Yes, 'respectable' Republicans, you do have reason to worry
It seems respectable Republicans who like to think of themselves as "intellectual" conservatives are growing dismayed at the living, breathing monster they themselves have unleashed upon us:
Such insiders point to theories running rampant on the Internet, such as the idea that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is thus ineligible to be president, or that he is a communist, or that his allies want to set up Nazi-like detention camps for political opponents. Those theories, the insiders say, have stoked the GOP base and have created a "purist" climate in which a figure such as Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) is lionized for his "You lie!" outburst last week when Obama addressed Congress.
They are "wild accusations and the paranoid delusions coming from the fever swamps," said David Frum, a conservative author and speechwriter for President George W. Bush who is among the more vocal critics of the party base and of the conservative talk show hosts helping to fan the unrest.
"Like all conservatives, I am concerned about this administration's accumulation of economic power," Frum said. "Still, you have to be aware that there's a line where legitimate concerns begin to collapse into paranoid fantasy."
Frum and other establishment Republicans have spoken out in recent days against the influence of what they view as their party's fringe elements.
Some are pressuring the Republican National Committee and other mainstream GOP groups to cut ties with WorldNetDaily.com, which reports some of the allegations. Its articles are cited by websites and pundits on the right. More than any other group, critics say, WorldNetDaily sets the conservative fringe agenda.
Well, as observed last week, getting unentwined from the liked of WorldNetDaily and its extremist clientele is easier said than done.
No, the right-wing populist beast is loose. You fellas have the right idea, but you're a bit late. We're already well into the great thrashing about that comes with any set of death throes, such as those now besetting movement conservatism. You can see how it plays out on the ground now, particularly at the Tea Parties. And it isn't pretty.
A camera crew from Free Speech Radio showed up in D.C. on Saturday for the big GlennBeckFest. It was frightening and disturbing and even got ugly. The reporter, Leigh Ann Caldwell, describes what happened:
We met a group of nearly a dozen "912ers." They adorned t-shirts with the fractured Revolutionary War snake, the symbol of their group created by Glenn Beck. At the end of the 10-minute interview, they demanded my contact information and a picture so they could "find" me if they didn't like our work. I took that as a threat, declined to give them my contact information and walked away. They followed and continued with their demands. I continued to decline.
One of the women then yelled into her megaphone that "the woman in the black shirt works for ACORN." She commanded the crowd to take my picture. They found out my last name from a previous interviewee, so she then yelled my full name into the megaphone and nearly 50 people surrounded and swarmed me, putting cameras in my face as they heckled and laughed. The crowd then followed me down Pennsylvania Avenue for the next ten minutes.
Robin Bell, the cameraman, posted that and other videos at his channel at YouTube.
I hope everyone took note of what color those T-shirts were. Please tell me that was just an accident.
Because the behavior sure did remind of people in that color of shirt. Nice earthy brown.
And dontcha love how the self-importance-inflating numbers -- the teabagging shouter ends by saying she was with 2 million great Americans that day -- have already become embedded reality for them. These are true fanatics. (The numbers, in reality, were closer to 60,000.)
Michael Shaw found some images from the 912 event along the same lines, with a touch of death wish thrown in for good measure.
We wish Frum and his sane conservative friends lots of luck rescuing their movement from the flood of wingnuttery washing away their lovely intellectual-right edifice. But let's face it, fellas -- it was made out of sand in the first place. These are the natural consequences of that fact.
I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.
Jay Gould
US
financier & railroad businessmanRobber Baron (1836 - 1892)----
Consider these clips from the work of the late (d 1988) Australian sociologist Alex Carey
The first and so far only scientifically drawn study of the history of the corporate war on democracy.
CORPORATIONS AND PROPAGANDA
The Attack on Democracy
Part 1 - history through WWII
Part 2 - history after WWII
Mariah Gilardian at TUC radio (user supported) here, produced the clips.
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
"In the corporate state, corporate media ARE the State media."
(waves modestly, acknowledges authorship...)
Did you ever read Jacques Ellul's exhaustive treatise on propagandas? Apart from his "western/Christian bias" in selecting examples, which can be distracting, it seems to me to have been both perfectly descriptive, and freakily predictive.
I have not read Jacques Ellul's Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes, thank you for the tip. I will add him to my list which is already longer than the time I have remaining on this earth.
