Isakson should be mad at Republicans and not Obama
By John Amato Thursday Aug 13, 2009 11:00am
Johnny Isakson actually took into account the Terri Schiavo fiasco and wanted to put an end to most of it when he added his "living will" provision. He didn't realize that it would lead to the Palin's to cry Obama's got death panel's and the new health care bill will kill old people. Who's fault is that? he even responded to Ezra's intervieww by saying these people were acting like nuts over the issue. Well, President Obama talked about the nonsense at the NH town hall yesterday and Isakson probably felt like he had to save face with his teabagger pals and issued this statement.
“This is what happens when the President and members of Congress don’t read the bills. The White House and others are merely attempting to deflect attention from the intense negativity caused by their unpopular policies. I never consulted with the White House in this process and had no role whatsoever in the House Democrats’ bill. I categorically oppose the House bill and find it incredulous that the White House and others would use my amendment as a scapegoat for their misguided policies,” Isakson said. “My Senate amendment simply puts health care choices back in the hands of the individual and allows them to consider if they so choose a living will or durable power of attorney. The House provision is merely another ill-advised attempt at more government mandates, more government intrusion, and more government involvement in what should be an individual choice.”
Riiight. It's Obama's fault that the kooks got a hold of it and are lying about his amendment to turn old people off to any health care reforms. What a shock. it's too late for Isakson to blast the White House. he needs to go on TV and explain himself because the words that he wrote are being turned into a hot, heaping pile of dog poo.
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example of a man standing up against what he believes in. What courage!
Why doesn't he just take off his belt, slap himself a few times with it and then blame Obama for making him do it.
only it's called
"shooting himself in the foot"
Is his own enemy... One person made the statement that Obama and the democrats bring a knife to a gun fight...
No Obama and the democrats do not carry a knife and do not believe in fighting for way we want..
If you can not tell by now that this reform has turn into a Corporate health bill then show me where the part is for US>>
There is no since to go through what this bill gives to the Health Empire it Obama has even stated his give a ways...
He gave the Health Empire all their demands so they would let citizens with prior illness buy a policy..
Even the democrat senators have stated that there is no public option in it..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/13/inte...
After this reform (as the bailout and other give a ways to the Global Empires) is passed and you have to buy insurance from they regardless of how they screw you..
Obama and the democrats have made we sick enough to up-chuck with all their lies , deceit and BS they have and are feeding us..
Follow the money trail.....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
As his committee has taken center stage , Chairman Baucus (D-Mont.) a leading recipient of Senate campaign contributions from the hospitals, insurers and other medical interest groups hoping to shape the legislation to their advantage, of nearly $1.5 million in 2007 and 2008, when he began holding hearings and making preparations for this year's reform debate.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Do some research and you will find out this health reform is a bill now looks like a copy off the table of the Global health demand table..
how do the (r) make you feel in the reality of compromise?
don't know who to be mad at anymore.
that works quite well for me.
Why are we not picking candidates to run against the .. ... we have in office..
D... if I will support , give money to or vote for any one of the so called democrat that are passing republican policies for the corporate empire so they can receive the large donations and how knows what other benefits they receive..
This Change and Transparent government promised did not even get started much less off the ground..
I no longer believe a d... word that comes out of Obama , Emanuel , Pelosi , Reid , Baucus , Blue dogs , centrists mouth because there is no difference from one end of from the other..
i need to know who's going to get elected and at the same time not accept PAC/donations? the corporate world has made getting elected expensive for a reason. the real problem is too much money in washington. obama is trying "bipartsianship" but the country is too divided by design. the (r) are more concerned about their own identity than the country's well -being.
They're the Party of "No, Rush, I didn't mean what I said -- you're great! Really! I love you very, very much!"
One more nail in the coffin that contains the Republican Party. First Grassely and now this coward. Keep it up idiots. Now get over an apologize to Rush for not consulting him first.
More like they're sawing a hole in the bottom of a ship that we're all standing on. By the looks of the frothing know-nothings at these town halls, they're clearly prepared to take us with them...
Senator Mulkowski, it worked on the leadup to war in Iraq.
Welcome to the consequences of a populace that harbors occult ignorant superstitions.
