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The health-care debate is heating up and a lot of unscrupulous tactics are being revealed. I'm sure you're read about this, but if not I want to highlight one of the many loopholes the health-care insurance industry is counting on with the help of their bought-off friends to destroy the "public option" for health care.

It's called The Trigger."

In every major legislative battle, there are a few critical moments that decide the fate of that legislation. In health care reform, we have already seen two: the first when President Obama insisted that we do health care reform this year; the second when Senate Democrats had the guts to ignore Republican hysterics and decided they would move health care in a way that required a simple majority instead of 60 votes. The third big moment is upon us, and the fate of whether we can get real reform of the health care system accomplished will likely be decided over the next few days. The moment I am talking about is the debate of the so-called trigger mechanism for having a public option in health care insurance.

The insurance lobby has had multiple tactics for stopping the public option idea, which they despise because they know if regular folks have choice to go to a public option, insurance companies won't have the same ability to treat their customers like garbage when they get sick. The first tactic was just to try to kill the public option outright, and the good news is that they appear to have failed at that. This so-called trigger proposal is the second tactic: the idea is to write a "trigger" that will allow for a public option only under certain conditions, but write the legislation so that those conditions would never get met in the real world. It's a classic DC tactic, right up there with calling for a commission to study something. Olympia Snowe is carrying the insurance industry water on their trigger proposal, proposing triggers that would only get tripped in some fairyland none of us have ever visited.

The great thing for the insurance companies in a tactic like this is that it gives "centrist" Senators (centrist in Washington, DC usually means those who have taken massive amounts of campaign contributions from the affected industry) an excuse to help the insurance industry while looking like they are open to the public option that their constituents have been demanding...read on

They will do anything to undermine our chances to fix health care in America. One of the worst is Ben Nelson, but the pressure from the netroots has caused him to say he won't filibuster the "public option."

Senator Ben Nelson, one of the key figures in the health care reform fight, has told a local official in his state that he could support cloture on a public plan for insurance coverage even if he opposed the bill itself.

The Nebraska Democrat, who has skeptically approached the idea of a government or publicly-run insurance program, additionally told state Democrats not to assume that he will oppose such a proposal in a final reform package.

"He's not against anything right now," said Bud Pettigrew, the chair of county chairs for the Nebraska Democratic Party, who fielded a phone call from Nelson on Monday. "But he does want to read the plans that come out first and then make a judgment." "He is open to some type of government plan but he wants to see the details first," Pettigrew added. "He wishes the liberals would give him a chance."

Ben Nelson needs to do the right thing and then we'll give him a chance. When has he ever stood with us?

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Liberal AND Proud's picture

OK...it's HAMMER TIME!


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

ricky's picture

in bags, sacks, or boxes?


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Abbybwood's picture

We need to get all the hammers and nails we can so we can put the FINAL NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF FOR-PROFIT "HEALTH" (Ha!) INSURANCE CORPORATIONS!!!!


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

cund_gulag's picture

When he's got a gun to our temple, rifling through our pockets for cash, while keeping his spare hand ready for donations from lobbyist's.

Myra Flection's picture

we're all ALREADY paying for everyone who doesn't have health care.
Every day there are at least 2-3 gunshot wound victims lying in the ICU here in the big city hospital I work in. (Gun reform anyone ?)
That's at a cost of thousands of dollars a day. Since they've been cutting Medicare every year and since states are slashing funds for the uninsured that's thousands of dollars a day that's getting passed on to....guess who ? YOU AND ME ! Don't believe the "you wont have a choice hype." You already don't have a choice.

boocilla69's picture

I also work in a large hospital, the biggest in my state.
I work in an ICU and we regularly treat people, because we should and
because we are required to, that have no insurance coverage.
Why, just the other day, I took care of a patient that used to work at the very same hospital I work. He worked there for 10 years and got laid off a few months ago. Needless to say, he couldn't afford the outrageous COBRA payments and didn't have coverage. His economic situation made him depressed which created this downward spiral of depression/alcohol consumption/depression. Anyone that thinks that we don't already pay for those people that don't have coverage is a moron. It's time to provide a safety net for those who do not have coverage and I will generously give to the opponents of any hypocritical fuck who opposes it.

cund_gulag's picture

Am I saying that Nelson has 3 hands?
Yeah, I guess I am, when he needs them.

ricky's picture

and remind us of better days. Bullets and Buttermilk for everyone.