Wiki which I only refer with the largest grains of salt describe him as a Christian Anarchist. I will require some time to digest the implications of that term, seemly an oxymoron as it is.
In the meantime, in my daily readings I found this from economist Mark Thoma
here
Drawn from the sociological study "The Undeserving Rich: 'Moral Values' and the White Working Class," found in the current issue of Sociological Forum.
here
Anarchism has to do, according to Chomsky, with determining the legitimacy of authority. For these folks there may be something to the concept of Christian Anarchism after all. I will think about it.
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
but so many years ago when I was in high school I was taught that anarchism is an absence of governing institutions. Much as communism was described by Marx. Just with anarchy being the far right extreme and communism being the far left extreme. Or to put it more simply anarchy would be the individual is most important and communism would be the community is the most important.
Don't know if that helps any or not but that's my take.
Your high school teacher meant well I am sure but the comment reflects the lack of understanding and depth of thought on the subject. I will look to Chomsky who has written extensively on the subject. The term has been abused everywhere but most of all in the US.
In Europe the term is generally applied to a far left communal thought. The Anarchists of the Spanish Civil war are the one example where anarchism reached the level of institution. Although it was overthrown by the fascists.
In Europe anarchism and libertarianism are used interchangeably for social thinking on the left.
It means something very different from the US term libertarian which is akin the Ayn Rand's Objectivism.
But enough on -isms from me.
A piece from Chomsky is here
excerpt
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
abused ......... most of all in the US.
There are are great many things in that list ........
Where do you find "respectable rebublicans"?
There are respectable repubs and they are appalled with the mouthpieces and the fringe..The wingnuts and crazies have hijacked their movement..
Read 'Looming Towers' and note who owns the Insurance Cos:
Wall Street Banks hold these percentages of shares in Health Insurance giants and are increasing shares by the tens of millions
United 77.32%
WellPoint 79.04%
Aetna 79.45%
CIGNA Corp. 68.71%
Coventry Health 82.25%
Health Net Inc. 79.37%
Wall Street is the enemy. Can we afford another bailout for these people and their bonus structure!
had pulled out a Smith & Wesson and started shooting? Would these conservatives embraced her as One of Their Own, or run screaming in terror?
robber baron. He was a robber baron's robber baron. This is the man who got into a railroad freight war with Vanderbilt and made a fortune shipping cattle east on Vanderbilt's railroad while Vanderbilt took a loss on every head.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Thanks for the links Alice.
Max Blumenthal also mined him some teabagger gold:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UASS1qFAIQ8&fe...
In my 31 years on this planet, I've yet to see these "intellectual" Republicans. If they're not peddling hate, appealing to the lowest common denominator, and raking in big bucks from special interests to do their bidding, they're not really Republicans, are they?
..a republican't tradition dating back to 1981.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
More like 1951.
I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.....
More like 1929.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
1861
1492!
HA!
means "educated". Someone who knows a lot of words and whose written opinions take up more space than is available on a hand written cardboard placard.
Oh, they exist, all right.
I was once engaged to one, so I know whereof I speak.
They are very real.
But their heads are in a very unhealthy place. Because the maintenance of their beliefs requires them to simply refuse to see many things. They have to jump through hoops to keep it up.
After enough years of this, they just don't know any other way of doing things.
holy shit on a shingle... the right has become so unhinged that david frum,the wargasmic liar, is seen as a respectable conservative intellectual?
bwahahaha? frum? jesus, stick a fork in 'em, they're done.
is CBC Radio gave him (yet again), a Nation-wide (Canuckistan-wide that is) half hour to spew his deranged lies. They continually prop him up as if he is some wise elder-statesman of the Right ... he shouldnt even be allowed back over the border...
I'm Boycotting NewsCorp! Heres what not to buy: http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=news...
"Hitleresque"?? How quaint. ahahahahahahahahahahah
Indeed, I'm constantly surprised at the amount of effort that americans put into being wilfully ignorant.
"America is the greatest place on earth"
A) Wrong.
B) Funny coming from someone who comes from a different planet and has never visited the US, let alone the real world.
1) Americans gets an upper-case "A"
2) Did you mean: willfully
3) Really, ALL Americans?
