Rush Limbaugh blames Newt Gingrich for Hoffman's loss in NY-23
By John Amato Thursday Nov 05, 2009 8:00amNewt was the darling of the right just a few moments ago, it seemed, but now he's in a battle with the lunatic fringe of his own party.
Rush Limbaugh zeroed in on Newtie today and took out his rage against Gingrich and the "party bosses" because he supported a moderate conservative over the Palin-Beck-Limbaugh teabagger nominee named Doug Hoffman and Hoffman lost. Sarah Palin has as much egg on her face as the rest of them do. When a district like NY-23 comes up for election, a Republican always wins. Their purity test helped lose them a guaranteed seat. Pretty awesome.
LIMBAUGH: Here is -- these are my thoughts on New York-23. In the first place, I'll have to double check this, but I'm reasonably sure that this was the highest percentage of the vote ever won on the Conservative Party line by a House or Senate candidate. I think Hoffman had a higher percentage of the vote than even James Buckley, who won his U.S. Senate race on the -- against or against this Gooddell guy, Charles Gooddell, in the '70s. So, that's one thing.
But, the right message; we cannot forget how this whole thing happened in the first place. There was not a primary. The right message here would indict the way party bosses, Republican Party bosses and these big thinkers like Newt screwed the whole thing up from the get go.
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Woot. Republican in-fighting! Where's the popcorn.
Darth Vader vs. Emperor Palpatine! I'm lovin' it!
Dunnit give ya that warm, squishy feelin inside?
I'm straight.
+1
Big thinkers need not apply.
lol
Exactly! How telling is it that demonizing 'big thinkers' just rolls right off Rush's tongue?
for throwing her support behind the winner.
Back the bus back over the Salamander and hit him a couple more times while I grab a beer, OK rush?
subplot interlude in this story and is into the climactic story of
cannibal gratification.
Newt cannot be much more than lunch. He'll be hungry for Democratic flesh way before nightfall.
Keep picking those pure candidates!
I wonder why Rush doesn't get off his hemmeroids and run for office? He's pure, except for those hush-money divorces, drug busts and "vacations" to the Dominican Republic...Luckily Rush didn't reproduce, although I swear at one point he got so fat I thought he was gonna split in two like an amoeba.
Jabba the Rush!
he might have to back up some of his BS, and of course he couldn't. It's safer for him to take potshots from the one-way safety of his radio show.
Not only does Rush not want to take the pay cut to run for office, but that would probably be the most embarassing campaign ever, what with all of Rush's skeletons-in-the-closet.
The big problem for guys like Rush is financial disclosure requirements. There's no way in the world he'd ever release the details of his financial portfolio.
of his sexual(? ugh!) portfolio.
I would call the thinking of Rush and the teabaggers "simple." They thought they had a sure thing in NY-23 because no Dem was elected for that seat in 137 years. That fact just had to mean that their simple minded philosophy would prevail. Rush doesn't get the fact that his blather and bull shit is just laughable to people who think. Welcome to reality you fat lying bastard. Admit you were wrong.
Does Republican infighting make you uncomfortable Dennis? Face it, Palin, Rush, Glenn et al really screwed the pooch on this one and now look like idiots. And yeah, I'm feeling really smug right now.
huh?
"not a lot of downside for Republicans"
except they lost a GOP seat they have had since the 19th century, and one of the few house congressional seats they have in the entire new england area.
also, this situation is wholly different from the lamont/lieberman race. no primary, outside influence versus voter choice, etc.
What election in Virginia did you watch? The Democrat campaigned -away- from Obama. Said he would opt out of health care reform and opposed cap and trade. Democratic turnout collapsed as a result of there being nothing to get excited about. Young voters stayed away and a lot of pissed off angry old white folks (men mostly) rocked the voting booth. No news here. The Virgina race was the perfect example of the late Tip O'Neil's truism, "all politics is local". Those are the facts from the exit polls. Not Fox Noise "truthyness"
had to move sharply to the middle to be in the running.
[Deleted. dennis, the topic of this thread is "Rush Limbaugh blames Newt Gingrich for Hoffman's loss in NY-23," which you derailed with what appears to be your first post regarding Ned Lamont. I'm done trying to get through to you. You are finished-Sitemonitor]
If by "valuable insight" you mean the subtle knowledge gained by shooting one's foot off, I would agree with you. Other than that, I don't see many take-away lessons for the GOP on this.
Blue Lensman.
I'd expect you to only see the handicapping done on the liberal blogs and anything that in disagreement with that would be dismissed by you.
In other news, water is wet and ice is cold.
Share one of these profound insights and open my eyes. Unless, of course, you're just trying to put your own spin on the situation and there is no "there" there.
