Bill Kristol smacks Glenn Beck with John Bircher label over his insane 'Egypt-Muslim Caliphate' Theory
Basically, Beck foresees a Middle Eastern "Caliphate" overtaking Europe and China controlling big chunks of new territory, all fueled by a "Marxist" and "Islamist" conspiracy:
Beck; I believe that I can make a case in the end that there are three powers that you will see really emerge. One, a Muslim caliphate that controls the Mideast and parts of Europe. Two, China, that will control Asia, the southern half of Africa, part of the Middle East, Australia, maybe New Zealand, and God only knows what else. And Russia, which will control all of the old former Soviet Union bloc, plus maybe the Netherlands. I'm not really sure. But their strong arm is coming. That leaves us and South America. What happens to us?
As the uprising in Egypt has dominated our news coverage, it's interesting watching Conservatives split apart over how America and President Obama should be handling himself over the issue. On one hand you have Dick Morris nastily screaming at Obama and saying: Dick Morris thinks Obama administration should back Mubarak and his thugs, 'aggressively confront' protesters while others like John Fund think Obama has handled it very well. Bill Kristol entered into their debate and says fools like Glenn Beck marginalize themselves just like the Birchers did back in the 60's with their conspiracy theories.
Now, people are more than entitled to their own opinions of how best to accomplish that democratic end. And it's a sign of health that a political and intellectual movement does not respond to a complicated set of developments with one voice.
But hysteria is not a sign of health. When Glenn Beck rants about the caliphate taking over the Middle East from Morocco to the Philippines, and lists (invents?) the connections between caliphate-promoters and the American left, he brings to mind no one so much as Robert Welch and the John Birch Society. He's marginalizing himself, just as his predecessors did back in the early 1960s.
Nor is it a sign of health when other American conservatives are so fearful of a popular awakening that they side with the dictator against the democrats. Rather, it's a sign of fearfulness unworthy of Americans, of short-sightedness uncharacteristic of conservatives, of excuse-making for thuggery unworthy of the American conservative tradition.
I've often written how the GOP has been hijacked by the Bircher faction of their party so it's not news to me. Rich Lowry of the NRO agrees with Kristol and remember, the fight for Conservatism began between Robert Welch and William F. Buckley.
William F. Buckley: Goldwater, the John Birch Society, and Me
The society had been founded in 1958 by an earnest and capable entrepreneur named Robert Welch, a candy man, who brought together little clusters of American conservatives, most of them businessmen. He demanded two undistracted days in exchange for his willingness to give his seminar on the Communist menace to the United States, which he believed was more thoroughgoing and far-reaching than anyone else in America could have conceived. His influence was near-hypnotic, and his ideas wild. He said Dwight D. Eisenhower was a “dedicated, conscious agent of the Communist conspiracy,” and that the government of the United States was “under operational control of the Communist party.” It was, he said in the summer of 1961, “50-70 percent” Communist-controlled...read on
...of right wing cannibalism continues to expand.
Frankly, I'm getting tired of eating popcorn.
Damn... getting dissed by Kristol... must really suck to be GB...
Hey, Glenn... how's the bottom of the barrel looking?
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"Caliphate"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
In modern parlance, a "caliph" is akin to the Pope, and "caliphate", the dominion where he resides... like Vatican City.
Not sure what Beck and the Foxes think it means.
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they don't either and for sure, their viewers don't.
Technically Caliphates tend to be Sunni, who also tend to be our allies.
But since the word means successors or substitute for the founder.
And even with them caliphs come in and out of style.
The Shia (like Iran) are more likely led by ayatollahs, and their split with the Sunnis in the 7th century ce was over whether the caliph should be of their founder's genetic decent, or like the Sunnis a wise man vote on by the community.
The third biggest option is Ibadi Kharijites who believe the wisest among them should be caliph regardless of succession, but they are a small group.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0gLBqRIG0
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Well, we're meeting at the courthouse
At 8 o'clock tonight
You just go through the door and take the first turn to the right.
Be careful when you get there
We'd hate to be bereft.
BUT WE'RE TAKING DOWN THE NAMES OF EVERYBODY TURNING LEFT!
Fund and the rest of the so called moderates are wrong about Beck and the crazies. The lunatics now have control of the GOP.
I thought it was gold and guns...
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How fucking crazy do you have to be to have Bill Kristol call you crazy? Glenn Beck crazy i guess.
Always wrong Kristol:
"short-sightedness uncharacteristic of conservatives, of excuse-making for thuggery unworthy of the American conservative tradition. "
Wrong again, as usual. This is very characteristic of conservatives, just slightly exaggerated. Will Kristol ever get it right?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
something," but now that you point this out, yes, fish lips is wrong as usual.