This boys and girls is what it looks like when a rabid dog chases its own tail trying to bite it off. No, it isn't pretty.
you are a true POS.
what he said.
Rep. Weiner decided he wasn't going to allow cameras into his town hall forum...
No media whores for this event!!!:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/0...
Ha!! The right wingers are trying to spin this by saying he "banned all cameras".
Idiots.
And as to all the "Death Panels" hoo-ha, my sis is a nurse working in hospice in Portland. People would be shocked if they knew how many doctors have little understanding of what hospice does. Believe me, if a person is "terminally ill" they will have a far better "death experience" with hospice than by dying in an acute hospital situation. She has told me that many doctors refuse to order hospice care because they hate to "give up" on the patient.
There is nothing worse than knowing a patient has only a few months to live and not telling him/her the truth, thereby allowing them to "get their affairs in order", and say their goodbye's, I love you's and to offer their apologies etc. while they still can.
People need to understand...there is a good way to die and a bad way to die. And the only way to figure out which is which is with solid, truthful and sensitive educational services.
I have never heard anything but high praise for Hospice. I don't think they get the credit they deserve.
My husband knows if I stop talking for more than three weeks to pull the plug on me because if I'm not talking I'm not happy and have no quality of life. In that case I might as well be dead. Immediate cremation and no funeral. If things go any other way I will come back and haunt the hell out of anyone who messed up the plan.
My husband knows if I stop talking for more than three weeks to pull the plug on me
So should we be concerned if we don't see (hear?) you on this site for a couple of weeks???
Well in that case it could be that all I have to say would just get me deleted here by the site monitor. I might just be on a two week cussin' spree. The frustration I am feeling lately about this health reform bill might just send me over that edge.
Spot on, abby. Hospice was an immense help for our family (esp. my mom) when my dad was dying of cancer. They allowed him to die in the comfort of his home, rather than an impersonal hospital. They also were able to give my mom help with dad's care, as well as give her a respite from constant vigilance (i.e. going out to get her hair cut, doing some shopping, simply going for a long walk.)
I don't think many doctors understand the MANY ways hospice care helps the patient AND the entire family.
it's easy to understand why people are discouraged. trying to find the truth is a full-time job and people lying know that.
If you can't convince people with lies, confuse the hell out of them.
..baffle them with BS.
to be somebody one can talk to.
Isakson should be a famous name at this point! It's all his fault!
Isaksoooooon!
explain it all to your right wing nuts - please!
keeping a patient's organs functional when people no longer can live life is big business. there are people that know this has to become curtailed. because families/people don't prepare ahead of time they make emotional choices when the time comes. if in writing and/or discussed with family that change this issue big time. this type of "care" is bankrupting medicare.
I'm beginning to think the republican pols are just p*ssy whipped by Rush et al. They are running around scared to death they will say the wrong thing and get a spanking or something.
beating health care reform is crucial for the (r) to establish their new identity. i believe they know a majority of people will like having a "public option". the middleclass will comeback improved. this would strengthen the (D) party therefore further weaken the (r) party which is already at all time lows.
you never know. They are brainwashed. They may be operating at a juvenile level because they can't cope.
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Sorry to be off topic, but RIP Les Paul, the inventor of the electric guitar and if I'm not mistaken the first person to use multi-tracking recording techniques. (aka overdubbing) He was 94, and succumbed to pneumonia.
Reuters has more.
yep. Muti-track pioneer.
fuck me gently with a chainsaw... when did Palin become a Democrat?
she really is the gift that keeps on giving.
Palin stands by 'death panel' claim on health bill
Maroon.
needs to be played nonstop! Sorry, Isakson . . . you can lie all you wish, but your videotaped words will outlive you.
..because he said the Nuts were loose. Now, he turns it around on the Obama administration..WTF? We've said before, we'll say it again: Republicanism is a mental illness!
How are they using your amendment as a scapegoat sir?
Please explain that. Clearly what the amendment does is remove a modicum of the pain from dealing with "end of life" issues by providing compensation to the Doctor and its voluntary.
Why are you letting the wing-nuts hijack your amendment?
Why don't you just QUIT! QUITTING-one Republican's method of dealing with issues!
