. This was the, "you're with us (no matter what we do or say), or you're against us" president. How is that reaching out across the aisle? WSJ...that article is pure BS.
Retained her seat in Minnestoa. There are still plenty of nuts and minions. They are already attempting to delegitimize the sweep.
Progressive Blogs and their legions of commenters need to stay vigilant!But that very fact will help to keep the nuts at bay.
Again with the Reagan limerence? Effing ponderous.
"No money for the utopian vision?"
But yes, there's money for the bailout of the bankers...
"Sarah Palin as the standard bearer..."
Riiiight...
Oh "She has a vision that connects with 'Joe the Plummer' people"
Ahhh ok...
Maybe the RAPTURE will happen and we won't have to deal with her and her "Joes" anymore...
Let's now watch and listen as the asswipes argue about the meaning of "mandate." Novak is already saying Barack did NOT get a mandate.
Kim?
No thanks, I'm straight.
Bush did? More people voted for GORE in 2000, yet Bush cavalierly acted as if he had won by a landslide. He LOST the popular election. The righty Supremes gave him the White House in 2000, like Daddy and Babs gave him everything else. Wonder how Sandra Day O'Connor feels about her vote that helped give us the past eight years. As for 2004, RFK Jr. said even those results are suspect. Obama will be able to replace some of the retiring Supremes with more liberal or even centrist judges who will better interpret the Constitution than the current group.
Ted Stevens!
What's going through someone's mind to re-elect a CONVICTED FELON????
I think the combination has put something in the water and air up there in 'lasker.
It just proves that reichwing republicans don't have a mind. It's easier for them that way. If they had one, they might have to use it to question the basic hypocricy and bullshit that defines the GOP.
And every real merikuhn' knows, thinkin's is leetist'.
He is THEIR crook!
Oh yeah... that and SHE'S IRRELEVANT NOW...
just like YOU, Laura...
Ingragm and her ilk are a dying species. Let these wing-nuts beleive this bullshit. They will be the way of the Whigs. Poetic Justice is indeed sweet.
Does this mean we can stop hiding our joints now?
so where will they go? they are certainly not going to merge with the obama centrist coalition of moderate repubs and dems. They will continue to become the party of the right wing populist extreme, thereby ensuring their demise.
Back in 2004, the Rightwingers all claimed Bush's popular vote margin of about 3.6 million votes was a mandate.
I guess that makes Obama's win a "super-mandate".
Sean Hannity & Rush Limbaugh have been put on Suicide watch.
No one is watching too closely.
Zing!
If either one of them calls a suicide hotline, I hope they get put on hold.
?
I'd commit suicide if I had to watch them.
the suicide help line is not outsourced to Afghanistan. No telling what will happen then.
Was quite funny to hear actually! Hahaha!!!
Quote:
(On Sarah Palin) I don;t think she has the intelectual chops for the future, I think what she has don in the final weeks after the Katie Couric unfortunate interview and so forth, is she's really shown that she has a vision that connects with, you know, Joe the Plummer people, and also smart people, not just muddleclass blue colour people.
In other words (let me kick in an open door) Joe the Plummer did not stand in line to God when brains were handed out to people. Hahaha!!!!
Little green footballs is off-line, I think. They can't handle the
trafficanger.If either one of them calls a suicide hotline, I hope they get put on hold!
And whilst the suicidial repugs wait, may this be the hold music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_P-v1BVQn8
And for the same reasons: to sucker the rank-and-file while fellating Big Business. Not 'conservative' enough? Not 'conservative' at all...
Wasn't it the last non-insane republican president (Eisenhower), who warned us about the Bush family (Prescott) and what is today's neocon GOP?
And one of Ike's biggest failings was that he didn't arrest Nazi collaborators like Bush and Henry Ford and Charles Lindberg and ship them off to Nuremberg when the war ended.
The Fox Newies and the gun nutters refuse to quit fighting the Civil War. Its never been Red Vs. Blue, its always been the blue and the gray.
Let The Healing Begin.
Ok
You're a heel.
This morning I feel like I just got well after being sick for a long long time.
Me too, Patricia.
Seriously, life just feels different today and I love the feeling.
in about an hour to Walnut Creek to celebrate with my wife tonight.
Have a wonderful time and celebrate like crazy!
is chilled and ready.
:)
We live in Vegas, but about 6 weeks ago she had to take a job requiring her to relocate to Walnut Creek. I am heartsick without her. Tonight will be, well...
;)
Fox News is hilarious this morning. They're finding every podunk race where a Republican won, barely mentioning Obama's landslide victory.