You guys are talking about NY-23 instead of what happened in NJ and VA and what those implications are.[That's because that is the topic of the thread. That John Amato wrote. It's his blog-Sitemonitor]
There's no reflection going on, no soul-searching, no 'WTF just happened, we thought Republicans were dead', no 'how did we lose that badly in VA?'.
Just honestly, some kind of weird crowing about a seat that is up for reelection next year and the candidate was disliked by the liberal establishment to begin with.
The same 'nothing to see here, move along' that the Republicans did in 2005 when Paul Hackett nearly won in Ohio in a conservative district and NJ and VA went to Democrats. So maybe it's back to business as usual for Democrats and liberals and the nutroots....blame Bush, bash Sarah Palin-Rush Limbaugh-Sean Hannity-Fox News, and give daily updates on Glenn Beck. All of which are good things for Republicans, because it only sends more independents their way.
So the chatter here on C&L that you find so objectionable is actually a valuable lesson that the GOP will learn from to win future elections?
Seems like a bit of a stretch. Got any others?
Go back to the Fox blogs. If what we do here is so good for the GOP, why are you trying to make us ashamed of doing it?
In NJ the candidate with the less known criminal corruption background won.
In VA the candidate who ran to the middle won. While the candidate that ran to the right lost.
And yeah like exposing the nuts in the Republic Party ranks really sends independents to them. That's the most laughable of all the laughable things you're saying. I guess that explains the Republic Party's growing support as evidenced by the polls huh? What's it at now? 20% identifying themselves as Republic?
and guess which way they usually break? Add in the trend of the independents since last summer and it should make you pause for reflection.
... and not just in NY-23. In VA and NJ the winning candidates ran to the middle and treated the Palin/FOX/teabagger crowd like lepers. In CA a Blue Dog was replaced by a Progressive.
Oh, and in NY-23, a district which had not elected a Democrat since the Civl War, voters said no way to the Conservative candidate and went blue.
Conservatism, aside from it's corporate financiers and media megaphone, is being been pushed back to the realms of Deliverance.
Ba-bye.
Opinion polls show the American party largely supports most "liberal" agenda points
Until the word liberal is introduced to the question.
They think America just always had M-F 9-5 jobs with weekends off, paid vacations, health care insurance (as worthless as it is now), workplace safety standards, any processes for filing grievances at work, and Christmas day with pay.
I cue up Deliverance, and you've got no link?
Since this is conservative Brother v. Brother, you must mean this Deliverance:
http://www.nofussfabulous.com/wp-content/uplo...
what insights? like fearing palin's political touch-of-death?
stop and try to remember what effect John Edwards was having on the political landscape one year after losing in 2004.
Laugh at her, but she's not dead.
and i don't think she is dead, just whatever she touches dies.
the Undead?
..just like everything else she does.
Ha ha ha- gun toting Alaskan dim wit- is taking over the world !
..every republican't elected to office yesterday will benefit from the Democratic House and Senate and President in DC through stimulus money, health care reform, extension of unemployment benefits and hopefully more jobs in the near future. AND..they will take all the credit when time comes to hand out props.
Other than that, why would anyone, anywhere, vote "republican't" when thirty of the filthy animals in the Senate voted against the Franken Amendment.
any post here I reply to someone who is off-topic here will result in my post getting deleted.
But briefly, the Franken Amendment, as long as the DOD is opposed and Daniel Inouye is the one faced with the politically unpleasant task of stripping the language, that one is not going to be a winner for you guys. Sorry. Shitty bill. Good intentions, but shitty bill.
when you are off thread.
There isn't a lot of downside for Republicans. There is for bugfuck insane wingnut tea partiers, though.
Hopefully if enough of the crazy is rejected by voters the Republican party will go back to normal conservative policies instead of the insanity they've been lurching toward for the past few decades.
they've got so much invested in the insanity up to now, it'd be a shame and a crime to throw it all away.
In other words, they want the deck chairs on the Titanic to stay right where they are.
I imagine they'll both save us just like Bush saved the Democratic party. They're doing an exemplary job of it so far this year.
don't you ever get dizzy from all the spinning you do?
Or is this all part of your exercise program - this and jumping to conclusions and making astonishing leaps of rationalization?
Physically, you should be in fine form from the workouts you engage in - which is a good thing, cause mentally, you need a special olympics to compete.
republican brand champagne:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYG9Bpnjuv0&fe...
is the caviar for that kind of champagne.
If it had been Tommy Roe v. Wade I would have been with Hanging Henry.
worked out the perfect strategy for losing an election didn't they? Now if they can scale this idea up for 2010 and maybe even 2012 they can turn a minor setback into complete oblivion. I wish them as much "healthy exercise" as Dr. Rush feels is needed.
to post this?
LOL . .