Obama actually went to bat for Isakson and Isakson showed his gratitude by hitting the President over the head with the bat.
A steaming pile of rotten road apples. That is what these politicians are trying to feed us
And it appears that some people are eager to chow down.
http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourhealth/policy/ar...
Is there mandatory end-of-life counseling for all seniors? Why?
No. This is another myth that reform opponents are using to scare people. What the bill does is let physicians get paid by Medicare for counseling people about things like advance directives, living wills, durable powers of attorney, hospice care and other steps people can take to make sure their wishes about how they want to be cared for at the end of life are known and followed. It’s entirely up to the doctor and patient whether this counseling takes place, and completely up to patients whether they take steps based on the counseling to put their end-of-life wishes into legal documents. Facing a terminal disease or debilitating accident, some people want every possible life-saving measure in the hopes that treatment will give them more time with their families. Others will decide that additional treatment is not what they want and decline extraordinary measures. Either way, it should be their choice; all this does is help them make informed decisions about these issues with their doctor.
..Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin refused to retreat Thursday from her argument that a proposed health care overhaul would create "death panels," even though a provision of the bill she cites merely authorizes government reimbursements to doctors for voluntary end-of-life consultations.
OK, now she has to put up or shut up! Show me death panels! Show me the verbage that describes death panels! Put it in Power Point, make it a slide show, get on Katie Couric's show one more time and PROVE WHAT YOUR SAYING IS TRUE! Have your HS diploma handy! I'm from Missouri dammit (not really) so SHOW ME! Show the whole country just how f-ing stupid you are touting death panels that don't and will never exist! First, do you have anything to do with all those people dying up there cause they couldn't get the care they signed up for? Is that the death panel you're talking about? teh stupid!
Isakson, Palin, Beck, et.al. = teh stupid and teh stupid because they think we're stupid, sheeple. Listen, all you obstructionist GOOPERS, I..AM..NOT..A..SHEEPLE..OR..AN..IDIOT, but I do have questions about you! One day, we will evolve beyond all this BS. I have some hope (thank you C&L and all the Posters).
Isakson should have quit while he was ahead. Now he's got himself all wrapped up in the turmoil. I guess keeping his mouth shut was not an option.
"Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality for those who seek to change a world which yields most painfully to change."
Robert F. Kennedy, 1966 speech
Rarely have truer words been spoken.
No surprise, Palin is just as big a hypocrite as her buddies Gingrich and Grassley:
" However, on April 16th 2008, then Gov. Sarah Palin endorsed some of the same end of life counseling she now decries as a form of euthanasia. In a proclamation announcing “Healthcare Decisions Day,” Palin urged public facilities to provide better information about advance directives, and made it clear that it is critical for seniors to be informed of such options: "
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/13/palin-dea...
Republicans are mentally ill the same way that a very cunning serial killer is. Republicans are cunning authoritarians, masters of slime. They care about nothing but their own quest for power.
My biggest disappointment will be if the Dem caucuses don't realize that anything that can be seen as
a Republican "success" as a result of the vile lies and tactics of frightening old people will just motivate them to sink even lower next time.
If Democrats let their own divisions prevent them from passing a good (if not "ideal") Bill, thus giving aid and comfort to the Party of Slime, then Lord help them, because I might not.
Is the Government Going to Euthanize your Grandmother? An Interview With Sen. Johnny Isakson.
Ezra: How did this become a question of euthanasia?
Isakson: I have no idea. I understand -- and you have to check this out -- I just had a phone call where someone said Sarah Palin's web site had talked about the House bill having death panels on it where people would be euthanized. How someone could take an end of life directive or a living will as that is nuts. You're putting the authority in the individual rather than the government. I don't know how that got so mixed up.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2...
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How does a public figure get away with this?
Unfortunately, for many patients and their families, the decisions about how to approach medical treatment at the end of life are not discussed until they are confronted by the immediate need to make them. The discussions that should take place about such choices do not often occur early–when they are most helpful–but rather play out in the exam rooms and hospital hallways as a loved-one struggles nearby.