Hey look! Republican Joe the Dogcatcher was re-elected dogcatcher in Bumfuck, Nebraska!
If mcgramps won would it be a mudslide victory?
One of the most eloquent statements I heard last night was made by a local TV reporter on the ABC affiliate in Chicago. I don't know his name but I think I'll always remember what he said. This is it, as best as I can remember: "In 1963, when Barack Obama was two years old, Dr. Martin Luther King said that he had a dream that one day his children 'would live in a country where a man is judged not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character.' Tonight, the American people and Mr. Obama have realized that dream."
In contrast, the ugly right on the fox hate network gave us laura ingraham.
I wonder if there' will be any "O"'s left on the WH computer keyboards come Jan. 20th?
Harrrrrrrrrrrrr har. Well said.
In the eyes of the Right (as it was with Trotskyites and communism) conservatism can never fail, it can only BE failed.
Because those Conservative "values" have put the U.S. in the failed position it is in today. Reagan also ran up huge debt and deficits. Plus, this Government we see today is so huge and so obsessed with internal security that it would make Joe Stalin blush with envy.
I would add that the negative campaigns run by the entire Republican network gave Americans a close-up of what's inside the conservative soul. Their cynical outlook and rank hypocrisy was on display for all to see for two solid years.
I have no problem with true Conservatism. There must be a Yin and Yang to ensure balanced representation. The republican party as it exists today is not conservative. Since the advent of the Nixon invasion they have devolved into the party of hate, intolerance and anti-intellectualism - the party of the lowest common denominator. That's why I call them regressives, not conservatives.
I turned on my TV and guess what? No Palin....no McCrazy......no hate campaign ads or low road campaign tactics.........no Joe the loser.......it`s like a dark cloud has been lifted and the sun is shining!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPKpmN1EJ_c&fe...
Fake News should have a going out of business sale for their desks, pens,coffee cups, ect………maybe they can use McCrazy`s advice and sell em on e-bay!
"But how they governed was precisely according to conservative principles!"
Not even remotely conservative actually. Extremist. They(Right wingers) don't get to redefine words that already have precise meanings. They can wear whatever mask they choose, but they were nothing like conservative. -Self-righteous, Invasive, Delusional and Hateful, but not conservative.
I think I'll listen to right wing talk radio today, it should be hilarious. Can't wait to see O'Rielly and Hannity tonight. The whining should be epic
This should be funnier than Stewart and Colbert. I'm still hoping one of them offs himself/herself live...
Question: Who really rejects any government oversight, large or small government? Answer: Republican Conservatives and criminals. Do we see the connection now?
I have been in and out listening to Washington Journal on c-span this morning. Very interesting listening to people who voted for McCain giving their opinion about what happened last night.
All the ugliness and false bullshit The GOP was willing to spread.
Never forget how low they were willing to go.
Never forget the racism at Palin's rallies.
Never forget all the attacks to the Dems. And the ones who died.
Never forget all the hate.
Never- Forget.
They've already started in on Obama. It hasn't even been 24 hrs yet.
Never Forget.
How's that?
I never shall!
hahahahaha she said "small government" when talking about Republicans. You know those very same Republicans who have consistantly INCREASED the size and spending of federal government EVERYTIME they've had the power to do so. Very consistantly!!!
I have been reading comments from active duty and many are looking to re-enlist now. The Republicans were saying that the military wouldn't go for Obama due to his lack of inexperience. Well, it looks like they saw something in Obama that can give any military person hope. Obama's sound judgment and wisdom pretty much ensures that if the military is needed, it will not be thrown away on some phony threat that the White House just made up.
They'll probably do all they can to suppress the information but I'll bet my last dollar that Obama got in the neighborhood of 70% of the military vote. Probably more among vets. Soldiers don't take kindly to being used as mercenaries based on forged documents and manipulated intellegence.
That would be remarkable. I hope we find out.
Tucker Carlson is on msnbc making a total ass of himself. I know, what else is new?
I just bopped over to Mirriam-Webster and under "Tucker Carlson" it does say: 1. Ass.
What with that badass, Tucker Carlson around.
I mean, if he's cranky, watch out!
This is only the beginning of the mandate for all bloggers to start Conservative Watch. Remember throughout the eight years of Clinton, the Neocons hatched their Invasion of Iraq/phoney WMD plan and their plot to put up the puppet Bush, who would be the easy fall guy for all their other evil visions. Don't fall asleep, C&L will be just as busy smoking out any conservative activity, ie the crooks and liars. Rove is probably launching something truly horrible today for 2102 or even before. The wingnuts won't let up and will be worse than ever criticising every move Obama makes.