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
Let's pander to redneck racists and religious fanatics!
Otherwise, we'll never get enough people to vote against their own best interests.
What could possibly go wrong?
Glen Beck did NOT create the divided snake logo. Ben Franklin did in 1754.
ACORN mulls suit against Fox News
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
I believe that is the reason for referring to it as "created by Glenn Beck". I'm pretty certain Leigh Ann Caldwell knows it's history, thus the reference to it being a "Revolutionary War snake".
To me, that's like saying if I paint my car a color other than the factory color, I created it.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
Just like McCain learned you bullshit long enough and you create people that believed your bullshit. Can't just inject some truth and calm them down.
Glad to hear these uneducated lunatics are seen as the dying of the Reslug party.
... could y'all be a little more efficient and do it faster?
da commies are gonna take ma guns away and my freedumbs are you one them evil ACORNs?
"Freedumb" -- I love it! Did you make that word up?
These tea-baggers have sure cornered the market on ugly broads and fat guys with weird-looking beards.
Incredible mullets, that 70's anti-disco look rears it's ugly head for Sean Insanity and Glenda Beck at the teabag nutter walk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gmLEAdPK5Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBhGlsxKkuQ&fe...
isn't that an oxymoron?
I have many republican friends, and they're good and decent, "salt of the earth" type folks.
They are disgusted by this kind of shit.
That said..."respectable republican politician" IS an oxymoron.
Over the years, I have made the point, on this blog and on others, that these folks do not represent true conservatism.
Unfortunately, I can no longer make that statement in good faith.
This did not happen overnite. For the last 30 years true conservatives watched as their movement was usurped by extremists in the GOP. That usurption won elections and, because it won elections and power, true conservatives remained silent. They have no one to blame but themselves and I no longer have any sympathy. They allowed not only their whole philosophy to be torn asunder, but the country as well. For that, there is no forgiveness and no redemption.
Perhaps they would now like to join the liberals in the wilderness, where we were driven as "true conservatives" sat by silently and did nothing.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
"True conservatives"
Is that something to do with divine right of kings, perhaps?
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
No. That's called Bushatism.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Bushite-ism!
I'd say more along the lines of the "True Scotsman" thingy.
cause I'm in Orlando, FL and I have lots of Republicans around me and they have all swallowed some form of irrational Obamahate - whether it's a mild antipathy to Obamacare lies or full-fledged teabagger insanity.
Not one of them is simply disagreeing on the facts of the issues. In fact, they either don't know, or flatly deny the facts - but they can spout the Faux talking points of the day verbatim.
I am convinced that without the return of the Fairness Doctrine, this will not change.
Granted we got those kinds of republicans here too, but not as many as other places.
That said, I had to run off this idjit from my b-day party over labor day weekend for being a racist sexist homophobic asshole...
And...the new office lady seems to be one of those teabagger types.
She got into an argument with me AND my dad, who employs the both of us, over healthcare...and her reason THIS week for being against healthcare was because her mother, who has worked so long and hard at Humana, may end up losing everything she's worked for her entire life...also...her boyfriend is a health insurance salesman...so I'm thinkin she might be gettin uncut talking points straight from the source....
I agree roooth...reinstate the Fairness Doctrine and tweak to include todays technology.
protesters want their private insurers to approve of bigger scalpels so they can cut deeper through the fat. Of course the insurers will refuse that because it would still be experimental.
These loons are out proudly whoring themselves for the Reich-Wing, but only until their welfare checks arrive. Ignorant hypocrites.
During the last presidential campaign the republicans went to bed with the dogs and today they wonder why they have fleas? That'll happen.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
... fleas just bite and ride around in your fur.
Chiggers burrow.
I don't think dogs actually carry chiggers, but ticks might work since they suck the blood out of the host and enough of them on a small dog can't make it mighty sick if not kill it. That's what a lot of higher up republicans do, they suck the life out of these stupid tea baggers and will happily leave them when there is no more blood to suck.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
POLY = Many
TICKS = Blood-sucking insects.
POLITICS = ???
I've never heard that before but it is PERFECT!
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Note to the GOP..
The fringe IS your base!!