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/pet/trigger.html


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

destardi's picture

Something needs to be done about Healthcare. Even big business knows this. So where are the republicans' ideas for it? Only criticizing Dems?

Second, I hate it when people refuse to look at the environment the Clintons were in, in 1993 and tried to take on the whole behemoth of healthcare + entrenched political interests. That was P.R.O.G.R.E.S.S.I.V.E at its best. The media sure has twisted the world when even fellow 'liberals' dis Hillary for TRYING. That was COURAGEOUS.

Second, can someone tell me how obama can measure "jobs saved"?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1244515927623...

I am not a troll. I am a disillusioned ex-Dem who now puts aside political party blinders for the unvarnished truth. And yes, it is liberating.

Stellar's picture
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It's time the healthcare industry stop getting a free lunch from the government at the expense of taxpayers. Why am I not surprised by all this? We can't trust the insurers and we certainly can't trust their lobbyists.

http://blackpoliticalthought.blogspot.com

savannah43's picture

!

Karyn's picture

It's way past time for Congress to lose OUR health-care package that WE pay for them. Would be interesting to see just how quickly they would push through FAIR legislation for health-care for EVERYONE then....

but we all know santa claus and the tooth fairy aren't for real....

boocilla69's picture

that the next Congressional asshole that stands up and says something about people being more responsible for their own health care be stripped of his/her government provided health coverage. They can have it reinstated if they make a monthly payment of the real market value of that coverage. Otherwise, they really need to STFU!!!

I could not agree more. The gov. health care they get should be brought up everytime there is a debate about this.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Abbybwood's picture

!!!!


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

ricky's picture

when the fat guys bring gifts through the front door and you can put everyone else's quarters under your pillow by a majority vote?


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

That Mick Piobr's picture

Specifically people named Ben Nelson.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ricky's picture

that there is a reason why the Roy Rogers Museum deserves to be in Branson, Mo.

Compared to the likes of, say, Wayne Newton, Roy could really sing.

Also, I never realized Don't Fence Me In is a Cole Porter song.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

boocilla69's picture

I don't think Cole was talking about being a cowboy, probably a metaphor for his lifestyle.

ricky's picture

for his lifestyle. It was written for a cowboy musical film.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

Paul's picture

to write a personal email to each of your representatives in the Senate and the house and let them know that if they do anything at all to obstruct a genuine public option that they will be losing your vote in the next election. I wrote mine and reminded them that although the lobbyists have the money, they do not vote. I reminded them that they were elected to serve the people, not opportunistically sell them down the river. Our representatives need to be flooded with calls and emails.

Funny, the most thoughtful response I got back was from my Congressional rep, who is a Republican. He seemed mostly in agreement with me, but I think it was because in my letter to him, I built a case about how wasteful and fiscally irresponsible the corporate welfare program would be. I was not expecting a positive response form him.

Unless many of our representative's' feet are held to the fire, they're going to go with the line-their-own-pockets option.

ricky's picture

The young man or woman who wrote that thoughtful e-mail for your Congressman will probably be making double what he or she is today in just a few years working for the insurance lobby.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

Paul's picture

You're probably right. I was just shocked that I didn't get the usual letter, full of mealy mouthed excuses for prostituting the office and being politely told to go screw myself, as happened everytime I got a response from this guy's GOPer predecessor. This is this guy's first term, so it may just be that he and his staff haven't learned that trick yet.

liberalNmoderation's picture

What must we do to get the will of the people carried out?
March on DC?