Remember, he does have a harder job even more than he imagined because of the selfish Wall Street mongers. (That almost felt like it was deliberate.) It's really horrible because of the bailout, those bridges and roads won't get mended, that community centre won't get built and millions will lose homes and jobs around the world. But guess who will get the blame for it-the incumbent.We have to keep getting tougher, even why we reflect on the glory that today, the nice guy came first.
With how they have ruled for many years now how can they even utter the words "small government"? This is absurd.
. . . Led by the field marshal of hate and rage, Sarah Palin.
Insane.
Armed.
Eager to die for Jesus.
Convinced anyone else is Al Qaeda.
The most dangerous faction to enter mainstream politics after the KKK - but with much better weaponry.
If they could just agree on a common name for their God, they'd be all set...
Bob?
...
I thought it was Ed. I remember it clearly from when I was a kid.... "Our Father, who art in Heaven. Hello, Ed be his name."
!
Than shouldn't ya think his name is Art?
http://www.classictvhits.com/shows/wkrp/pics/...
His name is actually Steve.
No, it was Arthur Carlson played by Gordon Jump.
If I'm repeating anything, I apologize, I don't have time to read all these surely great posts before me, brought to you by,... whomever.
The Republicans are in horrible shape. Anyone who has taken PoliSci101 understands the horseshoe spectrum in regards to political ideology. Democracy resides at the crest, and it is super tricky to balance. We have to maintain that balance between left and right. Our parties are guarded by their own self-preservation from going too far left or too far right. If they lean too far, the horseshoe will simply allow them to slide all the way down to either fascism or communism (either/or, not one in the same FFS).
That is in essence what the Rupubs have done. Either they sink further down the right into oblivion (Palin), or they cut the rope (let Palin drown) and try to sailing under a new flag.
My worry is the remaining empowered party attempts to fill in the void which becomes... you know what, never mind, this is a good day.
God Bless America, a land I don't even live in and a god I don't even believe in.
"sewer conservatism"
Nothing good comes out of it. It smells, it's toxic, and you're repulsed when it comes spewing out of a hole.
If you don't take care of the problem, it soaks into the floorboards and the wainscotting, and the smell remains even after you've cleaned up the mess.
And, just like the drunken frat-boy confronted on the day after with the mess he made, patrons of sewer conservatism will deny that they're the ones who are responsible for the mess. The shit isn't theirs.
were tossing bush under the bus
amazing...they supported that pos...but now he wasnt conservative enough
they will nominate jindal in 2012...mark my words
they will say...look, we arent racist, we nominated the self hating indian boy
This is good news. Let them get more wingnutty. Sarah Palin cost them the election with her wingnuttery. McCain was a real threat until he was forced to put that clown on his ticket.
Go wingnuts, go!
Get more wingnutty!
Be Sarah Palin for us, heh heh heh.
LOL, this is great! The right-wingers can't believe the American people have had enough of their pro-war, anti-intellectual creed.
And as for Ingram's comments, I thought free markets (deregulation) and a huge military-industrial complex were conservative principles!
I'M THE FIRST NUT (Ode to Dubya)
(I'm a Nut. Leroy Pullins)
WilliamBanzai7
Sing Along With the Music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqsauoDmgDo
Beedle-dee-bah, beedle-dee-bah, beedle-dee-ree-pa-DUMB.......
[Chorus]
I'm nut, I'm a nut
My Presidential legacy don't amount to much, whoopa-whoopa-whoopa-whoopa
The head on my shoulders is sorta loose
And I ain't got the sense God gave a moose
Lord, I ain't crazy, but ...I'm the First Nut
Is is wetter under in the Potomac, if you're in it when it rains?
Is it shorter to Camp David, than it is by a plane?
Between myself and I, I wonder who's the dumber
Is it hotter down in Crawford, than it is in the summer?
[Chorus]
I drove my Cadillac to Wall Street to satisfy my lust
Wheelin', dealin', left ol' Wall Street on a Greyhound bus
I should'nt have set the markets on fire while I was there
But remember only forest fires prevent Bears
[Chorus]
The poverty war was almost over, until I began to fight
If it took a dime to go 'round the world
I'd cut taxes out of sight
I don't mind to take the Bankers out
If they don't mind to go Dutch
Makes me feel like 700 Billion Bailout Dollars
And I bet the Treasury ain't worth half that much
[Chorus]
Oh, crazy man! I'm a nut!