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
That brought me back. In the 1980s, two LaRouchies in Illinois won the Democratic nomination for a couple of statewide offices through an electoral fluke. (Details are way too boring and stupid to go into here.) This forced the MSM to pay attention to them, of course, and one of them would rail about the "Communist Broadcasting System" every time a camera from the local CBS affiliate came near her.
is that FOX uses the style most reminiscent of the old Soviet Union media.
At the teabugger party, I've seen a number of signs with "Larouchepac.com" written at the bottom.
I've also been reading about those signs that said "Bury Obamacare with Kennedy." Those apparently were sponsored by the American Life League, a radical whacko Catholic group (somewhat in the line of angry, crazed William Donahue of the Catholic League).
This morning I saw that Rawstory had a report that ALL might have violated tax code by sponsoring something with an obvious political slant to it.
This morning I saw that Rawstory had a report that ALL might have violated tax code by sponsoring something with an obvious political slant to it.
Call a cop. These people don't pay taxes anyway.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
"ALL might have violated tax code by sponsoring something with an obvious political slant "
not a wingnut. He's still crazy, but not a republican crazy.
I've never really been able to figure out what LaRouche is, other than a an extremely crazy whackjob. Early on, he did embrace socialist and Marxist ideas, but later in life, I think he moved far to the right. I think he might associate himself now with the Democratic party, but I haven't read up on him lately.
I did go to his Larouchepac.com site this past weekend, and he has a "campaign" called "Stop Obama's Nazi Health Plan." That says enough for me to know what he currently is.
but he's definitely crazier'n hell....
I heard he started out fairly left leaning...but over the years adopt more hard line, right wing ideals.
BUT...who knows...
is an equal opportunity opportunist. His current dogma has a heavy right wing cant with more than a dash of libertarianism but he has historically harvested his loonies first from the left and now from the right. As to his not being a Republican one can only say that his tent is currently an annex of the Republican tent which itself has become something of a MASH unit for those mentally unhinged by the last presidential election.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Conservatives have no one but themselves to blame for this.
They've spent the last 40 years or so perfecting a strategy for winning elections that is actually quite effective: divide an conquer. Look for places where Democrats are ahead by a small margin, identify divisive issues, run the politics of resentment, gain the seat. The basic Atwater/Rove playbook. It works.
This created a conscious schizophrenia within the Republican party. Those in the governing class (ie the Bush family, your Roberts Dole, etc), knew that the campaign rhetoric had nothing whatsoever to do with their governing agenda. Say whatever you need to say to get elected, and then do what you need to do to keep your friends in clover.
This cynicism, of course, exists in every political stripe, but Republicans made an outright virtue of it. They believed it was correct to run campaigns on who's more Jesusy than who, who's keeping an eye on the Mexicans and blacks, who can shut their eyes real tight and pretend that teenagers don't have sex, etc and then govern on draining the public coffers into the pockets of their sponsors. Many of them have even convinced themselves that these are two parts of the same integrated politics.
The problem with embracing cynicism so openly (and, again, Democrats have their strain of this virus too, it's just a bit less virulent and a whole lot less crazy) is that you eventually abandon any idea that campaigns need to be in any way ingenuous.
It doesn't matter what you say, or who you pander to, or what batshit crazy conspiracy theory you endorse to win an election, so long as you win and get in line behind the "serious, centrist" agenda of gutting the public coffers.
The reason you don't see this on the left is because Democrats, however corrupt they might be, still try to campaign more or less on the basis of how they intend to govern.
They may sell snake oil about the effectiveness of this or that policy, their motives may be hidden or convenient, they may bury the lead and guild the lily, but at the end of the day they will campaign on improving education and then try to improve education (or health care, or public safety or whatever.) Their governance matches their campaigning, at least in broad strokes.
So now the Republicans are stuck with a bunch of lunatics who expect them to actually govern, seriously, on issues like secession, radical anti-Federalism (which hasn't been in vogue since the 1850s), rounding up millions of illegal immigrants, invoking Hitler over routine governance issues, racial and religious separatism, etc.
Now, it's true that there are people on the left who want the Democrats to govern on the basis of 9/11 trutherism and other crackpottery, but these people are never given anything like a seat at the table. Why? Because they are not pandered to during the election.
Cynicism will out. Eventually, you will be surrounded by true believers and you will be their puppet, not they yours.