I've never seen change without a fire
You mean like the War on Crime, the War on Drugs, the War on Sex, the War on Everything Else republicans Lost?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Wowsers, when you've lost Always Wrong Kristol you've really lost....IT.
Generally speaking I don't trust anyone making over 150K a year.
telling Glenn Beck to STFU? Will Kristol take away Beck's free speech rights? Potential RNC chairmen should be asked what they think of Glenn Beck. Interesting to watch the talking heads try to guage just how near to the edge of the Beck cliff they can walk without slipping in the gravel and plummeting into the abyss.
Progressive, irreversible and currently incurable. You should have seen Beck twenty years ago. And now... it's so sad. Won't you please help find a cure for Fox Personality Spongiform Encephalopathy
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How else could he have caught Mad Now disease?
Bet he'd look good in white with all those buckles and straps though...
The pat boone look?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Bill Kristol is always wrong, about everything. If he says Beck is marginalizing himself, it can only mean one thing: Beck is gaining mainstream support.
They keep Bugs under wraps in an undisclosed location up until show time for the protection of the public and the other FOX propagandists. After his show they re-jacket him and return him to his fortress of doom.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Kristol says: "But hysteria is not a sign of health. When Glenn Beck rants about the caliphate taking over the Middle East from Morocco to the Philippines, and lists (invents?) the connections between caliphate-promoters and the American left, he brings to mind no one so much as Robert Welch and the John Birch Society. He's marginalizing himself, just as his predecessors did back in the early 1960s."
1) Ronald Reagan was one of 4 people in Beverly Hills who were members of the JB Society: the others were John Wayne, Zazu Pitts, and Adolphe Menjou. No one who belonged to the group was supposed to be allowed to hold public office in California, but Reagan got a free pass on this from J. Edgar Hoover.
2) The Koch Brothers father was an original founder of the JB Society.
Oddly enough, all of this hysteria comes AFTER the fall of Joe McCarthy and the realization that his accusations of communist takeover were ridiculous.
It has an almost psychoanalytic feel to it: a hysteria that comes long after any sort of real trauma, and has nothing but a fantasmatic existence. The Koch brothers are nonetheless driven by it.
MyMy
The Koch-Bircher-Bagger-Nut-Sack republicans are a real handful. They are the 'Zombies' or 'Vampires' in every other TV show and movie these days - a menace to society.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I thought all the vampires were supposed to be cute now.
Personally, I think it looks more like they need a comb.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Not Zazu Pitts!
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Could you please not capitalize "theory"?
a few days ago and this cabbie gets in my face about Canadia and how it's run by socialist fascists and all, and he like "YO, tweakerbaby, yer cute - so like what's a hottie like you livin in the frozen north for?"
I mentioned medical care, good roads, a killer pension, ya know - things you find in a civilised society.
And a noticeably smaller percentage of violent dickheads and leering douchebag cab drivers.
He didn't like that. He said "Ya know, dem fuckin' Islamofascists are gonna take over the fuckin world - Glenn Beck said so! And you Canadian types are gonna let them all in."
I sort of choked, as vomit flooded up to the back of my throat.
"Yo, tweaky - you OK?"
"Yeah - I just threw up a little..."
"What - that the Moslem hordes are gonna take over?"
"No, that you actually believe the crap that spews from Glenn Beck's ass."
I arrived at my destination and got out. I didn't tip him. God, what an asshole.
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Quite right to call out Beck for being "fearful." Beck seems to be a man driven by cowardice more than any other characteristic.
A couple of years ago, Kristol seemed amused that the Weirdo Right was flying its freak flag, but now that offshoot of the Republicans looks to be taking over. All Republican politicians must now bow down to the Tea Party Totem or perish. It seems more than likely that a certifiable nut job is going to be the Repub 2012 nominee, probably someone even Kristol can't support.
You reap what you sow, Billy.
LIke Bill O'Reilly than Bill Kristol to me. I slogged through the entire video posted and never saw or heard mention of Kristol, only O'Reilly. Did I somehow miss the Kristol part or is the headline for some different video?
Yeah, I did the same thing...and finally looked at the post....and saw that Kristol's disapprobation was delivered in his column.
This wakjob is so wigged out, I'm surprised Mormons aren't asking that he stop mentioning his Mormon association.
Bill Kristol disputes Glenn Beck's notion that China, the Middle East, and Russia will soon be the three remaining ruling countries in the world. Wash your mouths out doubters! See? There is a diversity of opinion within the Republican party!
WK is nothing more than a RINO. Thats all he will ever be!!
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