Oh, Lordy, Lordy Lordy, Lordy
I'm crazy, I'm the First Nut!
I prefer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjVKUap1HgU
I went over to the National Review this morning, (out of curiousity to see what their headlines would be). What a buzz kill! Not one headline that said anything like "Obama Elected President". There was an article by Mary Matalin that was titled "Santa Claus?" with a picture of Obama in Santa's hat above the title. This is from their homepage:
Election Aftermath
THE EDITORS: The public has clearly rejected the Republican party in its present configuration. “Hope Amid the Ruins”
BYRON YORK: Could anything have prevented this defeat? “What Sank McCain” [not one mention of Palin's name in the whole article]
ANDREW C. MCCARTHY: It would be foolish not to feel the ground beneath us shifting. “The Possibilities of President Obama”
MICHAEL NOVAK: Now is not the time to rehearse the grave doubts about Obama. “We Have a New President”
KATHRYN JEAN LOPEZ: Perhaps John Bolton can be the Republican Obama promised in his Cabinet. “Victory Vice” [Is this a joke?]
JOHN DERBYSHIRE: We just have to stick it out. “Eight Wasted Years” [I said the same thing after Bush was annointed by the Supreme Court]
AN NRO SYMPOSIUM: Mark Steyn, Mike Franc, Jonah Goldberg & more assess what went wrong. “How the GOP Got Here”
BILL WHITTLE: The only solace to be found in losing is in losing like a man. “Historic” 11/05 7:45 AM
DAVID FREDDOSO: Good news. Bad news. “Silver Linings, and More Dark Clouds” 11/05 7:45 AM
MARK R. LEVIN: We face a juggernaut. “Winning/Losing ” 11/05 12:08 AM
MARK STEYN: As for us losers, there’s no point going down the right-wing version of Bush Derangement Syndrome. “His Majesty's Loyal Opposition ” 11/04 11:39 AM
LOPEZ: This is an opportunity. “Can I Say Something?” 11/04 10:37 PM
RAMESH PONNURU: I hope he proves to be more moderate than his record indicates. “The Audacity of Hope” 11/04 11:39 PM
CLIFFORD D. MAY: America — even her long-distracted Democrats — will soon find out what “change” means. “The Change You’ll Get” 11/05 12:00 AM
MICHELLE MALKIN: Obama has promised a lot. Now, uh, who gets to deliver? “And the Winner Is . . . Peggy the Moocher” 11/05 12:00 AM
JONAH GOLDBERG: America already redistributes its wealth. A lot of it. “Taxes: A Fair Share for All”
... is blaming every body but themselves?
I'm waiting for the blame to fall on Palin.
She got it wrong, of course, but Laura Ingraham got within spitting distance of what those that call themselves "conservatives" need to do, which is to think long and hard about how to define what conservatism really is.
Those who put George Bush and his henchmen in power managed to convince a large portion of Americans that a narrow agenda of right wing theology, eternal warfare and international monopoly is what defines conservatism. If they can't redefine it, then that definition of conservatism will continue to drag the Republican party down and out of power.
If Republicans can muzzle their worst right wing harpies - Inhoffe, Bachmann, McConnell, Stevens, etc. - then they may gradually convince America that they've reformed themselves into something useful. Personally, I doubt they can do it before 2010. In fact, I think they need another drubbing at the polls before they'll take seriously the illness that has made the Republican party a deadly mockery.
Because if she's so drunk on her own kool-aid that she thinks the road back to Republican power is even harder to the right, she's going to be a loser for a very, very long time.
With the defeat of Crazy Shaysie, the last GOP flunkie in the House from New England has finally been driven out. At least with the House, New England is now 100% blue. It's hard to imagine a more resounding rejection of hard-right "Bible in one hand, Smith & Wesson in the other, hate, hate, hate!" conservatism.
Does Ingraham think it's just quaint or inconvenient that an entire region of the country - comprising both urban and rural, white and minority, white-collar and blue-collar alike - is screaming for progressivism and political moderates?
Even ol' Joe Scarborough had to admit this morning that a party that can't compete in every region of the country can't be a majority party. I can't say that I'm upset at the idea of the GOP never being in the majority again.
I do not accept that the only reason that Democrats won was because of the economy. The standard Republican line is that after the Republican convention McCain jumped ahead of Obama and therefore they would have won if it was not for the stock market decline and Lehman bankrupcy. Sure I believe this helped the Democrats, but the only reason they pulled close to Obama after their convention was because they got a Palin/convention bounce. I believe that after a week or two, once the public found out about the fraud that Palin is, Obama would have been back in the lead. Certainly, without the economic blow-up in September and October it might have been closer, but Obama would have still won. There was too much raw hatred of the Republicans that built-up over many years and McCain was more of the same and had no real plan.