So enjoy it, conservative "intellectuals." You spared no ink congratulating yourselves on the impending "permanent Republican majority" this tactic seemed to promise back in 2000.
And while it's true that Bush was just about the worst president in the history of the Republic, you cannot blame all your party's woes on him alone. For all the ineptness of the Bush Administration, they never endorsed the kind of bat guano nutbaggery you're now neck deep in.
This is all on you. And it's going to stay there. This is a product of a strategy you were all too eager to embrace when it seemed to be working.
And that's it.
Pitch-perfect. Bush the Elder, in particular, was able to rationalize the dirtiest tactics (see: Willie Horton) because in his mind, electioneering was a dirty business entirely separate from the duties of governing.
Molly Ivins once recounted how GHWB, during the 1992 campaign, told that old joke about the guy who was buried up to his neck and a bull was sicced on him. He snapped at the bull's testicles, and his tormentors immediately yelled, "No, no! Fight fair!" In Bush's mind, he was the guy buried up to his neck (which he was, by his own mishandling of the economy), and he had no recourse but to go for Clinton's balls, and how unfair it was of everyone to say that was unfair.
If there's anything worse than a dirty fighter, it's a dirty, self-pitying fighter.
I really miss Molly Irvins. She wouldn't stand for this bullshit coming from these people.
but when people are slaughtered by wackos because of this - and that may be a whole lot closer than we want to think - the conservatives will not take responsibility. In fact, they'll blame us for getting in the way of their bullets and bombs.
You know it's true.
Shakespeare, as usual, was right. Never shrink from these bully assholes. Face them up, nose to nose, ever time, every day, everywhere. Never back down from them. Tell them to their faces what deluded fools they are.
The readiness is all.
Methinks tis like a weasel.
The second video on this clip from morning joe show some conservatives in a more rationale moment. I particularly liked Dylan Ratigan's points about false choices and how this is not capitalism that we are in (while squarely acknowledging the giveaway started under Bush). He also acknowledges how the corporations do not want competition or capitalism and until we address their power and size, no meaningful reform exists. Not even in the current bill.
1. Geez, there sure were an awful lot of right wing whackoes and haters at that thing.
2. Even though there were an awful lot of crazed teabuggers, the streets in this video actually do not look that crowded....certainly not wall to wall people.
3. It is interesting how many signs I see saying "Thank you Fox" and signs that denigrate CNN. People who watch Cluster Faux like these people do almost certainly watch the beck.
4. It has been dawning on me that Cluster Faux' promotion and support of this event is very similar to its own promotion. Cluster Faux talking heads like the beck and sean the insane talk about how these teabuggery events are made up of all types of Amuricuns.....griff the stiff jenkins the other day said there were "blacks, whites, Democrats, repuglicans, independents...." (Funny, I saw few black people); the dipshits at Cluster Faux are trying to make it seem as if this is a grass roots thing and that it is in effect "fair and balanced," which is one of their own slogans for itself. They are trying to compare these teabuggers directly to their own network and trying to make it seem that since this is a cross-section and majority of Amuricuns, then their own network is also a network that all Amuricuns can trust.
I find it peculiar that so many posters (concerned trolls) try the old "I was a Democrat who is now ashamed of voting for Obama" routine.
Like I would go "Gee, I should listen to this guy."
Ultra maroons and morans.
And love the pic of a sign "Thank you Fox news for keeping me infromed" Ha!
Just once I'd like to be addressed as Sir. Without the "You are creating a scene"
I would really like to see an objective poll that tells us just how many Democrats actually are part of this teabuggery movement.
...it'd be about equal to the number of Democrats who tend to wake up every morning very confused about their surroundings...
but I don't remember being at any of these teabaggin events...
but hey..then again...down 2 boxes of dramamine chased with listerine...and see how much YOU can remember in the mornin!
You'll have the Milquetoast rantin' about the REAL teabaggers again, and how these people are all just posers!
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" - Red Green
Freedom Ain't Free - Pay Your Share
As tempting as it is to respond to the absolute ignorance and blinded hate (the woman yelling about fascism and anarchy and their meanings stupidity particularly made my skin crawl), it is pointless to get in a screaming match with this sector of the population. Although we must be vociferous in public debate and in the media, to try and use reason and facts to counter these people is futile.