Teabaggers are the party for little thinkers.
he will never take responsibility for his actions. Ever. Rank and file GOP thugs should know this better than anyone. After all, they count on him to carry their water daily.
But now, the fight is internal and Rush being Rush is all in for the B.S. crazy of Bachman - Palin - Beck and so its under the bus for Newt and Steele.
Rush IS the defacto leader of the Christian GOP thugs and they will no doubt "turn it up to 11" rather than allow "un-pure" GOP thugs to hold office. I suspect they will out Lindsey Graham next in their full-on efforts to purge the party. Unless he caves and becomes as B.S. crazy as they are.
And while this appears to be a gift to Democrats today, history proves there is no "free lunch" that the Democrats can't screw up.
Question: One - What happens to the country if they do and the GOP thugs find themselves back in power? - it only takes one
and Two: How can the remaining "moderates" in the GOP stay in good conscience when the new uber-hateful, shameless hypocritical B.S. crazies from their own party want them and their ideas gone?
American politics. Never dull.
Does he really think hoffman would have won a primary?
Primaries showcase candidates. Candidates have to debate each other.
Hoffman refused to debate both candidates just last week. They
can't, like sarah palin, make Face Book pronouncements and refuse to answer or submit to questions,and get elected.
He wanted the questions in advance and refused to debate even though he was right here in Plattsburgh.
De De was a seasoned elected and electable candidate. They threw her away because of 2 issues THEY did not like. If they had checked her voting record she is more conservative then liberal.
But, stupid is as stupid does.
The beauty of all of this is, the conservatives are too arrogant and stupid to learn from this experience and will continue to spin the truth and make the same mistakes over and over again.
Conservatism, the gift to Democrats.
He's a joke.
Weren't the questions to be asked of him in the newspaper the morning of the day he spoke? Dick Armey had to save him as he was so ignorant about the local issues, among other things. Armey belittled the local issues, and expected his ideology to be the only thing considered by the voters. They were, wrong, wrong, wrong. Do not ever try to tell NY'ers what to think or do.
What a shame. Gingrich and the rest of the GOP has been benefitting and using the angry man propoganda spewed by Tubby and the rest of them for years.
Now it's turned on them and they can't control it. Calling Dr. Frankenstein.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWsBm_fqg6Y
Rush says this about the New Jersey race:
"In New Jersey, they had a primary. There was a guy that was more conservative than Christie, Steve Lonegan. They had a primary and Christie won the primary and the party got behind the winner."
so, in rush's oxy-depleted brain, "party bosses" are those from upsate NY that chose and supported the GOP candidate. but, the out-of-state entertainers (beck, rush) and failed ex-politicians (armey, palin) were working on behalf of the people of NY23? uh huh. sure.
this was all about the kookie right, represented by beck-palin-rush, trying to move the party to a place where large swaths of the party prefer it not go. such as people in upstate NY. good job.
How exactly did Hoffman and the Teabaggers "pressure" whatshername, the GOP moderate, into dropping out? Was it just a situation where she was afraid if she stayed in the race, she and the Democrat would split the sane people's vote and Hoffman would win?
Right, she wanted her district to be represented by a sane person. She's welcome to come to the big blue tent!
or lack thereof. Funding dried up when the lunatic fringe was diverted by Palin, et al.
Yo, Rush, get that thing out of your ear. You're receiving the wrong messages.
How do you know that's not how sarah gets her eggs fertilized?
She reminds me of some kind of aquatic invertebrate creature.
Sarah reproducing. "Aliens" - the movie, not the illegals, comes to mind.
This is perfect. It's Karma. It's what the gop deserves. It's what they wanted: a drugged out, draft dodging, fat and balding, bed wetting and boy hopping leader, multiple divorcee and bankrupt. It's perfect! I can't stay in the republicant party because of it. But all those who are staying deserve this. Now, group them up in their demonic church, chain the door and light the fire. It's what Karma wants. It's perfect. It's deserving. It's what they give, and will give into. Lazy and dumb crybabies.
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It'll be interesting to see what Newt has to say in response to what Rush said.
I feel like I am using the names of cartoon characters, Newt and Rush.
Would you prefer they be anime?
This could be a fun event to watch.
I meant trying to say their names.
Can Gingrich be eaten with your fingers? Or should your fingers be eaten separately?
And does he taste like chicken?
as good as the original and the original, Freddy vs Jason, stank pretty badly anyway.
To be fair, Limbaugh said "party leaders LIKE Gingrich".
So he is actually blaming himself, a party leader.
And of course he specifically didn't mention the "party leader" who should take most of the blame, Sarah Palin.
As usual, Limbaugh's criticism of the Republican Party is always non-specific and excludes himself.
Exactly! What "screwed it up" was the teabag contingent throwing a monkey wrench into the works with their teabag candidate. DeeDee would have won the election easily without the nutters getting involved.