The information gap between physicians and patients complicates the decision-making process, and doctors themselves are not-well compensated for taking the time to sit with patients and discuss options and approaches to treatments. In fact, for a doctor to spend an hour or two with a newly-diagnosed terminally ill patient–an amount of time Dr. Martensen deems beneficial and even necessary to cover everything–a doctor in New York, for example, is reimbursed only $18 by Medicare. On the other hand, a doctor who speaks with a patient for 15 minutes, runs a battery of tests and perhaps performs a procedure is compensated handsomely for his or her time.
This obviously does not create an atmosphere of partnership between patients and physicians, nor does it foster an environment where information can be exchanged between doctor and patient, and vice-versa. All too often, in fact, it leads to uninformed patients and the American status-quo during end-of-life treatment.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?...
What we need is a new generation who are outraged by:
Hate, racism and gender inequality.
A generation who will not tolerate:
Hooliganism, disruptive jerks, faux patriots, elimination thinking.
Our generation is sorely lacking a few of those basics.
He's mad at Obama because his overlord Limbaugh told him to.
ditto head = pendejo
Don't forget the state of Texas (republican governor) deliberately killing baby Sun Hudson and senior citizens who are ill under the Advance Directives Act of 1999 approved by Bush.
has to get over his fantasy of bipartisanship. He has to stop singing Kumbaya, because his is the only voice in the chorus.
He should never, ever compliment a Republican. Not ever. Democrats should be careful never to allow themselves to utter, "...and we agree on that point..." even if they do, because it will be used as a weapon of betrayal and humiliation.
Isakson, et al., will continue to take their marching orders from the fascist right wing and work to derail what's left of America for their corporate overlords no matter what the issue.
"An amendment by Republican Senator Isakson has been used to argue there are provisions in the bill allowing government bureaucrats to decide if seniors and other ill people get medical care. Some call it the Death Panel.
If there is a provision like this in any health care reform bill that creates a death panel I will veto the bill. It is that simple. End of discussion."
Fantasy President Obama
Talks about saving a "Gazillion" dollars through end of life planning. I would have thought that any one reading that would have jumped on him for that. But, I guess it's okay if you are a Republican.
http://isakson.senate.gov/floor/2008/042408he...
Isakson said:
"I will talk about what we need to do in terms of Medicare eligibility. When somebody signs up for Medicare when they are 65 years old--you are supposed to go in 90 days before your 65th birthday; I am getting close, so I am looking at these things--I think you ought to be required to execute a durable power of attorney when you become eligible. Eighty percent of the cost of health care to me, to you, and to anybody else happens in the last 60 days of life. More often than not, people are not in a condition to make a decision for themselves."
"Because of laws, and because we are a compassionate nation, the physician will keep you alive as long as he can. If you had a chance, you might rather say if I am being hydrated and given nutrition but will never become conscious again, I give the doctors the authority to make the appropriate medical decision. The money that would save is in the 'gazillions' of dollars--if there is such a number. It would help us to manage that cost."
A lot of you have a love-hate relationship with this guy. I think he's a bit of a jerk and a useful tool for one group or the other.
Here he is showing his worst tendencies. This was early on in the 'death counselling' melt-down, before Sarah Palin chimed in. He had a great opportunity to tell the truth, but he pushed the GOP points. His outrage was kind of strange, and was quite helpful to the Republicans. He didn't listen to his knowledgeable guest (no news there), and the debate only got worse.
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/w...
...for every well-meaning, Jefferson Smith-type that goes to Washington thinking that he could 'do the right thing' (and I don't mean the political spectrum), be a true statesman, cooperate with Democrats and do good for the people. Only in his case, and early on as a Congressman, he realized as did Navin Johnson in The Jerk that 'it's a profit deal', and statesmanship goes out the 'effin' window.
Johnny sold his soul - and at one time it was a pretty valuable one - for the money and power. Every now and then he'll 'lapse into his native tongue' and the truth will come out, but all 'they' have to do is to tug on the string they have around his balls to remind him that money and power is a fleeting thing 'if you don't toe the damn line, peckerwood!'. So he crawfishes around and before you know it, he meets himself coming the other way.
It's a shame really because once upon a time Johnny Isakson was as fine a man as I knew, and the only Republican I've voted for over the last 45 years. Guess that'll remain a record for the rest of my life.
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