As hard as it may be, we need to take a more psychological stance when analyzing the far-right, and as hard as it may be, that includes using empathy. As a former mental health worker of low income and high-risk youths, I had to deal with clients who said horrible things and whose views disgusted me, but I was also able to see some of the reasons why they had these views. When you are uneducated, when you were raised in a neglectful and abusive environment, it becomes much easier to cling to unadulterated hate-mongering. Hate is much less complicated and much more gratifying in the short term than reason.
If we look at the battle of ideology as a competition of the left vs the right, we lose our focus in fighting for real systematic change. As we all know that unfettered capitalism leads to a corrupt society, we should not let the right define the terms on the battlefield of ideas. Instead of a competition, let's think of it as a therapy session.
We should extend an empathetic hand out, and as we watch it get smacked away time and time again, we must remind ourselves that the cause is bigger than our need to want to tell an ignorant person that they are wrong.
with the 'pubs in Congress?
So who'll pay for the pints, mate?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
;-)
ys single?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhK9G7_zoEM
Just once I'd like to be addressed as Sir. Without the "You are creating a scene"
and He'll bite it off AND give you Rabies. Then try to hump your leg. Who knows where it'll end.
I agree, Teddy; psychologists have been learning how fearful conservatives are. If we can show them how to be really safe (by making friends around the world, for example, rather than enemies), then they can dare to question their old beliefs and make some progress.
Of course we have to keep on acting at the same time to change things, and to prosecute and punish the truly wicked, but to present an I-told-you-so air to the people who are allowing themselves to be used just makes them even more reluctant to learn and grow.
(the woman yelling about fascism and anarchy and their meanings stupidity particularly made my skin crawl)
It's tough to see what your country REALLY looks like...isn't it.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
she is able to do and say all those things without nazis taking her away. She is free to make an ass out of herself as much as the next guy. It is tough to see what her version of her country is that is for sure. WingNuto'vision.
Just once I'd like to be addressed as Sir. Without the "You are creating a scene"
Fox making its own news. Makes this clip form Mr. Show pretty prophetic.
Channel Six - We make the news...happen!
geniuses!
There were financial depressions in 1819, 1837, 1857, 1873, 1893 and I think 1910 (?).
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I had to chop it short. But in every case either excessive speculations on commodities like cotton or insurance, crop failures, and war costs were involved.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
God knows where the Dutch and America would be today if it hadn't been for the tulips.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
the lawd for all those Dutch and American women who planted tulips....
Can the signs of the death of the republican party be any more obvious? Do these people actually hold down jobs? Do Republicans actually condone this behavior? Good luck in all you endevours GOP. You need it.
Just once I'd like to be addressed as Sir. Without the "You are creating a scene"
...If you're not loudly decrying the insanity being screamed by those that represent you, you're NOT respectable.
Robin Bell's link (the cameraman) that you provided does not work, at least on my computer. The other links you provide do.
Can you give us one that does work?
Thanks....I really appreciate seeing things like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTbipRzgp0A for some video.
And cameramans page: http://www.youtube.com/user/TeaBaggers91209
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
Thanks, Michelle. I tried looking on YouTube but couldn't find them.
But I've watched so far only a smart part of that second video from the cameraman's page, and it's making me sick.....think like they do...."flag-waving, God-loving,...American patriot people." Jeebus H. Christ. I cannot stand people like this.
Hey, I'm a flag-waver.....I love this country and want to send our troops to kill fureners....I don't want no commie Nazi Marxist black man in the White House.....it's not patriotic!
One of those videos shows a white guy with apparently a black wife and a couple of kids.
He says that Obama is "too black to be President." He explains this as being that he is "black in his heart....he's a bad guy."
That seems quite odd to make a statement like that, if he really has a black wife. I want that guy to prove that he really is married to that black lady. Where's his marriage certificate?
Also found it curious that his "wife" didn't say anything and that one of his "kids" was holding a sign that said something like "Obama sat in shit for 20 years....." What a lovely way to raise one's kids!
but I know what you mean.
Way to perpetuate the hate.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
The brown was very fetching. Did they all toast marshmallows around the burning books afterwards?
They all spew this nonsensical 'Liberal-Marxist-Nazi' nonsense.