Since it appears Buckley easily won the majority vote.
Kind of hard to have a bigger percentage than 50% and still lose.
but the reason Hoffman lost was that HE IS AN IDIOT WHO DID NOT KNOW HIS ASS FROM A HOLE IN THE GROUND. He was a carpetbagger, looked like a deer caught in the headlights, couldn't form a coherent sentence, and had all the charisma of a doorknob. THAT'S why he lost. And Newt's a blowhard idiot, anyway. Hmmm.....come to think of it, that's a perfect description of Rush, as well.
George W. did almost get elected (twice)!
but only because Rove cheated.
he certainly wasn't counting on preperation or qualifications - he didn't have any - so he must have thought magic ballot boxes would save him like they did Bush.
... heeheehee....
Bottom line. Thanks to the teabagger wingnuts, the Democrats won a House seat they had no business winning. Epic Fail for Palin, Beck and the other right wing looney toons.
Also, you guys should've seen Morning Joe this morning. Mika was in conniptions over Pelosi not being down in the dumps over the governors' races and acknowledging that the Democrats won both House races this year. Pelosi was right. Her hand was strengthened. She has nothing to do with the governorships in VA and Jersey. For some reason, it seemed to be a big point of contention for good ol Joe and Mika.
..is because Health Insurance reform from the House will arrive on Saturday and if two republican't governors are stupid enough to deny or try to deny their constituents access to it, well..pshht roll downhill. Also, and I've said it before, all they reap is what the DC has sown!
Wasn't Wall Street interfering in the vaccine problem mentioned on that show this morning? I don't watch it, but I fell asleep with MSNBC on the TV last night, and I just caught some blather from Joe about vaccine and Wall Street investing in it, likely to raise the price. Did you hear this?
The problem was that Wall Street firms like Citibank had more access to the vaccines for employees than some public hospitals did. I didn't get the whole story about that.
Presidential candidates usually come from a pool of governors though, until 2008 when all the main candidates seemed to be from the Senate.
The closest thing we had to a governor I can recall was julie anna
who was a mayor..
believe that's about it for governors, but they were there!
I never really considered them to be viable candidates.
I always saw it as primarily between mcgramps, Edwards, Clinton and Obama.
Sigh.
Gee, and here I thought Newt Gingrich was a life-member of the Republican Party's lunatic fringe. They're cannibalizing their party right before our eyes.
ready indeed! :D
Outside of Maine, this is a classic case of voters voting their own interests.
If an incumbent is corrupt, throw him out
And if a candidate is too extreme, keep them out.
is trying to wreak havoc here in California by trying to trip up the moderate Republican candidate for Senate in 2010 that Lindsey Graham.
"Good" luck to those slimeballs, they're going to need it. I doubt anyone's going to vote against Barbara Boxer, especially if the extreme conservative candidate gets the nomination for the Rethugs.
What Do These Right-Wing Religious Wack-Jobs Have In Common? Rush Limbaugh shows up around → (2:05)
"We can take this country back. All we need is to nominate the right candidate. It's no more complicated than that."
--Rush Limbaugh
Alfred-Henri-Marie Cardinal Baudrillart (1859-1942),
Roman Catholic priest. Auxiliary Bishop of Paris, 1921-1942.
"Hitler's war is a noble undertaking in defense of European culture." (1941) :-/
Especially with:
http://www.markys.com/caviar/customer/image.p...
And who does Lard-Ass blame for his Limp Dick???
... and the Sheriff's Investigators in West Palm Beach, FL?
Newt was trying to persuade super-stupid Sean Hannity that his far-right litmus test was a recipe for loss of power:
Hannity "I have no litmus test (followed by something thoughtless)."
Newt: "All I'm saying is that in the entire Northeast, from New York thoughout New England, you now have 2 seats out of 49."
HAH ha ha. I hate Newt, but there are thinking righties, AND a great mass of righty idiots. They will never understand why they need to reach to the center, if you drew them a f_cking diagram.
Go ahead. Double down on shrieking stupidity GOP.
The Democrats still have trouble shooting these barrel-placed fish.
Sometimes I think Democrats v. Republicans reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRgnogD9ymg&fe...
It also reminds me of politics here in Canada too.
Put a big LOSER sign on his forehead.
He doesn’t take responsibility for his actions or words.
He tries to blame others.
He makes excuses for poor results.
He whines.. .
He is a victim.
He is an over paid moron.
And finally.......he’s a fool.
Newtie should just call "the drugster" and ask him why he and Palin ran such a dumbass as a candidate. Did you see Doug Hoffman on TV? I would not be surprised if that guy didn't know his own name.
They're either eating each other or throwing each other off the cliff. In both ways, it's entertaining :-)
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