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Yes..yes...yes...yes...yes...yes

Every unemployed and uninsured person in the United States should be camped out around the reflecting pool


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

ricky's picture

or will an OR do?

It is hot. Can you swim in the reflecting pool or merely reflect?


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

We need to fight fire with fire!

We need to become citizen lobbyists and ORGANIZE, ORGANIZE, ORGANIZE!!

What needs to happen is a national campaign to hold major public meetings in every Congressional District of the country. Then about seven individuals need to be chosen/volunteer to get all dressed up like lobbyists and make an appointment to go to their Congressperson's office, preferably all on the same day. The local newspaper editors need to be sent press releases so the visits become photo ops and front page news stories.

It would probably be smart to give a DVD of "Sicko" to each representative and to make the national message short, sweet and to the point: The American people do not WANT a national health care system. We NEED it!!! Healthcare is a human "need" not a want, like a new 46" Bravia HD TV. There is no room for "profits" any longer within the United States corporately controlled "healthcare" system.

We must all support Conyers H.R. 676!!! We must fight for what we NEED! We must DEMAND the same health care coverage all the Congress gets!!! that we pay for!

Accidents, heart attacks, cancer, infections etc. don't care if there's a recession or not. They happen to ALL Americans. People should not have to risk losing their homes because they or their children have one tonsillectomy with complications (cha-ching), or need major surgery and are on the brink of foreclosure.

The current system is worse than simply "broken". These corporations are not interested in seeing the American people receive healthcare. They are interested in saying, "NO!" in order to raise their profit margins! The current maize of corporate insurance systems needs to be (borrowing from JFK's quote about the C.I.A.), "Torn into a thousand pieces and scattered to the wind!"


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

We need to fight fire with fire!

We need to become citizen lobbyists and ORGANIZE, ORGANIZE, ORGANIZE!!

What needs to happen is a national campaign to hold major public meetings in every Congressional District of the country. Then about seven individuals need to be chosen/volunteer to get all dressed up like lobbyists and make an appointment to go to their Congressperson's office, preferably all on the same day. The local newspaper editors need to be sent press releases so the visits become photo ops and front page news stories.

It would probably be smart to give a DVD of "Sicko" to each representative and to make the national message short, sweet and to the point: The American people do not WANT a national health care system. We NEED it!!! Healthcare is a human "need" not a want, like a new 46" Bravia HD TV. There is no room for "profits" any longer within the United States corporately controlled "healthcare" system.

We must all support Conyers H.R. 676!!! We must fight for what we NEED! We must DEMAND the same health care coverage all the Congress gets!!! that we pay for!

Accidents, heart attacks, cancer, infections etc. don't care if there's a recession or not. They happen to ALL Americans. People should not have to risk losing their homes because they or their children have one tonsillectomy with complications (cha-ching), or need major surgery and are on the brink of foreclosure.

The current system is worse than simply "broken". These corporations are not interested in seeing the American people receive healthcare. They are interested in saying, "NO!" in order to raise their profit margins! The current maize of corporate insurance systems needs to be (borrowing from JFK's quote about the C.I.A.), "Torn into a thousand pieces and scattered to the wind!"


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

kevsters's picture

Watch Uber-Christian, Pat Robertson slip and say that private insurance plans could not compete with a public health care system. I don't even think he realized what he said.

http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=1666

AngryGus's picture

and the trigger needs to be pulled on those that decicided to take singlepayer off the table!


Cue the Kabuki....

fightforreformnow's picture

Does anyone know of any organization putting together public demonstrations for a single payer system? I want to get out in the streets and make some noise!!! I am madder then hell and I am not going ot take it anymore!!! Who is with me? I live near LA, but I am willing to get on a plane and go to DC to let these knuckle heads hear my shouting!

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