If they knew the first thing about history (Ha!), they'd know that the first thing Hitler did when he took power in 1933 was to throw the Marxists, socialists and liberals in concentration camps. The burning of the Reichstag in February, 1933 was blamed on the communists. Thousands of communists, anarchists, socialists and social democrats were rounded up and send to Dachau. Habeus corpus was suspended. By July 1933, Germany was a fascist dictatorship.
This was all before the Nuremberg laws and the pogroms.
So much for Liberal fascism. Not that these idiots have any clue what they're talking about.
..NOT A THING to do with hitler, nazis, etc.
Its all about the scary black man in the White House who happens to have run with the Democratic party! I don't care what anyone sez'. Making the idiotic comparisons to hitler, nazis, etc. somehow "legitimizes" their idiotic concerns to no one but like-minded morons but that's it. They don't need no stinkin' facts gettin' in the way of their primitive, outdated, biased attitudes; that wouldn't be 'murican', now would it?
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Each and every one. And they can’t count either. They all must be doing Lortab and are seeing triple or quadruple. At least they will go down in history as an example of what it looks like when a modern American political party crashes and burns. The wolves are already eating its carcass.
This marks the end of the world as they know it, and I feel fine.
If you carry a sign around that says, “I work hard so Obama voters don’t have to!” and then they go on a rant about the Healthcare rationing would be killing the old and non-productive, but wouldn’t that actually be the Obama supporters if the first sing is true?
probably the best video i've seen that highlights the absurdity of this ignoramus-pride parade.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y
That was great! It shows the ignorance of these teabaggers.
He's like a sober passenger in a speeding car, admonishing its' drunk driver to slow down.
And there's a bridge out ahead....
She said she spent the day with 2 million wonderful people. But it appears that the last couple of women traded brains for tits.
Damn how stupid these people are.
republicanism is a mental illness!
It's especially funny that she made that comment about 2 million people in the very next sentence after chastising the cameraman for not using facts.
And the lady in black near the beginning...
"NAZI! FASCIST! NAZI! FASCIST!" See, this constitutes hard-hitting debate to them.
This vocal minority has to be loving the attention they're suddenly getting. I just wish I saw more evidence that Americans are rejecting their utter lunacy. Some are... but it's not enough.
I predict that Glenn Beck will try to organize more and more of these teabugger parties as the months and years go on, with fewer and fewer people responding.
our loony lefties had a copyright on FEMA concentration camps. It was a Bush thing wasn't it? Or is that particular piece of lunacy non-partisan. Sometimes it's hard keep track of the craziness without a DSM.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
so you don't have to.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
near the front of the quonset
HA!
I prefer the bottom bunk myself as long as you're not a bed wetter. It's sort of like hell isn't it, a FEMA camp, unpleasant but I'd be too busy greeting old friends to worry about it.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
but that depends on how much FEMA camp hooch I drink before passin out...
Do you ever wonder what the rest of the world thinks of you?
This is the face that corporate America wants to show the world.
And yes, I think about how the rest of the world must be shaking their heads right now.
there are enough loud-mouthed & stupid non-thinkers to garner attention from what is now the media. This is what the rest of the world sees...and is stunned by.
I believe, like myself, that most people in the rest of the world do realize that most Americans are reasonable, fair & honest people, who are ashamed by what is being allowed to 'grow' in your country.
I think we are more shocked that this insanity is being allowed to continue & given any credence whatsoever.
is so famous for saying...
We gotta nip it in the bud Andy...NIP IT!
who form their opinions based solely on what they see on the idiot box which is a shallow reservoir of knowledge. I deal with a great many Americans and I find the vast majority are very engaging and uniformly civil in person.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
They're probably thinking what mental healthcare center was giving out weekend passes.
The rest of the world doesn't really exist. (Well, you know. There's Cancun and Epcot Center.) Mostly, the rest of the world is a story they tell you in school -- like evolution.
Hell, 49 out of 50 probably couldn't name every state in our own country with a gun to their head. Doesn't everybody watch Jaywalking on TV? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tonight_Show...
Is there really a respectible republican? They seek a benevolent dictatorship you know... no ifs, ands, or buts about it. You could say goodbye to democracy, and they make no bones about it.
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"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Why can't we hurry up on those Republican Concentration Camps and Forced Sterilization Programs we've all been secretly talking about?