You are absolutely right! The Republicans' failure to set a positive vision for the future, as well as their continued desire to have one half of the country consider the other half as enemies, were the real reasons for their losses. Although Obama touched upon both last night in his speech, the analysts today seem to be avoiding both topics.
One of the most odd excuses I've heard so far was just now from Dick Armey on MSNBC. The Republicans lost because "the voters were confused."
That's right Dick. The Republicans just weren't Republican enough, and that confused the voters. Talk about not getting it. Please keep thinking that way.
Obama's victory was a total repudiation of hate radio bigotry and phony patriotism of people like you Laura, and Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly, etc. etc. Your power and influence has been relegated to the dustbin of history. My hope is soon we no longer will have your whiny, nasally voice polluting the public airways with your lies and BS.
The problem with Ingraham's argument (that voters rejected a bad Republican administration and not conservatism itself) is that the Republicans (including Ingraham) turned the campaign into a battle of ideology. She and others hammered on about Obama being a socialist and a Marxist rather than talking about the issues that voters face.
Now, it's fine to make an ideological argument but, if you do that and end up losing the election, you then have to accept that the voters rejected your ideology...or you have to admit you were lying about your opponent's ideology. You can't have it both ways.
Of course, Ingraham can't do either of those things so she has to retreat to La-La Land where she's able to invoke the It'sNotMyFault™ rule.
(It'sNotMyFault™ is a registered trademark of the GOP 2000-2008. All rights reserved.)
Man, Faux News loves those bimbo fembots. Choke on it, Laura.
I am really proud of my country right now. It'll be nice to have a president that isn't embarrassing. Hell, he might actually pick people for his cabinet who are *gasp* qualified. Good job, America.
I do agree with the people on this thread who say we must be vigilant. The crazies aren't going down quietly. If you think they went after Clinton, you ain't seen nothing yet.
What the hell is she smoking?? and better yet, can you find it in the Los Angeles???
How big a moron is she?
They haven't grasped yet that the financial collapse has gutted their entire philosophical premise. Economics, and Conservative economics in particular, depends upon the existence of rational actors. The insanity of the last 8 years culminated in an historic collapse. The investors acted insanely, perfectly willing to risk vast sums of money without anything resembling sufficient information. Republican political dogma is (was?) adamant in rejecting regulation. So, they're left peddling a doctrine which events completely repudiated. It's as thorough, if less dramatic, as the repudiation of Communism.
She unintentionally called "Joe the Plumber" dumb. But boy, they're in their own little unhappy world.
Let me open by saying that I am not exactly conservative, but I do believe the record needs to set straight. This wasn't the fault of the conservatve movement, not the Reagan/Goldewater traditionalists anyway.
This wasn't a "free market" style of deregulation. It was much much worse. We all know it, but I'll repeat that Bushco put the lobbyists in charge of the regulatory agencies they used to lobby against. This left us with the illusion of regulation, but in reality veiled in the same secrecy as everything else they took part in.
This created a "have your cake and eat it too" scenario, except the cake was moved into a back room. We were told the cake was there and that it was fine, but meanwhile the cake was being gobbled up and pieces sold off to the highest bidder at such an alarming rate that the cake was gone on Sep 5, '08. Had it been a situation where they truly did away with all regulation, then the cake would have been left on the table in the back of the reception room, and we would have all seen them eating it up and selling ti off. We could have stopped them- Free Market.
Not that I am a free market guy really, although I do think it could work, it would just have to be an absolutely free market. This illusion of regulation and secrecy was the problem and it was brought on by the NeoCons, not the conservative movement.
But now the liberals will try to fix it for them, and most likely do as much damage by trying to swing the pendulum too far to the other direction. I sure hope not.
Shhh! Don't say a thing. Do not discourage them from practicing the same insanity and expecting a better outcome. Just continue to mock and ridicule them over their own stupidity.
The house burned down because we didn't use ENOUGH gasoline!
From Ingraham's perspective, the ironic upside of Obama's election is that she and the other conservative wackjobs now have a political pinata to beat with their sticks. Get ready for four years of "I told you so" blather from this ditz. Is there a more annoying and repellant woman on the conservative side? Well, maybe Ann Coulter but no one's really sure if she's actually a woman.
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