Our Secret Liberal Communist School-Children Indoctrination Program is already behind schedule, as well...
How are we going to make the whole country gay and socialist and Muslim and get abortions and kill their grandparents and babies while these true patriots are out there spreading the truth about our agenda?
Our supreme leader George Soros isn't going to be happy about this...
They are eerily reminiscent of pictures, documentaries I've seen about the rise of fascism in Italy and Germany, and the blackshirts of Mussolini and the brownshirts of Hitler.
Very reminiscent....And in both cases they triumphed at first because the "opposition" (i.e. you and me) allowed itself to become divided over its own in retrospect petty ideological arguments. Permitting the fascists to actually become legitimized via elections!
A morality tale for all of us as 2010 awaits us
Mental Disorders in America (from the National Institute of Mental Health--http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/the-numbers-count-mental-disorders-in-america/index.shtml)
Mental disorders are common in the United States and internationally. An estimated 26.2 percent of Americans ages 18 and older — about one in four adults — suffer from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year.... Even though mental disorders are widespread in the population, the main burden of illness is concentrated in a much smaller proportion — about 6 percent, or 1 in 17 — who suffer from a serious mental illness.
Homer Simpsons!!!
Homer is f*ckin' Einstein compared to these loons.
to Homer Simpson.
NOBODY 2012
From the first link in the post, Republican Michael Goldfarb making the assumption that the teabaggers are just like Code Pink but on the right. I know some Code Pink members and many teabaggers.
There really is no comparison. If he thinks that is voters will think, he is very out of touch. Teabaggers scared the moderates long before this weekend, and since recess they are scaring the rest of the right too.
The republicans wanted to become the big tent and pander to the religious right to get more votes
They wanted their votes, but not their voices....
Well too bad Republicans, you got both. Now you can sleep in the bed you made.
mocks the threat that the journalist felt. "Because she thinks you are an angry mob... " she laughed.
She has no idea how quickly yelling, pushing and shoving can turn a seemingly peaceful crowd into an angry mob. It can happen in a flash.
The journalist was right to feel threatened.
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
"Like all conservatives, I am concerned about this administration's accumulation of economic power," Frum said. "Still, you have to be aware that there's a line where legitimate concerns begin to collapse into paranoid fantasy."
Frum didn't mind at all when Bush was giving massive tax cuts to the rich while ginning up fake evidence to send our military into Iraq! He didn't mind at all when Bush did the billions of dollars give-away to big Pharma on that bogus medicare drug benefit deal. Frum didn't mind it when Bush presided over the awarding of the TARP funds. Bush's presidency was a smash and grab! Now Obama is left to clean up that fucker's mess!!
"By words the mind is winged." - Aristophanes
I would guess that this (CBC interview) only came about because of his mother, Barbara Frum, who was a well-respected Canadian journalist.
I often wonder what Barbara would think of her son's politics.
If these are the faces and the demented paranoia of the Republican Party now, then I will never vote for another candidate with an "R" behind their name.
OOH I like it.
It has a certain cache.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
And both the Republicans and us Democrats agreed. This is embarrassing the nation.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Nazi! Fascist! Fascist! Nazi! Duck! Duck! GOOSE!
*RUNS AWAY*
NOBODY 2012
Just think how lucky Americans are as David Frum was born in Canada and is thus ineligible to be President of the US.
We in Canada are also very lucky as he seems to concentrate his conservative agitating south of the border.
It's a win-win situation in my book.
Wow they really DO have brownshirts in their groups.
Oh the IRONY!
I pray night and day for a big rock to fall out of the sky and land on certain people!
"Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"
I think the fact they can't count should tell us something about these p[eople.two million?No politics, just the facts.. they can't count!!!
This is the inevitable end point of the magical alliance of the three factions of the GOP: groups that have entirely contradictory aims. For example, the libertariand want the government out of our lives and the social conservatives want it to control our bedroom behaviors. The freemarketers want the government out of commerce while the social conservatives want to ban all sorts of commerce.
OK, where to go now? The only healthy course is for the more moderate and seensible folks who want to hold on to anything in the face of the know-nothing revolution in the GOP is to form a moderate, center-right party and coax the centrist blue dog dems to join. Then we will have two parties: one center-right, the other center-left. We'll have a place for social conservatives on the far right.
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